•Krugman: Eat the future…..nice rant by Krugman, but he forgets one thing. Obama is the President. He can veto anything he pleases. What Krugman misses is that Obama is the one that wants to do just as much cutting as the Republicans. Last few articles Krugman has written, do not sound much like that of an economic genius. More like a cheerleader.
So what’s worse: Hundreds of billions in wrongheaded spending cuts from a Democrats president? Or hundreds of billions in wrongheaded spending cuts from Republicans in Congress? I’m confused…
Here’s a good one BT!
Is the army tightening its grip on Egypt?
By Robert Fisk
Now the military says it will ban protests, in the interests of safety etc etc.
Well if they weren’t both trying to starve the beast for funds, the easiest solution that would have saved the government 100 billion per year for the next 10 years would have been to let the tax cuts expire, restoring them to Clinton levels of taxation. But that is too obvious!
Good Morning, BT and Vous Chiots
I thought a little French might be romantic, for Valentines Day.
Wow! Southern Dragon has nearly 200 hits for his Caturday. We’ve got a celebrity at Morning Swim. Good for you, SD.
Is Mubarak in the process of pulling a Ken Lay?
Hosni Mubarak is said to have collapsed soon after his last public address on Thursday. By Saturday night he was in a full coma, according to al-Masry al-Youm.
At least he remembered to take care of business before he pulls his disappearing act.
Hosni Mubarak used the 18 days it took for protesters to topple him to shift his vast wealth into untraceable accounts overseas, Western intelligence sources have said.
The most striking thing I see is that neither party is working on a jobs bill.
Says it all and really shows Americans who is representing them.
What a nice guy…thief, I guess, is the correct word.
Y algún español para usted.
Feliz dia de San Valentin.
Cokie Roberts on the radio doing commentary. I swear she does not wake up/get out a bed before she is interviewed….Give her a cuppa coffee, please. Yep, turned her off.
He trained well under his US mentors.
I had to go look up chiot….and I was a French major in college (but that was 50 years ago).
Good morning, demi and chiots!
Mornin’, BT, pups
Happy Valentine’s Day!
It’s also Things’ birthday. Give him a shout out when ya see him today.
demi, it’s the pups who visit Caturday that make it what it is, not me.
Krugman’s last line:
And so they had to produce something like Friday’s proposal, a plan that would save remarkably little money but would do a remarkably large amount of harm.
It’s not only the Rethugs, Paul, there are a lot of ConservaDems pushing the same shit. I wouldn’t expect anything less from these assholes.
Yesterday’s book salon with Wendell Potter was outstanding. If you haven’t, you should go read the comments. He kept up with, and responded to, more comments and questions than most of our previous book salon guests, and it felt like a real conversation with him.
What’s up with Boner? The President musta gave ‘im head in that private meeting they had.
If the baggers want to lose the orange jaundiced Speaker of the House, they’re getting plenty of ammunition.
Wonder how well Boehner’s zero-tolerance pledge regarding corruption will hold up when it comes out that several hundred paper-making jobs were lost in his district and he refused to do anything about it at the same time he was sleeping with a lobbyist for the printing industry that was very happy to get their cheap paper from China.
Thanks for the tip.
Good morning all.
You’re being modest. You are the go to guy when cats are involved. And, kudos to Elliot too, who I understand encouraged you.
I’m really not a cat person, even though one owns me, but your weekly post certainly fills the bill for many and for that, I am pleased. Life is so challenging most of the time and it’s wonderful for people to have a place of comfort once in a while.
Yeah, that’s my latest kick. Pointing to comfort.
Hey there, Molly. I read it afterwards, not real time. Looked like you had a great time.
Just wow, Creep. And another Creep: I hope the Rumsfeld book hits the same discounted bins as the Palin wisdom. What a pair.
Morning BT & Fiery Pups of Fire:
No surprise here, but nice to pass along to any wingnuts you might run across…
And for the Funny Valentines…
Did you see Andy Worthingon’s report on his recent visit to Poland? Interested to hear your take on it.
So what kind of teabagged will BONER be? Orange Pekoe?
Yeah, I read that and my first thought was that it will all be a liberal plot somehow. I’ll bet there will be tears from Beck.
Yep, it’s all Elliott’s fault. She suggested I do a diary after some of us were talking tigers on a thread. Year and a half now, not too shabby.
That would go well with toast.
Thanks, Shoto. Pretty song.
Prolly. Orange Pekoe is about the bitterest tea I’ve tasted.
I just hope you realize how loved you are, especially on this Valentines Day.
There you all are!
I’m sending love hearts to all FDL Pups! Happy Love Heart Day!
I have much fondness for all my friends here. You know who you are.
Anyone else in the mood for a ((((group hug))))?
Off to swim in the great capitalist cesspool.
US KIA Afghanistan: 1,476
US KIA Irak: 4,436
Iraki, Afghan and Pakistani casualties: estimates vary to over 1.5M
US MBS 2011: 5,456 and counting
La Vie En Rose
Be good to yourselves, and all other living things
Good morning all. Thanks for the post BT.
Really, when are the guys with nets and straitjackets going to go to CPAC, lock the doors and start rounding these people up en masse?
I’ll join your (((group hug))) demi. :)
Not shabby at all…we love it and you keep it going. Happy Valentine Day to you and all these kitty peoples and their beloveds…..
Oh, that Pam Geller video made me dizzy and nauseous. The wavy camera, her words and attitude and OMG – the eye makeup.
“Moderate Muslims don’t exist,” one woman told the crowd. “It’s like Blue Dog Democrats,” a woman in towards the front of the crowd commented to her friend.
They are all upset over Grover Norquist and his Muslum buddies, wife, and folks he helped place into head of agencies.
I’m tellling ya, I’ve had the best laughs over this year’s CPAC. This has been a much better episode than the Rush Limbaugh one!
Krugman’s deeper point is that the infantalization of the American public has reached a level that is probably beyond repair. The next step is military dictatorship or some authoritarian substitute, which is what usually happens when a democracy becomes unable to manage its affairs, which is essentially what has happened in the United States.
The crap that goes for economics is pervasive. I refereed a new edition of a major college econ textbook last year. I hadn’t done one of these since Bernanke and Abel’s macro text. It was worse than awful. Pure ideology, hardly any actual analysis. Everything reduced to what in academic discourse amounts to talking points. The deterioration since the 1960s is remarkable, sad, and probably uncorrectable. It is pure propaganda.
A remake of One Flew Over the Cookoo’s Nest could be filmed an next year’s CPAC.
Haven’t we had the Chicago/Wall Street school of Economics for a very long time? Even Greenspan was as corrupt as Bernanke.
Thanks for the link.
Other than driving by the secret rendition site, before 9/11, so none of the torture activity going on at the time, I know nothing about it.
However, it is very interesting to see that ‘high value’ prisoners were transferred (if not worse) thru there, and encouraging to see someone is trying to hold Polish officials accountable.
Haley Barbour is very smart. I agree with everything he said about immigration in the clip you can reach from the link, especially the remark about stamping “citizenship” on the diploma of every Indian receiving a Ph.D. from Stanford. Do you recall that Sen Fritz Hollings of SC was a candidate for Prez in 1984? Hollings’ sound was thought to be a big disadvantage, possibly also his meanness, particularly among Dems. Barbour’s sound is, um, unconventional.
Tunisian immigrants are reaching Lampedusa, 70 miles from Tunisia, 127 miles from Siciliy. Humanitarian crisis? Where have I heard that word? Oh, yes. Giuseppe Tomasi di Lampedusa wrote “The Leopard.” The movie starred Burt Lancaster, Alain Delon, Claudia Cardinale. Rolls off your tongue, doesn’t it?
An interview from 10 days’ time ago. Bill Borucki is the Kepler spacecraft’s principal investigator.
They try to outcrazy themselves each year and they’ve so far succeeded wildly. Kinda makes next year’s seem a bit ominous really.
That is frightening, since what is taught at the U dictates the course of events for at least the next generation.
Getting the word out on the net is a start. The black site in Romania may still be operational. We need more information about it.
Yes, but one thing is for sure. They are all hating on Grover now!
I find myself returning to ‘classics’ I read in the 60′s and 70′s.
Just reread Orwell’s “Homage to Catalonia”.
And as for recent Economic theory, “ECONNED” by Yves Smith is my primer.
I haven’t kept up to date on the topic of secret rendition sites. Is Poland one of the few who have ‘allowed’ any outsiders to start investigations?
Sorry late to the hugfest, just got out of the shower!
One thing you can rely on about Republicans: They are always hating on somebody.
LOL! Ain’t that the Twooph!
Egypt update above.
Apparently. Antiwar.com monitors this stuff, and the Polish site is the only one so far that was picked up.
Yeah, like telling Candy Crowley that slavery was insignificant and later saying that the violence associated with the civil rights movement “wasn’t that bad”. What a genius.
How would you rate him compared to Clarence Thomas? Carol Mosely Braun? John Kerry? John McCain? Dan Quayle? Ann Richards? Pat Buchanan? Jay Rockefeller?
Below all but Dan Quayle, Pat Buchanan and Clarence Thomas. BTW, Ann Richards is dead so unless you can think of a way to bring her back to life, she isn’t likely to be able to offer rebuttal.
Yes, that’s the only one I’ve noticed, but if I hadn’t had the personal connection, I prolly wouldn’t have noticed.
I have to say, that when I learned it was a secret rendition site in 2007, courtesy of rawstory, it was one of those many small events that made a big diff to how I thought about the USG. Previously, I had just shaken my head in disbelief at WTF was the U.S. doing there. Only in 2007 did I begin to see how it fit into the larger picture, and not a pretty one.
I have a similiar sense. Krugman notes that most people don’t really want spending cuts, nor do they want tax increases. So we need to revise the laws of arithmatic. Easy to do if you are a tea bagger. If we are unable to come to grips with the reality of mathematics, you may be right. Someone may have to help us.
Yeah, it’s what they do.
Not part of your conversation, so forgive the interjection. But your list looks like a litany of failing students who you are asking to grade on a curve.
Where did you come up with that list btw? How can you lump Ann Richards in with Barbour and Buchanan? Neither of them are likely to win the NAACP Presidential Award for Outstanding Contributions to Civil Rights or the National Wildlife Federation’s Conservation Achievement Award like Ann Richards did.
Wrong. Much smarter than everybody except Buchanan. I threw Buchanan in to try to trick you. Kyl is also smart.
Ann Richards is dead? Pshaw. Next you’ll be telling me Judge Crater is dead.
Ummm, so out of that list Barbour and Buchanan are the smartest? Tells me everything I need to know about you. Those two just happen to be the biggest racists in that group, it doesn’t have anything to deal with how you feel. Right?
Smarter eh? How much you reckon, an inch or more??
Ann Richards won some sort of humanitarian award from the NAACP and that makes her smart? Maybe it makes her a decent person who does good works but it doesn’t make her smart.
I see people, for example yesterday, questioning Barbour’s intelligence and I think it smug and self-aggrandizing. I think Barbour’s intelligence jumps off the page at 1. Maybe you are looking for some term other than not-smart.
Define smart and what “smartness” has to do with a person’s ideology or behaviour.
Smart? you wanna talk smart? I bet Mohammad Ali could put Barbour down in less than a round. Now that’s pretty smart, don’t ya think?
Would you relish preparing for a debate with Barbour? I would not. I doubt his candidacy is going anywhere. Perhaps he wants the VP nomination.
Geez, it would be nice to see Barbour and Palin debate. Who has the mostest zingers and gotchas?? Shit Cristie is pretty good at that too? But on that scale, maybe the winner would be Palin.
For 50 years, from 1900 until 1950, it was pretty safe and possibly quite advantageous for a political figure in the South to be a racist. Are you thinking there was no smart white racist coming from the South in all those years?
A possible definition of smart would be “able to get what you want.”
I knew it !! Palin wins hands down.
Would you relish preparing for a debate with Barbour? I would not.
Why? You think he’d be able to out racist you? Again, out of that list you put up to compare Barbour to, the one you think is as “smart” or “smarter” than he is Pat Buchanan, white supremacist. Later you add Jon Kyl, who is also a major racist. I don’t think “smart” means what you think it means.
Or maybe it is Ali. He got what he wanted with his fists.
I think you’re flailing.
I’ve got bad news for you Einstein: It’s long past 1950 and Barbour was born in 1947. How does he excuse his racism?
And I think you’re failing.
Really? Try telling us again what smart means to you?
Do you recall that Sen Fritz Hollings of SC was a candidate for Prez in 1984? Hollings’ sound was thought to be a big disadvantage
Wait! Did I miss something? When did we have the Hollings Administration? Or even the Hollings run against Reagan in the general election?
This is going nowhere. let’s see smart is the ability to get what you want you say. Barbour is a really smart guy but his candidacy is not going anywhere, you say in the next breath. So I guess he really doesn’t want it, yet he is chasing it. Case closed. Really smart fella. Gotta go.
1) Racist asshole
3) Racist Republican asshole
any right wing politician, commentator, or pundit who has a 19th century view of race and has the abysmal political acumen to point that out on every public forum he/she can get attention from.
You’re still flailing.
Racism, as such, has nothing to do with intelligence. I don’t know that Barbour is a racist. Do you? How do you know? Perhaps being perceived, by some, as a racist is to his advantage. Do you think perceived racism has cost him? How?
Perhaps he just wants more ham, bacon and pork rinds – all slathered with extra lard. Just sayin’…
Yeah, I know.
I liked the music from the Andrews sisters.
What, precisely, constitutes “intelligence” by your measure? Be specific.
Have you read all the comments? Ha Ha. I know it when I see it. Like porno.
I’m flailing? Let’s see, you’ve just exposed yourself as a bigot and a racist to everybody here, not to mention a Republican troll while the vast majority of the other commentators are in agreement with me. So if we go by majority rule, am I to believe everybody else on this blog is “flailing” along with me or is it just you? You claim to be smart. Which do you find most likely?
Flailing is another word that doesn’t mean what you apparently think it does.
It most certainly has nothing to do with being “smart”, I would guess. But we await the answer.
Yes, I have read all the comments. As I said:
I would suggest that if the aforementioned individuals serve as examples of your idea of “intelligence,” then not only is your scale all jacked up, I’d also add that there’s something wrong with your life. These are very diseased individuals.
OT, O is on the tube. More spending cuts. He is on a race to the bottom with the repugs. Says he needs to cut things he feels deeply about. Wonderful, that’s what I want. It will surely help the unemployment situation. A little triangulation here and there so he can be a friend to everyone.
He’s going to go down in history…right next to Herbert, (Mr. Austerity), Hoover
Yeah, but he is a better politician, “smart” as some might say.
I haven’t claimed to be smart. Now you’re making things up.
I think Haley Barbour is a smart man. That makes me a racist and a bigot? Non sequitur!
The vast majority of other commenters. That would probably be 5 or 6 others and would be classified as an appeal to common taste.
Nice. Ironic but nice.
Although I like Krugman I have to take issue with this statement regarding the conflicting opinions of Americans regarding balancing the budget:
“How can voters be so ill informed? In their defense, bear in mind that they have jobs, children to raise, parents to take care of. They don’t have the time or the incentive to study the federal budget, let alone state budgets (which are by and large incomprehensible). So they rely on what they hear from seemingly authoritative figures.”
I feel there is not defense for being ill informed about how our government works. The information is readily available online about how much we spend on the military, how much of our wealth is concentrated in the hands of a few greedy bastards, which politicians care about the wealthy and which care about the rest of us, etc.
This willful ignorance is why the corporate bastards have hijacked our government. People this lazy and stupid get the government they deserve.
I have a lot, a real lot, of sensitivity and feeling, of empathy. Sympathy, too. I would make a good poet, doncha know.
He is so disappointing as a supposed democrat in the midst of a recession/depression. Would FDR have taken this road? I surely doubt it.
I think Haley Barbour is a smart man. That makes me a racist and a bigot? Non sequitur!
Everybody you’ve named as “smart”, (Haley Barbour, Pat Buchanan, Jon Kyl), have been racists or have embraced racist policies and/or made very racist statements and almost everybody you have mentioned as a comparator have been famously not racist. Maybe I’m putting two and two together and coming up with 7,046 but I don’t think so.
FDR did though. And just like Obama, he let the Republicans bully him into it. That’s why the Great Depression saw a double dip. We’re already seeing signs of unemployment going up again.
I wish it were as you say, but sadly, it is not. People are just not into reading budgets or checking out facts on line. They listen to pundits, many of which come from Faux News and so they have wrongheaded ideas. If we cannot break into that somehow we are indeed heading for trouble.
I was hopin” we could get Rumsfeld on Book Salon…
I hope you are wrong about unemployment. That is a scourge that can bring down governments and will likely finish O on 2012.
Racists = not smart; or racists are a subset of not smart
Is this what you’re saying? Or are you saying that racists aren’t sensitive and empathetic, aren’t good people, don’t do good works, aren’t libs, aren’t progs?
Racist doesn’t preclude smart.
Racism is antithetical to being “good people”. Bigotry and prejudice are antithetical to critical thought. All of these traits show a disturbing penchant for believing preconceptions and stereotypes, rather than collecting and analyzing your own data. There may be intelligent racists but that doesn’t make them “smart” and it sure as hell doesn’t make them Progressive.
Wrong. O is going to finish O in 2012. Unemployment may be the vehicle but his lack of intestinal fortitude and his kowtowing to the rich, the PTB and bigcorp, not to mention ongoing wars are going to be his downfall.
Barbour is not well known. He also can’t do much about how he looks and how he sounds. Maybe they’re not such disadvantages to the people he needs to appeal to.
The late actor Jack Cassidy was married to Shirley Jones. I once heard him say that his looks had not held him back. I’d say that Barbour’s intelligence has not held him back.
Can he do anything about what he says? Apparently not.
Thanks for the link.
I taught astronomy at Columbia College, CA, until 18 months ago.
I was downsized due to budget cuts.
The PTB decided that college students don’t really need science to be a well rounded person.
Methinks you need a front end loader to carry all your horseshit around.
I’ll bet the sports programs are doing just fine though…
My reply to gvandergrift at #112 was to this link:
An interview from 10 days’ time ago. Bill Borucki is the Kepler spacecraft’s principal investigator.”
Thanks. Yeah, I figured that out when you said you used to teach astronomy. I too am an out of work scientist and though my ambition was to do astronomy, my math wasn’t good enough so I went into human subject research. Science is always the first thing to go and the last thing to come back.
As for Kepler, 528 confirmed exoplanets as of today is going to increase dramatically over the next few years. It’s very exciting.
Be more specific. There was no content to your post.
I went away.
De nada. As the interviewer points out, the announced results are based on only 4 months of data, from back in 2009.
How about Phil Gramm? Smart or not smart? Does he have all the correct opinions? Or not?
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