Mona Eltahawy (@monaeltahawy) has just sent:
RT @Dima_Khatib show this video to ur media & politicians http://apne.ws/hgEg4d Internet in #Egypt cut 10 min after its transmission #jan25
The video referred to is from the AP and can be viewed here – it shows an unarmed protester being shot.
CNN just interviewed a protester who described how he was arrested and seriously beaten. “Ahmed” (not his real name) went on to say:
We can’t understand how the leader of the free world is looking the other way as we call for freedom”
Perhaps Ahmed was thinking of this comment by VP Joe Biden made on PBS Newshour this evening:
Ahead of a day that could prove decisive, NewsHour host Jim Lehrer asked Biden if the time has “come for President Mubarak of Egypt to go?” Biden answered: “No. I think the time has come for President Mubarak to begin to move in the direction that – to be more responsive to some… of the needs of the people out there.”
Asked if he would characterize Mubarak as a dictator Biden responded: “Mubarak has been an ally of ours in a number of things. And he’s been very responsible on, relative to geopolitical interest in the region, the Middle East peace efforts; the actions Egypt has taken relative to normalizing relationship with – with Israel. … I would not refer to him as a dictator.”
While Obama and his administration continue to back the dictator, we can do more. Call the White House now at 202-456-1111 and keep calling.
Tomorrow there are calls for massive demonstrations in the streets throughout Egypt following Friday prayers. Not only the youth led opposition we have seen in the streets the past few days, but more organized movements such as the Muslim Brotherhood have announced their support for the planned marches and the newly returned Mohammed ElBaradei has said he and his supporters will join as well.
Along with the shutdown of the internet, reports are building that the regime is rounding up activists and leaders in advance of the marches – and the Mubarak regime has said that no protests will be allowed.
Friday’s rallies in Egypt are expected to be the biggest so far, with people being urged via internet sites to join the protests after attending prayers.
Late on Thursday, the Facebook and Twitter social websites had been disrupted along with mobile phone messaging, followed by loss of many internet services.
Associated Press news agency reported that the elite special operations counterterrorism force, which is rarely seen on the streets, had been deployed to key locations in Cairo, including Tahrir Square, where earlier protests have been held.
Egypt’s interior ministry has warned it will take “decisive measures” against the protesters.
One group in the UK managing to stay in contact with Egypt just posted:
It’s now 3 am in the morning in Egypt. Hundreds of political activists are being arrested from their homes at this moment in a very large scale operation. Almost all leaders of Muslim brotherhood are confirmed arrested. More reports that Police agents are pouring petrol in the streets of main squares to set them on fire during protest. Please act.
And Zeinobia sent the following before the blackout:
If there is a communication blackout in Egypt , plz shower the Egyptian embassies with faxes and phones , call them names
We can act – we can call on the White House (202-456-1111) to stop supporting the Mubarak regime and demand protection for the Egyptian people who are simply calling for democracy. Please call the White House now – and again tomorrow. And then call the Egyptian embassy ((202) 895-5400).



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Mahalo, Siun…! *g*
I’d posted this linky on Jane’s thread…
Egypt Shuts Down Internet And Text Messaging Ahead Of Million-Man Protests
I think we can call this a case of being told to lie to cover for the boss.
By the way, the net-savvy may still be able to access Egypt. From Twitter:
So much for the reports that Obama was backing away from Mubarak. Obama apparently held a youtube event today in which he also addressed Egypt – he repeated his bit about Mubarak and dialogue … and his concern for social media but he has said nothing about the crackdowns, arrests, killings.
The video referred to is from the AP and can be viewed here – it shows an unarmed protester being shot.
All internet and mobile communication shut down ten minutes after a video shows an unarmed person shot. Who runs Egypt’s internet? Also has the American MSM started showing the video?
Connections I’m seeing have no access at all – hence no way to reach those IP addresses.
Landlines still work so news gets out that way but of course it is slow and depends on outside contacts to spread.
sick and tired of the Bafoon Biden
Vodafone seems to have a lot of the network and there are calls to protest to them.
Police are pouring gas on the streets so they can set fires? How reliable is that source?
x2
Funny how did an African American go to Harvard and not study the history of the colonization of Africa? Support for puppet regime’s that oppressed the people was a common tactic.
One that America used in the Arab world quite well.
Definitely a company to research more and protest maybe boycott.
The leader of the largest Democracy in the world should step up. However, he is probably being coached on just the perfect nuance and words.
With so many people protesting their government, I don’t see how any other nation can support the Oppressive Government.
P-W, maybe you’ll know. Has anyone heard from Ruth Calvo?
Not sure if this is what you’re referring to, but Democracy Now has a report featuring video of Guardian reporter Jack Shenker being beaten by Egyptian police. I’m off to watch the entire thing now.
Egypt is GMT plus 3 hours, so it’s 5:45 a.m. Prayers are around 11 a.m., correct?
democracynow had an interesting playback & interview with a Guardian reporter who kept talking into his recorder as he was arrested this morning.
The friend of Mubarak is my enemy.
This video clip might be the one that led to shutting down the internet. It’s a graphic compilation from AP, including what looks like the shooting of an unarmed guy.
30 years ruling by emergency decree and fake elections just what is he then Joe? How many people killed, tortured under his rule Joe? Living standards suck people are unhappy Joe if anything you should be convincing him to leave the country and be making deals with the next puppet.
Whatcha drinking? I owe ya one.
Ruth is on a trip. She will be back soon with loads of good stuff to share.
Referring to Siun’s post.
Good question. Some sources I trust have repeated those claims and made them yesterday as well – Ben Wedeman of CNN has referenced thugs being used in his tweets too. The security forces in Egypt have been known to use thugs for operations in the past.
We don’t have for example video we can use to document it but it’s an ideal way to justify a crackdown – last night in Suez or tomorrow all over.
Same with stirring up fears of the Muslim Brotherhood here – I expect to hear more on that line tomorrow as well.
But Egypt is our partner in peace in the Middle East. Just like Israel, Saudi Arabia and now Iraq. Cracking down on people protesting for Democracy is all for the greater good.
Was she in Egypt recently?
Yeah, as he tells us to sit down and STFU!
Yep – linked above as well … those AP clips btw cycle so if you watch through the odd happy ads, there’s more to see.
I heard a rumor yesterday that the President’s son fled to London has anyone else heard that?
Prayers would normally end around 1PM Egyptian time.
I could be wrong, but I thought that was her first stop last week.
That rumour keeps circulating – started on Tuesday … but no one can confirm. More confirmable are reports that a lot of the wealthy have fled and taken their cash with them.
So much lying crap from Obama and Biden about their ongoing support of the Egyptian dictator… Undoubtedly, Obama’s CIA and NSA are working with the Egyptian dictator to try to shut down the internet social media in Egypt in a probably vain attempt to disrupt the anti-dictatorship protests. As usual the corporate USA rulers support right-wing dictators in the third world: see Honduras, Tunisia and Egypt, for example…
Dya think? /s
I wonder how many parts Biden wants to divide Egypt into.
My bold so tomorrow is going to be worse much worse and with the Brotherhood there Obama can scream terrorists! The MSM will fall in lockstep behind him and we very well might send in troops.
Does Mohammed ElBaradei have any real support? Who in Egyptian politics is acceptable to America and Israel to take over as a puppet but has any Cred with the rebels?
Woo-hoo… Rachel was all over this…! Her most poignant clip was the ‘Made in the USA’ stamp on a teargas canister…! Go USA…! 8-(
This is the real danger of Assange to them. They can’t have proof that they support dictators to get out, like any more proof is needed. Look for them to clamp down on US media reporting on this. Pro Democracy protests in Iran = trying to win their freedom while pro Democracy protests in Egypt = disruptive influences.
So that would be 2 a.m. PST, 5 a.m. EST.
Crap! (((hands on screen))) hoping Ruth is ok.
The son leaving would mean this fight is almost over but the wealthy leaving is a very good sign all by itself.
I do too. She is one extrodinary smart woman. I’m sure she understood the under currents and was able to get her pics and leave.
Wake me when its over.
Seriously, as I typed earlier, all the betting is on Mubarak being able to put down the protests.
I remember, like yesterday, that all the betting was on the USSR being able to hold together.
Keeping fingers crossed.
This is a fire hazard they could set all the cities they pour gas on the streets on fire.
It looks like this revolution will not be tweeted. Siun, is there *any* twitter feed to watch for information?
I saw the one above…is it worth embedding on a post so we can follow together?
Dunno.
And of course they’ll blame the Protesters for the fires…! 8-(
When Mubarak dies, the US’s whole charade comes tumbling down. Israel is surrounded again. Won’t be long now.
Mubarak is yet another puppet dictator duly installed by the USG. We have put well over 30 of these dictators into office (remember Batista?). How much longer is the American public going to believe the total propaganda about the US spreading “Democracy”?
Crap any bets they turn off the water pressure to the fire hydrants in the poor areas of the cities Friday?
Absolutely.
I hope people understand why I cannot stomach collaboration with a president and a party that allies itself with such hooligans and dictators. They have no morality. The bloodbath that is coming — has started — was paid for by US dollars, in large part, and the arms come from US military aid.
Can one imagine what they’d be saying if this was happening in North Korea or China?
The U.S. government supports dictators and torture regimes. What kind of a country is this?
The largest demonstration is called for tomorrow with
ElBaradei taking part. If anything happens to him, I think the entire country will explode.
What??!!!!!!!
The ‘reality-creation’ (TM) world is crumbling. Color me unsurprised.
Can’t use water to put out a diesel fire. Just spreads it.
House of cards….whole Middle East
I’d watch Mona’s – http://twitter.com/#!/monaeltahawy
She’s in NYC I believe and has very good contacts. Also some of the UK groups like the one noted above – http://www.elshaheeed.co.uk/ are getting info that seems reliable.
I’d also watch @bencnn for Ben Wedeman who seems to get how to tweet fast and says more there than on TV – he’s been quite good.
Agreed but his time is up I’m wondering who is our new puppet. If we don’t get a new puppet the CIA will try and destroy Egypt’s economy and what ever political system the rebels set up.
I’m watching Charlie Rose right now on Bloomberg. Chatter heads on the program say the Government is gearing up for the Friday protests. Maybe the protesters can think ahead and do something to keep from being shot. This is criminal on their part and the world is watching.
What will come next is scary.
Good point :)
Don’t exaggerate the ElB role. He’s an expat, with all the lack of cred that involves for locals. Why should ElB ride in on his white steed at the last moment to ‘save the day’ when he’s done nothing for Egypt all along?
very XTIAN one
Ben Wedeman of CNN gave a report on Parker/Spitzer on his arrival with a somewhat mocking inflection that he did not have ‘any grass root support’.
On that, I would imagine it would be unwise to declare so at the risk of arrest or curfew.
The people are NOT revolting for someone, they are rebelling against tyranny.
It would take more than one Prayer Day demonstration to unseat Mubarak.
All media is turned off as some have said, and I agree, there might a lot of bloodshed tomorrow..
As Frank Zappa once said, ‘It can’t happen here’.
Well Fox News is no longer the most trusted name in news so that is good news:)
I think ElBaradei is an important force – but this movement is very diverse and not specifically his “followers”
The roundup of Muslim Brotherhood leaders will create a lot of anger … and I think a key will be if people see their sons and daughters being harmed.
I also fully expect to hear more from the Corporate owned media about the Muslim Brotherhood being heavily involved. Based on the credible sources I have read, all foreign, the Muslim Brotherhood has not been involved. This is obviously a populist uprising and that’s the last thing the USG wants the American people knowing. Fear of contagion?
Thanks, Siun. I might have to start a twitter account to follow this. Currently, I’m twitter-challenged.
Because he might be the Next American Puppet?
More democracy is spread by the free flow of goods and information than can ever be spread by force. All these wars promote terror, not democracy.
Close, the afternoon jumah prayer begins at 12:08 pm in Cairo.
On Edit: Right now it’s 5:22 am in Cairo.
I disagree. It is spread by education, economic opportunity with decent wages, and communication. Communication being a true and reliable press.
ElBaradei’s role is more complex than “some expat” He was seen as providing a breakthrough model of an Egyptian in a global diplomatic role while he was at the IAEA and that gained him support. He’s also been very involved in the petition drive and has political support
I’m *not* saying he is the savior of Egypt or the leader or any such – but he is a valuable voice.
I was listening to an Egyptian protester earlier today on the BBC who said right now we just want life … then we’ll figure out what comes next. As in Tunisia, this kind of truly populist uprising is not easily controlled and forecast.
Remember you can read Twitter without an account – try the link I gave for Mona or go to http://www.twitter.com and search for #Jan25 for example.
Agreed but I do expect the American CIA to at least try and create a puppet hero.
The words America is withdrawing its support of your government could unseat Mubarak in a minute the Rebels might take months it depends on whether the Army will back him if we won’t back him. No army support it might take weeks.
You can follow the Muslim Brotherhood’s english language announcements here: http://www.ikhwanweb.com/article.php?id=27837
Of course, I assume the NSA tracks those of us who read them even more closely, eh? ;->
What the army will do is a very important question. While there have been what seem to be inaccurate reports of army involvement is putting down some of the protests – for example in Suez where the police apparently wear very similar uniforms, so far reports are that the army has been neutral …
but now reports are that Mubarak is mobilizing them. We’ll see.
Juan Williams on PBS was a great Lefty voice too until he took cash to take a dive on Fox no matter how dumb the argument Juan takes a dive 90% of the time.
Obama also great voice smarter than Juan but once in office surrenders 90% of the time.
Thanks for the flavor.
I don’t know much about ElB’s role in Egypt, so really appreciate it.
All I was trying to do was point out that someone coming in from the outside, esp someone outsiders know, should be regarded with some skepticism.
Going there now! Thanks.
Yes, I’ll be very curious to see which side the Egyptian military comes down on. Have no priors on this one, as I know NOTHING about that subject.
all the LET THEM EAT CAKE regimes are a little scared tonite methinks
What’s happening in Yemen right now? Haven’t seen anything since this morning.
Agreed – and the reactions to his arrival are clearly split. Some were calling for him to come back, seeing him as a potential globally recognized leader who could help give legitimacy to an overthrow. Others could care less. Others still are angry at him for waiting until today.
Yemen is a much harder situation. You already have two “insugencies” in place.
And – just imho – not as large an educated population with enough cohesion. You have such extreme poverty and desperate conditions that it may take more. Again, we’ll see.
Yeppers. Your summary like what I have picked up.
Having typed that, ElB calling for Mubarak to step down can’t do any harm to the ‘good guys.’
What do we know about the Egyptian army very well maybe the big question Friday. What have they done in similar past situations, Who picks the generals are they competent or cronies, who makes up the officer corps are the solders well paid are the solders recruited from the cities?
Does Egypt follow the Roman practice of not sending solders to their home towns to put down rebellions. Have they trained in urban warfare are they disciplined or will they panic like Blackwater Mercs in a crowd of shoppers?
Thanks, Siun. And thanks for keeping us posted on what going on in the ME.
Mubarak has so much of the Axis of [Genuine] Evil, i.e. US-israel-saudi-etc, heavily invested .. gah, this is completely gripping and I can’t look
I do expect American-made military-style police weapons, further repressive action and the usual .. you can totally bet our Cheney Keystone Kops CIA Blackwater Shadow Government is SRSLY on this one ..
It seems that Bibi is beginning to see the light…
Far too little, far too late…! 8-(
Regardless what they say publicly, Western leaders right now are crapping their drawers. They do not want this fire gathering steam and getting completely out of their control. Truly would hate to see this escalate into a global war, but it is highly possible if this keeps continuing as it is. The elite, and corporate leadership, have proven in the last couple years that they will not give up their money and possessions. Good luck MidEast but please don’t let this escalate much further. I would rather be civil and poor, than watch my family and neighbors die fighting the rich. The last 2 world wars did not teach the rich a damn thing. They got richer.
ROFLMAO.
Geez.
Snoopy Dance! A few less evil dictators! I hate the violence needed to get them out of office but letting them have more years to kill and torture people is worse.
OMG! Did someone give him a Laxative? His foresight is still lagging.
What you omit is that I&A have sucked all the wind out of U.S., NATO, etc. efforts to control events elsewhere in the world.
Why else would Venezuela, Brazil, Ecuador, etc. be able to get away with self-determination.
Not saying there is any guaranty that ME can follow independence footsteps. Just adding context & constraints.
Interesting, how this comes after the release a week or so ago of the Wikileaks cables confirming that Bibi and Avi planned to keep Gaza just a hair’s breadth away from starvation, contrary to what they were saying publicly.
You forgot their biggest fear…the effect of higher oil prices on the World economy if even just one oil producing Arab State falls.
Totally awesome. Will they sell us the technology?
Straws on camels’ backs.
3 cheers for chaos theory.
Said I’d change my mind when evidence presented itself. Watching these developments for that.
A-yep. We’re so strapped for warm bodies that US Navy personnel have for some years been deployed onshore as “dirt sailors” toting rifles alongside Marines and Army troops. Otherwise Bush would have found a pretext to invade Venezuela back in 2002, when the coup attempt he backed against Chavez failed.
America is at the limits of its ability to control things. We send troops to Egypt, North Korea might decide to shell South Korea again. We attack Iran Venezuela will stop selling us oil. We back the losing side in Egypt we lose access to the Suez cannel. Hugo and Castro can back more Lefties in South America. Pakistan is already an Ossama country except for the cities and Nukes.
We have more problems than we can handle.
Typical end-of-empire overreach.
We’ll see.
And it freaks me out that someone as spineless as Obama is in charge.
‘Good luck mid east’? You can’t be serious. What do you expect. This think is organic and it may get messy. 25% unemployment, there and close to that here.
I can only hope this country will get up off our lazy asses and do something.
Sarkozy threw down at jamie dimon today,
and we have a doj that won’t prosecute the people that created all of this misery…banksters.
The famous hacker group Anonymous has just announced that it is joining the Egyptian resistance and has launched “Operation Egypt”.
“Anonymous wants you to offer free access to uncensored media in your entire country,” it said in a Facebook posting.
“When you ignore this message, not only will we attack your government websites, we will also make sure that the international media see the horrid reality you impose on your people!” it said.
Here is the video announcement:
http://fedupmontrealer.blogspot.com/2011/01/anonymous-hacker-group-joins-egypt.html
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/egypt-shuts-down-internet-and-text-messaging-ahead-million-man-protests
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous_%28group%29
hope so
While I do not disagree with you, I would like to comment that El Baradei would not likely be embraced by the USG. In fact, I believed they are concerned about his possible return. Remember when he was Dir. General of IAEA and was roundly criticized by Condi Rice when he stated there was a lack of proof Iran was attempting to build a nuclear bomb?
Or words to that effect.
What is true in the most general sense is that world actors, like the ‘Arab Street’ recognize room to move that they haven’t had in the past.
Rethink the comcast deal, much? This:
now unreachable, worldwide.
bibi dug his own grave …F-him
Complete communication breakdown. Wonder if they had help doing this?
Stuxnet, you know…..
Never said that ElB was a U.S. tool. History suggests the opposite.
Just saying that U.S. lefties shouldn’t “ASSUME” he is the “savior.”
I think the Palestine Papers had more to do with it than Wiki…!
Btw, even those piddly ‘gestures’ won’t pass in the Knesset… “while ministers Benny Begin, Moshe Ya’alon, Avigdor Lieberman and Eli Yishai objected.” That’s reps from all the main Rightard bloc…! 8-(
but no dictatorial regime
Why would you say he’s spineless? He’s very good at standing up for what he wants: health insurance “reform”, no negotiating on drug prices, torturing and assassinating Americans and anyone else his mafia can catch, spying on us, destroying our economy for his campaign contributors on wall street and the banks, war and mo’ war.
What am I leaving out? Not spineless. 100% corrupt.
You’re right. HELP!
Yes and its great for Brown People every where but America they might not all win by I have hope and am Happy for them.
I like it I would rather have a Spineless person like Obama mess things up rather than have Nixon in office. I would love Bush to be in office Spineless and Stupid would increase the odds Egypt would be free. I wonder what Condi is saying about this she and Colin courted Arab dictators to go after Ossama in their countries. The dictators saw that they had our approval to really crack down just so long as all disent was called al Quiedia.
Improving living standards to prevent rebellion creating jobs why do that follow Bush’s example use terror to distract people as the rich got richer at the expense of the poor.
202 895 5400 EE Pound them!
May the beacon of democracy shed it’s light on our country also.
What other training has the Egyptian Army had at our expense?
snip
CENTCOM’s VIEW
It’s all about extremists, regardless of what the people experience.
Well, there is always the modern version of the Gutenberg printing press. All they need now is an Egyptian Paul Revere to be the “messenger of the revolution.”
I’ve been arguing against the “O is spineless” hypothesis all along. Anything but. O has strong spine wrt anything that threatens his campaign contributors.
Wikileaks and Palestine Papers are not really news to the Egyptians … perhaps more important to the youth who have led this was the killing of Khaled Said:
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/2010/0618/Beating-death-of-Egyptian-businessman-Khalid-Said-spotlights-police-brutality
http://globalvoicesonline.org/2010/06/10/egypt-khaled-said-an-emergency-murder-by-an-emergency-law/
…of their own making.
Just like the U.S.
Ok maybe he is not Spineless he is a traitor to African Americans then.
Thank you … please folks, hit those phones and plan to call first thing in the morning!
Ayatollah Khomeini spread the word via audio tapes.
Where there’s a will, there’s a way.
No urban warfare or or crowd control training so if the army gets involved I expect a big show of force tanks like China did:(
In a long line of peeps in the disadvantaged groups making it in among the PTB.
Clear as can be.
Yes, he’s a traitor – to the whole world, given his role in destabilizing the Middle East and the American and world economy with his choices. (Except that very narrow group of people who run the companies that profit from his disastorship)
COndiliar scored this necklace from the sheiks
http://tinyurl.com/64e5856
No urban warfare or or crowd control training so if the army gets involved I expect a big show of force tanks like China did:( Does anyone have access to Jane’s ranking of the world’s armies?
Amen to that! We can only hope this is a contagion that cannot be contained. Tyranny is global.
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Chicago aldermen have done time for lesser bribes.
Hillary said something about a 4am Phone call, and Obama would not be ready for it. so we were warn :)
Egypt is going to end badly.
The entire Mid-East may go up and flames.
Clinton,Bush,Obama, are not well schooled in the Art of War, you never pick a war with people who want to die, because living is hell. (Supporting Dictators because they can make a couple of bankers rich over the will of the people always ends badly)
Egypt un-employment is at record levels.
Wall Street Bankers and other Global elites think people are going to accept living a life of hell, while they live the good life! Not
Why would they fear that? Washington political cronies and hacks have got filthy rich since the Iraqistan adventure sent oil prices up, did they not? Higher the price, more they make.
While I agree that it is LONG overdue, I don’t condone a world war, and wars have started over far less things. Needlessly killing millions (which is what usually happens) doesn’t really do much. How many in the last two wars deserved to die? How many filthy rich died?
Pouting Baby is upstairs!
Late Night: Pouting Baby Doesn’t Understand Why Creepy Clarence is Allowed to Lie
I fully agree with you. What do you suppose the response will be by the US if this escalates though? Guess where most of the troops are….not very far away from all these tensions. Sure they’d find the money somewhere, they always do for wars.
True –
I doubt turning off communications will help Mubarak – Cairo is a massive rather compact city with concentrated student population areas and only a few government areas. Alexandria may not co-ordinate with Cairo but hard to see how that will affect Cairo. Cell Phone images will not get out so that may be the idea.
Mubarak’s family has left Egypt – Hillary’s advise to not turn off the Internet made sense if we were going to see an orderly transfer of power to a new CIA approved person. I’m afraid it is setting up for a great deal of violence.
It’s an awkward time for Obama, after all how can he admit that the USA policy for the past 50 years has been to support dictators and crush democratic movements all over the world. First there is the myth to protect that the USA is for democracy, which is most definitely is not, our government that is, not us, we are all for it and wish we had it. Biden is a known liar and shameless corporate toady as well as an idiot.