Surprisingly, the Goopers didn’t suggest hiring foreign mercenaries to shoot down illeguls.

Good Morning, Ruth
Really. It’s almost scary to wonder what they’ll think up next, isn’t it?

If the business of the US Department of Defense is defense, against what enemy is HAARP defending against?

The NRA would not approve of depriving a member of that particular opportunity.

Good morning BT and Ruth,
Ruth, you are being optimistic. :) I would not put anything past them and the thought that Scott Walker even thought about sending provocateurs (sp) into the crowd at Madison should scare the daylights out of all of us who respect worker’s rights.

Notice Bradley Manning the lead story on the AJ home page.

Good morning everyone.
Ruth was the only commenter when I started typing my message and I post it and all of you are on the thread.
demi, did you get into the garden stuff yesterday? I so envy your warm weather right now. I have the car warming up to get the frost off the windshield.

I believe it’s already been recorded where he admitted he had considered the provocateur thing.

Funny that all of you responding to the suggestion of mercenaries tho’t that was just a basic, our wingnuts would go further. What we resemble, outraged Massachusetts patriots?

Morning ghost,
What a jerk, but I have been following the effort to recall and it seems to be going really well.
Darn, gotta go to work and here all I want to do is stay on the thread visiting with the community.
Have a great day everyone

Looks like the recall effort is near the halfway point already.

Yes, I did. Got the veggies in and planted some strawberries and maryigolds too. It’s really glorious here. Sorry that you’re still dealing with frost and cold. But, spring will come to you too, soon.

Kansas GOP state rep Virgil Peck

“It looks like to me if shooting these immigrating feral hogs works maybe we have found a [solution] to our illegal immigration problem”

Isn’t this what hate speech laws are on the books for? Will Holder’s DOJ investigate? Don’t hold your breath.

From the Guardian’s Japan live blog:

The radiation levels at Fukushima Daiichi are now too high for staff from the Tokyo Electric Power Company, which operates the nuclear power plant, to stay in control rooms there, according to Kyodo news.

Also from the Guardian, the French Nuclear agency has ranked the current situation in Japan:

Japan’s nuclear crisis is equivalent to number six on the INES scale of nuclear accidents, Kyodo news agency has quoted the French Nuclear Agency as saying.

The INES – International Nuclear and Radiological Event Scale – ranks incidents from one to seven, with one described as “anomaly” and seven as “major accident”.

Six is described by INES as “serious accident”. The 1986 Chernobyl disaster is the only incident to have been ranked at seven, while the explosion at Kyshtym, Russia, in 1957, is the only incident ever to be ranked as a six.

INES describes level number six as: “Significant release of radioactive material likely to require implementation of planned countermeasures.”

This is unbelievable. I sincerely hope that this crisis is the final straw for the idea of expanded nuclear power in the United States. Japan is a modern country, and this happened to them. It could happen here…
http://www.sunstateactivist.org”

What to do about GItmo.

Mornin’, BT, pups

Nice to see that P J Crowley’s comments have put Bradley out front on a nation wide basis.

Hey, ghost, get the HAARP link from a super special Alex Jones email alert?

Why hire? I know people who would shoot anything scary and brown just for the entertainment. And they’d provide their own bullets.

But at least the GOPers are finally getting a dose of reality: If you want to stop illegal immigration, you’re going to have to shoot to kill. For anybody else, that would be a show stopper and cause a rethinking of immigration in general. I predict a movement to allow bullets to be tax deductable.

A cynic might also suggest that the GOPers have realized that the major reason for illegal immigration is jobs…which is why they’re busy killing all the jobs they can. No work, no scary brown people.

Boxturtle (I see stupid people. They’re everywhere. They wander around just like us, they don’t even know they’re dumb!)

HAARP and Earthquakes?

Blissful ignorance about HAARP is not an option.

What is the purpose of the antenna array in Alaska?

Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand Presses Administration For Clear Withdrawal Plan From Afghanistan

It’ll be interesting to see how warmonger Obama responds to this.

You tell me.

I asked you first.

I love the vids from the guy who uploaded your link to YouTube.

Doesn’t work that way, ghost. You presented it, you defend it.

I suggest closing the prison(s) posthaste and making the place a recreation facility (if that is now possible given its notoriety). I know from past personal experience that the diving, fishing, and beaches were lovely. Granted that would require holding a certain President who shall remain nameless to his word, no mean task, given that individual’s track record.

I apologize for the weak attempt at levity given the terrible situation in Japan, which has kept me up all night. I really think it is exceedingly dire, much worse than we think.

Oh you missed it SD. Last night ghost was arguing that the earthquake in Nihon was the result of HAARP. His evidence? Because the quake happened on 3/11, the same day that Battle: Los Angeles hit the theaters and the both have similar scenes of devastation…or something. Classic! HAARP shifted the whole island of Honshu about 8 feet to the west. Because of a movie.

I’ve also had that experience at Gitmo. They had an excellent stable with lots of room to ride too. Swimming (snorkeling) with a school of barracuda is a trip.

You mean NORAD? Couldn’t have anything to do with detecting a Soviet attack during the Cold War? Nah… that’s just what they want us to think…..

Good Morning, Margaret
Did you bring your knitting needles this morning. Oh, that right, that’s just for Saturday morning. Only five days left. Woo hoo.

What, you don’t believe in space aliens?

Morning BT & Firepups…

Oh, Jeebus. These people could turn a 6 year old’s birthday party into a conspiracy theory.

Did you really stay up all night? I was worried that I wouldn’t be able to fall asleep, but I did. I can’t imagine how the Japanese are getting any rest, for sure. I hope you can nap during the day. Take care.

Good Morning, SD
Now, that IS funny.

Mornin’, demi.

I saw Bigfoot once…

Good Morning folks

All this political stuff doesn’t matter, we are all totally fucked. The radiation leaking from Fukushima is going to poison the oceans and make the sea life inedible to humans.
And the reports coming out of Japan indicate that the problem is getting worse,it’s only a matter of time before a full scale meltdown occurs. This radiation leaking will reach the west coast of the US and could ruin Cali’s agriculture.

Sorry for the morbid comment,but I think we all have to face the inevitable, we are fucked

I realize this will come as a shock to everyone here, but there is virtually zero actual real news on the TV Box about the nuke situation in Japan. While I understand that not much information is being made available by the Japanese government / nuke corporation, I’m sure there’s much more that could be reported. Wouldn’t want to make people throw up their Cheerios, right?

“GE, we bring good things to life…”

You had to go and give some one that idea. Oh, no.

Engaging with these people reminds me of doing therapy with personality disorders.

The Boston Globe is on the Manning bandwagon this a.m., too.

These people could turn a 6 year old’s birthday party into a conspiracy theory.

Oh but they are! If said six year old is named George or Leonard or Sally and there are thirteen guests and chocolate cake with white frosting is served after pin the tail on the donkey…..

707!!

Well there he is! Call up Glenn Beck. He’ll put you on, for sure! Big foot is funded by George Soros, of course…

You THOUGHT she was 6 years old.

Not so tough to do. The last 6 year old party I attended, the kids spend most of their time conspiring against the adults, with the specific goal of dumping a fully dressed adult into the pool.

Not sure if you’d call it an antenna array, but most of ‘em had cell phones.

Boxturtle (Paranoia is your friend, but you have to keep an eye on it)

Good morning everyone!

I’ll tell ya something. I’m really glad to go to work today. It’s too much of a temptation to watch the news or be online all day when I’m at home. Thank goodness for my garden. A body could go nuts.

They certainly look real small head on and when they turn they surprise you with how long they are. I had a friend who dang near lost a part of his anatomy he was quite fond of due to a shiny buckle on his swim trunks as a Cuda demonstrated the swiftness of its attack! He discarded that pair as soon as practicable upon hitting the beach.

There are DOCTORS for that kind of thing. And apparently they do a booming business but they must get their patient’s asses on the couch through threats of jail or spousal abandonment.

They’ve discovered that the collective can take the little bits of hard data actually released and use it to knock down that larger lies they’re trying to sell. Like claiming the containment is still good while fresh cesium is being detected.

Boxturtle (And remember, there’s no meltdown. Just stay indoors until the iodine passes)

Nah but maybe we can get a thread about some non threatening, very girly topic today. We can hope they’ll want to give us something to do while the adult, (men), are talking.

I read so much of the Japan Nuclear Watch threads that in the night I dreamed about hashtags #Japan and #Tsunami. Don’t ask me why hashtags, since I have never sent a single tweet. Maybe it was my mind’s way of escaping.

Hi, Molly. Are you hanging in there? I’ve been thinking if the radiation starts coming my way that I might have to pay you a visit.

First thing they warned us about was shiny objects. Wanna lose a finger or two, wear rings.

You’re welcome here!

Seriously, I have a sister & brother-in-law in SanFran and a niece and nephew (and his fiancee) in San Diego, so I’m a bit worried. I may have a house full. Of course, when you’re talking about radiation, ain’t that far from California to Indiana. We’re all cooked.

EDIT: not worried that I will have a house full, obviously, but worried that it will be needed.

This is really getting scary but look at the stupid, clueless title:

Japan radiation leaks force 140,000 indoors

I guess they mean those few in the area who still have an indoors to stay in. This is so going to hamper relief and rescue efforts.

Isn’t it interesting how during a crisis our true natures come out? Cave men.

Barracuda and shiny objects. Reminds me of someone.

Saw the PM told folks to do laundry indoors, the version of duct tape for Japan.

There’s fallout all over my neighbors’ roofs – oh, guess that must be frost

That’s how I figure it too. Heaven help us all.

That interactive graphic as a sidebar to BT’s first link (NYT) explains how a reactor shuts down and what happens in a meltdown. Pretty informative.

Don’t be fooled by the reports coming out o Japan, the radiation is already on it’s way.
Better harvest what you can from your garden now, because in a few weeks(or less) your stuff will be inedible

Like staying indoors will stop radioactive particles from getting inside a structure. JHFC

I don’t know their gender, but I do know the comments were obnoxious and demeaning. Lobster apologized. Crickets from bmaz.

It’s a seven. If it is not now, it is just a matter of time.

And is the direct consequence of the nuclear industries policy of shitting on its own doorstep.

Illustrated by no plan to dispose of nuclear waste, other than leaving it for eternity in a pond (which can dry up, then the waste catches fire and kills millions) at a nuclear site.

A classic example of privatize the profits and socialize the losses.

An education in itself, yet it’s not a member of our gender arguing that it’s a man made catastrophe based on the release date of a movie….

Lobster apologized.

Did he? I missed that.

Glad you recall the details….Ghost thought I was not paying enough attention so Ghost reminded me twice….So glad not to be alone.;)

I was very disappointed at that. I’ll have to be a little more circumspect and avoid certain threads around here.

Yep. That smacks of one of those activities they give you to make you feel like you’re doing something useful. Remember duck and cover?

I saw Scarecrow apologize. That is all. I wonder what Jane would have to say. Like I said then, it’s bad timing, right after the fund drive. I’d hate to have to return my membership card.

I’m sorry to so clueless-which is why I suppose you are so angry-but please explain to me why it is you are so upset? I understand you frightened, apprehensive, and confused, as are we all, but I am totally at sea as to why you ladies are so pissed off at all of us!

Which is your whole point, right…

I doubt I’ll forget that anytime soon. It’s a shame because I sorta like ghost but that rant was just too unhinged for me.

Geez ladies.I know sometimes guys are idiots, but have you forgotten about the likes of Sarah Palin,Michelle Bachman, Orly Taitz. These women don’t exactly do your gender proud.

Off to swim in the great capitalist cesspool.

US KIA Afghanistan: 1,502

US KIA Irak: 4,439

Iraki, Afghan and Pakistani casualties: estimates vary to over 1.5M

US MBS 2011: 9,052 and counting

Molly Malone

Be good to yourselves, and all other living things

Namaste

No war but class war

Never. Give. Up.

None of them hang out at firedoglake.

Not angry with all of you. Not even angry, just disappointed. Sorry, didn’t mean to imply that.

Agreed. Not pissed. More like sad and disillusioned.

Those of us who were on the thread yesterday know what happened. Let’s not turn it into something it’s not. Settle down.

Hell, Margaret, I am old enough to remember the drills in elementary school where we went into the hallways and got down on the floor in a little ball with our heads covered by our arms. I suppose this was supposed to protect us from a bomb or something. Would have been late 40s or early 50s.

Things are becoming clearer. Not all of the aforementioned were male incidentally.

we do seem to get alot of obnoxious opinionated jerks here and not all of them are trolls

I’d hate to have to return my membership card.

Yeah, that crossed my mind too after bmaz’ comment I’m ashamed to say.

Man, I must have missed a real dust up. Glad, too.

Would you briefly say what happened? Im clueless after the Teller thing.

It was still going on at my school in the sixties.

Lobster apologized to Reader, I think. All on the same thread, tempers were short and people were getting (to be charitable) abrupt and curt.

No, they weren’t. But the remarks were a bit sexist nonetheless. Essentially “tend to your knitting” comments.

Or do not identify as such.

one of the reasons I haven’t been around much

I noted that it seemed that some of the hosts were being rude and demeaning to some of the commenters. Bmaz told me This is not a janeaustinknitting club. Deal with it. Something like that.

It wasn’t really a dust up. A lot of women were being treated really dismissively last night. When demi pointed it out, bmaz came along and said something to the effect of “This isn’t the Jane Austen Knitting Society. Get over it”.
Very disappointing.

I am sorry to hear that and I definitely agree that it was seriously inappropriate. They desreved to be called on it!

There is no place for that at any time ever here.

Late last week Raven stopped by and posted several caustic comments.

This prompted me to go back 3, 4 and 5 years and read at random several PUAC and other threads.

It was interesting. I would recommend it.

Sounds like a little testosterone overdose.

Maybe more like overcompensation.

I will not sit down. I will not shut up. And, I don’t knit. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

Thanks all, I hate not understanding the references/conversation. Wow, I need to get moving….so tired I seriously overslept.

x2. I used to do needlepoint, though.

I’m off to get ready for work. Keep the faith, pups. And, stay cool.

Maybe some insecurity? I don’t know. Never would have expected it from some of the names that were involved with that behavior, particularly bmaz.

HAARP

1. Based on those antennae it is not microwave (They use mm length antennae, and yagi or parabolic dish antennae). It is HF. The scale is not shown, but based on the construction of the antennae they something in the 5 to 50 m range ( 20 Mhz to 2 Mhz ).
2. Microwaves are line-of-sight, and are not bounced of the Ionosphere.
3. Good luck getting HF to penetrate the earth. Not going to happen. The earth is a reflector (a Faraday Cage) at those frequencies. Ask any Ham radio licensee.

I call bullshit on your stupid conspiracy theory. Please write about a topic on which you can make informed comments.

I did that too, though Kuroneko had apparently been working on me for a while.

Thank yewwwww.

I’m out too. An hour at the gym, a stop at Salvation Army to drop off more stuff, followed by more closet painting.

Everybody try to stay cool. The folks monitoring the Japan stuff had frayed nerves from what they were seeing, reading, and trying to interpret, and I think we should cut them some slack this week.

Not that I liked the comments, but let’s put them in context and stay friendly.

Sounds like a good day….we have such a typical day. Reminds me of school: quite cool in am, will be nicely warm this afternoon; never know what to wear….;) Have a good one.

Morning pups. Jane’s demonstration for Manning yesterday got a notice in the local newspaper via Agence France Presse. His case is getting the kind of international attention it needs to put the heat on the Obama Administration. Thanks to Jane, and everyone else here who is working hard to put this on the front burner.

(*munching cereal*) Nicely warm? Not here yet, but getting regularly into the 40s, which is a sign that spring is coming.

Hey Folks, I gotta go too.
Sorry for the negativity this AM, but this Japan stuff scares the crap outta me.
I’ll just leave it at that and say good bye

Good Bye