As I was scanning the news from the uprising today, CNN was playing Ben Wedeman’s report from Benghazi, Libya and at one point they show the masses and masses gathered a few days ago, all chanting ” Al Sha’ab u’reed isghat al nizam (the people demand the end of the regime).” Wedeman says he does not feel up to the task of describing what he is seeing, that the pictures speak for themselves. And they do. Along with the fear and sorrow and all, the faces glow with an amazing … joy.
I was struck by this again today while looking at a great set of photos which the GorillasGuides team has posted from yesterday’s protests in Iraq – one is shown here, you can view the rest here.
In the midst of so much horror – and the threat of so much more, it just feels important to stop, to pause a moment and look closely at these faces.
Back to the news today.
Libya continues to fight Gadaffi. With each day, a few more towns are won, a few more officials come over to the uprising – and it is a pleasure to hear the Al Jazeera reporters ask them why they never spoke up before. While a small number of western reporters have been allowed inside Tripoli – and Nick Robertson says that their movements are not limited, they are not allowed to leave the city and heavy gunfire is heard throughout their broadcast reports. An Al Jazeera source in Tripoli reports:
10:25pm AJE source says that “security officials were at Tripoli medical centre all day today … the injured did not go in for help”. He estimates that 70 were killed last night alone.
The airbase of Misrata has fallen and ShababLibya (Libyan Youth) point to an amazing video of the funeral for those who died in that fight. They also report that there are rumors that Gadaffi’s loyalists are about to attack and try to retake the town of Zawiya which was liberated two days ago.
The UN continues to debate what actions to take while Obama has finally called for Gadaffi to step down.
In Benghazi meanwhile, an interim government has been set up and efforts are underway to organize a defense against possible attacks by Gadaffi. Al Jazeera provides this photo of the press center which has been established there along with “printing press, newspaper, medical clinics and satellite internet.”
In Iraq, the death toll for yesterday’s protests is at 18 with 140 injured. The Washington Post reports:
Iraqi security forces detained about 300 people, including prominent journalists, artists and lawyers, who took part in nationwide demonstrations Friday, in what some of them described as an operation to intimidate Baghdad intellectuals who hold sway over popular opinion.
On Saturday, four journalists who had been released described being rounded up well after they had left a protest of thousands at Baghdad’s Tahrir Square. They said they were handcuffed, blindfolded, beaten and threatened with execution by soldiers from an army intelligence unit.
“It was like they were dealing with a bunch of al-Qaeda operatives, not a group of journalists,” said Hussam al-Ssairi, a journalist and poet, who described seeing hundreds of protesters in black hoods at the detention facility. “Yesterday was like a test, like a picture of the new democracy in Iraq.”
And yet the Boston Globe tells us that:
But according to US Embassy officials, the Iraqi Army and police appear to have passed this test following years of high-priority training by US military advisers to help them function as a standalone, sovereign force.
In reports from around Iraq today, GorillasGuides Abdus-Samad reports that in Sulimaniya there was a bomb attack on the protesters in the center of the city, killing two and injuring twelve more. Burhan Aydin reports that an additional 5,000 Peshmerga have arrived in Kirkuk, claiming to be there to protect the Kurdish party headquarters but widely believed to be part of the attempt to seize Kirkuk for Kurdistan. Mohamed Ibn Laith reports on Grand Ayatollah Sistani’s representatives remarks yesterdy but unfortunately the google translation is quite hard to follow. Bloomberg provides a summary stating that:
Iraq’s senior Shiite Muslim clerics affirmed the right to peaceful demonstrations as Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki told Iraqis to stay home after five people were reported killed in clashes with security forces.
“Demonstrations on the streets of Iraq are taking place because people are collectively saying that they want to be heard,” Sheikh Ahmed Al-Safi told thousands of Muslims gathered at Imam Hussein Square in the southern city of Karbala today. “The constitution guarantees the right of protests and it is the right of any person to protest peacefully.”
Al-Safi is a spokesman for Grand Ayatollah Ali Al Sistani, Iraq’s top Shiite religious leader.
Azzaman provides a stunning editorial in response to the demonstrations – here’s a sampling but you can read the whole piece here – Iraqis revolt against their ‘liberation’ by the U.S.: (h/t Maryam)
Iraqis are supposed to have been ‘liberated’ by their U.S. occupiers. They are supposed to be enjoying the fruits of their occupation by the world’s most powerful nation. They are supposed to have democracy, unlike other Arab countries whose nations are rising against their dictators.
The U.S., childishly, thought it could bring democracy to Iraq by toppling its dictator who was as worse as the current Libyan despot who has been strafing his own people with helicopter gunships.
How naïve the U.S. was. It thought it could bring its own lackeys and install them as satraps to rule the country democratically…
Iraqis, who think of themselves as the real revolutionaries of the Arab world, are embarrassed and ashamed. They wanted to have the change on their own, the way the Egyptians toppled Mubarak’s presidency.
The U.S. did no good for Iraqis. It has humiliated them in the eyes of the Arab nations. They were the ones to have risen first and toppled their dictator by their own hands.
How glad we the Iraqis would have been if we today, like other Arabs, rose against our dictator and had him toppled.
IraqiRevolutions has videos from across Iraq yesterday – you can view them here.
Finally for now, in Egypt there are several important developments. Following last night’s army attack on protesters in Tahrir Square, the army has apologized but many are not accepting their answer:
The 6th of April movement called for a sit-in in the square starting Saturday as a reaction to the violence, while other activists announced a protest starting Tuesday.
Khalid, along with dozens of protesters, pitched his tent this morning in the square after the army allegedly damaged it last night, vowing to stay until the remaining demands of the revolution are met. “We have a goal and nothing will stop us from reaching it.”
Khalid, who was in the square last night, said the army attacked protesters shortly after midnight, destroying tents and the memorial for the revolution’s martyrs. He adds that soldiers with covered faces attacked protesters with tasers and batons, hitting and insulting male and female protesters alike.
“What we saw was the epitome of humiliation, to be sitting there feeling safe knowing that the army is protecting us only to find them attacking us,” said Khalid. “We were not surprised when the Ministry of Interior treated us that way but we didn’t expect it from the army.”
Mona, a petite teenager who was also there last night, says an army officer electrocuted her with a taser, causing her to faint. She said that after she regained consciousness, army officers proceeded to hit her with batons and step on her while calling her names.
Salma Saeed, an activist who was also present, said that, after destroying their tents, a high-ranking army officer threatened the protesters that if they broke the curfew the next day, live ammunition will be used against them.
An army general has been appointed the new head of Egyptian media – a move Zeinobia discusses:
Speaking about the media I am that not concerned about having an army general supervising on the ERTU but I am rather concerned to the facts that TV shows and TV presenters are being banned from Egyptian TV channels.
Aside from the alarming fact that Mohamed ElBaradei is still persona non grata from Egyptian TV channels , we found out that any criticism to the Ahmed Shafik’s cabinet is not welcomed anymore.
Last Thursday Amr Ellissy hosted on air Ibrahim Eissa who attacked Ahmed Shafik and his cabinet. In its re-run on Friday people were surprised to find that the whole part concerning Ahmed Shafik was cut !! Later we found out that Ahmed Shafik himself interfered and called the CEO of Dream TV 2 on the phone objecting on what Eissa said. Today we found out that Amr Ellissy’s popular show that exposed the poverty in Mubarak’s era has been stopped by orders from above.
El-Lathy spoke with Wael Ghonim on phone and he told him that he did not know that if he would go on air again or not , he also added that there are still those who determine who should go on the air and who should not
With Wael Ghonim saying on twitter after last night’s attack:
@Ghonim Dear Army, what we did was a revolution and not a game. We won’t accept cosmetic changes. This government MUST be fired!
You have to suspect he will not be invited back on TV any time soon.





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A little long … and we haven’t even updated Bahrain, Oman, Yemen …
The world is certainly shaking.
Dammit.
My admiration goes out to the people of Libya. We need more of their anti-authoritarian spirit here.
But but but, Iraq is perfect. It is after all a demockracy instated by U.S. warz.
All snark aside, and not minimizing the casualties in other ME countries, they have all moved a lot closer to real people power with far fewer casualties than if the west had stuck its nose where it doesn’t belong.
Good for them & keeping my fingers crossed that the future, while incredibly difficult, is as good or better than the very recent past.
One of the things that is fascinating is how people in Cairo before Mubarak left and now in Benghazi do a very good job of organizing basic services, local security, etc amongst themselves.
The US had no intention to “bring democracy to Iraq.” The US vice-consul Bremer set up a powerless governing council and it was only through the protests of Ayatollah al-Sistani that elections were held.
BBC:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3033306.stm
Now the US imperialists have their hands full trying to stay in Iraq beyond December 31 — civic unrest will help — while maintaining influence in Libya and Egypt.
And how about that US ally Yemen? Anti-government protests there too, but the US wants Saleh to stay. Good luck on that.
The people in Libya are unbelievable. They are staying and demonstrating with guns firing right at them. Horrible but so courageous. I wish them health and happiness and hope that the good survive.
And Yemen
And this is as heartwarming as Afghanis protesting Israeli treatment of Palestinians:
In Sana’a, about 50 Yemeni protesters demand Libyan ambassador’s resignation.
No matter how bad they’ve got it, they think the others have it worse. Perhaps it lets them focus on externalities as an escape.
Don’t they know about the drone program?
Now Oilbummer sez Kadhafi must leave … How come it’s via Agence France-Presse ? “Obama says Kadhafi must ‘leave now’: White House” (RawStory.Com, Feb. 26th, 2011 — 6:07 pm).
Yes. I find that very interesting and very different from what happens in the Shock Doctrine model. In the SD model, the elites sell out to oligarchs (robber barons) & chaos & bad economy are perpetuated.
In ME, where there is an opening, real people take over & order & economy seem to resume.
Watching this with much interest.
I supported a student scholarship at SUNY-New Paltz who came from Albania via Kosovo, where she served as a translator for a U.S. lawyer who was “helping” them to “modernize” (i.e., completely rewrite in the U.S. model) their legal code.
At one point I had read an article pointing out how the streets of Prestina were filled with garbage while unemployment was 40%. I asked her why the unemployed were not at least out in the streets cleaning them up. She’s a very smart, savvy, hard working young woman, but she looked at me like my Q came from Mars.
Self-organization never seemed to have entered the mind-set of people whose ‘independence’ was created by powerful outside force.
Quite a lesson.
It certainly is.
And while it’s a bit OT, I’m thinking that since the GorillasGuides/Nur Hussein Ghazali has a hiatus tomorrow, I think I would volunteer a post.
I can’t do one about Islam, but I can do one about a very basic primer for Arabic. Might be a good place holder. Because after all, one thing that’s true is that the Arabic speaking world needs understanding, and we Westerners have barely any as regards Arabic language.
What stuns me is that both Ali Sistani and Muqtada al-Sadr had asked the Shia to abstain from the ‘day of rage’…
Iraq’s Top Shiite Leaders Urge Delay of Protests
Interesting would be if the Iraqis had a little democracy demo and demanded that the USA get the eff out of there.
Kelly – that would be great!
CT – Sadr wanted a referendum to measure conditions and support for protests, an interesting idea but clearly not what a lot of people wanted.
I think Sistani’s statement, mentioned above, suggests his position has some “flexibility”
And I’d note that not all Sadrists followed Moqtada on this one.
Many Americans seem to have trouble empathizing with those not “fortunate” enough to be born in the US of A and somehow believe that these “aliens” are basically different and that they ought to like foreigners interfering in their lives. How would Americans like Chinese or Russians re-ordering their lives? — that thought never occurs to them ‘cuz we know best.
That was one of the issues raised at several of the demonstrations acc to reports – and my guess is that we just didn’t hear that part from the others.
Perhaps more people will not “take to the streets” to “express themselves” and the leaders are gonna have to listen up… or as they do in Eqypt… show em the door.
If the demo thing goes viral the lamestream media will have a hard time completely ignoring this after a while. Let’s keep out fingers cross that as the weather warms the people come out in numbers.
eCahn … interesting story -thanks!
I keep thinking about Kim Stanley Robinson’s Mars series as I watch these self-organizing groups … we have so much to learn.
I would look forward to it. Knowing nothing of their language.
Dya think.
I’ve often typed that the diff btw the left and the right on foreign policy is that the bleeding heart lefties think that you should bomb them for humanitarian reasons too.
So I admit I’m looking for evidence to go against intervention from all POV. While trying to keep an open mind about conditions when foreigners can really help.
So far, the case for foreigners, esp U.S., keeping their noses out of everyone elses’ bizness is overwhelming.
In the back of the oligarch mind is the mounting paranoia that these uprisings could very well begin in the U.S.A. More drones should be purchased and ties to mercenary law enforcement corporations should be negotiated and secured for future applications not to mention the construction of more corporate run prisons that double as concentration camps. The insanity is mind boggling. The shock doctrine will allow the mega bank criminals to carpetbag much of the remaining civilian real estate. Enter Chinese investors with real cash and gold, not U.S. funny money printed by the Fed.
From my summary knowledge of what’s happening in the ME, there’s hardly a country which is not caught up in people power. King Faud threw a few billion at his serfs to keep them quiet.
I certainly can see this going viral if real results are manifest. Hard to stop a good thing.
Well it was bound to happen eventually. Internet age communication and technology with medieval theocratic rule. Something was bound to give. I deplore the deaths and injuries though. The problem with despots is they never go quietly.
There was a statement issued yesterday – I have been planning to write about it but haven’t gotten to it yet – that calls for an “Arab led” intervention:
http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2011/02/25/over_200_arab_groups_call_for_libya_no_fly_zone
Interesting.
GG had posted about that referendum…
Their latest english post states that 5000 Peshmerga have been sent to Kirkuk…! An ominous sign…! 8-(
Most were chanting ‘Electricity, Not Corruption’ during the demonstrations…
Tangential– I’m wondering if Ireland will be the first to leave the EU: “First Peaceful European Revolt, As Irish Tsunami Ends 60 Years Of Fianna Fail Rule Following Banker Bailout Fury” (by Tyler Durden on 02/26/2011 20:26 -0500)
More on “Euro Crisis” by Der Spiegel in English.
It all stems from a basic mind set, if you don’t mind my simplification.
You either think people must be in charge of their own destinies or you don’t.
I hate the kind of B&W I just set up. But I don’t see any other way around it.
For example, take Libya. The alternatives to me seems to be thousands of deaths & many more casualties if foreigners don’t intervene, vs. ten or a hundred times that many if foreigners DO intervene.
I await enlightenment from those whose experience is much greater than I know of so far.
Yep – I mention that above …
You might try some of the links since I link in google translate so you can read the arabic posts … some translate more easily than others.
Iraq is a great example of what happens when you sell public utilities to the lowest bidder. The Randroids wanted a model in which to show off the utility of the libertarian philosophy. Well world, there it is.
Yes, Ireland vote consequences will be verrrry interesting.
Nato is considering it…
NATO Meets As Rumors Spread of Possible Military Intervention in Libya
Nodding … I want “someone to DO something” but also know that whatever is done is likely to be a mess … if it comes from outside.
I do take seriously the calls from inside Libya for some form of no fly zone and I’m disgusted that Washington et al have been so late in calling for an arms blockade and freeze on Gadaffi’s funds.
Oh kewl…! Silly me, I should try that with some of my arabic linkies…! ;-)
That’s a disaster …
though it was supported by a number of criminals yesterday including all your favorite neocons
Off topic but absolutely delicious:
Speculate for me – I’m trying to figure out what the outcome would be if NATO goes in.
Few big guys face the bar of justice… they get a pass in the end.
and speculate how much this “NATO” concern relates to the threat to oil supplies for EU and price here?
Locally the prices are already going up. I agree that the main concern is not lives but oil.
I’m aware. I was born in the morning but it wasn’t yesterday morning. Still, I hoped that the readers could just accept the link in the spirit in which it was given.
A complete disaster as Siun points out…! 8-(
I saw that the British SAS did extract some British citizens and some rumors that our Seals are similarly situated…! I don’t think it’s a good idea one iota…!
Save the oil! Save the oil! Could it be any more naked?
I suppose that the bully pulpit is the intermediate vision we might both want.
But with O so compromised (Nobel speech: war is peace), that is not within the realm of possibility.
So let’s be practical & look for what actually might work, vs. what we might hope for.
3 cups of tea.
Female genital cutting I posted about on an earlier thread, where long embedded foreigners who actually know situation are able to work with locals to bring about a situation where tribal elders not only refuse to agree with female genital mutilization, but also work with other tribes where husbands usually come from, are brought to a consensus to end the practice.
Very labor intensive and very long to establish. But seems better than all the alternatives.
NeoLib v. NeoCon — One of these lists is DLC and the other PNAC.
• we need to increase defense spending significantly if we are to carry out our global responsibilities today and modernize our armed forces for the future;
• we need to strengthen our ties to democratic allies and to challenge regimes hostile to our interests and values;
• we need to promote the cause of political and economic freedom abroad;
• we need to accept responsibility for America’s unique role in preserving and extending an international order friendly to our security, our prosperity, and our principles.
—————-
* we must marshal all of America’s manifold strengths, starting with our military power but going well beyond it, for the struggle ahead.
* we must rebuild America’s alliances, because democratic solidarity is one of our greatest strategic assets.
* we must champion liberal democracy in deed, not just in rhetoric, because a freer world is a safer world.
*we must renew U.S. leadership in the international economy and rise to the challenge of global competition.
*we must summon from the American people a new spirit of national unity and shared sacrifice.
NATO = US
I think only Gulf War I exceeds that naked brazenness… If Kuwait had no Oil, it would either have been a Saudi province or Iraqi to begin with… GW II, at least wasn’t as brazen, as far as Oil, but, much more devastating (and illegal) in scope…
I don’t think that anybody involved in that little adventure for example help any illusions about that. I heard the folks back home sat in front of their televisions and cheered like it was a football game.
More than anything I could ever imagine, events in the Middle East have exposed America’s imperial string of satrapies. This was known, of course, but always under the radar. I wonder if the opinion-makers might examine the causes and the efficacy of this? A good exercise might be to question every living Secretary of State why they allowed such deals with the devil. Doesn’t really square with American ideals, does it, as ‘the good guys’? Not much to be proud of, I’m afraid.
I am only too familiar with all these talking points from the right and the near-right (i.e. the U.S. Ds).
I think some one from the real left needs to provide talking points from the left for Wash Journal, as trivial as that might be.
Like pointing out that casualties from self-generated demonstrations have been MUCH less than when west intervenes.
But I am dreaming.
I was thanking my lucky stars that my orders for Korea prevented me from being sent to the ‘sandbox’…! ;-)
Thanks for the new word.
Link
That’s one I didn’t know. You win a cookie.
101 days doing a circle in the throat of the Persian Gulf. Working flight deck safety during the day, working airframes during the night. Elbowing reporters and congressional staffers out of the way 24/7. It was a nightmare.
*heh* You should read more of Chris Floyd’s work…
Imperial Sunset: Wave of Awakening Hits American Satrapy
It’s called suborning perjury, if Regan would have lied under oath, a felony for both of them. If she lied to a federal agent, but not under oath, it’s also a felony; Ailes would either be a conspirator or guilty of obstructing justice, another felony, as Lewis Libby knows well. Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.
Those DFH’s sure get around. Heh.
There sure are a lot of ‘em.
Yep, as sfmikey says, a whole string of them.
I never saw the word “koinu” today until you used it. Perfect.
PNACFPI preparing to lower its siphon into Libyan oil. Link.Just imagine, they can take over Libyan oil fields without having to blow up any additional buildings in Manhattan.
They want to kill whenever possible to get what they want…dickless dicks.
Thanks but koinu is Japanese. Sometimes I use kaji koinu which isn’t a perfect translation but you get the gist. :)
*gah* What are these two sh*theads doing in Tel Aviv…
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Ni hau ma.
I know, pup.
They are probably trying to get Israel to liberate the world with their super duper bombing tactics…that ought to work out great for everyone.
I’m smelling some kind of military action in the air.
China evacuates 12,000 from Libya, sends frigate to help
Obama Condemns Libya Amid Stalled Evacuation
Libya is easy pickings for the PNAC gang. The players are the same ones from the 9/11 brouhaha.
UN Security Council unanimously votes for sanctions against Libya. Here’s the funny part.
Hard to tell from the thread. Are people aware that the Security Council has voted 15-0 to impose santions, and voted 15-0 to refer to the ICC?
There has never been a 15-0 vote to refer to the ICC before. Usually the three permanent members who aren’t States Party to the ICC — U.S., Russia, and China, abstain to let referrals pass, so this is very unusual. But this morning there were reports of Qaddafi people firing on the wounded from the backs of ambulances and then hiding the dead from there and from hospitals, and Navi Pillay had already reported mass killings, twice, but with no details, so this must have been why. The charge is crimes against humanity, which means systematic and widespread — in this case targeting civilians deliberately as well as targeting protected objects and persons (medical and religious), and there have been some allegations of genocide (not confirmed).
The resolution called on Qaddafi and all adult members of his family and senior members of his government to stop impeding the access of humanitarian workers and NGOs immediately and stop targeting civilians immediately.
For NGOs, MSF is in and assessing as far as Benghazi, with a mobile operating theater and 2 trucks of supplies. Almost everybody else is still staging at the borders. The UN is already in, and UNHCR and UNWFP are concerned about food and water.
Ah, see, we crossed posts.
This could all have been avoided if someone would have offered Qaddafi and his family sanctuary before the violence got out of hand.
For the Security Council to take action now after it’s too late, it reeks of hypocrisy.
People did offer Qaddafi and family an out. They swore to “live and die in Libya.” Apparently they seem to have sworn to take as many Libyans down with them as possible.
Don’t know about the hypocrisy, but Qaddafi at this point is violating all possible norms. That doesn’t fly no matter what anyone else in the world might be guilty of. It’s just cruel and inhuman. He isn’t done yet, and much of the worst may be yet to come. There’s a military force, siding with the protesters, headed towards Tripoli, about 2000 armed men, due to arrive either tonight or tomorrow.
What would you like the Security Council to do? (serious question, not rhetorical) UNHCR would like nations capable to give humanitarian aid to Tunisia and Egypt at a minimum because of the eruption of refugees. The aid agencies would like access as of yesterday.
I wonder, would Obama apologists consider themselves “government supporters” in the event of a U.S.A. uprising?
wo hen hau
How long until the idiots crawl out of the woodwork and claim GWB catalyzed all these uprisings?
Thanks so much, Siun. It is very helpful to see the chain of progression always with Egypt in the forefront as they continue to struggle for their dearly won revolution and inspire other countries for the long ordeal ahead. For these events to have now reached Iraq is both sobering and inevitable: you cannot help a young chick out of its shell and expect it to be healthy.
Hopefully my native land will never need to have its government overthrown,(who knows these days?) but in allegorical terms, the ongoing aftershocks from five months ago to the recent Christchurch collapse with sad loss of over three hundred lives serve to remind us that it is not simply one great collapse that destroys a regime or a city.
The main EU interest in that region is that whoever will rule the Maghreb states in the future will be at least as cooperative in preventing illegal immigration from Africa to Europe as the old rulers were.
The deluxe EU-dream solution would be that non-kleptrocratic regimes would spread the oil wealth around and thereby building functioning economies, reducing the economic difference between (at least North-)Africa and Europe so that Africans can actually see a future in Africa.
Hi, Siun: I’m replying to “berliner” for reasons I’m about to explain:
While waiting to see how the Madison occupation “plays out” today, I wanted to post and share some links with what to me are two very encouraging and related positive developments:
First, Ken O’Keefe of the organization “Truth, Justice, Peace” has worked tirelessly in Gaza to try to assist people there — especially the children. One of his latest projects is the Samouni Project (http://youtu.be/K85j1CMsckQ) and one cannot help but be emotionally touched by what they have managed to accomplish there — it’s extremely heart-warming. I can honestly state that Ken “lives it” and that he has for quite some time now.
Next, in recognition of Ken’s efforts along with others, I stated that I wanted to “dedicate” the song “Where Do The Children Play” by Yusuf Islam (f.k.a. Cat Stevens) to Ken, especially because I love the way Ken “responded” to this (again, see the TJP video).
Moreover, apparently Yusuf has composed a new song called “My People” which he has posted on Facebook, and which he also noted in his most recent interview was recorded in Berlin very close to where the Wall used to be — and he has called for people to come and sing on Facebook for the chorus part of the song. Talk about your “kewl”!!! I have yet to register on Facebook — I’ll probably end up doing it sometime in the future. But Yusuf’s website is simply http://www.yusufislam.com and/or .org — and meanwhile I can tell y’all about this and celebrate whatever little bit of “positive” can be obtained amongst all the &*^&*^…
Anyway, thanks for your contribution to keeping folks informed, because I know that at times there are media blackouts in the mainstream news.
FYI, we have a very diversified student base at the community college I currently attend, and while I am in attendence, I do what I can here on various levels. Regards…