Friends of Sane Jaleh called for people to gather to mourn their friend and counter the government attempt to co-opt his funeral Wednesday morning. EnduringAmerica reports:
0650 GMT: The Battle for a 25 Bahman Martyr. State broadcaster IRIB is now reporting clashes between a pro-regime group and opposition supporters at the funeral of Sanee Zhaleh. IRIB claims that the pro-regime crowd drove away their opponents with shouts of “Down with the hypocrites”.
0635 GMT: 25 Bahman’s Casualty. The funeral of Sanee Zhaleh, who was killed during Monday’s marches, has begun outside the Tehran University of Fine Arts where he was a student. The regime, without providing evidence. has tried to claim Zhaleh as a “martyr” slain by demonstrators from the banned Mujahedin-e-Khalq.
And unconfirmed reports are circulating on twitter at #25Bahman that:
@netvand sahar morgen
LIVE FROM HONAR UNIVERSITY OF TEHRAN: “WE ARE TRAPPED IN KARBORDI HALL, BASIJIS ARE BEATING US, THEY ARE ARMED, HELP US” #25bahman
With western media barred from covering events in Iran – and given the persistent propaganda around all issues Iranian here in the States, it’s very hard to both follow events and parse their meaning. No matter how wrongheaded US policy toward Iran has been – nor how mistaken much of last year’s coverage of the Green Revolution was in overestimating popular opposition outside Tehran and the educated elite – the killings, beatings and arrests of protesters in the streets and the calls for executions of their leaders are horrifying.
One has to wonder how much American undercover attempts at regime change and sanctions on Iran have led to an increased insularity and resulting hardening by Iran’s government that contributes to the intensity of the crackdown on the protesters.
One does not have to wonder how clear America’s lack of commitment to fundamental human rights must be to the rest of the world when on Monday:
U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said … that Tehran’s crackdown on demonstrators, after it had praised the popular uprising in Egypt, shows the “hypocrisy” of the Iranian government.”
apparently forgetting her own support for the Egyptian regime while its response so closely matched what we now see in Iran’s streets – or when President Obama says things like this on Tuesday:
“We were clear then and we are clear now that what has been true in Egypt should be true in Iran, which is that people should be able to express their opinions and their grievances and seek a more responsive government,” Obama said. “What’s been different is the Iranian government’s response, which is to shoot people and beat people and arrest people.”
. . .
He also said nothing about the two protesters killed in Bahrain where instead Obama simply called for the government to “get out ahead of change. You can’t be behind the curve.” Of course, Bahrain just happens to be home to the United States Navy’s Fifth Fleet.
The administration’s silence on the violent crackdown on protests in Yemen, noted earlier here by David Dayen, also continues while “one senior U.S. official” is tasked with warning that “If Yemeni President Ali Abdullah Saleh is overthrown, ‘the likelihood of some really bad elements coming to power is real’” and
President Obama is proposing to increase ties to Yemen by sending nearly $200 million in aid to Yemen next year including $75 million to double the size of a special Yemeni counterterrorism unit.
This morality of convenience from Washington provides cover both for regimes like Mubarak’s – and for those like Ahmadinejad who point to our double standard as another sign that they are under attack, an attack used as an excuse for their brutal response to the young people in their streets.
UPDATE – Al Jazeera is reporting from Libya:
Demonstrators gathered in the early hours of Wednesday morning in front of police headquarters and chanted slogans against the “corrupt rulers of the country”, Al Jazeera’s sources said.
Police fired tear gas and violently dispersed protesters, the sources said without providing further details.
In a telephone interview with Al Jazeera, Idris Al-Mesmari, a Libyan novelist and writer, said that security officials in civilian clothes came and dispersed protesters by using tear gas, batons and hot water.
And hours later, Mesmari was reported to have been arrested.
Anti-government protesters have also called on citizens to observe Thursday as a “Day of Rage”. They are hoping to emulate recent popular uprisings in Egypt and Tunisia to end Colonel Muammar Gaddafi’s 41-year-old rule.



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Sounds like members of Congress
Well this administration better get their stories, and priorities right pretty quick as, by my count, we have Egypt, Tunisia, Libya, Bahrain, Iran, Algeria and Yemen in the coupvolution (love that word) stakes so far. Wisconsin may well be first here.
Mike cHuckabee isn’t in Congress.
I don’t think that the United States really wants revolution in Iran. That would remove a major boogey man the administration(s) can point to in the middle east and it would remove a fat, juicy target from the MIC’s sights. And they are too big to fail™.
Indeed the hypocrisy. The preznit:
which would match his own response should the like break out in the US.
I don’t doubt it but you have nothing to base that on except educated guesswork.
There is the record of VN protestors.
I suppose and the the Kent State Massacre. I could probably find more. I take back my # 6.
I was in Nam when Kent State happened. Woke me up. Never been to a demo or rally where I don’t realize that some control freak cop might light me up.
Yes, Kent State was exactly what I was thinking about.
And all U.S. police forces down into very small towns are now equipped with ‘anti-riot’ gear and much beefed up fortified vehicles, etc. than in the halcyon days of VN protests. So it doesn’t take much of a leap to figure out what would happen should serious protests break out in the U.S. today.
Manhattan during the R prez convention looked like Baghdad, except there weren’t any tanks.
Even on its face, this is nonsense. Our official position is that we do not care whether governments are autocratic, use violence against the peaceful, suppress speech and press, etc., as long as you are not a hypocrite about it?
“WE ARE TRAPPED IN KARBORDI HALL, BASIJIS ARE BEATING US, THEY ARE ARMED, HELP US”
Heartbreaking!
“WE ARE TRAPPED IN
KARBORDI HALLGuantanamo, Al Gharib, Bahran,BASIJISAmericans ARE BEATING US, THEY ARE ARMED, HELP US”Heartbreaking!
Agreed. Washington wants the repression to succeed so it can take notes on how to put down an insurrection.
As Che Guevarra once said, “In revolution one wins or one dies.”
They wrote the book and trained the armies and the thugs.
The tactics have become more refined since then. Now groups cannot legally assemble without a permit and posting a sizeable bond for liability.
True, but you need a trial run to make sure your method works.
I doubt the Shah was an angel.
Hell, in Manhattan they even arrest groups of bicyclists who are doing nothing wrong, and randomly knock them off their cycles, take their camera phones & stomp on them. I think the permitting thingy was the fig leaf, but I didn’t follow the story closely.
Pop control in the U.S. is really police state magnitude.
+1
We have a winner.
Iran’s insularity goes back to a key event. George Bush’s inclusion of Iran in the “Axis of Evil” caused a political backlash that brought Ahmedinejad to power. And since then, the US has followed a policy of sanctions that has hardened the determination of the Iranian government not to open up. And certain elements in the US political system, if not the government itself have be supporting an insurgent Baluchi group that has engaged in terrorism.
The focus of Obama and Clinton on Iran all of a sudden might be an extension of their end point on Egypt, might be an attempt to bring critics of their support of the Egyptian people in the end to understand a consistent policy, or might be a calculated move to destabilize Iran. But it is not helpful to the opposition forces in Iran; it makes them look like American operatives.
The theocratic oligarchy in Iran will eventually crack. But I don’t see signs of that yet because I don’t see people in huge numbers losing their fear of violent oppression. But it could very well happen nonetheless.
Like in Egypt, the US has no control over events in Iran. There is not even a billion dollars in aid to give the illusion of control.
This country already has contingency plans for any type of uprising in the event of “emergency”…cough…ahem
Re:
“U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said … that Tehran’s crackdown on demonstrators, after it had praised the popular uprising in Egypt, shows the “hypocrisy” of the Iranian government.”
apparently forgetting her own support for the Egyptian regime while its response so closely matched what we now see in Iran’s streets”
The above seems to forget the sequence
On 1/25 – says “Mubarak Regime is ‘Stable’#
On 1/30 – says “Mubarak’s Fate in Hands of Egyptian People
On Feb 6 – says Mubarak transition will require at least 60 days for elections and immediate removal may hurt the setting up of elections.
AND ON FEB 6 Hillary Clinton tells Mubarak AND MILITARY that hurting demonstrators will end the $1.3 billion of military aid – followed by military being found to be “friends” of demonstrators and enters square and does not hurt them – as police are withdrawn.
Albeit On Feb 7 it was again keep Mubarak until elections – that could have been better
In contrast in Iran the US has no influence – it can not threaten the loss of military aid to stop the harm to the demonstrators.
As to other demonstrations, I know just enough to know I can’t even guess at the situation in the future – seems Shia minority are demanding control of a Sunni majority country in one case, in another (Yemen) a country held together by bribes is running out of oil money for those bribes and a north south tribal based split seems possible. In Algeria the gov has “muslim fundis” killing Berbers – indeed killing the educated that do not agree with them – so the gov has massive controls on the people in place, as 1000 folks demonstrate – hard to see where it is going.
Indeed David Brooks may have the right idea for once – that it is about corruption and the taking of the rich as the poor get poorer and rich right wing media control(which is a problem in the US), but it is more about feeling you are being treated decently – the first requirement of which is to feel you are being listened too. We are sold the idea that we have fair elections (we don’t) and those elections allow us to not go into the streets – we think we are being listened to – we ignore the media abandoning the search for truth – and going for he said/she said, no matter how made up and ridiculous the right wing lie is in the non right wing controlled media – as the Murdoch world and Clear Chanel right wing talk continue to make up stories loosely based on an out of context fact.
St. Paul a couple years back, too. Rows and rows of riot cops with shields and batons, just like we saw in Cairo. I remember seeing a beige camo Humvee with a mounted machine gun on top rolling around downtown. And barbed wire by the X (the arena).
And I’ll never forget the outdoor fenced area down by the river bank where they put the hundreds of people they arrested, including the Democracy Now folks. It looked like a concentration camp.
Obama says—
“I find it ironic that you’ve got the Iranian regime pretending to celebrate what happened in Egypt when, in fact, they have acted in direct contrast to what happened in Egypt by gunning down and beating people who were trying to express themselves peacefully in Iran.”
300 dead and 3000 injured in Egypt,
Secretary Clinton gave big speech™ on internet freedom yesterday: new grants, twitter feeds in Arabic & Farsi, ‘vitally important to freedom, blah blah blah – followed by Q & A w/ senior adviser Alec Ross (?)
no response to my questions regarding:
- jailed Bahraini bloggers: Abduljalil Alsingace, and Ali Abdel Imam
- why President Obama insisted on 2/3/11 to Yemen’s Saleh that blogger Abdul-Elah Haidar Shaye remain imprisoned – despite the fact Saleh had previously granted release as a concession to reforms pressure
despite the contagion of self determination presently spreading all over ME, Ross took 3 of his 7 questions from Russia
“We don’t negotiate with terrorists.” “The US does not do business with Communist states.” “Our Human Rights policy forbids us from acting with states that do not abide by civility.”
A pack of meaningless words!
Iraqi’s just want power and water. They have the right to protest too!
Is Petreaus in or out? Only his hairdresser knows for sure.
current tweets reflect off and on shut down of AJ, al-Arabya, FB, & twitter in Libya – outages appear to be about an hour in length
Fixed it for ya.
He wants to be POTUS.
If it’s “vitally important to freedom” Congress will give the president the kill switch.
Is that what his hairdresser says? (Just kidding. I’m familiar with the POTUS stories.)
Great Post! Siun
the USG current foreign policy teams need a complete make over.
Shoot to kill, no doubt must protect that “Homeland” doncha know.
You rock, Siun.
No. More. Bullshit.
Actually in MN at RNC when the riot police were beating peaceful protesters, women and children, people stumped by horses, tear gased and percussion bombed, lots of people called the Obama and Franken campaigns and the campaign workers said they would have to say something because so many people had called, neither of them said a word. Amy Goodman was arrested and her staff beaten and no corporate media reported the truth.
And used those contingency plans in the 1960s. I remember very well seeing the 82nd Airborne roll through the streets of Baltimore with soldiers leaning on the ragtops of trucks, M-16s at the ready.
What brought them out were the flaming riots after the assassination of Dr. Martin Luther King.
And in the 1930s, governors of states routinely called up the National Guard to crush strikes, including the Textile Strike of 1938 in Southern textile states.
And then there is the suppression of Coxey’s Army by Gen. Douglas MacArthur during the Hoover administration.
Why should now be different.
oops, my #37 was replying to you
You all probably know this but I find it very interesting. From what I can tell, Yemen’s protest seemed to be triggered by protests by women lead by Tawakul Karman. They started protesting in mid Jan. Karman was arrested on the 22nd of Jan and fairly quickly released. Where it gets more interesting to me. Seems she was nominated in 2010 for a State Department Woman of Courage Award. Tawakul is still going strong and has recognition from the protestors a a leader of the movement. That sure puts Clinton as a woman’s advocate in a pickle, but then again maybe not: Tawakul’s fast release after being arrested? Maybe you should ask why she was released so quickly, but not Alsingace. Who is he by the way? Is he working with Tawakul? Could that give him some pull? Is he part of the initial protest by the women’s group or did he come along later?
no but they were using netting to throw over protesters and jail them. Blacks said that is what they did to the slaves to catch them and bring them here. they were outraged.
Iran and the Iranian people have had plenty of direct experience with both the British Empire and American Empire–see what the British Empire did to Iran during WW2 and note the CIA took out the elected Iranian leader in 1953 because he was too pro Iranian. The CIA put the Shah on the Peacock Throne. American militarism was then woven into Iran and the brutal Savak was empowered to threaten Iranians who dared to be critical or resistant.
Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton have demonstrated beyond doubt that they are puppets of TelAviv.
Hosni Mubarak is now out of power in Cairo but as one learns more about who has replaced him we see WashingtonDC and TelAviv likely won more from Egyptian blood being shed then the Egyptian people.
WashingtonDC backed the Shah of Iran long past his political expiration date being he was WashingtonDC’s kept puppet.
WashingtonDC and it’s leash keeper–TelAviv–surely would like to see the regime in Tehran fall but it also is quite likely the replacement they would back to follow the current Tehran regime would have to kowtow to WashingtonDC and TelAviv.
Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton at this point simply present little or no political credence or integrity regarding Iran.
The Iranian people have been demonized by WashingtonDC and TelAviv both recklessly for the worst of avarice and corrupt power desire driven policies and agendas.
One does not want to see the Iranian people suffer as they seek better political pathways for Iran.
The Iranians are a very noble people who have a richly aged culture and distinquished history. They deserve better than what the American backed Shah was or what this current regime in Tehran seems capable of.
May peace,compassion and political open space come about for the Iranians people.
Despite WashingtonDC or TelAviv.
Yes, It’s been happening for years now.
History of what was done to the labor movement. I wonder that labor was ever able to organize at all. Now, of course we’re back to the violent days of yesteryear:
Wisc. Governor Makes a Cold-Blooded Threat to Sic the National Guard on Union Workers
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edit:
The same will be dealt to protesters of any kind here. They are ready for us.
I withdrew that comment. Guess you hadn’t gotten that far yet.
Alsingace is long time Human Rights blogger – Saleh slimed him w/ “AQ affiliated” to imprison him
Reports of one protester killed in Yemem today, wide clashes.
Papau – Bahrain is 70% Shia but ruled by Sunni, much of the rest innacurate – suggest more research
Hypocrisy?
How about the calls for the arrest and/or assassination of Julian Assange.
He isn’t even criticizing the government, just publishing it’s activities.
Would anyone say what Clinton and Obama should say or do? Given the history of American spooks on the ground fomenting regime change, it seemed Clinton’s little speech might have seemed welcome to protestors on one hand, and dangerous in actuality on the other. The Basij are pretty serious adversaries on the street it seems.
Someone I read recently said that Clinton’s speech was code for ‘we’ve given up trying to negotiating with iran over their nuclear program’. But i also remember how when Turkey was asked by the State Dept. to help arrange a deal, and they DID, at least some good first steps, State attacked Turkey publicly for their efforts. Asshats.
speaking of Iran, the US and irony brings to mind Obama’s complaints about the Pakistani detention of US “diplomat” Raymond Davis – - I seem to recall these five Iranian “diplomats” who hadn’t been involved in a daytime shootout but who were nonentheless the target of a special forces raid in Irbil (Erbil, Arbil)and were “detained” by the US for years, under the claim that they were spies and Quds, not “real” diplomats.
Hypocrisy 101
Now that’s the way a Nobel Peace Laureate should talk. Applying moral force, not killing innocents.
In other news, the president is asking Congress for $671 billion for the Defense Department in fiscal 2012, which starts Oct. 1. The budget calls for $553 billion in the “base budget” and $117.8 billion for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, on top of the current fiscal year expenditures of $159 billion for war costs in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Meanwhile in Egypt, strikes are continuing.
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2011/02/2011216141815340645.html
The defense and intel budgets that are public are a joke.
We are hiding in other departments budgets a much larger percentage of the defense and intel budget than we ever hid from the USSR.
And to what end – if the public knew of the 1.3 trillion total they might cut that budget – and Obama thinks this cutting is a bad idea – why?
Maybe the Obama game is to blow up those charts that show the evil of “entitlements” – of course they are not referred to as “Social Insurance payouts” that are totally offset by social insurance income (taxes) and the sale of assets accumulated by the excess of the tax over prior payouts.
There must be a thousand people who know the facts and are not in jeopardy of losing a clearance by revealing those facts. You’d think Congress would tell what they have been told at least – albeit they are not told the whole story.
In other mid-east “WTF?” news, Israel is threatening Iranian ships using the Suez Canal:
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/02/16/israel-warns-act-iranian-warships-passing-suez-canal/
Depends on how many National Guard soldiers have parents who are teachers. And whether and how fast President Obama nationalizes the Wisconsin National Guard if the governor makes good on his threat.
Now, that’s a very confusing article. If Iranian warships are in the Suez Canal, what about Iran’s national interest are they supporting? And if they show up in the Mediterranean, should Israel be worried. But what is confusing is the stuff about Yemen; Iranian warships don’t have to go through the Suez Canal to get to Yemen.
But then it’s FoxNews, which thinks that Egypt is the country between Syria and Iran.
‘Heel; all good questions. :o)
I think the broad answer is that Israel is just itching to toss a railroad flare into the mid-east powder magazine, in hopes of dragging us into it.
And, about a year from now, when Obama’s numbers are really going to be tanking, I’m not sure that it would be hard dragging, to get HIM on board for the clusterfuck trifecta, as a means of ginning up some testosterone-patriotism to try to help himself get a chance at a second term.