Water Cooler – When Even Facts Won’t End A Conspiracy Theory

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I am kind of conflicted about Donald Trump and his flirtation with running for office through full throated Birtherism. On the one hand I love that the Teahadists are getting all excited about a potential candidate who has run several casinos into bankruptcy multiple times. There is the added benefit that the most likely thing is that he is going to get them all hot-in-the-bothered about him and then not run leaving them always thinking “If only the Donald had run! We might have won!”

The flip side of this is he is such a high profile bag-with-which-one-douches that he has really cranked the whole Birther BS up to 120% of rated insanity. At this point only 1 in 5 Republicans will say confidently that the president was born in the United States.

See if you can get your head around that number. Now I know a lot of people here have decided that they are done with the president, but I am willing to bet that 100% of them will say he was born here in the United States. That is not one of the issues that folks have with him.

I am not sure that there will ever be a way to put this whole thing to bed. It is just so pernicious and it has moved into the conspiracy theory realm where even evidence against it will be dismissed as a cover up.

What is so insane is that there is exactly no evidence that it is true. Michael Isikoff of MSNBC has a new article out, where he talks to the former Head of the Hawaii Department of Health, Dr. Chiyome Fukino (groovy name by the way). She says that it is completely ludicrous this whole issue.

She has personally reviewed the Health Department vital records which contain the so-called “long form” birth certificate, twice. She did so at the behest of the Governor of Hawaii, who at the time was a Republican and was actively campaigning for Sen. McCain.

Not that it is going to matter, as Dr. Fukino said in the article:

No matter what state officials release on the issue, the “birthers” are going to question it, said Fukino. “They’re going to question the ink on which it was written or say it was fabricated,” said Fukino. “The whole thing is silly.”

There are a couple of points that everyone should be reminded of. First off what the Obama campaign got when it requested then Sen. Obama’s birth certificate is what every one gets. You can see a copy of it below.

The other point, and this one is really critical is that the long form is part of the State Health Departments vital records. They don’t belong to the individual, they belong to state. Even if the President requested them to be released they would not be, there is actually a law against doing so in Hawaii. There also is no provision for providing a photo copy of them.

If the president wanted to see them, he would have to go and see them in person. He would not be allowed to look at anyone else’ records either.

This is where it all falls apart for the Birthers. There is no cover up, just the normal operation of the State of Hawaii. It should have died a long time ago, but when you have a segment of the population as ill informed as Fox “News” viewers then your going to get crazy shit sticking around and growing.

This is the best example of epistemological closure that you could ask for. The reason that a growing number of Republicans can’t accept that the president was born here is that they keep repeating the same information to each other and they don’t allow in any outside information. If you hear anything long enough you start to internalize it.
It is a sad state of affairs all the way around. How the hell are we supposed to govern a nation where one party is so out of touch with reality that an internet rumor has become the dominate meme for them?

What is on your minds tonight Firedogs? The floor is yours.

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