
Why can't Obama treat political opponents with respect, like these fine men? (by Gerard Van der Leun)
Those sensitive, shrinking violets on the right took a day off from their racist dog whistles and comparing Barack Obama to murderous tyrants to whine about their hurt fee-fees.
The Very Courageous Paul Ryan mewled that Obama was “excessively partisan” and the non-partisan Wall Street Journal one-upped him, deeming the speech “blisteringly partisan.” The National Review’s Jim Geraghty was quite upset that Obama so “ferociously demonized” poor Ryan. Former Bush administration official Greg Mankiw also objected to Obama’s “demonizing the opposition.” And Charles Krauthammer gasped,
I rarely heard a speech by a president so shallow, so hyper-partisan and so intellectually dishonest, outside the last couple of weeks of a presidential election where you are allowed to call your opponent anything short of a traitor.
My goodness, pass the smelling salts.
But I don’t know why these gentlemen are so surprised. Obama’s been talking this way for years.
Take, for instance, the time he accused Republicans who opposed the stimulus of wanting the Great Recession to last longer,
Some say, well, maybe the recession should have been deeper.
Then there was the time he lashed out at certain Republicans for opposing the war in Afghanistan.
There’s a group in the opposition party who are willing to retreat before the mission is done. They’re willing to wave the white flag of surrender. And if they succeed, the United States will be worse off, and the world will be worse off.
And later, he even suggested Republicans were undermining the troops in his State of the Union address.
As our troops fight a ruthless enemy determined to destroy our way of life, they deserve to know that their elected leaders who voted to send them to war continue to stand behind them. Our troops deserve to know that this support will remain firm when the going gets tough.
Or what about the time he accused Republican critics of his intervention in Libya of being racists?
There’s a lot of people in the world who don’t believe that people whose skin color may not be the same as ours can be free and self-govern.
Well, the tiger’s not going to change his stripes. A bully’s a bully.
Conservatives will just have to hope that all this partisan incivility will hurt Obama in 2012.



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They’re such delicate little flowers, it almost seems unfair for Obama to play hardball with them like that, knowing they can’t possibly fight back.
Nothing says “intellectually dishonest” like Krauthammer.
WATB of the World Unite!
How about this site setting up a contest to “rename” the “GOP”?
Here’s another example of how delicate the Rs are
Link.
Don’t be silly. Murderous tyrants order their citizens executed without trial.
Oh, right…
Typical bullies…when they get their own crap thrown back at them..they fall apart. Boo f’ing Hoo…..and as for Barry being hyper-partisan…bwahahaha
Little chuckie krauthammer with a public forum is the real disgrace.
If Obama ups the pressure, great.
I expect him to start in on the apologies, though. Happy to be wrong, but…
So am I. I’m appalled at the way he’s beaten up poor defenseless Progressives.
When I hear the Preznint say, “Wall Street hates me and I welcome their hatred,” I’ll buy that whole “he’s a big meanie” meme. Until then, however…
Hey Wingnuts: Put a fucking sock in it, will you?
Arrogant prick.
I was shocked that somebody talked to Greg Mankiw. You know, somebody besides Greg Mankiw’s cat.
Absotively posilutely.
Why doesn’t the media call these people out and tell them to put their big boy pants on? How did they expect a proposal to cut taxes for the rich on the backs of the most vulnerable to be greeted? With praise and thanks? Oh yeah, they’re in bed with each other and won’t hear any criticism of their partners. Just like Mrs. Greenspan.
I’d go with heartless subhuman demon.
It’s one of the remaining diffs between Rs & Ds. As a gov, Cuomo (NY-DINO) is just as bad. He still speaks softly though, while the Rs fully display their meanness.
Wow, your device works on so many levels.
If Republicans were smart, meanwhile, they’d be taking Bob Krumm’s advice:
Instead of looking backward to question why we’re at war in Libya, Republicans should focus on winning by increasing the size of the military, portraying a positive message, supporting not just the troops, but also their mission, and showing the world a united homefront in the midst of war.
There’s precedent for this counterintuitive approach–1992. When Bushes win victories abroad, the focus returns quickly to their failures at home. And as far as many Democratic voters are concerned, there are domestic deficiencies aplenty in this Obama administration.
So, Republicans, stop running against the war. You serve only to unite an otherwise disenchanted Democratic base. If you take the war off the front page by winning it, Democrats will have to depend on their domestic record for victory. And, unfortunately, there’s little there to rally the base.
“The Democrat approach in Iraq comes down to this: The terrorists win and America loses.”
George W. Bush, 2006.
While right wingers like yourself who aren’t running for office clutched their pearls whenever anybody thought of criticizing the chimp and you call Obama a traitor at least once a month. Cry me a river Chuckie. Why anybody would listen to a whiny little pissant like you is beyond me. I thought Republicans valued courage and strength. Seems to me like they should all have just a bit more grit than that.
My husband said (G) roup (O)f (P)*ssies
Personally I find that offensive. My female parts are quite courageous and managed to bring forth our children.
I’d say group of pansies but why insult flowers.
How about Group Of Putzes?
Oh boy, more theater.
Obama SAYS no more tax cuts for the rich. Republicans CLAIM to be whining. Meanwhile, behind the cameras and out of reach of microphones they’re sharing a big laugh at all of us.
BT: Bet you right here, right now, Obama signs an extension of the Bush tax cuts past 2012. If I’m wrong, I stop posting here. If I’m right, you publicly proclaim (and I’ll take you as a man of your word to follow through) that you will NOT vote for Obama in 2012.
Deal?
How quickly they forgot about “critisizing the Commander in Chief during a time of war.” Didn’t we get about 7 years of that shit from these same WATB?
(I almost used that word in #22. Glad I deleted it. *g*)
Don’t think you’ll find many here willing to take the other side of the tax cuts for the rich bet.
Yep, we sure did. Not only that but that whole “politics stops at the shore” thing apparently only applies to Democrats.
WELL F*** THEM ALL !!! REPEATEDLY..
Hey, wingers! Suck on this…
You may not like Obama, but you do have to respect him.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!111!1!
Greed
Opulence
Privilege
It’s an oldie.
I’ll go you one further: I’ll bet Obama signs legislation for deeper tax cuts for the rich and calls it “victory”.
Winski pretty much covers it @27
Thank you Winski.
The GOP always says we are mean uncivil etc when they think we are doing something thats working. If it makes the GOP feel better I don’t think its working.
I did not hear end the wars to save money any talk of saving money is a joke until that happens.
I did not hear about Obama creating jobs or saving people’s homes.
So why should I listen?
It has gotten quite transparent over the past several years, hasn’t it?
Yes, but I also think I’ll find many here that would take the side that says Obama will indeed this time live up to his promise.
Actually, that’s not quite true. IMO most folks here realize it’s not just Obama, if it was things wouldn’t be nearly as bad.
Guess I should say yes, I agree with you, but yes, I also think there’s quite a few here that still believe the Democratic Party itself isn’t in on the whole con. Thus I’m saying the Democratic Senate will pass, and Obama will sign, an extension of the tax cuts.
And I’d bet there’s plenty of folks here that would argue that point. They’re the same ones that will vote a Democratic straight ticket next November. And if you believe the polls, they make up a MAJORITY of Democrats, thus likely a majority here as well (although I don’t know that, only guessing, possibly wrongly I know).
Yes. The Rs were always mean (one of the reasons why I always voted D), but not quite so obvious years ago.
Have you all seen Jesse Ventura’s ssssssssmokin letter to the Ruling Class?
So good to see it spelled out clearly…
http://weaintgottimetobleed.com/
Yeah, he did in December. The Estate Tax was cut deeper than anything during the Bush years.
Well, the frequent commenters, anyhow. Don’t know about the lurkers.
And of those who occasionally comment, we know who the bots are…
You know what would be cool? If that link worked.
Also if Jesse Ventura would STFU.
I notice the bots have been incredibly scarce lately. Guess it’s true; You just can’t defend the indefensible.
The WallStreet Journal a Rupert Murdoch paper is accusing Obama of demonizing a person pot calls kettle Black?
Lets play a game take everything any Ruppert Media has said about Obama and then change it to apply to Ruppert would the GOP like that?
Obama is not a citizen he was born in Africa so he can’t be President.
Rupert was born in Australia. Foreigners are not allowed to own a controlling interest in American news media because we fear they may influence the public in ways that hurt America. Rupert decided to get around this by becoming a citizen.
Rupert has certainly pushed hate and worked to divide America with lies thus proving the Founding Fathers knew what they were talking about.
Oh yeah, of the frequent commenters there’s no doubt. But doesn’t this site have several thousand registered??
Those of us that have read all the evidence and concluded that Obama AND the national Democrats are completely corrupted make up most of those that comment, but I’m not sure they make up most of all those registered here and members here.
But, again, only guessing, I have NO way of knowing. It just seems logical that if 70-80% of Democrats approve of Obama and most of those registered here are Democrats (or lean left), then most here would make up that 70-80%.
I was imagining a football dropped in the SFP 4 at Fukushima Dai-ichi. Left to soak for an hour or two.
easy panther
Roger.
It worked for me.
And Jesse Ventura is funny to me. Sometimes he says shit that makes me scratch my head and go WTF and then sometimes he says shit that makes me nod my head in agreement.
Funny dood.
I didn’t catch Obama’s speechifying yesterday. As other firepuppies have commented, I cannot stand to look at him or hear him. But, I read all about it.
Sounds like Obama 1.0, the candidate version. Is he running for sumptin’?
I’m not buy’n what he’s sell’n. As the fellow once said, ain’t that a kick in the head?
Either that, or Jane hasn’t been on TV for awhile.
Thanks for sharing that. I would have missed it. And 992 comments. Wow.
It used to be Obama would do the Republican’s dirty work and not fight back while they pissed on him.
After yesterday’s speech, I think from now on he’s going to fight back and not let them piss on him while he’s doing their dirty work.
Apparently an apology is in order for my out-of-hand comment.
Link is working now. Didn’t work for me the first two times I clicked.
And Jesse said something there that I agree with. It’s a first, but it’s true nonetheless.
Sorry for being harsh.
Jane’s been scarce around here too, though I’ve seen her comment from time to time. I hope she’s okay.
Jesse’s like my brother. Compassionate, populist yet extremely Libertarian. I’m not sure those philosophies are compatible though they are feel good.
I noticed that too.
Maybe she’s on vacation.
Yikes! The pic of a winking Shrub and the mephitic Dick Cheney. Is there no relief? (Throwing up a hairball on the carpet.) Can’t talk my b/f into moving to Antigua yet. Oy.
They don’t even try to hide it anymore. I heard Dennis Miller yesterday on the radio regarding budget cuts that hurt the poor: “You ARE heavy. You ain’t my brother. Life’s rough, wear a cup”.
Odd he’d pervert the old line “he ain’t heavy, he’s my brother” that is traditionally associated with a soldier carrying a wounded GI to safety and not complaining about his duty/sacrifice. I guess to Miller, social Darwinism and every man for himself is how he believes our soldiers should interact with each other on the battlefield.
They don’t even try to hide it. Just mean and tone-deaf.
Could be. She deserves one. :)
Awwwwwwww poor, poor Ryan. Apparently the President was supposed to say how “courageous” and “brave” Ryan was for putting forth his valiant effort to make sure the wealthy were safe during this economic downturn. *puke*
The lamestream media is so freakin’ predictable.
He’s hired.
Really? Left-wingers are very upset about how mean and partisan President Obama is, too. This Republican president sucks just as much as the last Republican president did. I think I preferred it when President Bush was the only Republican presidential asshole in town.
After all, LIEberman called him courageous so it must be true, right?
There’s a whole hill of a lotta a-holes to keep track of.
As Dennis has gotten richer he’s gotten more Republican. So it goes.
I think he has the “fear” gene.
I just think the partisan labels have become ridiculous. Republican. Democrat. They’ve become one in the same. A-holes the whole lot of ‘em.
The A**hole political party.
lol
Grandious Old Pharts
Gorged On Profit
Good ‘ole Pricks
Btw, are we supposed to be upset by Charles Krauthammer’s take on the speech? Why? Because he tends to get most of what he wants, while we get nothing more than crumbs or nothing at all? Mock him all you want, but he and his ilk go far right and get something to the right while those on our side, in the name of being reasonable, demand little more than compromise and end up with, well, something to the right. Maybe we need someone like Charles Krauthammer on our side now. We had a few in the 90s, but they’ve all gone off and drank the koolaid since Obama rode into town.
Dangerous dood. Ya gotta be more than a little crazy to be a SEAL.
The right wing should take heart as I am sure Obama will be the guess speaker at the next Tea Party rally where will tearfully say he was sorry he said those awful things because those no good whining bastard progressives MADE him say mean things about the great and wonderful GOP! So buck up or be like Joe and wake up! :)
He lost me for good at “whiners”. People who care about the welfare of the old, poor, sick, imprisoned, homeless…are whiners?
But, but…he gives food “oral”…Be Still My Heart,
I figured out without clicking on the hyperlinks and before I read all the quotes that they were really things said by Bush. Do I win a gold star?
Gang Of Plutocrats.
Is DECEMBER 2012(when he “lamely” signs it) in the bet?
He will extend the payroll tax holiday as well. Got to gut SS as well as M/M. We know that once a tax decrease is in place we can’t raise taxes. If I were a betting man I would bet on you.
make that GOOD oral
And this will be the game all through the 2012 elections, they will “pretend” Obama is a liberal and that they hate him and Obama will get Liberal cred in the compliant media and since most Americans dont’ pay attention to anything of ccnsequence…they will once again come to think Obama is “their” guy and a liberal (despit ZERO liberal policies being enactged in the first 4 years…baby steps).
You’re describing an important move in the KABUKI. Both sides have to play their part to get the desired results.
Meanwhile…
Each time the Charles Krauthammers of the world get most of what they want, they complain about the result and demand more.
Each time the American people get screwed (i.e. all the f’ing time), we’re told to be reasonable and to think to the next fight. In fact, the other day I got jumped on at FDL for pointing out that getting Glenn Beck off the air at Fox was hardly the great achievement of the decade. Other progressives will even tell one of their own that he or she should shut up and celebrate the minor victory, as if we’re supposed to pretend we won something huge so that we can feel good about ourselves.
Charles Krauthammer should be ~~~Edited by Moderator. Do not advocate violence, even as a fantasy~~~, then have all his money be taken away. Finally, he should be forced to work in the drywall installation trade–As an INSTALLER, not management!!!!
Oh sure, insult Putzes will ya?
How about Group of P…
Huh, there’s really no-where to go with this without insulting someone or something.
They have vilified me, they have crucified me, they have even criticized me.
– Richard J. Daley
When you’re as bloated as Chris Christie is, taking the bat to a younger, physically fit person just won’t do. It’s just got to be a weak, fragile old woman, don’t you know?
No, I think Charles Krauthammer should be putting his wonderful social skills to work as a Wal-Mart greeter.
O’boobooma is back on the political trail again, time to promise more
‘Audacity of Dope’. It’s going to take more than that for me to do
anything more than just possibly vote for him. I can at least keep talking
about politics, then as a voter. But, he doesn’t listen to us, he listens
to the “Property Party” as Gore Vidal labels them. Zionists, Iluminati,
Council Foreign Relations, Tri-Lats, you know the Global KKK…