You’ve got HuffPo.
AOL. Where ideas go to die.
HuffPo arrives DOA at AOL.
There are ideas on AOL??? The idea of AOL taking over HuffPo puts the nail in the coffin as far as I’m concerned. HuffPo used to be worth reading, but then they went off the rails. This drives the stake into its heart.
“The business environment is such that you have to be careful up here calling yourself a Democrat — there’s a stigma to it.”
That’s precisely how the Republicans maintained their machine in Delaware County PA for decades. They had voters brainwashed into thinking that R party chiefs could see how they voted, and if they voted D they’d both lose their jobs and wouldn’t have their trash picked up. The sheeple there easily fell in line.
Mornin’, BT, pups
So Arianna was a capitalist all along. Who knew. Now it’ll be Entertainment Tonight all day everyday.
Buh bye, HuffPo.
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You’ve got HuffPo.
Oh yeah. Worked out really well for Ted Turner, didn’t it? I can’t help but think that AOL will figure out a way to fuck it all up. Arianna states:
“Our readers will still be able to come to the Huffington Post at the same URL, and find all the same content they’ve grown to love, plus a lot more — more local, more tech, more entertainment, more finance, and lots more video,” Huffington said in the statement.
However, even though she’ll still be the boss of the operation, she will now be answering to some corporate jagoff higher up in the food chain. The “same content…plus a lot more..” part is especially telling. “Plus a lot more?” Um…
Morning BT & Firepups.
Arianna is Hungarian right?
It reminds me of an old Eastern European Soviet era joke. Hungarians are so clever one could enter a revolving door behind you and exit before you.
Arianna’s a clever capitalist alright.*g*
Well now Arianna can retire and make media cameo appearances. I hope Sam Stein finds a good place to work; he is one of the real journalists there.
You sort of knew that when Howard Fineman’s sole byline was the Huffington Post which way things were going. But I thought that HuffPo would be buying out the competition instead of being sold.
The Huffpo take…
Hedges is up.
I believe she’s Greek.
AOL is out from under Time-Warner’s thumb since 2009. They can eff up things on their own now.
Having the torturer in chief appointed as Vice President is a “staggering gain”? If you say so Reuters.
“blood on Bernanke’s hands.”
The MOTUs couldn’t possibly be thinking about depopulating the plantet, right?
Mornin’ everyone! Cold and gray here again. Ugh, winter, I hate it.
I usually wind up at HuffPo following a link, occasionally read someone like Robert Reich while I’m there, and then leave. There’s too much “stuff” there – don’t need “a lot more” of it. I don’t expect it to get any better as part of AOL.
You are correct.
AKA Arianna Stassinopoulos
Birthplace: Athens, Greece
AKA Arianna Stassinopoulos
Birthplace: Athens, Greece
They can eff up things on their own now.
Great. Something to look forward to…
Arianna Huffington, born Arianna Stassinopoulos (Greek: Αριάννα Στασσινόπουλος) on July 15, 1950, is a Greek-American author and syndicated columnist. She is best known as co-founder of the news website The Huffington Post.
You would be right.
Well, so much for Huffington Post. Time to take it out of my bookmarks.
Won’t take AOL long to turn it into a total piece of shit.
The fact that Robert Reich is given a forum there is the red flag that warns how decadent the site is.
Why is wanting children to eat better and go play more often “controversial”? This is a perfect example of what the US media has degenerated into. The whole idea that this is in some way unAmerican or controversial should have been dismissed as soon as it left the first teabagger’s mouth. Instead it’s given column space and suddenly it has life.
Is it possible for HuffPo to have even more entertainment news?
Nope. Everything AOL touches turns into a pos in very short order. I didn’t know aol had $315 million
Thanks for the correction. My bad.
My toolbar has FDL, Salon (for Glenzilla), Steve Benen, Krugman, Media Matters, Taibbi, Hedges and Maddow Blog (don’t read it, just use it to get to her show). No HuffPo or Plum Line (the commenters there are too nasty and not modded). Other blogs (like ThinkProgress) I get to from links elsewhere. I haven’t got room in my head or toolbar for anything else.
Um, you have a problem with Reich? I don’t read him regularly but when I do he seems to make sense.
Arianna’s site has sucked for a long time. It is anti-democratic as all hell: despite having long comment sections, the moderation is absurd and overbearing and slow; no discussion takes place there at all. It is as obnoxiously corporate as facebook and just as abusive of privacy. I couldn’t fucking believe it when I logged on one day to find out that three people were following me on Twitter! Wtf? I never signed up for twitter. Evidently, Queen Arianna, decided to sign up her unwashed commenters en masse for Twitter. Honestly, I’d still like to talk to a lawyer about that and see if I could sue the bitch. Just because she’s been on the right side of some issues during her life, she has probably been on the wrong side an equal number of times. She’s a bore who likes to hear herself talk and thinks that an Oxford education+an accent+lots of money=insighful. And I have never heard her once apologize for her complete support of Reagan, Thatcher and Gingrich. Some of us are old enough to remember all the damage she whole heartedly supported. Puke. Good riddance. I hope that gatekeeping slickly packaged pseudo blog dies quickly from the AOL touch of death.
But that’s not ruling out she learned some neat tricks from Hungarian mates in the schoolyard.
Another difference — here I read the comments on most front page posts. Firepups are like a big extended family. Other blogs, I just read the posts and rarely the comments.
He was one of Clinton’s asshats responsible for exporting the US manufacturing base overseas.
The problem with the “moderators” at Huffington Post is that they are extremely biased and though there are stated rules, they never follow them. There is no detectable pattern or reason to HuffPo moderation. A comment will get pulled from one thread while an identicle comment will stay up on another.
As somebody said the other day we’re an older demo than most blogs. Have more life experience and not as self-centered or narrow-minded.
LOL!! I said that!
That doesn’t mean that everything he says is hogwash.
Matter o’ fact it was you.
That Google exec who was “detained” in Egypt is being released.
Google Executive Emerges as Key Figure in Revolt (WSJ)
Off to the vet with Kismet.
Be good to yourselves, and all other living things
I was not, however, the one who said we ought to chat about menopause on a Saturday PUAC. (That may have been demi…)
I would bet that some of the mods have blacklists. And if you are on one of those lists, then you almost cannot post during the hours of the day when those mods are working.
Yes, I call them “adults”.
Yep. I believe that too. Sometimes the most innocuous comment will be automatically modded and will either never get posted or posted so much later than it was made as to make conversation possible. Their “user moderation” system is just ripe for that kind of thing. I don’t see it getting any better under aol either. I’ll bet anything it becomes a haven for wingnuts, like yahoo comments.
Just sayin’, he’s not to be trusted.
As I said, I usually read very few of the comment threads at any other blog. At some blogs, the commenters spend lots of time dissing each other and not much time discussing the topic at hand.
Here, freed of that, I read and learn a LOT from the commenters, who are often much more knowledgeable than I am. Interestingly, it makes ME much more knowledgeable around family and friends because I’m up to speed about current events and politics. I had to explain ‘single payer’ to a former work colleague the other day on Facebook. He’s pretty smart, so it surprised me that he was unfamiliar with the meaning, and then thought it would mean he couldn’t keep his doctor or be sure of getting good care.
The lesson in that I think is that we assume the public is much better informed than they actually are. The environment here becomes our “normal” and we don’t realize that it’s not!
While Reich was Clinton’s Secretary of Labor, he actually fought against the destroying of jobs.
I think you keep confusing Reich with Robert Rubin, Clinton’s Treasury Secretary who was the bankster and cheerleader for NAFTA and other job destroying efforts
It has one huge advantage: It keeps the troll population down. When they can’t get gratification from ad hominem attacks and personal insults, they soon move on.
Hope Kismet is okay SD!
FDR died, after 12 years as Prez, at age 63 in 1945. 1 minute he was here and the next he was gone. Reagan became Prez when he was just 17 days short of 70 and lived a long time as less than a vegetable after leaving office. Reagan died just yesterday. There were only 7 years between Reagan’s death and his centennial. There were 37 years between FDR’s death and his centennial.
Although it is funny that people watched Fox because it was a really, really, important football game.
I don’t agree that someone who took a position or action long ago is “not to be trusted” to comment on other topics. And you quote something from 2006? C’mon, ghost…
Thanks, I stand corrected, I had the two confused.
A tight schedule prevents the ability to read everything, hence the need to filter the more reliable from the less reliable reading material.
HuffPo went bad during the primaries, when it was insanely gamed for Obama. The same thing happened at Kos, BuzzFlash, and Democratic Underground.
Now maybe you’ll read him with a more open mind. He had Krugman are the only non banker economists that get any column space.
Well, “”not to be trusted” to comment” is rather vague. I have to agree with ghost. While Reich is much more reasonable and affable than most people in Democratic Party, the fact is he was dead wrong about globalization and that has done enormous damage to this country. I think that is pretty clearly sufficient reason to treat his writings with extra skepticism. Our problems are too great anymore for us to take seriously those who have been massively wrong in the past. Especially when they have not even admitted that they were wrong.
I am now retired so I don’t have a tight schedule any longer. But I only have so much capacity in the gray matter, and I do have other activities and interests. I can trust the reliability of a commenter or blogger even if I don’t agree with every viewpoint or position.
I fear that sometimes we at the Lake become an echo chamber. It helps to get other points of view.
Oh yeah! Good morning, demi! I wanted to ask if anything has happened yet with regard to that job interview you had last week?
Yes, all blogs suffer from the echo chamber effect to some extent. It is unhealthy to spend too much time on any one blog. And there is no blog that does everything well. I like the community at FDL perhaps better than elsewhere. But if you want to know just how badly the bankers are raping the country, you will do much better at zerohedge for example.
HuffPost has never rally been good. I lookedat it a few times and found it full of noise to the point of getting a headache. It was started for the soul purpose of making Arianna and those associated with her wealthy. Thats it. And obviously it succeeded. They realized in order to do that they would have to throw alot of junk content on to it. Techcrunch was also recently sold to AOL and is a similir site geared towards techies like myself. Its been around for a number of years and got progressively worse over time with alot of articles being more about getting traffic then actually quality content.
I dont know about the moderation on there but frankly the moderation on this site is nothing to write home about. It seems to have no rhyme or reason to it and is full of hypocrisy.
Oh Arianna has also become part of the Dem elite who sit around all day kissing each others ass as they are all becoming rich off the backs of the supporters who are being driven into the streets with the Dems terrible policies.
What happened was this: nothing. I think I mentioned that Everyone there was like twenty something and on the low end too, so I guess I’m not surprised. But, sheesh. Oh, well. It’s a new week. On the bright side, I have plenty of time to think about menopause. Ha.
Sorry, I’m afraid I don’t get your point. Can you clarify the comparison between FDR’s death and Reagan’s (who didn’t die yesterday) and people watching football on Fox? I’m baffled.
Thanks for the correction earlier on Arianna and I especially want to thank you for the Hedges link.I have got to pick up his book.
I learn so much here as well, Ms. Molly. A real nice group of adults we have nurtured here.*g*
“Junk content” sums it up perfectly. Don’t you love those slide shows? Ten cities that look good at night! Or: Ten island cities! (They included Crete in that one. Maybe AOL can afford a few fact checkers.)
I guess I missed your follow-up comments. That’s too bad, you seemed very hopeful about it. Sorry it didn’t work out.
Oh Arianna is a definitely a founding member of the veal pen. I never read anything she writes anymore. One of the reasons I have so little respect for conservatives is that, as a group, they are some of the laziest, most simplistic thinkers there are but partisan Democrats are just the same. When just calling yourself a “Democrat” means that you should always be praised and defended, you’ve moved into an area I won;t follow.
Yup. I don’t agree with everyone here every time, and I do think a few of us tend to go overboard trashing Obama (I’m not happy with him either), but in general the discussion here is civil and educational (and sometimes silly and fun). And I enjoy getting to “know” other commenters, even virtually!
I’m sorry demi. I run into that age thing all the time. I interview with somebody my age and they wind up hiring somebody 20 years younger.
It just means that there is something better out there. It may sound like sour grapes, but Who Needs That Stinking Stupid Job Anyway? *g*
I am comparing 37 years between FDR’s death and centennial to 7 years between RWR’s death and centennial.
Libs and progs hate Fox. We should boycott it. Will between 3:30 and 5 AM ET be convenient for you?
What’s the point of the number of years between the two presidents’ deaths and their centennials? Is the point that FDR died comparatively young? And what does that have to do with boycotting Fox? Which I do, by the way.
I’m not trying to be confrontational, I just don’t get it. Maybe I’m just more dense than usual this morning.
I’m sorry I must be obtuse this morning because I’m still not getting FDR dying at 63 + RWR dying at 93 = boycott football on FOX. I didn’t watch because I hate football and though I’m not a fan of FOX, they are really no different than CBS, ABC or NBC and rather better than UPN. It’s FOX “News” I avoid.
As a matter of fact, I did watch the game yesterday. I never watch the news on Fox, though. I don’t usually watch football either, but my 23 year old invited 3 friends over for a party, of sorts. It was fine. A little diversion. Something different.
Love it! LOL!
The sad thing is that dems/progressives are becoming more and more like conservative supporters. They just buy into whatever garbage the veal pen tells them to believe in. Oh they may know its stupid or corrupt or wrong but they do little if anything about it except maybe bitch and moan.
The point is that Reagan is much fresher in our memories today than Roosevelt was in 1982 because Reagan lived to within 7 years of his centennial and Roosevelt had died 37 years before his centennial.
And that equals don’t watch football on FOX. Of course. How could I be so stupid…?
This is to Margaret, also. Comment 77 was directed to you and Margaret.
There is much tearing of hair and beating of breasts on this site about Fox and/or Sarah Palin.
I wonder how much money Fox made yesterday? I wonder what they will do with the money?
I wonder where the idea for a RWR remembrance at yesterday’s game came from? It’s plain political indoctrination.
There is a scene in a Hitchcock movie, I believe it is “Rear Window,” involving a husband and his wife, who is a quidnunc, a busybody. She is forever commenting on the neighbors’ activities. She says she can’t look, whatever the neighbors are doing is so unseemly. He tells her “Force yourself.”
I can’t watch Fox. I won’t watch Fox. I refuse to watch Fox. Unless it’s something absolutely necessary, and essential, and exciting, like “24,” or the Superbowl.
I’m not necessarily saying this applies to you and/or Margaret, but it does apply to some here: Force yourself to watch Fox and/or talk about Sarah Palin.
I certainly “got” your point but would argue that FDR’s memory was venerated long after his death in working class homes,
in union halls,
in Democratic political lore(pre-Clinton),
and by my Republican Grandfather who never accepted government aid on the farm but admitted Social Security was great.
Unless it’s something absolutely necessary, and essential, and exciting, like “24,” or the Superbowl.
“24″ was a reichwingers dream show, extreme graphic violence against individuals of Arab or Middle East descent who were always bad guys plotting to blow up America. Violence and fear, fear, fear. The first couple of seasons were OK, but after that I bailed out. And I hate football.
And the more anyone talks about that nitwit, Sarah Palin, the more credence she gains. I am all for ignoring her completely. She doesn’t deserve a moment of thought or a word of print.
No surprise there. She was formerly a Republican. Once a Republican, always one, apparently.
You mean the wounds from Reagan are still fresh.
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Several years ago my cousin and I talked about the Republican Democrats who regularly screwed over the party and we thought the party would be well rid of the saboteurs and fifth columnists, who made Dems look muddled and weak and shifty. (Of course, some Democrats are muddled and weak and shift, but that’s another issue.) If the Republicans want the backstabbers who vote whatever benefits them as they see it, welcome to them and may the (perfidy) force be with them.
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