Or, you can begin to grasp the situation in this from the Guardian:
The pro-government Al-Zahf al-Akhdar newspaper warned that the government would “violently and thunderously respond” to the protests, and said those opposing the regime risked “suicide”.
Protests in Libya have grown increasingly large and met with increasingly violent response. Most of the protests have been in the Eastern part of the country, particularly the second largest city Benghazi and neighboring Al Bayda, where Quadafi is reported to be using mercenaries from other African countries to attack the protesters. Google has a very useful map documenting the locations and details of reported protests and attacks. You can view it here. (h/t egregious)
As one person on twitter noted, “in Libya they’ve skipped the tear gas and batons and gone straight to live fire” and now there are reports (as heard above and elsewhere) that government forces are using anti-aircraft guns on protesters as well.
The Independent includes reports that:
And from the BBC:A Benghazi cleric, Abellah al-Warfali, told al-Jazeera television he had a list of 16 people being buried yesterday, most with bullet wounds. “I saw with my own eyes a tank crushing two people in a car,” he said. “They hadn’t done any harm to anyone.”
Several reports said government-recruited mercenaries were behind the worst violence including sniper attacks and the use of heavy machine guns. A British-based IT consultant, Ahmed Swelim, 26, originally from Benghazi, said relatives told him the situation had reached “critical point”. “People are living in fear since he [Mr Gaddafi] brought in African mercenaries. They are dressing as normal people but doing random killings. They will shoot or cut people’s hands off. The whole city is erupting. People went out to protest peacefully. They want an end to this oppression. The death toll is much higher than reported. There are more than 200 dead. My cousin, a doctor at a main hospital, has seen the bodies. There are more than 1,000 injured.”
A Benghazi resident told the BBC that security forces inside a government compound had fired on protesters with mortars and 14.5mm machine guns – a heavy machine gun typically produced in the former USSR.
They were, he said, machine-gunning cars and people indiscriminately. “A lot [of people] have fallen down today,” he added.
Other witnesses spoke of snipers firing at protesters from rooftops and there were widespread reports of foreign mercenaries from sub-Saharan Africa being brought in to attack protesters.
A doctor told the BBC that situation in the city was “like hell”, saying he had been seeing people with gunshot wounds being carried into his hospital all day.
Multiple reports from Benghazi describe snipers firing on the mourners at Saturday’s funeral procession for the dead from Friday. Numbers of killed and wounded cannot be verified nor can reports that the protesters in response have stormed the military brigades headquarters or military intelligence building (Al Fadil Brigade Building).
Imran Khan, AJE web reporter on Saturday quoted sources as saying “In Benghazi men are crying saying there is no room left in the hospital.”
With a total media crackdown in Libya, it is difficult for verified reports to get out but a website run outside Libya in support of the demonstrators is collecting the videos and reports – Libya February 17th and is providing translations of calls from inside Libya via audioboo. One reports that doctors are being attacked by government forces in Benghazi:Protests have spread across Libya with reports on AJE of clashes and protesters shot by government forces with live ammunition in Nalut and even reports of demonstrations in Tripoli. On twitter:
@LibyanThinker
Many dead and wounded in #Fashloom in Tripoli. My OWN grandma is taking people in. Her house is a make shift hospital now. #Libya
Reuters has reported that:
The bloody crackdown prompted about 50 Libyan Muslim religious leaders to issue an appeal, sent to Reuters, for the security forces, as Muslims, to stop the killing.
“This is an urgent appeal from religious scholars (faqihs and Sufi sheikhs), intellectuals, and clan elders from Tripoli, Bani Walid, Zintan, Jadu, Msalata, Misrata, Zawiah, and other towns and villages of the western area,” said the appeal.
“We appeal to every Muslim, within the regime or assisting it in any way, to recognize that the killing of innocent human beings is forbidden by our Creator and by His beloved Prophet of Compassion (peace be upon him)… Do NOT kill your brothers and sisters. STOP the massacre NOW!”
In Bahrain, after the Crown Prince ordered military and security forces to withdraw, protesters quickly advanced on the Pearl Roundabout and immediately re-established their tent city and encampment. The opposition Wafeq party has agreed to enter a dialogue about reform but at the same time the labor unions have called for an indefinite strike to both protest the killings over the past week and insist on actual reform.
… Though they have resumed camping out in the square, political tension remains acute and the threat of further security crackdowns looms.
…Isa Al-Qubaiti, a middle-aged math instructor, said, “It feels like we won the first round. But there will be rounds 2, 3, and 4 afterward.”
He continued, “We do not trust the government. We want a new constitution, real democracy, and our missing protesters freed”.
The Guardian reports:
“The government is listening to us now,” said Mohammed Najib. “Not because they like us, but because we are in a strong position. The world is watching us and international opinion matters.”
… Perhaps more alarming for the 200-year-old dynasty is that demonstrators are no longer making a distinction between the ruling family and the government during their calls for reform. “Down, down with the Khalifas,” they shouted in English as they teemed towards Pearl roundabout. “The regime must fall, they will kill us all,” doctors and nurses chanted in the grounds of the Salmaniya hospital that had been the focal point of the revolt…
“We will not stop at regaining a piece of land,” said Bassema Mousawi, draped in a banner that read in Arabic: Bahrain is me and I am Bahrain. “They cannot buy us off and they cannot appease us. Real change is what we demand. Nothing less.”
Other countries to watch on Sunday are Morocco today where Al Jazeera reports “a group of young Moroccans that calls itself the “February 20 Movement for Change” has called for nationwide protests, “A Day of Dignity” on Sunday to push for constitutional reforms that would reduce King Mohammed’s powers and make the justice system more independent.”
Protest continue in Algeria, Yemen and were seen in Kuwait on Saturday. New demonstrations have been called for Iran and we’re continuing to see demonstrations like those today in Iraq.
Avaaz is trying to get “secure satellite modems and phones, tiny video cameras, and portable radio transmitters, plus expert support teams on the ground” – you can learn how to help with small donations here.



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Siun, did you notice the sudden appearance of Al Kiiiiiiiduh suddenly? They, like the US gov’t, don’t want democracy. Imagine that. I laughed my ass off at the supposed new message. One would think the CIA would figure out that the world has caught onto their BS.
Is it just antithetical to despotism to read and understand history? Despots almost always cause their own downfall by creating the people who will stop at nothing to bring it about. I take it back. The King of Jordan seems to understand that but I’m not sure even he can hang on in these times.
Thank you Siun for not making me rely on the corporate media to be informed.
But Libya has gotten smart. They’ve brought in foreigners, who will have no problam killing for a steady salary. By the time they lost the rank and file of the army (Maybe already happened?), there will be enough merc’s in position to make the outcome in doubt. I don’t think the government here will lose the officers corp or the elite units.
In short, if Libya decides to massacre it’s own people, the government will win. Ain’t NOBODY going to support the protesters with anything stronger than words.
Boxturtle (You’d think we could at least scare up a sternly worded letter)
I’ve noticed that also, wonder if it’s a genetic mutation? Rumors say there are uprisings in Tripoli, if true I think Quadafi is in big trouble
Why doesn’t Libya do like the US? Label them terrorists and/or insurgents, and nobody anywhere will say a damn thing. Or use drones! That works in Pakistan, and nobody in the media says much about it at all, except in passing.
The problem is: Who pays the mercs if there’s no civil society left?
Ah, but that only works if you’re a dictator they like.
If Qaddafi’s like Mubarak, he’s got billions stashed away.
If the Libyan rank and file desert I wouldn’t count on the merc’s saving Quadafi. No one likes a stranger butting into a family fight.
Assume Gadaffi has only squirreled away a billion. At a dollar a day, 30K mercs costs less than a million a month. Meaning he could fight for about 1000 months or a hundred years.
How many days would it take for 30K mercs to kill everyone who dared to stand up to them? Well, the population of Libya about 6M so if each merc kills 5 people a day that would take about a month is they killed everyone.
Boxturtle (Math is not your freind when guns and money are against you)
I am so saddened to hear of the death of the protesters in the brutal crackdown. We are with you. The whole world is watching. The government violence demonstrates that those governments are at their core illegitimate. They do not reflect the interests of their populations and continue to rule only by repression.
Depends on how many and how well paid. The Libyan people won’t like the Mercs in any case, but they have the guns and armor.
Gadaffi CAN win this (barring Foreign military intervention), but he has to be willing to pay the price.
Boxturtle (Gadaffi is smart. He might take a golden parachute and relocate)
I agree Quadafi can win at a huge price. But if enough rank & file desert with their weapons it could be a bloody civil war.
According to Bill Maher the Muslims countries are not ready for democracy. They have to learn to treat their women well first. He needs to take some time off to learn about history and what is going on outside US Continent.
http://www.rawstory.com/rawreplay/2011/02/bill-maher-heckled-during-talk-on-women-in-muslim-world/
Yep. He could bring in mercs and blame it on the US. When Raygun bombed him, he had no problem staying in power.
79% of Libya’s oil is sold to Europe. I hope they have the “Nuremberg Principles” to stop this murderer and tyrant.
So many brave and peaceful demonstrators are a blessing upon all Muslims and a credit to the purity of their faith. I have read an Islamic saying that God made the deserts so that he would have a place to go and be alone with himself. These people have found God, and all they want is to be treated with dignity and honor.
Let no one any longer say that Islam is a terrorist religion. We shall shout down such lies: Tunisia! Egypt! Yemen! Libya! Bahrain! Just look at what these people are doing! How many Christians would be prepared to do the same? Not in the name of their religion, but in common cause with any who are oppressed by those who have lost touch with humanity.
Clearly you are not their father, Kadaffi. God is their father and he is not yours while you stain the desert with the blood of your own people.
Peaceful protests don’t always work. Even in Egypt, the military still rules and we won’t know for awhile if they legitimately address the demands of the protesters or pretend to be on their side but retain the status quo. They receive a lot of money from the US.
The important result of protests is illuminating that many people are in agreement that they want real change and how oppressive most governments truly are. How many people will Gadaffi kill to retain his power? People have to work together in more strategic ways from there. Then there are countries like China who clamped down to prevent “Jasmine Revolution” protests from occurring at all.
Indifference, aside from “strong words”, from the US and other countries towards protests is approval of the governments. When it is in their interest, they’ll actively work behind the scenes to try to help protests (or try to make sure pro-US groups lead), like in Iran.
And from everything I’ve read Quadafi had nothing to do with the German discotheque bombing(likely Iranian/Hezbola for Raygun bombing Lebanon) that Raygun used to justify his bombing of Libya, which is why Quadafi gave us the Lockerbie bombing. o the web we weave
Beautifully said.
Good Morning and bless you Siun for that Avaaz link – so many of us feeling helpless following the Libya tweets – sharing
Avaaz does good work – and getting people means to get word out is so critical. I hope this effort gets a lot of support. Thank you for sharing it!
No autocrat can prevail when the people stand united against them and everyone is willing to die, if necessary to get rid of the autocrat. If the autocrat has to slaughter millions to prevent being deposed, there won’t be anyone left to exploit. The parasite dies when it kills the host.
Mercenaries may not mind killing Libyans, but Libyans in the military will only tolerate so much fiendish behavior before they step in and say enough is enough.
Sooner or later Qadaffi will fall. If not today, then tomorrow. If not tomorrow, then next week. If not next week, then the week after. The same is true of all the autocrats in the Middle East and the rest of the world. Their days are numbered and there isn’t anything Barack Obama, Hilary Clinton, Robert Gates, the U.S. military, and the neoliberal kleptocrats they serve can do to stop the building tsunami for freedom and democracy. They have all gotten caught backing the indefensible that is about to be swept away by the unstoppable desire for change.
Our time to stand up in the streets and be counted is coming soon.
Use this time propitiously. Get your affairs in order and prepare yourselves to stand up for freedom and democracy. Our government is a rotting corpse infested with maggots and must be replaced. The time to straddle the fence and argue about what to do and when to do it is nearing an end.
This is the dawning of the Age of Aquarius and the outcome literally is written in the stars.
martyrs for the world and their country. May we Americans find our honest place as one nation among nations to progress humanities common good.
It’s important to recognize that the western province of Libya, where the capital is and where only small demos have been taking place (and those very recently) is dominated by Qadafy’s tribe (I forget its name) while the eastern province is Sanoussi territory, the territory of the king of Libya deposed by Qadafy’s military cabal in 1969. The rebellion in which Libya drove out the Italian occupiers was led by the Sanoussis. Qadafy’s “free officers’” coup deposed the king and curtailed the influence of the eaterners. I mention this because it no doubt accounts for the greater uprising in Benghazi than in Tripoli and perhaps also for the need to import foreign thugs to put down the demos in Benghazi.
AJ reporting that unrest is spreading in Tripoli and that the large Al Warfalla tribe in the east is threatening to cut off the oil fields, also reports of an army unit defecting in the east (Bengazi?)
Thank you, Siun.