The Bush Doctrine, as defined by Wikipedia:
The Bush Doctrine is a phrase used to describe various related foreign policy principles of former United States president George W. Bush. The phrase was first used by Charles Krauthammer in June 2001 [1] to describe the Bush Administration’s unilateral withdrawals from the ABM treaty and the Kyoto Protocol. The phrase initially described the policy that the United States had the right to secure itself against countries that harbor or give aid to terrorist groups, which was used to justify the 2001 invasion of Afghanistan.[2]
The Real Bush Doctrine, of course, is the principle that once you are in power, you don’t actually have to give a tinker’s damn about what the public wants.
Bush was unpopular for years. In polls and in the streets, people said they thought he sucked, and his war sucked, and his ass face sucked, and lots of them went marching to tell him so over and over. And he sat in his big white house, and he held his parties, and he didn’t give a damn.
Because he didn’t have to.
See, we had this silly idea, didn’t we, that if enough of America turned on the president, that he’d have to listen? That if his poll numbers tanked enough, he’d somehow feel pressure to change his ways, to be more moderate, to “reach out” and touch the souls of his opponents or something?
Isn’t that what we hear now, about how divided our country is, how much Obama needs to keep in mind the 30 percent of people who will hate him no matter what, and try to make them feel loved? That public opinion conveys some sort of imperative to act, or change one’s actions, in order to respond to or placate one’s critics.
Yeah, Bush just said screw that, I’mma do what I wanna anyway, because they can’t do anything to me. They can march and yell and tell pollsters how much I suck, but here I am in my chair the next morning.
It has its roots in Nixonian redefinitions of the law to mean “anything I feel like doing,” but Bush perfected it, and Scott Walker, in Wisconsin, quite clearly took a lesson.
People by the tens of thousands came to his door and told him they thought his budget was a cynical abomination, and he shrugged. Editorials denounced him (with varying degrees of politeness), a member of his own party deserted him, national Republicans threw up their hands and said no, man, we’ve never even MET that dude, and not only did he “stay the course,” he thew some more coal on the fire.
When his actions were challenged in court on Friday, his legal team even trotted out the defense that the Wisconsin courts lacked jurisdiction to enforce Wisconsin open meetings law.
I hope George W., somewhere, is noticing how well his mini-me is doing. I hope he’s proud.
The real difference in Wisconsin is that Democrats, in power and out, aren’t willing to let that stand. While Congressional Democrats at first fought to see who could snuggle Bush more lovingly and then tried to oppose him but not, like, in a hippie way, Democrats in Wisconsin have thrown their lot in with the 70 percent of people in their state who think Walker’s ideas blow.
And recall elections may prove that governors, unlike presidents, can’t simply create their own reality and then refuse to leave it.
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Once again, it comes down to what the people who actually vote want, versus the public at large. Voters will win that battle every time, as they should. People who can’t be bothered to vote get the government they deserve. Bush managed to get just enough votes to get himself ensconced in 2000, and again in 2004. Walker got himself elected, it remains to be seen whether enough people care to vote him out or even get a recall on the ballot. I guess the April 5th election will give us an indication, if Prosser loses.
Truly, who or what is to stop them? We used to think polls would balance things out, but…
Alison!
You also have the advantage in Wisconsin of being able to recall politicians who give the public the finger.
The people, Newton, the people.
I’d be surprised if Walker is not brought down before the recall period passes.
My guess is that there are a LOT of folks digging into his life and they WILL find something. He will resign at the behest of his party.
It will be for ‘family’ or ‘personal reasons, but he’s an anchor to the GOP, one they can’t afford. N the GOP knows it.
6 months, my guess
Nice read ma’am, btw, thanks!
It’s really more pernicious than that. The right has convinced its base and now the broader voter base; that once elected the President or Governor etc do not need to consult the electorate ie that being elected means you get to do what you want to and are not committed to the wishes of the constituents.
It undoes democracy and diminishes our elections to nothing more than they are in any totalitarian nation.
I’m beginning to think that some politicians are jerks.
Some??!
I’m sure he’s jerking off in joy over it.
Fair enough.
When 43 got ‘reelected’, the people didn’t count for much. The people, or enough of them anyway, bought the “John Kerry is not a war hero, he’s a war criminal‘ line.
Wisconsin is a very different laboratory environment than the entire nation… which is not to say that the nation won’t learn the lessons of Wisconsin.
Not since black box voting machines and CU SCOTUS decision. But perhaps you were unaware of those.
‘Sfunny, the way this post started out, I thought it was going to be about Obama.
Ironically, I myself can’t write a post about Republicans without someone pointing out that most if not all of it applies to Obama and the Democrats as well – so I guess I’m just spreading the love.
The sad bottom line is that most elected officials have pretty much zero accountability to the little people who voted for them anymore, if indeed they ever did. Although the WI (and IN) state senators deserve some serious kudos.
…and, needless to say, it shows.
Even Shorter Bush Doctrine.
It’s kind of hard to blame the public at large for being apathetic in 2010.
The country was tired of the wars, and voiced that opinion LOUDLY by going to vote in 2006. Bush responded by giving the public the finger and instead “surged,” putting more troops into Iraq.
So, the country in 2008 said OK, we’ll get rid of the R President too. And then this President, from a different party, basically gave the public the finger and broke his campaign promise to be out of Iraq by 2009.
It’s hard to blame the public for being apathetic when they go to the polls and vote and send a very clear message only to find the assholes they elected in some cases ignoring the message and in others actually acting opposite the message.
I’m NOT advocting people stop voting, merely pointing out that I understand why they could be apathetic. In 2008 the public not only gave the message to end the wars, they voted overwhelimingly for the guy that said he was going to reform health care, bring the rule of law back to Washington, and once again make America liked around the world. To which he sold out health care, has now made no rule of law the default position for elites, and sending a big middle finger to the rest of the world by winning a Nobel Peace Prize and then sending in more drones into Pakistan than Bush did in his whole term (I think).
Yep, I can understand why voters might be apathetic.
You’re old enough to remember when there was some nodding acquaintance bet what base wanted & what elected officials did. Only with Clinton did that change dramatically, and since the economy did so well during his regime, few (including me) recognized it until W.
Then there was CU….
Yeppers.
It is completely rational for people not to vote when they understand that their vote doesn’t matter.
*he said, smiling sweetly.*
Recalls are a great place to start…well we have to start SOMEwhere ;)
In which other states are recalls of goopers and their Democratic enablers possible? The focus has been on Wisconsin, but this fire can spread…
We’re doing something wrong: no one is afraid of us.
The only one people are afraid of is people who have power over them, which these days means $$$$. So we’re not doing anything wrong. We just don’t have the money.
We’re doing something wrong: no one is afraid of us.
We are too nice, we are sane, and we don’t have scads of money.
The Republicans fear the teabaggers at least a bit. Helps if you are highly motivated, extremely loud and vocal, and totally batshit crazy.
I dispute your hypothesis that the Rs fear the TPers.
The Rs fear the Koch’s money.
If trends mean what I think they mean, one of the Bush twin daughters will be the first woman POTUS. Her sister will be her VPOTUS.
Some are batshit crazy without needing the teabaggers such as Bachmann in Minnesota and King in Iowa to name few.
Calling it an early night. Take care all.
True. Plenty of crazy to go around on the right.
The recent conduct of Senators Hatch and Lugar strongly suggests GOP pols are frightened of the teabaggers.
Gnite DrD.
Crazy, yes. But with unrelenting, fantastic messaging.
That messaging advantage, whether you chock it up to the advantage of Fox news, or the blizzard of chaff they throw out from all corners and in all directions, is important.
Wow! Just watched the film abut the Triangle fire. Very powerful. Why do people always seem to need an example of slaughter before taking such complaints seriously?
Interesting. One of the things I’ve seen on the right (and left) is “who have power to hurt you?” Are they happy? Is so keep going.
The rich funders had the power to hurt him, they were happy.
The courts were shut up.
The press was watered down.
They was nobody “over” they who hadn’t been bought off or propagandized away.
When I looked at how to hurt the Radio station K S F O and the hosts I looked at whose opinion they cared about. The advertisers who were the money people. If they weren’t happy they will force people to change or get rid of them.
It worked. Two hosts fires millions on revenue lost, behavior changed.
We often look at what makes us unhappy as if that mattered. We need to look At what makes the PTB unhappy.
So, for example when it comes time for quarterly earnings go to the corporations funding Scott Walker and ask, “as shareholders we feel spending money on the Chamber of commerce and Scott Walker campaigns are not things that will show a return on investment. We want you to stop and invest in other things.”
This will force them to admit they are spending the money on a loser and admit that theROI of most Politicians is better than walker. In a post Citizens Untited the issue isn’t Can they spend the money, but should they. As stockholders we can ask that question.
You know what makes that twice as funny? The ‘baggers are fading faster than they arrived.
Japan is getting an unfortunate lesson now with the reactors out of control. Don’t trust the bosses.
And for some stupid reason, we can never seem to just learn that fucking lesson once and for all! One good thing about it: CPS Energy stopped toying with buying in on the South Texas Nuclear Project.
I was initially going to respond that people have trouble forecasting. But I reconsidered bc I think Triangle had quite a diff origin, which is in authoritarianism. If the bosses say it is OK then they get the benefit of the doubt. No matter how badly they treat us, we conform with little resistance.
I would be happy to send you some Arizona Republicans, they are crazier than frat boys on a Friday night. They probably won’t get as worked up with Canadians crossing the border as they do with Mexicans.
The teabaggers are big into that. Tablescraps will keep them happy.
As long as they can convince themselves that dirty fucking hippies and brown people are getting fewer scraps.
They want politicians like Walker to make sure of that. They want someone lower on the pecking order than they are so they that feel bigger.
Virus can spread, hoss, all it takes in this case is fewer jobs and more ‘disgruntled’ people.
*G*
I love the smell of WI Jasmine.
My bete noir is crazy Jews.
I’ve mentioned many times before about how many Jewish acquaintances I’ve lost over Israel.
The most recent one was several years ago. An otherwise sensible, intelligent woman, my son’s HS APUSH teacher, with whom I was in touch with email forever. She sent an email when Israel invaded Lebanon in 2006. I responded that I despised Israel and she should never send me another piece of Israeli propaganda. That was that.
Last Tgiving, I was at my Jewish sil’s. One of the dinner guests was ‘boyfriend’ (50-something) of a friend of divorced niece, who late into our cups announced that there were actually (enter threatening music cue) places in teh U.S. where Sharia law was being instated. I told him that was absolutely crazy. We agreed to exchange email defenses, which never happened.
But it does tell you that teh crazy is not confined to TPers.
(hooks it into the next fairway)
Yep. Spot on. They aren’t so miserable when they can feel that they are superior to other people. But I guess if they didn’t think like that, they wouldn’t be influenced by the teabagger siren song.
BRAIN BLEACH STAT!
Larue! I haven’t seen you for ages!
Suggested edits.
Have you ever noticed that after an extremely contentious thread, like the one that occurred early this afternoon over the Lybian incursion, that this blog drifts for a day or so?
Their messaging is not all that . . . they are fully and completely vetted and empowered by the corporate fascist state . . . said state also vets DC BEltway Faux Proggies.
It’s not the messaging, it’s the complete and utter dominance and control of all aspects of our country, government, military and the masses which enables said messaging.
It’s not messaging it’s contrived propaganda. IMHO.
Well I missed that, as I can’t read at work. Which thread?
*†ips hat*
How ya doin with the toofs n such?
Good One!!
There were two or more contentious threads about Libya before today.
But what do you mean drift?
http://news.firedoglake.com/2011/03/21/as-coalition-prepares-for-longer-war-in-libya-administration-defends-authority-to-strike/
Hiya Larue! OFGS I’ve had such a horrible sinus infection that I can’t get to the endodondist for the rest of the root canal procedure. I’ve canceled all the appts. in March. Please, I have to feel well again.
Wasn’t that amazing? I think I cried when I watched it a few weeks ago.
Why do innocents need to die? Good damn question.
Profit uber alles. Sicut erat in principio, et nunc, et semper.
A lack of focus and energy.
Seems to have been ready made…
Oy! I think that I will read the comments tomorrow. Many thanks.
The other problem with Triangle is that the bosses were informed/rescued, but made no effort to go into their “shop” and warn their workers.
IGMFY to the nth degree. And evil to boot.
I’m pretty sure EVERYONE else in the Asch building at the time got out–except the seamstresses and the male foremen.
Well, you know, a poverty-level job is better than none at all!
So don’t rock the boat, eh?!
I wish the baggers would fade away here but in Arizona we aren’t so lucky. Take Senate President Russell Pearce (Please take him someone!), he says the States are in charge of everything!
TheLurkingMod’s mine. Two or three spring full moons ago I posted for the first or second time to FDL, I replied to someone who mocked Joe Lieberman. I said something to the effect that Joe’s probably just had too much hamentashen today. Up jumps Lurkie and tells me Whoa, your comment is pending; then after learning about hamentashen (I presumed), said, and I quote, Okay, we cool.
Wouldn’t be a bit surprised. I don’t know the labor movement history but do know enuf to recognize where the power lies & how far they will go preserve it.
Oh fuck, that’s is awful. Fuck.
Well, my evidence seems to have survived, so take it for what it’s worth.
Along the lines of halitosis is better than no breath at all.
You think so? Well maybe but I don’t see why we can’t disagree and vehemently from time to time. I stopped holding grudges shortly after Jr High School.
Yep, I saw that. I didn’t mean to imply that teabaggers were gone. I think in this case there is a lot of overlap between teabaggery and douchebaggery though.
another thing Boooosh didnt have to do
The Lost Satellite
Nearly a decade ago, NASA built an Earth-monitoring satellite that could have observed global warming in action. Then the agency stashed it in a warehouse in Maryland, where it remains to this day.
By Bill Donahue
Posted 03.10.2011 at 1:26 pm
It all began so hopefully. Al Gore proposed the satellite in 1998, at the National Innovation Summit at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. Gazing skyward from the podium, the vice president described a spacecraft that would travel a full million miles from Earth to a gravity-neutral spot known as the L1 Lagrangian point, where it would remain fixed in place, facing the sunlit half of our planet. It would stream back to NASA video of our spherical home, and the footage would be broadcast continuously over the Web.
Not only would the satellite provide “a clearer view of our world,” Gore promised, but it would also offer “tremendous scientific value” by carrying into space two instruments built to study climate change: EPIC, a polychromatic imaging camera made to measure cloud reflectivity and atmospheric levels of aerosols, ozone and water vapor; and NISTAR, a radiometer. NISTAR was especially important: Out in deep space, it would do something that scientists are still unable to do today directly and continuously monitor the Earth’s albedo, or the amount of solar energy that our planet reflects into space versus the amount it absorbs.
And…
But in 2001, just a few months after the inauguration of George W. Bush, Triana’s launch plan was quietly put on hold. “We were preparing to transport it to the launch site when we heard,” Rosanova says. Instead, they wheeled the $100-million satellite into storage.
The mission entered a state of bureaucratic limbo. Around 2003, NASA renamed Triana the Deep Space Climate Observatory, or DSCOVR, but the satellite remained on the ground. During the Bush administration, it became politically vulnerable, largely because of its association with Gore. Dick Armey, then a Republican congressman from Texas, said of the satellite, “This idea supposedly came from a dream. Well, I once dreamed I caught a 10-foot bass. But I didn’t call up the Fish and Wildlife Service and ask them to spend $30 million to make sure it happened.” Despite the protests of independent scientists (including Paul Crutzen, an atmospheric chemist and Nobel Laureate who wrote in a 2006 letter that “it would be a major waste of scientific effort and opportunity to discard such a meaningful mission”), NASA delayed the launch indefinitely.
And…
It has never become entirely clear why the satellite had ended up here. In his 2009 book Our Choice, Gore wrote, “The Bush Cheney administration canceled the launch within days of taking office on January 20, 2001, and forced NASA to put the satellite into storage.” Warren Wiscombe, a senior physical scientist at NASA, blames a Bush-era “hostility” to earth science at NASA. “As to who ordered the axing of the mission,” he says, “we’ll never know, but the word we got was that Dick Cheney was behind it.”
Much More: http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2011-03/lost-s…
Dennis Kucinich. Disagreeing with the POTUS. Making the rounds: ON RUSSIA TODAY RT! That’s where we get our news now (no cable): DemocracyNow/KPFA on the radio, Al Jazeera English, NHK English, DW TV on VHS.
Did catch Katie Couric tonite, after a commercial for more pills, move from behind the desk to sit on a stuffed easy chair to shoot the breeze with the new Charles Kuralt guy. (Walter Cronkite must be spinning in his grave.)
On Sunday (thanks for watching Jason Linkins) caught a glimpse of Paul Wolfowitz on some newstalkie show. OMG. Shoot me now!
I don’t think it is about holding grudges.
I think a lot of energy is spent and folks just lay low and recharge.
What made this thread interesting was that the argument was between regulars as opposed to regulars wrangling with trolls.
Both sides had their moments.
OT2.0: When Jack Paar asked Oscar (“I knew Doris Day before she was a virgin”) Levant what he thought about the news that Milton Berle had become a Christian Scientist, Levant said, “Our loss is their loss”.
Maybe you’re right. I was involved in that fuss or one of them anyway. But if I stopped being a passionate person, I wouldn’t be who I am. :)
Dang, my deepest sympathies . . . rain and pour it seems.
I recall one year where my brother had a sinus infection for a LONG time.
Came and went, came and went.
He was stubborn, refused anti biotics till his old lady kicked his ass!
*G*
Got better in a month . . they CAN be brutal.
The other “interesting feature” will be the element of time.
The longer the US involvement in the NFZ, the less credible the Cruise Missile Liberal™ arguments become.
Time is the arbiter on this issue.
Hmm, interesting observation . . lively today, I must say.
N there’s TONS of news to deal with . . . maybe fatigue?
CTuttle is upstairs!
Late, Late Night FDL: Bad Day
See Ya!
Yes!
I wish WikiLeaks would publish some of FDL’s contentious political blogs & comments. Then the right and best people would get noticed.
nightio pups.
nightio Margaret
Sorry Alison if this comes across as nit-picky, but let’s leave the 3rd grade name calling to the professional tv pundits and the school yard. I don’t read FDL for dry analysis only, but “ass-face” does not add insight or humour. Continue down this path and you end up with “Your momma..” jokes in your articles. Stay classy
Is that a call for civility?
Tommy
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In your circles, I guess he sucked..but not in mine. We miss him terribly!!!
Well gee Mr Koch, of course you miss Bush. Though to be honest, Obama has done nearly as much for you as Bush did
There`s a technical term for this. It’s called plebiscitary democracy. It was invented by Napoleon after his coupd d’etat. Just like what happened here in December, 2000.
plebiscitary democracyA : referendum (also known as a plebiscite or a ballot question) is a direct vote in which an entire electorate is asked to either accept or reject a particular proposal. This may result in the adoption of a new constitution, a constitutional amendment, a law, the recall of an elected official or simply a specific government policy. It is a form of direct democracy. The measure put to a vote is known in the U.S. as a ballot proposition or measure.
Which is what you, the left, are always espousing. So, now that you are getting what you have always wanted, why are you still whining?
Gee I missed the plebiscite on starting another war in Libya.