[Ed. note: Live updates appear at the bottom of this post.]
The streets of Egypt this “Angry Friday” are filled with people and police – tear gas and smoke.
Al Jazeera is reporting live – and you can view it at live streaming here http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/ or via Livestation.
Al Jazeera is reporting that protesters have taken control of the main square in Suez.
Ben Wedeman of CNN reports via twitter:
Madness in central Cairo. Tear gas everywhere police truck drives on 6 October Bridge randomly firing tear gas at point blank range
Massive cloud of tear gas at Zamalek end of 6 October Bridge..into the Nile. Protesters continue to chant “Down Down Mubarak.
ElBaradei has taken refuge in a mosque: http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/news/breaking-police-clash-elbaradei-crowd
The departure of Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak’s regime is “imminent,” said prominent opposition figure Mohamed ElBaradei minutes after a crowd of protesters pulled him to safety inside a mosque today while thousands protested outside in the face of police who shot tear gas, water, red burning liquid and drove their vehicles into the crowd.
“This kind of violence will be counterproductive, and it will backfire in their face, if not today, tomorrow,” said ElBaradei, his clothes soaking and his mouth and nose covered with a blue mask to protect from the gas.
“I used to call for a transitional period by peaceful and democratic methods, but the regime is closing that door. I have no doubt that the people will win.”
From the Guardian live reports:
Peter Beaumont reports on a pitched battle between police and protesters on the Kassr Nile bridge. “It is white with gas, but the protesters are pushing the police back,” he says. Like Jack Shenker and Human Rights Watch, Peter has also seen signs of protesters trying persuade police to join them.
Al Masry Al Youm reports:
Police reportedly refused orders to throw tear gas at protesters in Alexandria.
As you watch the news from today, be wary of claims of violence by the protesters. Egyptian official media was beginning last night to claim that the protests were infiltrated by “extremists” (no link possible to Al Ahram due to internet shut down) and a reporter for Al Jazeera noted last night that:
But already I have started getting reports from citizen journalists that government-hired thugs will make sure that nothing about tomorrow is peaceful. They say that in several low-income parts of Cairo and Alexandria, government-hired thugs were seen to be splashing petroleum over parked cars. This to prepare for protests in which they’ll light vehicles on fire when the time is right for them.
They’ve also heard rumours that the intelligence services will release a separate group of thugs under the name Akhwan al- Haq, or Brothers of Truth, a trumped-up extremist group, that will charge through the streets with swords and caustic acid to splash on the protesters — thus placing all the blame of a peaceful uprising gone violent on a certain kind of Islamic extremism.
Similar reports of Mubarak sponsored thugs starting fires and spreading petrol have been circulating on twitter and blogs. . . .
While events in Tunisia clearly inspired the Egyptian uprising, this movement has been brewing for quite a while and the murder of Khaled Said last spring is seen by many Egyptians as a turning point. This video tells more:And what is the size of the “police” force Mubarak has at his disposal?
The number of police personnel rose from 150,000 in 1974 to more than a million in 2002. Its percentage of state employment, meanwhile, rose from 9 to 21 percent during the same period, notes Soliman.
[In 2009] the Egyptian Interior Ministry commanded 1.7 million employees, including 850,000 policemen and interior ministry staff; 450,000 Central Security Force troops; and 400,000 secret police…
Along with his comments on Bradley Manning, guess what else DoD spokesman Geoff Morrell told us Wednesday:
…But we actually this week are hosting senior Egyptian military leaders at the Pentagon for our annual bilateral defense talks, referred to at the Military Cooperation Committee, which is chaired jointly by Assistant Secretary of Defense Sandy Vershbow and Lieutenant General Sami Anan, the chief of staff of the Egyptian armed forces. So that’s just an example of how engaged we are with the Egyptians, even as these developments have taken place on the streets in Cairo and elsewhere…
So just what has the Obama administration’s engagement with Egypt been like? Let’s look at the aid we provide – a very concrete measurement.
Since its 1979 peace deal with Israel, Egypt has become the biggest recipient of US military aid after Tel Aviv, receiving nearly $36 billion in military assistance in annual installments of $1.3 billion.
From 4/19/2010 on Obama’s cuts to non-military aid:
The reductions were as much as 50 percent, said the report, which drew criticism that President Barack Obama is easing off pressure on President Hosni Mubarak in return for his support of US foreign policy in the Middle East and the peace process with Israel.
Current US aid to Egypt stands at US$1.55 billion, of which US$250 million is for non-military purposes.
Let’s see – that leaves $1.3 billion for Mubarak in military aid -– like all those tear gas canisters and bullets.
And don’t forget part of that $250 million goes to support the “Qualified Industrial Zones,” factory zones producing products for markets like the US – where the US Department of State is proud to note 10.5% of the inputs of these products originate from Israel.
Please make calls today to the White House and the Egyptian Embassy -– demand safety for the protesters and an end to military funding to Mubarak.
White House 202-456-1111,
Egyptian Embassy 202-895-5400
Updates:
9:43 EST – Egyptian State TV – and now MSNBC – are reporting that ElBaradei is under house arrest while Al Masry is reporting he has been told by police he is not allowed to leave the mosque where he is sheltering.
9:51 EST – We are all Khalid Said is reporting:
Alexandria, Suez, Damanhour, Monoufeya centers are under protesters control.
Protests start in the tourist resourt Hurghada and the nice bit: Foreigners and tourists are joining protesters in the streets calling on Mubarak to go… :-) …
That’s a physical international support.
While reporter on Al Jazeera reports from Alexandria:
I can see policemen running away of Zuez with thousands of protesters in the middle of the city are in full control on everything including police cars.
CNN crew had camera seized by Egyptian police and four French journalists have been held by police.
10:08 EST Al Jazeera shows people cheering the arrival of an army truck – “there’s a great deal of animostity to police security forces” but not towards the army. Crowds have been calling for the army to “come and protect us” Unclear yet what the army will do.
Reporter with ElBaradei says police cordoned off the mosque so people could not leave and fired tear gas at the people. Mosque was under siege for several hours and there were injuries.
10:25 EST CNN confirms the military has been called in and are on the streets of Cairo.
Notice – no word from the White House except that Obama has asked for frequent briefings.
10:30 EST Al Jazeera has just reported that Egyptian State media has announced there is a curfew beginning in 30 minutes. That is 6PM Cairo time.
The Guardian reports:
3.12pm: Following up from the previous update, al-Jazeera just showed pictures of protesters jumping and cheering beside what appeared to be an army armoured vehicle in Cairo with the occupants in the vehicle not responding in any kind of negative fashion. It’s too early to get carried away but al-Jazeera was suggesting this could be a sign that the army’s allegiance is with the people.
Let’s just hope the hopes of the people are not misplaced.3.05pm: in Cairo are calling for the army to side with them against the police, Reuters reports:
Egyptian protesters in Cairo chanted slogans calling for the army to support them, complaining of police violence during clashes on Friday in which security forces fired teargas and rubber bullets. “Where is the army? Come and see what the police is doing to us. We want the army. We want the army,” the protesters in one area of central Cairo shouted, shortly before police fired teargas on them.
Al Jazeera commenters note that the arrival of the military on the streets of Cairo is very worrying while CNN is showing what looks like a disabled army vehicle. Ben Wedeman is live on CNN saying the protesters have been peaceful by and large, chanting and singing then set upon by police and that some protesters then respond. “The great majority of the protesters are peaceful.”
Al Jazeera announces that Egyptian State media has announced there is a curfew beginning in 30 minutes.
10:35 EST State Security has entered the building where AL Jazeera is located – concern they may try to halt the live feeds from Cairo.
At the same time, Al Jazeera shows protesters performing evening prayers on the streets of Cairo.
10:42 EST Mubarak expected to make a statement in a few minutes.
Al Jazeera Cairo is still on air but security is still in building -
10:45 EST also reporting increasing numbers of police arriving on the October 6 bridge, a major protest location. Concern that things will get very bad as curfew goes into effect in 15 minutes.
10:54 EST US State Dept statement via Twitter: @pjcrowley
Events unfolding in #Egypt are of deep concern. Fundamental rights must be respected, violence avoided and open communications allowed.
Al Jazeera in Cairo – police knocking on door, so far still on air live.
11:05 EST- Al Jazeera is reporting large crowd moving towards the bridge, scenes of protester dancing on top of a police van on the bridge – clearly the curfew is being ignored.
Al Jazeera being told to stop showing scenes of protest but as of now still on live.
Still waiting for Mubarak to speak – and to see what military does as night falls.
11:15 EST AL Jazeera reporter in Alexandria – On highway people were trying to rush home for the curfew but now in the streets, people are marching defiantly – the chants are immensely loud and strong that she’s broadcasting.
Police van on fire on October 6 bridge – reports that military may replace the police, reported moving into Suez – reporter saw 5 tanks moving towards center of Suez. Suez Al Jazeera reported said people defeated police in minutes, state security clearly unable to contain protesters earlier – now the tanks come in. Total blackout on technology so cannot send pictures.
Reports that tear gas firing has resumed and protests heading towards Liberation Square.
Al Jazeera Reporter in Cairo – cloud of smoke they believe coming from NDP headquarters – that’s Mubarak’s party HQ.
11:30 EST Gunfire – burst of massive explosions heard on Al Jazeera Cairo, helicopters overhead but loud chants of protesters still clear over the gunfire. The chants just seem to be getting louder.
11:37 EST Smoke is billowing around NDP HQ, sounds of chants keep getting louder. Heavy gunfire towards center of city.
Still now word from White House – CNN reported Obama being briefed frequently and “received a special memo” but no statement.
11:50 EST 11:45 EST Reuters reports people are climbing onto tanks and Peter Beaumont of the Guardian reports tanks on streets of Cairo but says “unclear whose side they are on”
CNN thinks it is news that Robert Gibbs at WH is retweeting his message last night of “concern” for rights of the people in Egypt – this is the same he sent last night.
“Very concerned about violence in Egypt – government must respect the rights of the Egyptian people & turn on social networking and internet”
Al Jazeera reports protesters lining up for final evening prayer in the streets.
Noon EST oon – As protesters finish prayer, they resume demonstrations and tear gas is shot at them.
No sign police are present according to Al Jazeera – this section of Cairo seems to belong to the protesters but gunfire is still heard sporadically.
Al Jazeera says Army opened fire when protesters climbed onto tanks. No word of casualties yet.
12:15 EST Sec of State Clinton: We continue to monitor the situation carefully and are deeply concerned by the violence of the security forces and call on the government to rein in the security forces. Calls on protesters to be peaceful as well. Calls for end to internet blackout Protests prove there are deep grievances and violence will not make greivances go away. As a partner, we strongly believe the Egyptian government must begin immediately social, economic reforms. We want to partner with the Egyptian people and their government. Leaders need to respond to people’s aspirations. (paraphrased broadly)
As Al Jazeera says this is mild public language.
CNN has scenes of protesters encircling an army truck but not attacking it – they are asking for protection of the army.
12:30 EST Reports coming in from cities across Egypt, massive demonstrations in each. Army deployed but still uncertainty of what they will do.
Protesters have attempted to seize the Foreign Minitry building – no confirmation of result yet. Gunfire heard.
12:45 From Twitter:
Al Arabiya breaking: Protestors are demanding that the Egyptian Army back their cause. Chants of “We will go hand in hand”
The curfew has been announced now for the whole country – but by all reports, more people are heading into the streets as the police seem incapable of enforcing it
Meanwhile unconfirmed reports like this circulate:
@alaa Alaa Abd El Fattah
an agent of the police infiltrated the protest and incited protesters into a fight my mom tried to intervene and then disappeared #Jan25
Unconfirmed reports of fights between military and police according to Al Jazeera now. Military are moving toward Ministry of Defense and Radio and Television Building – no word yet of their plans as those locations are site of massive protests. Egyptians flags seen being waved by soldiers.
12:48 ESTCNN reporting from the Information Ministry building that there are chants of “the Military and the People are one” and the military officers speaking calmly with them’
12:52 ESTFrom the Guardian:
The latest from Alexandria from Peter Bouckaert, of Human Rights Watch:
The army has deployed in Alexandria but atmosphere is calm. Soldiers are talking to protestors. Confirmed that Alexandria governorate and many police stations burned down.
1:15 EST
As demonstrations continue, Al Masry Al Youm reports:
Witnesses saw demonstrators cleaning up the streets of Downtown which were filled with stones, papers and fire remnants.
From Alexandria reports people have warmly greeted the military.
Rumours the Israeli Cairo embassy evacuated via helicopter are circulating.
Muslim Brotherhood who stress they are “not not leading the demonstrations, only participating as part of Egyptian people” on US response:
US in denial! Clinton still betting on Mubarak to reform instead of stepping down
Guardian quotes AP report that Obama has convened his national security team.
1:35 EST Al Jazeera is now showing stunning video of protesters in Cairo greeting the military in their tanks – and soldiers waving Egyptian flags in response. From their vantage point in Cairo, the streets are quieting down but flow with traffic.
Reuters now reporting that protests happened in Jordan as well.
Islamists, leftists and trade unionists gathered in central Amman Friday for the latest protest to demand political change and wider freedoms.
A crowd of at least 3,000 chanted: “We want change.”
Reports circulating that Mubarak will not speak live now, will tape a statement or may not do a speech at all. Hmmm….
3:00PM EST I will be signing off for a few hours but back this evening with more on today’s events. Thanks to everyone for following along and sharing the amazing news.
One last piece of news, this from Al Jazeera’s liveblog:
Time magazine’s Karl Vick pulls in the first reaction from Israel that’s not a “no comment.” A minister in Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu’s government tells Vick that Israel believes Egypt’s security forces will be able to suppress the protesters. “We believe that Egypt is going to overcome the current wave of demonstrations, but we have to look to the future,” he said. While it would be better if Egypt were a democracy, since “democracies do not initiate wars,” the minister said, “I’m not sure the time is right for the Arab region to go through the democratic process.”
It looks to me like neither the US nor Israel will decide what happens next. The Egyptian people want to chose for themselves. Let’s pray they have the chance.
The best continuing source of reliable information has been the Al Jazeera live stream at http://www.livestation.com/ as well as Al Jazeera’s liveblog where they are also posting video clips and amazing photos.
On Twitter, following #Jan25 will give you updates but remember that Egyptians are blocked from accessing it.
[Image credit: http://www.artificialeyes.tv/blog/2#]



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If the reports about el Baradei’s house arrest are correct, it means Burma’s Nobel Peace laureate Aung San Suu Kyi is free at the moment, but our ally Egypt’s Nobel Peace laureate is under arrest.
“Pan-Arab news network Al-Arabiya is reporting that some Egyptian policemen are refusing to obey orders to clamp down on the protesters and that some police men have defected and joined the demonstrators.”
Yes!
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/babylonbeyond/2011/01/jordanyemen-protests-friday-prayers-anti-government-anger-corruption-poverty-unemployment.html
I don’t think they will back down. El Baradei is right.
When govt. panic they fall.
the Egyptian govt. over reach, will lead to their down fall.
by the way GOVTS. were overthrown before the internet.
Everyone watch closely and take notes.
The USA doesn’t need a “Sputnik moment”, the USA needs a “Cairo moment”.
Siun,
Thanks for keeping us informed. I’ve already seen the broadcast news this morning and they are stating violence, etc. They are also promoting the theme that this uprising is coming from radical Islamist such as those terrorist types. Of course, we know better here at FDL, but Americans are being fed that propaganda.
Agreed!
Hmmm…I hope she stays free and doesn’t get re-arrested for fear of revolt spreading worldwide…it could spread all over the place..it’s a high-energy mass event broadcast everywhere (except in Egypt).
I’m updating as news comes in from many sources – key at the moment is now what the army does as they are deployed into Cairo
Live streaming at Al Jazeera is very good with solid commentary.
Yeah, they’ll be thinking that AQ is taking over the world…again..and again…they probably have nukes, etc., which they probably do.
That is why it is important to note that they are Egyptian not Arabs.
CNN reporting Egypt’s military on the streets. The same military we pay for.
Thanks Siun. Currently at work and can’t watch Al Jazeera. Your reporting is most welcome.
Yep. But you won’t hear the bobbleheads say that unless we force them to.
Bit of a drive-by. Thanks, Siun, for the updates.
Clearly, some police are finding their humanity; as you say, the question, now, at this moment, is whether some in the the military might find theirs.
Lots of chickens comin’ home to roost … does America yet hear those bells awarning?
DW
I’m guessing that the arrest of el Baradei means the Egyptian people have won. Now it is only a matter of time before the government falls, and not much time, either.
CNN
Richard Engel…as violence intensified more Islamic nature…people shouting allah akbar (or whatever it is)…see I knew they’d start the AQ stuff….aholes.
This reporting gives the lie to Islam being an inhuman religion.
Both sides took a break at 17.30 hours Cairo time so that the demonstrators could do their evening prayers.
Fighting just stopped while the demonstrators prayed bowing down towards Mecca.
You’re kidding me, right?
Calling out that God is great is al-Qaeda stuff?
If you’re the one calling these people a**holes, maybe you should look in the mirror.
Engel is there to make sure that NBC can get the pictures of provocateur-set fires out to the west to paint the demonstrators as violent.
No. I’m writing what Engel is saying on CNN. The way it is being reported to the American audience has the trigger words that invoke memories of AQ..I’m saying that CNN are aholes. Chill out.
Only minutes ago Al Jazeera showed the protesters stop and do prayers (people kneel on the ground and foreheads touch the ground).
I hope you’re right. It depends on how hard Mubarak is willing to come down. There’s no doubt he CAN crush this, but is he willing to go that far? I think it would take three days of live ammunition and several thousand deaths to stop this now.
It reads like he’s lost (or is losing) the support of the police and the army. If that happens, he’d better hope Israel lets his private jet cross their airspace on the way to Saudi Arabia.
Boxturtle (And I hope the Egyptians don’t end up with somebody worse)
Siun deserves a Pulitzer Prize for her ME reporting. Seriously.
Protester shot by police
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1351314/Egypt-protests-Government-shuts-internet-ahead-biggest-demonstrations-yet.html
That the people in the streets are largely peaceful indicates how wide the support is for reform. Now, if the military really joins the people…
Egypt is diverse in religion, just as we are. Why are they not reporting on the Christians, Jews, Hindu, etc. is showing how US news is spreading propaganda at us. I don’t believe what they are reporting. I’d rather get my news from the updates here.
The tweets I was reading last night (link posted by Siun) indicated that the demonstrations were happening after mosque and church. That says a lot, IMO. This is a movement from the people against the regime. It does not seem religious.
CNN: Curfew 6PM until 7AM Cairo and 2 other cities
EXACTLY! Political, not religious. That is why I am angry at the Nooze reports we get here at home.
CNN: Muslim Brotherhood…bugga, bugga
Agree with you. Egypt is very diverse religiously, but of course the corporate-owned rightwing media won’t let on about this vast great “secret.” Plus I agree with your “take” that corporate-owned media will push the notion (in various ways) that this is all about Al Qaeda, fear fear fear fear the dusky Arabs, etc.
Egypt is not an Arab county.
Thanks for the excellent reporting. I do read what my local “nooz” paper has to say, but the, uh, “reporting” is pretty sparse.
Will US citizens get the hint? I’m doubtful but remain optimistic, too.
I have my concerns about what happens after the uprising. What groups are best organized to take power in a vacuum? I would hope that Egypt stays secular.
However…let the people do what they think best. The demonstrations today make it pretty clear that they wank Mubarak out.
Before American bloggers plunge in anointing ElBaradei as the new hero of Egypt because of his popularity here for the role he played at IAEA, let’s not forget he hasn’t been so anointed by the people in the streets. If he runs in an election (if the regime ever allows that)and wins, so be it. But let’s not seize on every Westernized figure who we may find appealing. Let’s wait and see who and what emerges.
Sounds like Egyptians are arabs who identify with Egypt first.
Gah. From Wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_people
Engel now reporting on MSNBC that Mubarak will address the country shortly. State department of US says protests are troubling. They have revamped their talking points to be political unrest instead of terror type.
Read last night’s comment thread. No one is annointing anyone…
Saying that Mubarak is ordering the tv cameras off while he tries to wrest control.
That does not sound good.
Just updated some more … refresh to read.
No word yet from Mubarak, curfew on but no one is going away.
Muslim Brother hood was all over twitter late last night our time – acknowledging they were ‘caught unwares’ and lagging waaaaay behind the people in momentum.
thank you Siun !
It’s going to be a long night in Egypt.
They keep reporting this a violent unrest but the feeds all say different. The people are marching and chanting, but no violence. I’m glad to read the feeds that correct the nooze.
Yeah, the trouble will come after curfew. The momentum is on the side of the people, it seems.
America comprises democracy for oil! America will not support the Egyptian people because of oil. The American government sucks the penis of corporate oil. Mubarak Step down let and democracy exist in instead of suppressing the legitimate needs of a people compromised by America’s instilled leveraged addiction to oil.
has Mrs Sadat made a public statement ? I have no clue how much influence she has with the people – but if she went off the State Department’s reservation – it could prove helpful
Ruling party headquarters building on fire.
R E V O L U T I O N
Yes
“Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will. Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them, and these will continue till they are resisted with either words or blows, or both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress.”
Frederick Douglass
Maybe we as a people regardless of your politics, need to recognize where we’re headed. Opression regardless of it’s form, is opression!
Egypt – African continent
Arabia – Asian continent
http://www.globalintegrity.org/reports/2006/egypt/facts.cfm
jesus – al Jazeera is kicking ass
Arabic is the language of Egypt. The ethnic link to Arab-ia is there.
Amazing watching this as it happens.
wow MSNBC NOW going to AJ feed
I don’t think American bloggers — let alone anyone at this site — are jumping in to anoint ElBaradei. The problem as I see it is that the opposition is still nebulous and does not have a strong presence in a few personalities that the rest of the world recognizes. ElBaradei is a name which is recognizable, his cred with IAEA fully fleshed out, making his apparent detention newsworthy.
That’s what I would encourage people to understand: newsworthy doesn’t mean anointment.
and also heartwrenching with what is clearly fire from armored vehicles in the background
They have gobbled up the riches of the country and that’s why this is happening.
Sound familiar? When is our freedom moment going to happen here? At what point do the American people, the real silent majority, the workers and middle class who have been completely fucked over by finance capital, going to say enough is enough and…both Wall Street and the centers of corrupt political power in Washington to eliminate the oligarchs?
We’re already a third world country, let’s act like one.
(Edited by Mod: please be careful not to suggest violence as a resolution to problems; try using non-violent or non-violence invoking terms.)
ooooh WH taps Gibbs to tweet that ‘Govt must turn on social networking and internet’ -
the Global Elites probably don’t share your point of view.
if Egypt falls, this means any nation in the mid-east prop up for USA benefits can fall.
the revolution is on TV! :)
I think revolutions happen before the internet :)
the people of Egypt want their nation back, good for them
The Global Elites have never shared my view. Fuck ‘em.
Clinton about to speak. Let’s see if she walks back what she said a couple days of go: “not to prevent peaceful protests or block communications, including on social media….” Well now that it has happened perhaps it would be good for our President and SOS to get on the same freaking page.
Police are taking off their badges and joining protesters, per two Twitterers (here and here).
Congressman Keith Ellison (D-MN; he represents Minneapolis) just Tweeted this:
Never mind. Gibbs just sent out the tweet to turn the networks on again. Seems they would have been on the same page 2 days ago.
Uh-oh. When the soldiers start doing the same thing it’s all over for Mubarak. he should have stepped down gracefully instead of amending the Constitution to run again last time.
LOL!
Iran must be laughing out loud also
Thank you Siun (and FDL) for your excellent reporting.
We should take heed of the power of people in the streets. No costumes needed, come as you are.
Siun, your dedication is truly admirable.
Hillary said it best, there will be a phone call at 4am, and Obama will not know what to do, so we were warn.
Now the global elites have to fear, the anger of the ARAB street spreading all over the mid-east.
Other Dictatorships prop up by the USA and Britain, in the Mid-East will fall.
We are looking at all the foolish ideas set in place after WW2, start to fall a part.
Of course the link is there…I’m just saying the majority are ethnically Egyptian which is a totally different thing. Muslim, yes. Speak Arabic, yes. But the culture is Egyptian, and they pride themselves on that and should not be referred to as Arab…that is what I’m saying…their history is totally different..Tutankhamen…
Watching CNN and these aren’t all young men. There are women and men of all ages involved. This might be the big one.
From the link I posted:
Egyptian 98%, Berber, Nubian, Bedouin, and Beja 1%, Greek, Armenian, other European (primarily Italian and French) 1%
Some of the “global elites” have enough to worry about in their own back yards!
you are all over this topic. :)
In Egypt time, the Arab influence is only a minute, Egypt is mentioned in the bible.
Egyptian are a very proud people, they should be, Egypt is the birth place of so many things.
yes they do!
CNN Bubblehead: “Ben, as we’re watching this, tell us how unusual this is to see on the streets of Cairo…”
Goddamn I hate American media
How long before the U.S. sends in Xe troops to prop up their puppet?
lol
Would like to see what’s happening in Suez, Alexandria, Cairo etc. happening on the streets of D.C., New York, Chicago……………….
they’re a little tied up in Somalia right now
Just before 17:00 GMT, Al Jazeera’s interviewee used the term “Rainbow Coalition” to describe the protesters.
All of them are truly pathetic. Millionaire hacks and shills.
fyi – Solidarity With The Egyptian People event today at Coffman Union – 1pm your time
Don’t forget Yemen, Indonesia, Afghanistan……………..
CNN stupid anchor acts like the ARMY is not made up of humans but robots who only understand the feelings of the President.
Hello, CNN bubblehead, do you think soldiers like the idea of killing their family members, country men, when they know they are right.
That was a great image, eh?
Jeremy Scahill tweet on Xe
http://twitter.com/#!/jeremyscahill/status/31028263610490881
I guess they forget that in the early days of the Russian revolution many soldiers turned their weapons on their officers rather than firing on the people.
the USA media, acts like Egypt has an elected President?
Egypt has a dictator, the people in Egypt know this fact
yes,
Cairo is on FIRE, looking at MSNBC
The corporate media has their unwritten orders to “inform” the U.S. public on what is happening and how what is happening is a direct threat to U.S. freedoms.
Hillery lip service!
Aljazeera has H. Clinton making a statement. She urges the gov’t. to allow peaceful protest. Protest underscores the deep seated problems in Egypt. Reform is absolutely critical to the well being of it’s citizens.
Oil, Black Gold, Tea?
Hillary: Concerned about violent use by government. Support universal human rights. Urge authorities to allow peaceful protests. Protesters should refrain from violence too. Deep grievances people have should be acknowledged by government. Reform essential. Gov. should engage immediately with people on reforms. Imperative for reform. We want to partner with Egyp. gov and people and respect human rights. Civil groups have ideas that would improve their countries…chance to contribute. Leaders need to respond to those aspirations..civil society as partner not threat.
Who is Hillary speaking to?
I don’t think the ARAB street listens to USA political leaders
the Dictator of Egypt needs to head to the airport and get out of dodge ASAP!
Crowd escorting military vehicle down the street..
Colombia I think…she went on to speak about miners…
As soon as his room at the D.C. Hilton is ready he’ll be on the plane.
I guess she can’t tweet Mubarak..
Violence escalating in Suez.
WOW!
the Egyptian Dictator needs to head to the air port.
He might have left the country…since he hasn’t yet spoken…stalling
Yep. Gave up on that
airknothead.Power To the Egyptian People!
things are coming undone
AJEnglish just reported automatic weapons fire in Suez…
AJ reported hearing helicopters…maybe he’s gone.
Where is ThingsComeUndone when we need him?
That would make a good slogan for the U.S. public. “Power to the American People.”
I have been watching the protests in Egypt and wondering what effect a peaceful march of all of the unemployed and under-employed (not just the lucky 9.7 percent that are still receiving benefits) would have on our government. Unemployment crosses all political lines. If 20 percent of our population marched on their city capitols across the nation at noon on a certain day, I wonder what our democratic government would do? Round us up into police vans? Beat us with batons and tear gas? What would happen if those in foreclosure and those already without a home joined us?
Spew…hahaha
Yeah, if the American people were not a bunch of overfed, deluded sheep.
If he is a smart Dictator, he would know that Dictators rise and Dictators fall, and you have to know when to fold up your tent and get out of dodge.
I’m hoping this serves as inspiration for our people…
Betcha Hosny done flown away..
Best coverage right now (aside from FDL, of course). Probably repeating from above, but for those of you that are just joining us. Al Jazeera English!
still waiting for all the gold to be loaded on to the C-30′s
Al Jazeera just flashed that Hosni is expected to address the country shortly.
If you open two windows you can do both ;)
Protesters have stormed the Foreign Ministry building…
The American security forces would use a variety of ‘non-lethal; decapacitating weapons we have brought them with taxes, including microwave energy devices, sonar weapons, and possibly drug weapons. and then round us up and place us in detention camps. The American security forces will only protect the rich, and I doubt the military would challenge them.
Hmmm…they’ve been saying that for over an hour…maybe he’s still there, or maybe he’ll speak from somewhere else. We’ll see.
Shit, I’ve got FDL, facebook, Al Jazeera, two twitter feeds, and pandora radio. That’s just on my PC. I’ve got 4 other tabs going on my phone :)
El Baradai spokesperson on with AJ
ROFL
For protesters to stop and pray despite the prospect of being fire upon by Egyptian security forces, shows a lot of resolve and discipline on their part. I did notice The Arabist mentioned plain-clothes “Arson and agents provocateurs in Central Cairo” (by Author Issandr El Amrani on January 28, 2011 at 1:48 AM).
Overfed and distracted makes them more susceptible to their own slaughter.
They’ve been taught by experts..
The rumor circulating is that these are El Baradai agents fueling the fire… figuratively and literally.
From Al Jazeera English: Thousands protest in Jordan, demanding prime minister step down.
You get the feeling that people in N. Africa and the Middle East are a bit ticked off, eh?
Thanks Siun. I really appreciate your keeping us up-to-date…
Hillary is a shiny object. JMHO
It’s goin’ viral.
Yep. Good for them. And good luck to them, too!
Me-Thinks the ARAB street has had enough.
People probably got tired of looking at the Crooked Kings, Dictators, proped up by the USA, live the good life, while they live a life of hell.
How long before Saudi Arabia explodes? The oil, the oil!!!
Yes, I agree. But that does not mean it should not be done. Imagine a nation wide reminder that the unemployed are real people. I suppose that the problem is that the intention of “peaceful protest”, which Secretary of State Clinton just said “is a right of all citizens”, would stay peaceful, or be perceived as such. Many unemployed and homeless have little left to loose, and the government certainly treats us as the forgotten masses.
Sorry for the digression, but I can not help but draw analogies to our own country in trying to understand what I am seeing.
If it were only contagious to the U.S. public. Out with the dictators, out with the oligarchs, out with the plutocrats!!!
http://www.salon.com/news/media_criticism/index.html?story=/politics/war_room/2011/01/28/cable_news_egypt
I love this. I heard Syria is having similar protests pop up in some areas. It really is spreading.
Our military would step in before that got out of hand.
Headline at Salon
“Al Jazeera’s Egypt coverage embarrasses U.S. cable news channels”
U.S. cable is not about “news” but about state approved indoctrination and propaganda
They already have plans in place in the case of such a situation arising in this country.
Yes, but the thought(crime)s of revolution and a sea-change to sanity and equity are quite infectious, aren’t they?
Does that mean they would finally pull out of Iraq and Afghanistan?
Logistically, that would be the closest troop installation to draw resources from.
This should be a lesson to American fundies that you can’t force people with 21st century technology to live under 15th century rules of social structure. But it won’t be.
I don’t understand why the protesters are welcoming the military.
To save the empire they might have to reinstate the draft. There just aren’t enough troops with a voluntary military to quell world revolution.
Not just contagious, but hopeful. Hope has been hard to come by recently.
At the moment the protesters are embracing the Army.
During the Orange Revolution in the Ukraine the people did the same thing. The military did not move on the people.
Al Jazeera:
Unconfirmed reports of Army and police clashing in Cairo. Who’s on who’s side, me wonders.
Because pissing off the Army would guarantee that they are put down hard and brutally. The reason that the head of Tunisia had to flee is because the military refused to intervene on his behalf.
reports last night of Syria trying to figure out how to shut down internet -
Any movement on the U.S. embassy?
From monasosh on twitter.
That’s what I saw. I assumed it was because of similar protests.
CNN live stream webcam here: http://www.cnn.com/video/flashLive/live.html?stream=stream3
Everyone should tweet @CNN asking the bubblehead to get a real expert on the Muslim Brotherhood instead of the OMG it’s AQ in Egypt.
It can never be overstated how little I respect and how much I loath American “news” media.
If the military joins in with the protesters it’s all over for Mubarak. Mubarak was VP when Sadat was killed by an Army assassination team during a military review.
Now would be about a good time for them to get out there and make a fool out of themselves with their walkie-talkies. lol
A great twitter find!
Yup. That’s how they like to spin all things “Arab”..
I’m wondering if they are distracting the protesters while Mubarak hits the road.
It can never be overstated how many people agree with your assessment of the U.S. “media.”
We’ll see. This is nothing short of amazing.
Got that right.
I finally got through on the White House Comment line Siun posted above. I told the nice woman who answered to ask Obama to ask Mubarek to step down. She said she’d pass on the message and wished me a good weekend.
They may have been in the military but there were first and foremost members of the Muslim Brotherhood.
The Dow is in free fall. “Our oil isn’t safe! Oh noes!”
That’s quite a coup! LOL!
h/t cbl on that one. :) She’s the twitter guru.
Shit hitteth the fan.
LOL
Maybe OBAMA will do a do over on the State of the Union this week and get it right this time.
Matters not one whit.
W is gonna say…see, we set in motion freedom, we got their hearts and minds..
Leaving on a jet plane…
If Mubarak leaves what are the chances the Saudi people will find inspiration and rise up or are they too wedded to the “royal family?”
I have to say that I am amazed at MSNBC’s coverage — they have gone full-out gangbusters on this, and they have adopted a populist line on this story.
They’ve got Juan Cole on now; also had Egyptian gov’t critic Mona Eltahaway on who labeled government squads “thugs” and expressed the need for open dialog between government and the populace — that’s pretty editorial, a line drawn in the sand.
Makes up for MSNBC’s slow start.
Very possible.
And what about FOX?
Sure sounds like a Coup..police taking off uniforms and joining the protesters…If Mubarak is still there, doubtful, he’s out of his mind.
Oh I’m sure they’re wondering why bullets haven’t started flying yet…
CNN: Rumors he may have left the country. It will be over soon.
They are reporting Limbaugh and Beck have reigned in their thugs: “The Military will not back us. No matter how many guns and bullets in our clips we cannot take on the Military and the communist.” Palin reporting, “Retreat, Retreat.” /snark
Mubarak won’t leave until his pyramid is ready.
It’s amazing watching people use twitter to communicate since the cellphones are down.
They will soon be reporting fireworks instead of guns probably.
AJEnglish reporting soldiers shaking hands with protesters, intermingling.
He’s outta there…
Haven’t checked…CNN, HLN, CNBC all discussing, CNN-US compares as it did during the Tuscon shooting developments as a laggard.
One sec, will check FOX.
Useless. Right now FOX is covering possibility that Moody’s will downgrade U.S. debt. They should be doing investigative work into Moody’s if they’re going to avoid covering Egypt.
Is anyone checking CBN?
Hillary is going to look a little silly advocating Mubarak reform things when they announce he’s out of power..while she’s talking and distracting, he’s leaving..you can be sure of that. If he’s s still there, I’m a monkey’s aunt.
Don’t get CBN here, will have to wait for feedback from somebody else.
One thing folks should watch is fuel prices, could be short-term volatility.
It wouldn’t surprise me if Things Come Undone was on the streets of Cairo today. We’re all Egyptians today.
Reuters is reporting 400 wounded in Cairo, some with bullet wounds.
Look, she cannot come out and tell Mubarak to hit the road. Think about it, give it some serious thought.
They are all but shooing him out in the politest, most diplomatic fashion, while avoiding the appearance of favoring a mob take over the country neighboring the most dangerous country in the middle east, given its nuclear arsenal.
the revolution is being televised!
good on the people of egypt!
very powerful to see policeman joining
the protestors.
Hard to say. Depends upon who goes in afterwards. Best speech she ever gave as SOS, a year ago last week. Way too many “coincidences”. “Remarks on Internet Freedom”
http://www.state.gov/secretary/rm/2010/01/135519.htm
No, I was implying that arrangements have already been made. That is what happens…same thing when Baby Doc left Haiti. The US flew him out. Yes, you are correct about the nukes. I mentioned them earlier. I do give things serious thought..most of the time :)
LS
Please folks – keep calling the White House – what happens next will be very important and Obama needs to hear that we support the people of Egypt.
I know I would be.
Comment made at The Nation today. Does it have any merit?
Why can’t we have news like AJEnglish? Where is the integrity in US MSM? These people are ruthless in their pursuit of the truth. I want them on TV here.
4 French and several other European journalists have been injured. Luckily no U.S. corporate media celebrities are threatened, because they are not on scene. Just too messy for the pampered and privileged.
Heh, I’d be there with bells on.
CNN’s Engel is there.
Kinda wish people would get to that point here already. Peacefully of course.
Can we let Obama know we support the Egyptian people but we do not support him?
from CBL on FB, CNN International is carrying the Al Jazeera English feed live.
Don’t really consider Engel a “celebrity”. Is he reporting on the street, the U.S. embassy or an undisclosed bunker?
It would make sense. I hope that’s not the case.
He always seems to appear “before” stuff happens. He was in Lebanon before the fighting. Iraq… He’s reporting from around the streets, but protected to some degree. I’ve always thought he might be CIA or something.
Clearly the USG is working to manipulate the situation. We can only hope that ElBaradei has some personal integrity, and that he will work to address the issues facing his own people, and not just for the interests of the Cabal.
Listening to Hillary again. She’s speaking directly to the security forces..not the leadership of the country, i.e. Mubarak.
The scenes of the people greeting the military are astonishing …
For non-cable viewers there is no coverage of this on the TV.
Al Jazeera Engligh live stream.
The fact that ABC, NBC, CBS, and FOX can’t interrupt The Price is Right or Regis and Kelly to tell the country what’s happening makes me sick.
I’m wondering about how this is going down in Saudi Arabia.
Do you expect the networks to break into the soaps and game shows? Better the networks “entertain” than inform.
Monasosh on Twitter.
interesting
the USG must think it is time for regime change in Egypt
BBC reports 870 wounded in Cairo so far.
Yeah, exactly — it’s right there if one is reading/listening closely enough.
The challenge now is what happens during this transition; it’s very dangerous when there’s a power vacuum. I don’t think we want to see a military-led government in the interim even if it keeps order, because removing one will be even more messy.
Their sole purpose is propaganda and indoctrination. Their game shows, thrillers, cops and robbers and reality tv, “comedies” are nothing more than masks to their true intent.
My posting my comment was essentially to make that point.
But it is worth noting that cable viewers are learning about this news.
Convenient that El Baradei happens to be on the scene.
Andrea Mitchell, acts like revolutions can not happen without Facebook, Twitter, Phones, Internet, etc.
Andrea Mitchell, I think your HUBBY helped wreck the USA
I agree. It is dangerous for sure…
I just heard on AJ that the Department of Antiquities is at risk of fire…that would be a major historical disaster!
I heard them report earlier that the military was protecting the Antiquities building and the National Museum in Cairo.
Yes, that’s how these things are sometimes planned. Very risky though.
Who might the Egyptian people want as their leader?
Twelve combat tanks now on the streets of Suez. An important strategic port. No sign of police on the street. Relative calm as the army tries to restore some order.
You know it. I know it and everyone on this site knows it but the “public” by and large still believe in the myth that the U.S. has an independent 4th Estate.
time for a new thread?
I have no idea, but El Baradei might be popular…really, I have no idea. The question will still remain…will they actually be able to choose or will someone be installed.
in grossly broad terms – the army (except for brass and some in officer corps) ARE the people – the Police represent Mubarak’s security apparatus – his SAVAK, Basiji if you will
Jordan is already seeing mass protests. It would seem to be a matter of time before the unrest spreads to Saudi Arabia.
Who is this Andrea Mitchell you speak of? Is she also known as Andrea Greenspan, wife to the Ayn Rand loving former chairman of the Fed?
The Jordanian Prime Minister is Samir Rifai who was appointed while the head of the Jordan Dubai Capital corporation according to “Samir Rifai Appointed New Prime Minister Of Jordan” (The Black Iris,” Dec. 9, 2009).
Jordan Dubai Capital was created by Dubai International Capital LLC (DIC):
(excerpt from press release, “MERLIN ENTERTAINMENTS GROUP – A NEW FORCE IN GLOBAL LEISURE 0507,” London, New York, Dubai – Tuesday 22nd May 2007: 8.30am (UK) )
MIZ GREENSPIN AN UGLY AMERICAN…inside and out
This makes my heart happy.
BTW, now getting error messages. Twitter over capacity. Try again later.
Reminiscent of Lenin being smuggled in from Finland at the appropriate moment.
I’ve got the #Jan25 on my tweetdeck and there is no way I can read that fast. Tweets are flying by in every language imaginable.
I still can’t access. It’s been about 10 minutes. Twitter won’t load.
Protesters storming the state TV.
I’m heading off for a few hours – will be back this evening with more.
Thanks all for following along – and for the tips and discussion.
Howdy Pups, SIun thanks for all this . . . thanks to someone for the AJ English link, it was ‘full’ but I got in 10 min. later.
Ghost, I think that analysis you quoted is spot phreakin on.
It’s how the elites roll . . . .
We can think now about it, as things develop, and look for indices that it IS what’s going down.
Nice catch, Ghost, thanks . . . . I would have maybe ‘felt’ that but not fully formed a thought about it . . . n there it is, fully developed and simple to read.
Best to you and yours . . . back to catching up . . .
Note, twitter is not today as useful as some sources like the Al Jazeera liveblog (linked in my last update in the post) … Egyptians are not able to tweet so the reports on twitter are not direct from the scene.
My understanding is Engel is with MSNBC?
Him and Rachel are working together on this?
Pups?
Lenin traveled from Zurich Switzerland, through Sweden and Finland arriving at Petrograd’s Finland station.
S Araibia is next
im a believer again
No, their sole purpose is to sell ad time.
Of course, that’s done by capturing audience shares, and that’s done by airing shit that people watch . . . . minor quibble, but always the money leads, the other items are below the money.
Thank you, I ws going to address that but got sidetracked.
Very similar sitch to the fall of USSR . . . . the army IS the people, aside from the security apparatus . . .
good for them!
I would not have agreed to that two days ago, but now?
Wow, Jordan . . . . anything is possible, no.
Thanks again . . .
I disagree. Their sole purpose is propaganda and indoctrination and they do that by selling advertising.
useful link:
http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/
Andrea Mitchell just call Mubarak a dictator, this is a clear sign that
regime change is underway.
The USA really hates the idea of a democratic Egypt.
USG is working overdrive to find a new USA puppet for Egypt
This always frightens ruling elites around the world. Whether it be D.C., Paris, London, Bejing, etc. it proves that ultimately the real power is with the people.
My alter ago Mike Flannigan weighs in on what’s going in Egypt and elsewhere in the Middle East and what lessons those events can impart to us here in the states. The unifying themes of joblessness and despotism are among them.
As pleased as we might be with all of this going on how pleased will we be if the next regime is a fundamentalist Islamic group? I don’t know enough about what all led up to this but the Islamic Brotherhood is often mentioned. Are they moderates or fundies? And are they powerful enough to slip in?
Just asking.
If you look at the history of the development of mass media in our country it’s business minded, to seek a profit. IF those profits diminish, and viewers diminish, it’s all of no value for propoganda, etc.
I agree in full that the media have been co-opted but they are in full part still corporate business and require both viewers and profits.
So, one could posit that while profits were the initial and sole drive, as our nation became more of a corporate fascist oligarchy then the propaganda values increased significantly.
*G*
It’s Andrea Greenspan, GREENSPAN.
Yeah. I see what you mean. I just thought that the eminence and international standing of el Baradei is such that Mubarak shot himself in the foot in having him put under house arrest. Mubarak will need both feet to make a run for it.
One of the best pictures of the day…Egyptian Christian Protesters standing ground protecting praying Muslim protesters against riot police.
Clear, concise and sensible. Thanks. I would add, however, that given today’s corporate fascist oligarchy there primary directive is now propaganda and indoctrination. If they should lose “audience” and potential revenue from advertising there is no reason to believe that the oligarchy wouldn’t come to their aid to “bail them out.”
And so what if they DO go Islamic Fundie?
It’s the choice of the people . . . do you FEAR them Islamic Fundie’s?
Yup, my bad.
I’m with you, gotta keep that fact front n center . . . she’s evil.
Aloha, Rev…
As Marcy notes in her current post, ElBaredei:
Thanks for that. I was really just asking the question, not taking any kind of position. This helps.
YVW!
But I cheat . . . journalism in jr. college = rDIO/TV.
Com Studies Major, PR Concentration, Journ Minor . .
And I had VERY liberal teachers in all cases . . . this was 70′s – 80′s.
Most of them debunked the meme of 4th Estate and warned of the dangers of ignoring the corporate ownership, n this was back in the mid 70′s!
tried on both Safari and Firefox and it has crashed the browser several times. I wonder what that’s about.
Where do you suppose Mubarek and family have gone/will go if he leaves/has left?
I’m running it in Firefox on a PC. No problems.
maybe it’s busy?
i have it on now on Firefox.
I was wondering too. France? I thought maybe Jordan, but they are having problems too. Dubai? Kuwait? Miami?
Yep.
Juan Cole made this point this AM.
Heh, without viewership (yeah, I know, not gonna happen) the bail out would have no value, either. But the concept of no viewership is a pipe dream, no matter HOW evolved our technology gets . .
I don’t watch much TV anymore, we don’t have cable for entertainment, or news.
I don’t think our household is unique in this but those like us are definitely a small minority.
The younger gens are DEFINITELY turning their backs on MSM TV/Cable for internet based news AND entertainment . . . .
Who knows what the future might portend for the unraveling of the big tube monster in our living rooms that’s led us to where we are today!
*G*
Just trying to keep MY head clear . . . so much info, so many details, domestic and foreign policy issues . . . thanks for confirming, ‘preciate it.
I have it on Chrome now but can only get the audio.
I greatly misconstrued your comment regarding Islamic Fundie’s.
My bad . . .
Siun, thank you for the live blog. Amazing watching all this pretty much real-time!
*heh* I’m only working on my second cup of coffee here in the isles… Haven’t made all my rounds…! ;-)
CNN: WH briefing soon. That might or might not shed some more light. Things do seem to be calming down.
So do the Egyptians have a better chance than the Iranians did to actually take down the govt.? I’d hate to see another replay of what happened in Iran with the following suppression.
I’m beginning to wonder. If the guy is gone, that is one thing. If the people are just calm and quiet and lose their mojo, that’s another story. Very interesting.
Just called the WH — basic message: support the Egyptian people now!
They wished me a good day.
Call, flood their lines.
I don’t think it’ll be the same outcome… Despite Mubarak’s ordering the Army to crackdown, they’re basically standing with the protesters…!
It’s the Police that are causing much of the violence….
The police are the instruments of Mubarak’s security apparatus.
I am concerned about the Museum of Antiquities,
next to the political Headquarters on fire.
wld be tragic to lose those artifacts.
I’m not that concerned. As has been observed before, Egyptians are Egyptian first and foremost, long before they are Muslim. They respect their cultural past. I don’t think they’ll be attacking any museums.
I think they were referring to the fire spreading at the ruling party headquarters that is next to the National Museum rather than a “looting.”
Al Jaseera is reporting that the protesters are protecting the museum.
Oops! Didn’t know they were in close proximity! Now I am worried. D-:)
The interesting question for modern governments is how long their economies can survive if the governing regime decides to throw the internet kill switch. In other words, have we reached the point where the internet infrastucture is too big to fail and, therefore, regime change is preferable to the loss of internet commerce?
That’s good at least.
Yes, just saw that. That’s good.
How ironic that the “demonized” Aljazeera is providing first rate coverage. Can’t say I miss David Gregory, Katie Couric or Brian Williams et al.. Just reported that a protester handed a tear gas canister marked “Made in the U.S.A.” to an Aljazeera correspondent and asked “Why does the U.S. do this to us?” Who says the U.S. doesn’t manufacture anything anymore.
can’t get a consistent feed. Starts up then goes out. The demand must be huge.
Al Jazeera shows how horrible our media is and after listening to people all day talk about this issue, Robert Gibbs is on. Show the contrast of the rest of the world and how pathetic we are. Our spokesman appears to have a brain injury where he can not speak fluently. The stammering of Gibbs, mirrors obamas’ speaking. And we the so called greatest nation of the world, have this.
I am having no problem with Al Jazeera feed. I have been listening since early today.
Thank God Al Jazeera leaves Gibbs knowing he is not worth listening to him.
so true. i’ve had al jazeera on and left
the room when gibbs was on, what a waste of breath.
Heh, AJ cut away to Gibbs and WH Presser . . . he looks totally overwhelmed and unable to do or say much with conviction . . . they must be pulling his strings a hundred ways as the admin/O/Clinton continue to ‘refine’ their dances around the Egyptian rality.
N Gibbs on short time, too . . . bet he can’t WAIT to get out of there!
He really looks completely demoralized and haggard, and not from lack of sleep . . . oh well, the NEW guy is not better, and will likely be worse, being the corporate hack he is.
LeSigh.
IMHO, those above who suggest Mubarak is on his way out of the country? I concur fully.
I wonder WHO called out the Army, cuz I doubt Mubarak is calling any shots since two days ago . . . perhaps US influences?
In any event, the Army is well respected and no where near adversarial or confrontational as Mubarak’s security apaaratchiks, so that’s a good thing.
AJ, what a standard of excellence they provide!
I’m saddened our MSM has fallen so low . . . . have been for decades now.
leSigh.
Thanks again to Siun and really, to Pups for all the updates and linkys.
The comments are incredible for the info and breadth of detail and insight into all relevant issues to this Egyptian Jasmine . . .
check out the egyptians’ blueprint for
peaceful mass action:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/27/egypt-protest-leaflets-mass-action
would be interesting to try this here.
just saying. a peaceful showing of numbers
would be powerful.
that’s just it. If you hooked into a feed early you are in. Trying now the toobs are probably overloaded.
I can’t get the feed. What are they showing?
Hooray! I thought they would…
honest, was just lurking. did press f6 key instead of f5 to refresh.
your bad feed prolly my fault. knew i’d break the internets one day. ;-)
My, my, you’re just turning into our own little H.L. Mencken, aren’t you?
Is Things of Egyptian or Arab descent? Is he/she over in the ME?