As a child growing up in southern Illinois, we learned a lot about the Civil War. Not just from books and movies, mind you, but from field trips and visits around the area. We visited with a woman who was 104 years old, who told us family stories of her older brothers who died in the war. We went to one of the cemeteries that claims to have the oldest Memorial Day celebration. Most memorable to me, though, were the visits to old homes that were stops on the Underground Railroad, where people put their own lives on the line to lead escaped slaves to freedom.
We learned about ordinary people, standing up and doing extraordinary things — things that changed the world.
This past week, as the Coptic Christian Church prepared to celebrate Christmas (celebrated by them and other eastern Christian churches on January 6), Islamic fundamentalist militants in Egypt threatened to carry out bomb attacks on their churches if they gathered for worship. Given similar attacks in recent months in Egypt and elsewhere in the middle east, this was no idle threat.
And the people of Egypt reacted:
Egypt’s majority Muslim population stuck to its word Thursday night. What had been a promise of solidarity to the weary Coptic community, was honoured, when thousands of Muslims showed up at Coptic Christmas eve mass services in churches around the country and at candle light vigils held outside.
From the well-known to the unknown, Muslims had offered their bodies as “human shields” for last night’s mass, making a pledge to collectively fight the threat of Islamic militants and towards an Egypt free from sectarian strife.
“We either live together, or we die together,” was the sloganeering genius of Mohamed El-Sawy, a Muslim arts tycoon whose cultural centre distributed flyers at churches in Cairo Thursday night, and who has been credited with first floating the “human shield” idea.
Among those shields were movie stars Adel Imam and Yousra, popular preacher Amr Khaled, the two sons of President Hosni Mubarak, and thousands of citizens who have said they consider the attack one on Egypt as a whole.
“This is not about us and them,” said Dalia Mustafa, a student who attended mass at Virgin Mary Church on Maraashly. “We are one. This was an attack on Egypt as a whole, and I am standing with the Copts because the only way things will change in this country is if we come together.”
Tomorrow in our worship, I’ll be praying for Mohamed El-Sawy and the people of Egypt, giving thanks for their acts of solidarity.
“We either live together, or we die together.”
When I read this, it reminded me of how a white clergy friend of mine, Robert Graetz, described his experience of the civil rights battles — literally battles for him — of the 1950s and 60s.
“We either live together, or we die together.”
Each time this gets said, each time this gets put into practice, the world changes for the better. The haters of the world may think that the silent majority around them supports their hatred, but this refrain brings them up short. “No, you and your hate don’t speak for me.” Suddenly, instead of dreaming that they are leading a vast movement, the reality of the smallness of their thinking comes crashing in on them.
“We either live together, or we die together.”
Lather, rinse, repeat. It’s how the world is changed.




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Seems like Egyptians have it all over U.S.ians, who are intent on hate & scapegoating of Muslims.
“We either live together, or we die together.”
That would be a great bumper sticker. Americans are so busy fighting each other these days. The monsters are loving it
It’s too bad that the first victims of this struggle to bring the Egyptian dictartorship down will be the Christians and Jews, but they’re the least threatening target. On top of that al Qaeda would like nothing more than to draw the US into another ground war in an Islamic country. Don’t take the bait fearless leader. Peace
I am impressed that Mubarak’s two sons participated. There may be hope yet.
One of Mubarak’s sons will be next dictator of Egypt. It’s in their own self-interest to back those being attacked in order to make war on those who want to overthrow (Islamic fundamentalists) the Murbarak family dictatorship. Peace
Good news for Egypt! This is too “Keep Egypt Clean Project مشروع الحفاظ على نظافة مصر ” Egypt is going Green!! How else will the beaches of Alexandria stay life-giving and beautiful?
This is more in line with the teachings of peace that are in the Koran. It is great to see that the masses in Egypt come together to protect their fellow citizens.
This story brought tears to my eyes.
And don’t forget that http://my.firedoglake.com/laura-doty/2010/09/21/news-of-mohammed-ibn-laith/” rel=”nofollow”>our friend Mohammed Ibn Laith was shot escorting Christians to church in Iraq
Where do you see “masses of (people) coming together in Egypt”? Peace
well done peterr, an incredibly moving event
Love and brotherhood in action.
Excellent post, Peterr.
“We either live together, or we die together.”
Yep, that’ll fit across the top of the tailgate of me truck.
I’ll be glued to Fox for their extended reporting on this. Not.
There is a sad irony between the news in this post and the news in the next post.
Thanks for this Peterr.
We’ll all die together because a large number of dumbasses won’t shake off their stupid religious superstitions. Messianic fundamentalists,jewish, christians, moslems and stupid politicians who choose to perpetuate this stupidity. These people like bush, bachmann and tele-evangelists who are telling people to wait for some rapture, because they’ve had personal conversations with god, they should all be put away in straight jackets, it’s not enough to just laugh at them, Anyone who claims to talk to zeus,venus,vishnu a burning bush or a smudge under a viaduct that looks like jesus needs psychological help,as well as the ones who listen to them!!!!.
nitpick!!