The Imperial Rooster — Khorn Sirrup Sundae (KSS). The band describes itself as:
We play an out there mix of folk, blues, country, & rock and roll that can only be described as GONZO ROOTS MUSIC. Like if Nick Cave and Tom Waits had a baby and that baby covered Johnny Cash songs with the Violent Femmes backing him up but used lyrics written by Hunter S Thompson and William Burroughs. We know this description is ridiculous. Maybe you should just come to a show or listen to the songs.
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Welcome!
Suz, Happy in WI.
hey kris — how was your day?
Hey Grammy ya sitting on tacks these days??
hey nonq — us non wisconsin folks are happy for ya! how ya was your day?
hey nahant — still in wait and worry mode — how’s deadwood city tonight?
Kris, thanks for the nice updates last night.
This is hilarious. And perfect.
ditto — it was a real nail biter and kris was a huge help
isn’t it! i forking love this song
You’re welcome, and evenin’!
@Suz – today was good. I armed MrsKrisA with a digital camera and asked her to go find the ghost-boy for me tonight. We’ll see what she turned up an about an hour or so.
check out this Japanese ad for a cell phone as good as that sapporo beer ad…
who ya gonna call?
excellent suz!
*heh* an ‘out there’ mix…! Gotta love the description alone…! ;-)
Aloha, Suz, LLN pups, and Imperial Rooster…! ;-)
Great song! Bookmarked. I love it.
hey tw3k — how ya doing tonight?
aloha tut — how’s paradise tonight?
check out their utube channel – some great tunes there
As promised in the Late Night Thread:
Crossroads live.
Video to come, some day…
My neighbor across the street is in the same mode for their second one… grandpa and grandma came in today for the happy occasion… Mom is looking well you know big as a c…
hey patrick — i love your playing dood. seriously, get me a utube that is front pageable
how ya doing tonight?
I did an outside yard work day. The snow is mostly gone, pulled out a rake and cleaned up the view outside my office (living room) window. Also cleaned out a 5 foot by 20 foot flower bed that had gotten out of control and totally overgrown. It will be an addition to the kitchen herb garden.
So this is Korhn signin’ on and i’m glad ya’ll liked the video,we have a bunch more on youtube if you’d like to see more.We did this because we couldn’t make it to South by Southwest in Austin so it’ll have to do.
That was pretty darn cool.
Ha!
Soggy…! We even had some thunder and lightning…! I saw some satellite images showing that you’re in the same boat…! 8-(
feels good to have that view cleaned up don’t it :) nothing like doing some physical labor and enjoying the satisfaction of a job done just how ya want it
Just dandy!
I really had fun playing with the troll on the Brad Blog chat. He was paid, and he met the progressives! It was a blast!
fun :D great t00b
Welcome! Loved the video.
hey kohrn — welcome to lln — i love your stuff dood. am i correct in thinking that ya’ll are in new mexico?
*SPLAAAAASH* ahh
Great, ty, how’bout you!? :)
Aloha, Kohrn…! Mahalo for being here tonite…!
Wasn’t it? My sweetie said is was almost perfect for the piece.. How the hell did they do that?? sheesh..
Excellent! Thanks for sharing :)
kohrn — i love that the video came to us from porch by porchwest :) what instrument do ya play?
It’s a lot of engineering, that’s for sure. I was wondering myself. I’m sure there are mathematical equations involved.
kohrn — there is a reply button at the bottom of each comment — if ya click it the system will prefill out whose comment you are replying too.
also, refresh the page to see new comments
lol! ‘porch by porchwest’
More washboard, Suz.
;>)
Love your stuff!
Hi Suz, Hi Kohrn, and all the pups — brb, listening to the tune!
rooster anthem
hey db — how’s the great white north tonight?
Indian ate a woodchuck.
Old friend of mine on the fiddle.
way more than that just making all the differnt pieces of the glockenspiel bars and delaying/controlling the notes as written is amazing..
hey ll — how’s nova tonight?
Melting by inches, Suz. Sad to hear about my pal losing his gig.
;>)
OK. That’s it. I’m tired of coddling all of you. Grow up!
Bah! You hippies don’t live in the real world!
/s
First, I’m promised DSL service in Sept, finally. Not holding my breath, but I am apologizing for not being able to take an hour to download the video right now. The flower bed will look nicer when I get some herbs and salad greens in there.
hahahahaha what a great pout (and sign)
Ok, that was fun! You all have a great sound!
shit.. that reminds me of a bad trip i had back when i was a teen…
woohoo!!! i hope it comes through for ya nonq
Pretty quiet Suz, and that’s a good thing; I need calm around me right now! Trying to get a bunch of ducks in a row and looking into retirement…
Where is the mad prophet of the airwaves now, I ask you?
;>)
iirc you have an appt this week with the retirement benefits folks to see how those numbers play out?
If there’s anyone on the thread that would just love to create a music video – I’ll happily give you some music, just so Suz gets some eye candy to post!
I’ll even make it a protest song…
Well, my heart went boom…
out looking for even more tinfoil for his next get rich scheme…
Snicker.
This coming Wednesday :-)
more rooster
I love you guys!
My favorite is Pig Fork. I went to high school with Steve Terrell. So glad you’re here tonight!
hey margot — how’s ohio tonight?
pig fork
All they are missing is pyrotechnics!!! Explosions!!! In time with the bass!!! Right before the pause!!!
Me like.
keep it up :)
“The Imperial Rooster covering (most of) The Mariner’s Revenge Song by The Decemberists. Now in patented Stevie Two Beers Drunk-O-Vision!”
evening, Suzzzz
If you Forking love this song checkout Pigfork Jamboree on youtube or Facebook,you’ll pee your pants!
hey ppd — how ya doing tonight?
That’s outstanding!
I want to know when the Pig Fork tour comes to California!
Springlike, and about damn time. How about you?
i love pig fork dood but your anthem… well, gets my toes a tappin (in a non larry craig kinda way) :)
Suz you can disregard my email — the hiccup appears to be cured :-)
more fucking rain and wind :( hail too (so that was kinda cool) but i’m ready for some sunshine
Such stress could drive a man…to the other side.
;>)
i follow the rooster on their twitter and facebook. twitter is how i found out about them
That done with a pignose?
AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
Citizen Suzanne:
Hey there Sister Sunshine,are ya joinin us baskin’ in the warm moment of victory in Wisconsin tanight, before we go back out amongst ‘em tomorrow? All I got ta tell ya is if ya like how this feels wait until we take back the country from those fascist bastards!!
But seriously, Dear Heart, the force of history is immutable and though there are moments where we are elevated to heights above the mountains of fear and ignorance to glimpse the promise of a future, the only thing that is constant in this history thing is the struggle and hope…and the folks in Wisconsin are flat makin’ some history.
Too much goin’ on in the Norske household and out on the turf of this heartland of democracy and anus of progress to spend much time talkin’ shit and swappin’ lies…Mrs. Norske is bein forced to retire early after 32 years thanx to Governor Shitforbrains so all we’ve had time for is our kids, grandkids and “the movement” lately. But I promise I’ll stop by and share some wonderful stories about what it means to be part of what Howard Zinn wrote as “A People’s History of the United States” when I find a roadside rest on history’s highway.
By the way has there been a late night sighting of Brother Raven lately? I heard a couple a kool kids gave ‘im some trouble awhile back…hope it wasn’t here at Late Late Night.
Keep the tunes hot and the conversation hotter Sister Suzanne and…
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION, REMEMBER THERE IS NO COMPROMISIN’ WITH FASCISM!!
tired, but OK otherwise, thanks
hopefully that’s the poor side of town
_always_ ready for sunshine.
We get some rain later tonight and it’s cooling off here.
It’s impossible to get people excited about typical California weather at this time of year. It’s sunny. No, it’s raining a little. Now it’s sunny again. I think it’s chilly a bit. Hand me my t-shirt.
I don’t want to be a media whore but we do have a cd out on all the usual outlets.Plus we just recorded a new album last month which will be out in June or July.And yep,we’re all New Mexicans.It’s raining here now,the first time all year I think..
u lost count nft :(
I had one of those!
Come to think of it… what the hell happened to it?
hey norske — was hoping to hear from ya after the victory in wisconsin. that sucks about mrs norske dood *spitting* there is fuckery a’foot dood…
nothing here at late late night — but ya know how we are kinda like switzerland.. tis neutral turf here on the dark side of the lake
u dirty lill media whore. ;)
is it available on itunes?
:o
BRB. Must… start… food… in… microwave…
I just realized I’ve only had eggs and turkey bacon (STOP LAUGHING) today.
hey, i’m gonna hit the itunes and get some rooster with the gift card steph gave me
Citizen tw3k:
Huh??!!!
All my ex-es have my axes…
I’m pretty sure, now that I think about it, that it was a casualty of love.
you used to count the days of the war :/
cause, now allll ur exes have taxes.
Citizen tw3k:
Haven’t been doin that for a number a years, Citizen, but then I haven’t been doin a lotta things for a number a years.
Beyond the Universe, the source of all we see,
Where dwells the true Real, here only a hazy facsimile:
A projected Reality is illusion, a hologram of time and space;
Our sham 3D reality dreams from that distant place
“I think, therefore I am” is the greatest delusion;
All around us—and us—is a massive confusion;
Because we dare not dwell on the true source of our being,
For fear we cease to be, along with all we are seeing
I wrote Creation exactly on this reality is a hologram theory. The story is in the Twin Trinity Media anthology Elements of Dimension, available here:
http://www.amazon.com/Elements-Dimension-Science-Fiction-Fantasy/dp/0984209549/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1301181750&sr=8-1
lightnin’ bill
Goodness, he might even join the carny!
A Mormon boy, yet.
;>)
What’s the name of the CD?
hey robert — how’s soPA tonight?
w3rd :/
fuck — i did it again.. i snagged the fucking lucky happy 100
shit
Any good venues on the left coast anyone can recommend?We’re planning a short tour out that way sometime soon I hope,I need to see the ocean…and get a sunburn and sand in my ass..!Ha!
*pro*
in response to 100
old good poor crazy dead was their first cd
The beatings will continue until this behavior ceases.
What is the true source of our being?
I’m gonna ease out a little early tonight, my sleep is still messed up (partly my fault!) but I’m trying to correct that…
Glad to be here even for a short while and hear some great Imperial Rooster tunage! I’m following you on Facebook now. Look forward to hearing more from you. Thanks for being here! And thanks Suz for hosting them tonight. Good night all!
Rooster’s Roadhouse is a small venue in Alameda, CA that’s always happy to have good live bands. Great turnout usually, too.
if ya play portland, let me know — i’m about 2 hours west of portland on the oregon coast.
i think for sure ya should try to play don quixotes in felton (santa cruz mts) 13 miles from the beach
g’nite ll
take care ll
Nite LL, good to see you!
Thanks LoudinLib..remember..Er er err err errrrrr!!
You were a step ahead of the physicists. And the one doing the experiment is no slouch.
In order to test the hypothesis, he’s building (or has already built) 2 large holoscopes, the largest and most sensitive ever made. He has two of them because he is so certain they’ve found the proof, he’s using the second to confirm the first.
We are digital.
Interestingly, he spoke of the collapse of the illusion by proving it is so. Now THAT would be interesting!
As I said to someone else, when we get out of the simulation, we have to find Cheney and kick his ass.
I play the Banjo or at least I attempt to play the banjo,sometimes the slide,sometimes the fiddle…
We and all we see is sourced to a 13-ryar-old child god beyond the membrane of the Universe playing a video game. We are his Sims….
Yes! I’m just on the other side of the hill. I’ll go!
Roosters Roadhouse..great name,I’ll be sure to look them up,Thanks!
sweet — tis nice pickin’ in this song — i love the opening
Sweet! That’s a mind-fuck.
LOL @ last P
never cold again (with introduction of band members)
y ty
Margot, How cool!Steve is awesome and a great supporter of the band.We did a show with him a couple of months back and we’re going to record with him one of his songs for a Shooter Jennings compilation album..I’ll be sure to say hi.He’s a grampa now, his first.
I suspect outside the universe is where the data is.
There is a theory of the holo universe. It holds that everything at the quantum level is data stored elsewhere. They even consider the Heisenberg uncertainty principle in the theory and believe it occurs because both values are presented in a single API. And they also believe that because of the dual-slit experiment where you can hide the data from yourself for years and when you then decide to read it, the wave pattern disappears and particle behavior appears, that the universe conserves energy by only presenting a particle when it is needed (see: entangled particles). In other words, it’s a simulation of a universe, and a damned good one.
BTW, we can now make holograms you can touch.
We are not here. Or we’re entirely digital.
Actually, experiments will eventually prove we create ourselves and the Universe we live in; that we really exist on the other side of the membrane and “Create” imaginary physical lives as entertainment for others like us.
The one that ‘created’ the Christ ‘manifestation’ is the most celebrated ‘creator’ passed the membrane.
I know, I listen to his show and can’t wait for our reunion this summer (big 40). I want more pics of that grandbaby, that’s for sure.
Wow! Keep those names coming,I’ll spend the day making phone calls..Thanks!
Just driving by. Thursday is Billie Holiday‘s birthday.
So I’m just a figment of my own imagination, created to amuse my fellows outside this universe?
being digital. we’ve already been hacked by aliens. lol ;)
not sure if they still do, but the radio station i listened to when i was living in the santa cruz mts was KPIG — they would have a list of all the great places to hear live music in the santa cruz area on their website — don’t know if they still do but…..
I wouldn’t be the least surprised. That pretty much explains Fark.
Alright. Robert made me sad.*g* Time for me to say goodnight.
Thanks to the band for being here! Thanks Suz for lining it up, thanks Wisconsin for Kloppenberg, and thanks FDLers for the conversation this evening.
Nite all!
hey mr why — nice driveby dood — and g’nite
g’nite kris
The artwork on your flyers is wonderful. I’d pay for t-shirts with those.
lol, ‘among others.’
At SJSU I took music appreciation (for my humanities requirements) from Professor Strange, who brought the rebel DJ’s in to class. There was a minor revolt (not sure if it was KPIG, but I think it was) and the station was going to change its format. So they rounded up all of the albums from the station to safeguard them.
He also invited many country, western and bluegrass musicians to play. I got to do my class project by writing and recording 5 CW songs. And yes, I did get an A.
That was a great class.
Nice music. Made me think of this.
Suzanne you’re gonna love ” I Like the Way She Says Fuck ” on our new album…every time we play it I’m going to think of you..
Yes, and you have metaverse groupies, too, watching everything you do in this current holographic life you created. You write the script, cast your supporting actors, rehearse and put on the holographic play.
Excerpt from my story:
I summon all who participated in my previous creations and those creators I interned for. Their auras let me know none are pleased to be within my space, even the one who was Matthew to my Luke in the creation manifested by the most heralded Creator in the Multiverse.
“I truly am sorry about my last creation,” I tell them, “I understand many of you don’t want to waste your energies on anything less than what was achieved by the Creator of the Christ Saga.”
The gathered tinkle in agreement.
The adulation for the Christ manifest was so great; the watchers could only helplessly roll above their seats, unable to applaud. We all aspire to create like that, to develop elements of glorious promise crushed by the most unforgivable betrayal, yet transcend on a cloud of absolute forgiveness. Until we do, we yearn to be working with the Great Creator.
You are a natural for Don Quixotes, I agree with Suz on that. Or possibly Moe’s Alley.
prob was KFAT — the folks there that got dumped started up KPIG — laura ellen was part of that crew (may she rest in peace)
i fucking want that song dood! let me know when the cd comes out
Either you are just part of the sim or you are outside the sim, entangled, as it were, with the particles in this universe.
A bunch of old acid heads did a lot of serious experimenting with virtual reality. In a few years you will get immersed in video games to the point where you cannot tell it from reality.
Time, as we know it, is a product of this universe. It is part of space itself, which is why it is called spacetime. So for all we know, we are immersed in a device in an arcade and we’ll have an hour or two pass over our lifetimes.
As the Bible intones, “A day is as a thousand years and a thousand years is as a day.”
hey wmd — how’s the mt tonight?
And I’m doing a drive by myself. Early call again tomorrow. Left coast coordination with Europe makes for early calls. At least it isn’t back to back with a call to Siberia, 14 hours difference is really rough.
moe’s alley in santa cruz for sure… i couldn’t remember their name… its been what.. almost 3 years now
We have a ‘special’ endearment for the word fuck ’round these parts.
tis good to see your fonts, even if its a drive by wmd
g’nite dood
I love the Austin Lounge Lizards!Can’t get enough of those guys!Are you familiar with the Asylum Street Spankers?
Yep! It was KFAT! And we had them in class while the new owners were looking for them and the albums. They are heroes!
we LOVE the spankers! i’ve featured them up top several times
We never lived nor never die. We create ourselves….
beer
I’ll fucking get it too you as soon as it fucking comes fucking out,it’s a fucking rad fucking song doodette!
Mountains are just beautiful.
RC is a bit irritated with me; he got in a fight last week, bad abscess on his right side, chunk of fur about the size of 2 quarters missing, wound is about size of one quarter. He is being kept indoors until the wound scabs over, getting daily disinfecting with peroxide.
And I think left over broccoli quiche is cool enough to put in fridge and I can get some sleep.
beer?
yeah… Spankers still going? I’ve been hearing rumors that they’re breaking up, Whammo is leaving, etc for years. Kind of like the Who.
No, but I have friends in West Hollywood. ;)
Been there. Seen that.
Everybody needs an avatar.
fuckin a!!! thanks dood :)
sending RC some warm positive healing thoughts so he gets outta house arrest soon
beer
wake and bake
good night all. And I’ll be looking for Imperial Cock up… er Rooster to play in the Santa Cruz mountains.
b double e…
g’nite wmd
And the proof from the experiments yet to come will cause the illusion to collapse, as you said.
The veil will be lifted very very soon….
Heh, I know Tina Louise Barr and 57Silverhawk n HER husband from festivals.
You ever frequent CA’s Strawberry Music Fest or CBA’s Father’s Day Fest?
my fav beer
Hey Suz, thanks for the music and your guests. I have been unable to refresh the page and a SueBee Honey advertisement has hijacked the original music video from your guests. Off to bed, here.
Spring is near, the big ice cube is breaking up,(near top, center left) and the weather will warm shortly there after. Be good to each other.
hey larue — how’s sac tonight?
one-o-my favs :D
g’nite nonq
It’s past this old farts bedtime, so i’m signing off.Thanks for all the love and the good time.Hope we can do it again sometime soon!Laterbye!
It’s interesting to realize this is an illusion. Not that some of us hadn’t figured THAT one out in the late 60′s.
I find it interesting also to contemplate how accurate the philosophy of Zen is. It’s precisely what the physicists are saying.
Interesting mix in the link, BTW.
g’nite kohrn — was great having ya here — don’t be a stranger dood
Thanks for being here KSS!
In that vein, I’m wondering if they’ll get a chance to post the results first.
Like the slit experiment, does it collapse when Craig observes the results from the first holoscope or when he checks the confirming ‘scope.
Physics is awesome.
Come back again soon!!!
Nite, what a treat to have you here. Make More Music!
i forking love it when we have guests like kohrn – we get to say fuck and everything
and i really appreciate it when ya’ll give our guests a warm fdl welcome and make them feel comfy enough to say fuck.
thank you
damn, Schrödinger’s, cat :(
No! Fucking Thank You, Suz. :)
Link
*blushing*
what tw3k said! (hi bud)
This reminds me of a fuck thread we did a couple of months ago. I fucking enjoyed that one!
All that will mean is that the game is over, but we’ll just ‘create’ another game.
It’s boring where we really are. Creating is our and our audience’s entertainment.
As Shakesphere said: We are all on a stage just playing our parts. When the play is over, we go back to remembering and being who we really are.
fuck threads are fucking fun!
hiya margot :D
Fuck spelled backwards is still fuck….only backwards….
Fuck. The. Shit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyxNgnQ9m30
BTW, the article about the holoscopes was posted Tue, 02 Nov 2010. He said it would take a year or so to get them built and more time to debug them.
That should take us to…
2012!!!!!
happy lucky happy 200 patrick!!!
zomg. u did not say 2012!!!111
i love that song.. i can’t wait to hear the roosters fuck song
w3rd
I was going to say the veil would be lifted in 2012, but I didn’t want to risk being branded a looney tunes….
okies, love you all. g’nite.
I’ll see you and raise you Stewart’s House.
Land Shark!
just got a nice email from khorn — he had a great fucking great time with you guys :)
g’nite tw3k
Outfuckingstanding!
We are on the holodeck?
O.M.G! I knew it. God is just a really good holodeck programmer!
Nite!
hey spocko — how was your day?
Precisely, Captain.
I suspect the programs themselves were an attempt to inform the religiously inclined masses and perhaps soften the blow.
And, just for yuks, if you knew this and you were a right-wing politician, how might you act? As if you were in a video game so nothing mattered?
Just one big, beautiful holodeck.
We are the gods doing the creating.
In fact, every one of us spend our lives here in the hologram continually creating stuff: art, planting, baking, FDL; everything comes from our drive to create….
I create computer programs and music. The MIC creates havoc. The Japanese are creating nuclear water! What fun!
Actually, they have gone so far as to say this is likely a 3D projection from 2D.
Sort of like being projected from the walls of the holo suite.
Of course, the simple act of observing quantum particles changes them. It may very well be after the experimenter suceeds, only the veil will be lifted for him, but the rest of us go on with the game….
Not if we view his data.
We are all quantized. That’s just the way it is.
If he disappears, can I have his toys?
His toys will disappear with him….
I remember in engineering chemistry the professor, a very dry guy, said, “The difference between wave nature and particle nature is that something with wave nature acts as a wave and something with particle nature behaves as a particle.”
Someone in the back of the lecture hall piped up. “Professor, I don’t understand what you just said. What’s the difference between them?”
So he answered, “Well, something which behaves as a wave, we say has wave nature. And something that behaves as a particle has particle nature.”
The student remained confused.
The professor erased the chalk boards.
The game will, then, shift into a parallel universe where he never existed, nor his experiments, and we will have no recollection of him….
Light behaves as both wave and particle, Photon waves change to particles when slowed.
A rock is just frozen light….
Not necessarily. We recall the two-slit experiment (which works for light, electrons, protons and, so far, a number of atoms). The researchers recalled the wave pattern even after looking at the data and observing the collapse into particles.
I want his toys. Then I go back to the arcade, find Cheney and kick his ass. It’s my goal in life.
I am the very model of a modern quantum theory quark
Cheney was just following the script for this game we all wrote. Beyond the membrane, he is just the actor who agreed to play the part. I’m certain he so entertained the audience that he will be celebrated by them when the game is over for him….
LOL! Outstanding!
And I’m only half-though it.
thought ya’ll would enjoy that :)
Them. Not me. I’m going to find him and send his sorry ass to that universe where nobody listens to a damn thing he says.
He may be an actor, but I don’t have to like the script. Or the performance.
I read a great book called the neuroplasticity of the mind and the power of mental force.
The book pointed out that things in our brain happen at the quantum level. I also was reading a SF book at the time that talked about how our minds act as if they exist outside the brain.
Hey, all! On a fly by and wanted to let you know that “Stop Wikileaks Torture” is an Avaaz.Org initiative to collect 200,000 international signers to petition on behalf of Bradley. Thank you in advance for your help. Buenos noches!
Even birds are getting into the act.
That was incredibly well done. Bookmarked for eternity….
hey mzchief — thanks and g’nite
the lyrics are in the ‘show more’ section… i love that she’s an english major doing this….
We all agreed to the script Cheney followed and we can hate the character, but not the guy that was just playing the part….
Signed!
I’d love to listen to him name names while trying to save his own skin. I’m not sure how anyone cannot despise that man.
hey chaeronea — how ya doing tonight?
The mind does exist outside of the brain. In fact, the mind is on the other side of the membrane creating our holographic universe and illusionary lives….
Good here, getting a bit late for me though. How are you doing?
Nice. Had fun. Enjoyed. From The Road Burma Shave to Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas it’s great to see this homespun excellence. Sweeter than pecan pie and a shot of bourbon. Congratulations. I’m a fan.
speaking of membranes… i’m so glad that baby julianna didn’t pick today to make her appearance — i figured with my luck, she would and i would have to reschedule the rooster
i’m enjoying the evening chaeronea — other than the blasted rain and cold. i’m more than ready for spring
Thank you! :-)
hey seamore — glad you liked the rooster. i hope to have them back when their CD releases in a few months. how ya doing tonight?
It keeps trying to snow here once and again, then teasing us with 50 degrees or so, always a good time.
Isn’t that interesting? we all enter life by breaking through our mothers’ membrane; and so it is our holographic existence comes from the membrane on the edge of the universe….
I think that’s what Arthur C. Clark meant at the end of 2001: A Space Odyssey…
Ah. Metaphysics. My old haunt.
Let me just say I understand where you’re coming from and I’m being a bit facetious. But it’s equally likely we’re in an arcade playing the hot game. I’m not sure it’s all that scripted. Just digital.
Think of it like WoW or Call of Duty. There are scripted elements, to be sure. But you don’t necessarily buy into, or know, the complete picture.
In WoW you may have several avatars with differing skills. It’s a fun game for our time, but in a far more advanced civilization (or universe, if you prefer), that would be extremely boring in the extreme.
This, on the other hand, is exquisite. No one can argue that this isn’t an amazing construct. But as a projection, it’s not wholly scripted. There is a randomness to it.
Furthermore, without getting into the nature of entanglement for the moment, it’s entirely possible, even probable, that we are part of the construct and not necessarily… alive in the sense we think of being alive.
I do prefer the version you offer. Or the arcade version. But as a construct of the universe only? Meh. We’d just reappear, none the wiser for our trials.
I definitely don’t like that one, but it’s not ruled out yet.
Now it it all collapses, we’ll know for sure. Shall we meet for tea afterwards?
You’re making me want to pull out some philosophy of mind works I have and keep trying to understand that concept even more.
i had a couple days of being right around 60 and then whammo… more rain and arctic air. there’s forking snow down to the 1500 ft level and it may drop down to 1,000 tonight. weather dood said we may have some dry and warm up this weekend but are gonna get hit with another blast next week. i want to wear tshirts instead of fleece. its thirty forking seven degrees outside
Sent word of your latest endeavors to Canadian peeps. They’re new fans!
Metaphysically, who cares?
Physically I’d like to kick his ass. He’s as decent a human being as Mr. Hilter.
It’s the duality of the thing.
Wherever Metauniverse actors congregate when the show’s over, I’ll be there. We’ve known each other since before we created Time….
As I’ve mentioned before, I was raised in Oregon and lived there as an adult. Altogether I guess it’s about 15 or so years.
Here’s the CA version of the same weather fronts (as they usually are):
TONIGHT
MOSTLY CLEAR IN THE EVENING THEN BECOMING MOSTLY
CLOUDY. A CHANCE OF RAIN AFTER MIDNIGHT. LOWS IN THE MID 40S.
NORTHWEST WINDS 10 TO 20 MPH
BECOMING WEST 5 TO 10 MPH AFTER
MIDNIGHT.
THURSDAY
RAIN LIKELY AND ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS. SOME
THUNDERSTORMS MAY PRODUCE SMALL HAIL. HIGHS IN THE LOWER 50S.
NORTHWEST WINDS 5 TO 15 MPH INCREASING TO AROUND 20 MPH IN THE
AFTERNOON.
THURSDAY NIGHT
MOSTLY CLOUDY. A CHANCE OF RAIN AND ISOLATED
THUNDERSTORMS. SOME THUNDERSTORMS MAY PRODUCE SMALL HAIL. LOWS IN
THE UPPER 30S. NORTH WINDS 10 TO 20 MPH
BECOMING NORTHWEST
AROUND 5 MPH AFTER MIDNIGHT.
FRIDAY
MOSTLY CLOUDY IN THE MORNING THEN BECOMING PARTLY
CLOUDY. ISOLATED SHOWERS. HIGHS IN THE UPPER 50S. LIGHT WINDS
BECOMING NORTHWEST 5 TO 10 MPH IN THE AFTERNOON. AREAL COVERAGE
OF SHOWERS 20 PERCENT.
FRIDAY NIGHT
MOSTLY CLEAR. LOWS AROUND 40. NORTH WINDS
5 TO 10 MPH.
SATURDAY
PARTLY CLOUDY. HIGHS IN THE MID 60S.
SATURDAY NIGHT
PARTLY CLOUDY. LOWS IN THE MID 40S.
SUNDAY
MOSTLY CLOUDY. HIGHS IN THE MID 60S.
SUNDAY NIGHT AND MONDAY
PARTLY CLOUDY. LOWS IN THE MID 40S.
HIGHS IN THE MID 60S.
MONDAY NIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY
MOSTLY CLEAR. LOWS IN THE MID
40S. HIGHS IN THE UPPER 60S.
&&
TEMPERATURE / PRECIPITATION
SAN JOSE 47 53 39 59 / 30 70 30 10
MORGAN HILL 45 52 36 58 / 30 70 30 20
The song is a lot of fun — the group plays well (wish I could understand some of the lyrics a little better), the song is clever and contemporary, and they have good rapport with each other. Best wishes for success.
Seems you’ve hit the source of belief systems having a punishment component. Be it heaven, Karama, what have you, we seem to be attracted to the idea that we can understand good and evil in people to be something greater than the person itself. I’m not so sure, I’m not going to feel much grief for the actions of someone like Cheney, but maybe I’m just not as good as others are.
hey bluewombat — glad ya liked it — how ya doing tonight?
yeah, I haven’t had my coat on a while, but 30 for me isn’t really much more than an extra layer. We got snow back home at my parents, passed over where I am right now mostly. This winter just won’t give up.
You must have read David Bohm at some point. I enjoyed “Wholeness and the Implicate Order” as I believe it was called.
its those 60′s i covet
If Cheney hadn’t existed, we would have had to create him in order to fullfill our parts in this game/play/Metamovie….
i’m a wuss. i lived in california from 1964 to 2008. got spoiled by the easy weather. this is my first la nina up here — that means a very wet spring with colder temps.
I suppose you’re right, the why doesn’t matter in the scope of things. Yet we can understand why the negative feelings and response would exist in someone aware of his crimes. Something in me just is curious what defense he’d proffer if put in a position of weakness.
Awe, I’m in the northeast right now, but have been all over. Cali is definitely not the same as farther north =P
Never read him, but I certainly will now.
Somehow, the things I’ve been writing about here tonight I’ve alway known or never forgot.
We know this stuff as babies, but it is sealed away when the soft spot of our skulls close to keep us focused on this artificial reality….
Sure, but him or the replacement for him should still serve as a warning for the future.
He would defend himself by simply stating he was just following the script as we all rehearsed it….
If we are in an arcade (yes, Virginia, there is a multiverse) or in some awesome sim, all bets are off.
I don’t know if there is a punishment component. Think about it. Who gets punished for losing in Yuri’s Revenge? Command and Conquer? What if your best buddy created this sim and you went in and wreaked havoc. What would your buddy do? Throw you into a fiery hell?
Hmm… Come to think of it, there IS a multiverse… /s
He’d probably chew you out, fix the sim and never let you play again.
The resurrection the Bible speaks of is nothing if not the return of the sims.
Good you can also tell them I love Canada and lots of Canadians.
I wish we had a Tommy Douglas in America. I know the space shuttle arm is Canadian and
One of my best Internet friends lives in Ontario.
It hit 80 degrees here a week ago. Then it went away.
You wouldn’t enjoy the place much in August.
i love oregon — its so forking pretty and the people are so nice. i just wish i could see a wee bit more of the sun. my last 5 years in ca was in the santa cruz mts in a temperate rain forest and we got just about the same average amount of rain (about 70″ year) down there but we got it all in about 5 months. living on the coast is a lot grayer than i’m used to tho.
He’d squeal like the piggie he is.
i had no a/c at the cabin in boulder creek. i don’t remember those days when it hit 104 with fondness.
Boulder Creek? Felton?
I don’t mean to argue against that, perhaps it was a misguided observation. I meant to imply we cling to the traditional systems out of fear of the possible conditions you describe. Trying to force people away from fatalism comes to mind.
i love that forking song
Oh the fun they must have had rehearsing back in the 90s afterhours at the Project for New American Century, er…
You’re probably right. Although I’d suspect something about how us mere plebs not being able to understand his worldview would be likely.
Its quite nice, but yeah, the sun doesn’t come out and play as much as other areas. The mists and grey can kinda be a downer, I honestly don’t mind that weather at all though.
Boulder Creek it is!
Yeah. I’m helping out Mom (who is 89 and still manages a quite large and diverse garden here). No A/C so I added one. And she throws open the doors and windows at 3 pm because usually that’s when the breeze happens. Except in August when the breeze is a blast furnace.
BTW, a lot of the plants came from Oregon. She even had a rubber tree growing in the basement of the house in Portland. She has a major green thumb. The plants just obey.
The Resuurection is the lifting of the veil, when we all break our concentration on the stage to remember we never really were that person nor lived his or her life: that there never was a thing called life nor a thing called death in the first place.
We don’t really live here, so we never die here, either.
boulder creek — at the junction of bear creek and the san lorenzo
Exactly.
i have black thumbs not green ones — i tend to kill plants but have gotten somewhat better since i retired.
We exist behind the membrane….
I know you get it from your comments. It’s just metaphysical when you wonder about the other side of the membrane, as it was referred to earlier.
It’s not that what we do here doesn’t matter. It matters a great deal. I think that’s what is being referred to in the Revelation when John quotes God as intending to bring to ruin those ruining the earth (check your translation – your mileage may vary).
If I ran the damn arcade, I’d throw him out on his ass. George Harrison is free to return.
I love the edit button. It’s my friend. I want to take it with me to other sites.
It’s kind of like you hate the characters in Who’s Afraid of Virginia Wolfe, but you love the actors who portrayed the miserable pair…
tis only the diaries that don’t have the edit *sigh*
I’m fine, thanks Suzanne and all the better for your fun posting. I’ve never heard of them before. Looking forward to the next one! I looked the rooster up on youtube. I’m a fan. I owe you one!
Apparently so.
It’s been demonstrated that many particles in the universe are entangled with other particles. However, it has not been demonstrated that the entanglement is functioning from outside the projection system.
There is a branch of physics called plasma physics. There are some in that field who suspect the universe is a plasma field hologram, and time is the expansion of the field.
sweet! i’m a fan of theirs too — twas my pleasure to introduce them to the readers at the lake
Luckily we just get to attempt to justify our own results, to ourselves, and whoever else we happen to meet along the way. Harrison would be a welcome trade imo.
I didn’t care that much for George Segal.
Liz, on the other hand…
Agreed. Make it so, #1.
Another excerpt from Creation:
I am on my back on a dirty blanket. I pooped in my diaper some time ago, but Mom doesn’t seem to have noticed yet. This is the part of manifestation I hate the most, the helplessness of the baby stage. It would be better if it didn’t take so long to completely forget my true reality. Still, for the time I can remember, I am free to come and go from this body when I want to, but not so often that doing so retards the infant’s growth. So, I must remain here long enough for the baby to achieve enough misery, from the mess drying all over his ass, to cry.
Two interns are in the playpen, although there is nothing in there to play with. The oldest is now a toddler, but not yet old enough to be unable to communicate with me. The other intern is out of the other’s body, glaring at Mom. Mom is reclined on the sofa, smoking a cigarette and reading a paperback novel.
“I didn’t sign on for this,” the out-of-body intern tells me. “My manifestation is full of mucus, and that woman’s smoking is making it worse. Why doesn’t she take me to a doctor.”
“She will,” I tell the intern, “You need to be more persistent in crying. Let the snot pour from your nose and refuse to eat.”
“She’s such an idiot,” the intern says.
Without looking up from the page, my collaborator speaks from within Mom’s body, “I’m just following the script. Don’t take it out on me. Take it up with poopy-pants.”
Poopy-pants being me, I respond, “You did sign on for this, brother. Mom is a very experienced manifestor, staying within the limits of her predetermined personality. She will only mother us when we make her mother us. Let me demonstrate.”
I begin to cry. Mom continues to read. I raise the volume of my crying. Mom remains unaffected. I cry and scream. Mom gets off the sofa, clearly annoyed. She checks me out.
“Poo-tink! Poo-tink,” she says. Then, with amazing dexterity, she removes my diaper, cleans me and secures me in a fresh diaper.
“What about us,” the out-of-body intern says about the manifestations still in the playpen. “Okay, let’s cry, then,” he tells the oldest brother.
The room fills with crying and screaming. Mom abandons me to pick up the wheezing baby, forcing its intern to return to his body. Mom tries to get the manifestation to drink formula, but he refuses. My brother smears his snot on Mom’s neck and shoulder, then vomits to emphasize his distress.
“You’re learning,” I tell him.
Mom telephones her mother for help.
Double sigh to that one. It’s like a different site altogether. This all seems to be a wordpress (or maybe drupal) installation.
Nah. WordPress. It works too fast when you’re logged in. In drupal, you have to add caching and it still is a tad slower.
myfdl is a buddy press thingie and fdl and the sister sites are wordpress thingie
Aye, aye, Captain. My only request is that I meet more people who feel the same as I get older, or maybe that’s my task, to seek them out and inspire such people to exist.
Yep. That makes sense. The site I’m finishing up is a buddypress bastardization. I wound up having to write a rather significant plug-in so we are intimately acquainted, the two of us.
happy lucky very rare 300 patrick!!!
300, patrick. That is awesome!
Better yet, that is fucking awesome!
Time to go back behind the membrane….
The older you get, the more interesting it all seems. I do have a few gripes. Humans age too quickly. By the time you figure out what’s what you’re in decline. Ask any NBA basketball player. The really savvy ones aren’t the kids. Even the great ones. I’d prefer about 300 years, but then the rest of you would have to procreate less, and sex is one thing all creatures can’t seem to kick the addiction to, LOL.
I saw a lovely documentary on mating frogs recently.
Woot! Woot!
tis outfuckingstanding!!!
Not only that, I’ve had not one but two database errors on posts!
tis past time for me to turn into a pumpkin folks. thank you so very much for making tonight a great fucking night!
g’nite all
You leaving? If so, let me say that it’s been very nice chatting with you.
Me, too! Nite all! See you tomorrow, probably (virtually, anyway)!
This has been one of the most entertaining LLNFDLers ever. Can’t wait to find out what the folks behind the membrane thought of it all….
Not that I have any delusions, but some sort of timestretching ability would be amazing in my opinion. I’d not mind 300 years of study and learning to my current defined, yet uncertain lifespan. I’ve just had a drought of peers willing to invest the time into thought, but much of that has to do with financial stress and continuing the current status of society.
We won’t hit the procreation sweet spot for eons, its too much of an enjoyable animal trait to participate in.
Night Suzanne!
Good points, all!
I had to return to post my snarky comment below:
Rebels say Gaddafi halts oil, Libya blames Britain
Apparently, Gaddafi is a Republican.
One more. This is the night that keeps on giving.
Q&A: What are points of caution in consuming contaminated fish?
A. Don’t eat it!
drove by late tonight, screeched to a halt on The Imperial Rooster and ended up here all night with my feet up reading the whole thread and the jukebox filled up going on and on. Loved all the homegrown music and stories, reminded me of so many people and circumstance.
oop! time to go,
cya around
O/
hey ks — sorry we missed ya — glad you enjoyed the imperial rooster