Watch live as President Obama further enshrines the wealth gap signs his GOP-inspired tax cut and stimulus plan.
I can feel my greens shooting already.
Live Video: President Signs McConnell-Obama Tax Plan |
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| By: Gregg Levine Friday December 17, 2010 1:04 pm | |
I can feel my greens shooting already.
Pelosi a “no show.”
Boehner not there either.
The Trojan condom just crossed his Rubicon.
Fuck you, Obama
The “noble experiment” is over.
Nancy where are you? laughing
Obama is talking about the CHINESE MIDDLE CLASS, he loves.
look at what Obama done for the USA middle class.
1st Obama endorses the Bush agenda of spying on and killing americans
2nd Obama attacks Unions (the F! the UAW moment screams republican)
3rd Obama double downs on Bush Wars, (now they are Obama wars)
4th Obama attacks Teacher Unions (teacher unions now hate OBAMA)
5th Obama does not attack the Banks? he bails them out? (sorta like what the GOP does)
6th Obama passes the Bob Dole Health Care Bill (Bob Dole is a republican)
7th Obama kills the Public Option
8Th Obama kills Drug Importation
9Th Obama APPOINTS an insurance executive to manage his health care Bill
10th Obama does not APPOINT Dawn Johnsen
11th Obama hand picks the cat food commission to destroy Social Security
12th Obama supports Blanche Lincoln, a candidate who hates Unions, and has no chance of winning
13 Guantanomo still open for business
14.Patriot Act renewed
15. renditions continue
16. Bernanke reappointed
17. Americans targeted for assassination
18 Obama is all for sending more USA jobs off shore
19 Obama is for tax cuts for the RICH!
20. Obama and the TSA porno Scandal
21 Obama freezes federal wages for 2 years
22. OBAMA TARP Funds for Legal Services for Foreclosure Victims Blocked By Treasury
23. Obama lowers estate tax for the rich
24. Obama tax bill of 2010 GUTS Social Security
Above is the OBAMA necklace that all DEMS will have wear in 2012
Good Luck! :)
with the Autoplay, it’s like playing whac-a-mole on the pause button every time i hit refresh…except Obama’s the mole and the goal is to shut it off before he tells a lie.
December 17, 2010. A black day in history.
why does OBAMA always intefere Dylan Ratigan show,
Obama should do this crap during the Chris Matthews show, no one cares about
O repeating, thus validating, EVERY rightwing tax meme.
*looking for airsick bag*
Thanks anyway but, don’t do any fighting for me Barak
There’s goes another big-ass pile of taxpayer dollars to the Oligarchs…
Fuckin’ criminals…
x2
OK, tax cuts for the rich bill signed. Brace yourselves for the explosion of job creation!!1!
25. Obama wants WikiLeaks Assange charged with espionage.
How do you know when the president is giving money, no bid contracts, or indentured slaves to th rich?
A. His lips are moving.
B. He’s signing something
C. Both A and B
Yeah, those bigger paychecks except for those that aren’t. Fuck you, Obama.
The tough decisions better not be food stamps, education, science, medicare and medicaid…Oh, wait I forgot you meant tough decisions for those of us that care about the American PEOPLE and not the rich corporate overloads. I keep forgetting you are the epitome of a Democrat In Name Only.
jed’s list
speaking of this:
see this: China’s Ghost Cities
Obama you are just taking a walk! look around no one is following you :)
Obama you are going to cut the deficit! after you just gave the rich a super tax cut. you are a funny dude OBAMA
It’s just like watching Bush again; every word coming out of his mouth is a lie. I can’t stand it.
thank you!
if we can’t stand to watch it, then it’s a sure bet that the village will love them some Obama for the next few news cycles. nothing beats punching hippies in their book, and this is a roundhouse gutpunch.
Very nice tally, friend. Keep that list handy for primary time.
Today is Bradley Manning’s Birthday – Donate to his Defense Here
I second the motion.
Dylan Ratigan is an asshole.
He was just talking to two idiots who want the regressive flat tax and consumption taxes while taxing energy…
You know, the things that will hurt the poor and the middle class way more than the rich.
Dylan Ratigan is still a CNBC asshole.
It’s too bad Cenk can’t replace him everyday.
F’ing criminals. I would feel sooo much better if there was something substantial I could do about this mess. Votes don’t much matter. I’m not wealthy enough to force any action. No one is willing to take to the streets with me.
I honestly never thought a Dem POTUS would be the first to knock the first brick out of the foundation of Social Security, but I just saw it with my own two eyes!
Shameful! Absolutely shameful!
Who will be our primary challenger to Obama?
We need one really darn bad!
We need a hero.
Bullshit.
Where was Nancy and Harry, Obama partners in crime?
Though it would prolly embarrass Obama and the rest of the Sociopathic Pantheon, our Senators and Representatives should well-consider simply making Gods and Godesses of them, just like the Roman Senate did, once upon a time.
Perhaps they would settle for inheritable titles? As they apparently now have tax-free transmission of “wealth” between generations.
How far America has come …
DW
Yep. Great idea, that one. Worked out well when Nixon tried a wage and price freeze, didn’t it?
Thank you for that, friend.
He is a bad man.
well, they’re the new guys on the block; get ready.
I turned him on for a Ptolemic but found them instead. funny how nobody ever mentions the 2 million a day going out of this country for the wars.
Bush cracked open the door to the Visigoths, Obama just threw it wide. Now, we get to see the Freddie Krugers’ coming in to slash everything left for the people of this country. And Obama with the republicans laid the ground work for it.
Happy fucking New Year!
U2 – Bullet The Blue Sky
This is an utter disgrace and absolutely unforgivable. But I’m nearing the point where I no longer care.
The ruling elite, Democratic and Republican, have set a course that can only result in catastrophe, economic and social.
And because the system is so corrupt and rigged and void of anything approaching representative democracy, they are unstoppable.
To add insult to injury, they cite bogus polls, proving we’re all crazy about their awful bill, when we are no such thing. There is a distinct sadistic tinge to the Obamacrats.
Freddy Kruger was just a gawdammned librul and didn’t go far enough!
We need to slash more!
This just in from the orange satan
http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2010/12/17/8750/7768/?pid=0#c68
don’t worry about people taking to the streets.
the OBAMA and Bush tax cuts are forcing people to live in the streets.
and the future outlook is bleaker!
one day, your going to go street, and see the crowd has beaten you there, because they live on the street.
Impressed that the President was able to take the early but necessary steps to finally put this country’s economy back on the right path. This should have been what his first stimulus package consisted of rather than $800 billion of pet projects. However it is indeed unfortunate that he did not have the intestinal fortitude to do away with the death tax once and for all.
Hopefully this patchwork of tax policy can be further tweaked in the coming year to create real tax reform including a much needed decrease in the corporate tax rate, the elimination of the death tax and lower individual marginal tax rates. Hopefully the new congress is willing to address the real problem in this country…spending… Tonight I’ll raise a glass and toast to a country that believes individuals can better spend their dollars than Washington.
Wait wait wait…
You mean the first stimulus that had all of those “stimulative” tax cuts…where the only jobs that were created were thanks to actual projects?
Maybe you forgot all of the useless tax cuts the republicans packed the stimulus bill with, the jobs they created in their own district but still refuse to support.
It’s fun handing out the oversized checks, but manning up and admitting it’s thanks to the stimulus is a bridge too far to the flat conservative lizard brain.
I guess they’re starting to wake up even over there. HuffPO is sorta going down the tubes.
Everytime I post something the trollies would get away with in a NY minute, it’s “comment pending approval” and then it disappears.
This is what I posted:
The day America ended:
Bullet The Blue Sky Rattle And Hum U2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGvNHH_Ebtk&feature=related
Now the Freddie Krugers of the right can come in and finish the job.
Watch Obama cave; Watch Obama cave; Watch Obama cave;
Pretty mush what I posted here
Done
Ratigan’s selling out too. now he’s got some crap about Mark Twain on there.
No matter how many bills Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi brought forth in the House (knowing that many would never make it through the Senate), this PROVED that she is neither “progressive” or even cares about the people of this country after she made sure to push for this bill. The President and Congress justified the failed policies of supply side economics. Sad day for our country.
I did the usual list of why the apologists suck and i naturally get, you’re a new user so you’re a troll.
My name there’s bankstar…..I had tried bankster but it didn’t work…
Just like WTF Inc. didn’t work here XD
Maybe Obama will institute serfdom as a compromise to selling us into sexual slavery…so we should be grateful to Neville for his great works.
You need a front loader to carry that load of horseshit, troll.
Jon Stewart said it best:
The big networks have days to spend on the beetles release on itunes (YOU CAN BUY MUSIC ONLINE!?!? OMGWTFBBQSAUCE!) and barely any stories about the 9/11 responder bill being killed.
The rich are getting richer thanks to obama and the republicans corruption? BUT MARK TWAIN!!!!
Maybe the big guys at G.E. had a “chat” with Dylan. I once heard Keith Olbermann say how hard he has to fight to state his beliefs on his show. I’m sure that’s true when you work for G.E.
Pretty good list of accomplishments for a Republican president. A sad day indeed.
Better than fox…I was offered a job there but I wouldn’t let them put a tropical parasite into my ear.
Apparently you can’t get a job there unless you accept the mind altering earwig.
The word “Bullet” got it auto-flagged. The moderators do the rest of the burying, some of whom are apparently moonlighting neo-NAZIs from the Obama and Bush administrations, based on what sticks and what doesn’t.
Emotionless, pro-establishment comments gleefully accepted there!
I’m sorry you seem to disagree. Luckily time will prove that this was a step in the right direction for the U.S. economy. As I said above hopefully the next steps involve making the United States more competitive in the fight for global investment dollars which should help spur growth in our struggling economy and put people back to work.
You mean a competative economy that doesn’t let the fortune 500 hide their money in the bahamas/carribean/switzerland/lichenstein to get off paying taxes?
An america where millionaires pay less in taxes than their employees?
Do we live in the same america? The same universe?
I once worked for a GE core company. Doctors have spent years – years! – trying to get that thing out of my ear. They tell me only one man knows how to remove it.
KAHN!!!!!!!!
Like I said…
You seem rather flush, HW, how about a contribution to Bradley Manning’s Defense – or, do you just put your mouth where YOUR money, obviously, is?
If you don’t mind my askin’?
DW
I’m assuming you are referring to capital gains and dividend income tax rates? The real travesty is that these sources of income are taxed at all. Dividends are already taxed at the corporate level and the company should be incentivizing investment, not taxing at 15%, let alone ordinary income rates.
Millionaires or minimum wage workers pay the same rates on the same sources of income. Seems fair to me.
hahahahahahaha~! Thanks, I needed that laugh.
I thought GEs 80s ceo (christ i forgot that idiots name) gave the higher ups mandated lobotomies.
I also thought fox was the only one with the hallucinatory earwig.
Ah well they want to sell us into slavery anyway so it’s an argument between going to hell and being tortured by a demon, devil or daemon.
I see your big on online snarkiness short on facts and ideas……
You have come to the wrong place if you think you are going to get away with making false claims such as that without real facts being thrown in your face.
Obama needs to give you much better talking points
No it isn’t.
The workers wage is stagnant and the executive compensation rises astronimically.
Workers make the same or even less than they did decades ago while the rich incomes shoot through the roof….
Why the hell shouldn’t they be taxed more when they’re the ones cheating the system?
So, what’s YOUR position on “enhanced interrogation”, you know, what the civilized world regards as torture, HW?
Just how happy are you?
DW
Speaking of HP, I recognize that steaming pile of horse shit being passed as a writing style. Hello Flossy. Welcome to FDL. Did the big bad meanies moderating there finally kick your sorry ass to the curb, or are you just seeking out new sites to troll for fun and profit?
I certainly hope you’re paid for making such an ass of yourself. I’d hate to think a good capitalist such as yourself would prostitute yourself for nothing.
~~~Mod Note – don’t make it personal, attack the ideas, not the commenter~~~
Oh god tweety’s talking about Obombers beatiful boyish smile and how everyone will love him for his tax cuts.
I think tweety likes Obama for his abs…it gives him that feeling in his third leg…third pinky toe.
Depends on what you say if you’re a troll. I don’t perceive you as a troll. are you?
It’s a pretty sad day when people from both political parties in a supposed “democracy” are fighting against the truth. The level of “astroturf” at the Huffington Post has become too significant to ignore. Even “moderators” there appear to be working for the Obama administration.
My thoughts exactly. Thank You
Oh, no – SD is full of great ideas AND snarkiness – a true wonder to behold. You, on the other hand, type in a manner that speaks down to people and thereby immediately pisses them off, makes them defensive. We are not idiots here. If you want idiots commenting, go to HuffPo…
you’re, not your………..just saying………….
Yup. they DID wind up posting my extreme left comment however. I was rather stunned.
I must say, I did like the little quip Biden slipped in, which was easy to miss at the beginning of the press conference he said he was glad his mother wasn’t here to see this. anybody else catch that?
I did because I’ve thought many times over the past 10 years I was glad she died before seeing what has happened to her beloved country
My first couple posts were posting as a fake rich ceo with an overinflated ego making sarcastic comments about how good I have it and **** all of you…
But that was when this stuff was uncommon…
It’s happening so often that I can’t fake that rich a hole persona anymore…
My posts went from parody/spoof to snark to depression now it’s a step away from every post being “/wrists.”
Well, now that they blew up the budget, the “serious” people in Washington can get back to screaming about the deficit.
How much less do you want the friggin’ corporate tax rate to be. A huge number of companies pay nothing… do you get that they contribute nothing for the right to function in the United States, use our services extensively, in some cases depend on our military, and very honestly treat their employees worse then practically any other western country?
This country had those damn tax rates for ten goddamn years and had the most anemic job growth since the Great Depression. Major corporations are swimming in money while small businesses are fighting to survive. They have even gamed the damn system that is supposed to point government spending to small businesses.
So why don’t you tell us what country’s tax system you think we should emulate? Who has the better system? Because frankly the western country doing the best economically is Germany that has higher corporate taxes, a better safety net and higher income taxes – not to mention real rules protecting their working class. (Oh, and some real banking regulation.)
And if your suggestion does not include a real middle class, tell us why you want that as your ideal as well.
You should have been there when they decided we weren’t getting enough done so they sent a guy from Philadelphia out to flog the managers into flogging the workers. Oddly, it was the managers themselves, along with the tireless efforts of subcontractors, who turned our project into demi-hell on earth.
He definitely had something in his ear. Or perhaps some other object up some other anatomical opening.
Wall Street: FEED ME! Sacrifice your souls to the golden calf!
Great name. Hope you’re in California.
Yeah, I really belted some guy over there saying it was all the boomers’ fault.
Most ridiculous bunch of propaganda that been going on for years.
They just want to punch us because we didn’t keep up the fight for them.
I still think taking away SS from us boomers is payback for the last generation which really fought authority in this country; some of us anyway.
When someone starts providing real facts let me know.
what to do what to do?
At this point I don’t even know anymore.
Nothing seems to work. Nothing causes the change needed.
No matter what the people want and do everything is forced through to only benefit the few.
It’s a very very depressing time to be an American citizen.
You are talking about the tax cuts that were extensions of the Bush tax cuts from ’01/’03 which lead to the worst job creation decade in the US economy since before WWII?
Those tax cuts are now going to magically start creating jobs?
Bwahahahahaha!
You’d better pass some of that smoke over this way and share mon.
Pat: Corporate middlemen are a subspecies of humans.
They eat with their anus and spew bullcrap out of their mouths.
The only tragedy when people like that are in an on the job accident is that the parts are damaged and someone has to clean up the mess.
You have to use “/s” around here. Subtle humor is oft missed on da blogs, ya know?
He’s on acid….you can tell
Is your last name AXELROD? GIBBS? JARETT? Plouffe?
you do know OBAMA hired the dummies that F Up the USA economy to fix it? Larry Summer, Geithner, are MORONS.
Does it really matter what you think? No
fact the 99ers are going to be living on MAIN STREET (record homeless in 2012)
Fact OBAMA is doing a NAFTA deal with KOREA (yes the USA needs to send more JOBS out the country during our current DEPRESSION)
Fact Obama foreclosture helps the banks more than home owners
Fact Bernake another OBAMA moron says it will be at least 5 years or more before the USA comes out of this DEPRESSION (9% un-employment in 2012, will sink OBAMA)
Fact OBAMA is a foot note this time next year! (a black candidate doing Kabuki has no future in USA politics)
Why? 23 Dem Senators want to get re-elected, and progressives will be focusing on attacking them the next 24 months, at the present time enemy number 1 for most progressives are PHONY DEMS! not tea party, not the GOP.
Fact Obama pass the BUSH TAX CUTS
Fact OBAMA pass the BOB DOLE HEALTH CARE BILL
not John McCAIN
Where was Harry and Nancy? they feel the heat coming!
I think I’m in perma snark mode.
I can see myself in a past life as a roman saying
“Oh look Nero’s boinking his relatives, killing people left and right and appointed a horse to the senate…what’s next playing the fiddle while the country burns!? HAHAHA he isn’t that bad!”
I wasn’t being snarky and your parroting of reichwing horseshit isn’t worthy of discussion, troll. xin loi
You don’t think executives add more value than a factory worker or junior accountant? Shareholders hold these executives accountable. If they believe they are overpaid they have every right and opportunity to throw them out. As far as the worker. If they don’t feel they are compensated fairly then quit. There is no right to a 50k a year job a year in this country. You need to go out an earn the career you want. That is what has gotten us to where we are today. Entitlements.
How bout:
The longest periods of sustained economic growth in this country were when the top marginal tax rates were around 90%. This forced companies to reinvest in workers because they could avoid paying the high taxes by leaving that money in their business instead of buying new expensive toys or gambling on Wallstreet/Mortgages/Derivatives/etc.
It’s always better to reinvest in business and the worker than to gamble on made up things. How you come to the conclusion that lower taxes make companies reinvest more into their business is laughable at best and disgustingly dishonest at worst.
My father, who passed away a number of years ago, was a “peace activist”… actually out in the streets with signs protesting the Vietnam War (even though he was a veteran of WWII and active in the VFW). He would have been very sad and angry to see the direction our country has taken…as have I. In some ways, I’m glad he doesn’t have to see what is happening.
Shareholders don’t.
In a large number of mega corps the board sets their own compensation.
Hell the ceo that blew up hewlett packard got a golden parachute.
They get paid millions even when they suck.
I realize that this is probably too much for you to handle. But tax cuts do not occur in a bubble. There are a number of outside influences that helped drive job numbers during the past five years. Now we are finally going to get around to addressing the real issues.
Don’t let the troll hijack the thread, please.
Who do you think votes on the board members?
Entitlement?
How about the fortune 500 members who pay 0 tax dollars.
Exxon paid 0 dollars.
How about the ceos that get canned for screwing up their companies, costing their companies thousands of jobs and gutting them…then using company money to give themselves millions without shareholders being allowed to keep that from happening.
Maybe you’re from another universe because you don’t know shit about this one.
Wow. What a load of generalities! Please explain what exact “outside influences” and what exact “real issues”. Otherwise, I’m done feeding this troll.
Good advice.
Ahh you clearly don’t understand the valuable role that wall street plays. Maybe too much time on blogs like this and not enough time in the classroom, or maybe too much time in the wrong classroom. Sustained growth is restrained growth. There is greater innovation every sif months than there was every 6 years during the 50s and 60s.
Teh stoopid it burnzzz yezzzz
*G*
I love this town!
*G*
“Ahh you clearly don’t understand the valuable role that wall street plays”
This pretty much is all i needed to hear from you. Good day sir/madam/troll
Oh please do enlighten us with your awesomeness wisdom on how the leeches on the financial world provide so very much economic value to all of us great unwashed
you win for actually being able to properly quote him. Thanks
Thread … safe, SD.
Troll … light-weight, hot air, slight odor.
All … (if ya can,) ignore wee local perturbation …
;~DW
I would rather scrap wet, smelly, gross dog shit of of both shoes than to ever listen to this Presidential GeNiUs Jackass Imbecile again.
That and it’s also an insult to the remaining members of the WWII generation.
They’re not just bashing us purist, sanctimonious hippies. They are bashing veterans.
Five things I’ve never seen America’s politicians do: bash veterans, insult the in-power party’s base, endorse torture, reject habeas corpus and assassinate Americans.
So 1930′s Germany. You’d think the Bush and Koch families were involved somehow.
Besides the key role of matching investors with those expanding firms that need capital? Without wall street there is no automobile, no television, no internet, no cell phones nothing. Not too mention the valuable risk analysis and hedging strategies that enables companies to take risks and build business and hire employees.
God please don’t wish he was in California. We have enough crazies as it is
Because business’ have been building and hiring employees over the last 15-20 years? Maybe in other countries. Certainly not in America. What country do you hail from?
I don’t know. Two foreign wars, a housing crisis and and a democratic congress unwilling to get out of their own way, or maybe get in the way. Runaway government spending.. A lot has happened in the past twelve years believe it or not.
Our project sent rats and monkeys up into orbit to learn what happens to our blood and bones in micro gravity.
I think someone measured. Just wouldn’t fit in the space allocated for the rats.
Amazing that somebody would actually come here and tout Unca Miltie’s junk economic theories. Apparently has never heard of Chile’s, Argentina’s, Poland’s or Russia’s experiences with Chicago School economics. Not worth my time with this troll.
Give them a reason to invest and create jobs in the U.S. and they will. We are creating too many sociology and political science majors and not enough people with a tangible skill set to create products and services that the world wants. Why pay double for building a product that is contruscted half as well as something abroad.
Corporations and investors have had the lowest tax rates in history over the last 30 years. I love all the job creation this produced.
A fine post, Gregg.
Timely subject (though I canna watch this cheap fabulist any longer, nor tolerated his maunderings), great comments from interesting people, all friends of mine, and a … visitation.
Much appreciation to all.
DW
Is your name BUSH
What happen in 2008? where is Washington Mutual, Lehman Brothers, Wachovia, Merrill Lynch, that is right all the smart people on WALL STREET went BROKE
ever heard of TARP
the largest company in the WORLD the FEDERAL RESERVE bail out Wall Street with our money. Exxon is not as big as the FED
Most people tend to give up when they know they’ve been bested. Enjoy your weekend.
It’s too bad that all wall street does now is speculate on derivatives.
When the derivative market collapses the world economy dies.
They make their fortunes on derivative shennanigans, set their customers up for a loss and bet against their own deals and all other kinds of things that would have gotten a man sent to prison before the 80s.
Wall street became a grifting scam in the 1980′s…probably earlier.
So it’s the worker’s fault they don’t have jobs? LoL. You are making my sides hurt from laughter. Please stop. I can’t afford to have to go to the doctors
Yet still higher than Canada, China, Russia, Switzerland, the U.K., Spain, Ireland, France and almost every other industrialized nation.
No wonder the jobs and businesses go abroad. They are treated better.
Yeah, those CDS investment vehicles really helped firms needing capital
The auto and television came to fruition during those years of sustained growth which you seem to find so abhorrent.
Cell phones and the internet were both based off products and technology initially created through funding by the Federal government
Wall St had fuck all to do with it.
Nice try, troll.
It’s is produced for less in other countries because they have no labor standards. They have slave labor at pennies to a few dollars a day. That’s the America you want to live in to be able to compete? Not I
If they don’t have or are unwilling to develop the proper skills set then yes. Why does someone have a right to a job inn this country if they are clearly unqualified?
enjoy your weekend and congrats on getting that extra 13 months. Now go out there and put some of that money to work.
Anti-sweat shop and child labor laws are just SO very inconvenient to business, we understand
Yes, this one is a genuine, low-level, Boeskybottin’ Strauss strutter, SD, pore little corporate diddle thang …
DW
True. Thank you for raising my spirits.
Have a nice weekend yourself!
Here’s a great conservative holiday idea I’m sure you’re familiar with!
Let’s just strip the wealth from the bottom 98% of poor (in $ ) American losers Tomorrow and give it those God has shone his favor, then we’ll see an economic growth tsunami by your reasoning, Right ?
Hopefully he’ll take his con job cohorts west with him into the ocean and drown the lot of them.
Or we can set them out to sea and reenact a viking funeral.
not at all. We shouldn’t be giving anyone anything. They should be earning it.
Thanks for that. Gave me a good laugh. Not the painful laugh caused by trolls
Billion Dollar Estate Tax/Generation Skipping Transfer Tax tax break for the super wealthy.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/12/17/929819/-Forbes-400-Get-Billion-Dollar-Tax-Break
This is nothing anyone on this planet can do, next to curing cancer, that deserves being paid 100s of millions of dollars a year. Nothing. Period.
Serfs ‘R’ Us
Yet you support GIVING tax breaks to the wealthy….
completely unearned.
The people the troll admires so much have no problem adding to their wealth through fraud. It’s easier than working and safer than holding up armoured cars.
Stratified aristocracy or straight out caste system FTW!
they’ll be buying armoured cars
They do get paid so every time we respond to one, we’re paying them to sit around and jack with us. that’s what’s messed up Huffpo is they let ‘em do it for the clicks.
I suggest ignoring the B*st*ard completely.
They feel all righteous now that they see themselves getting their way, so expect more of them…as well as folks who are sick of the Obamabots on HP and other places.
Even Ed is calling this a huge victory.
I missed Keith yesterday…did he and maddow call this obamas win?
Most rich people don’t have a lot of cash. Everything’s electronic. I worked with a psychiatrist whose father knew Onasis. Dr B, an Armenian, as a young man, was invited to lunch with Onasis and others once in Athens. Onasis stuck him with the bill.
You all do realize our economic dilemma has a limited solution set.
We can let the bottom fall out of property values, wages, prices and tax as little as possible. That must continue until our wages drop below the prevailing wages in Bangalore, India. At around $8000/year, more or less, we become competitive again.
Good news! The average incomes in Bangalore should rise a small amount over time! We may be stable at $9,000/year!
Yet in Bangalore there is need for outsourcing to China as some needs are better served with even less expensive labor.
We could as an alternative introduce aggressive tariffs. That will definitely piss off China and other nations and will lead to inflation. We’ll only be selling to ourselves as our goods and services will be WAY too expensive for the rest of the world to buy.
Or we could say to hell with it and dump capitalism.
NOTE: If we don’t dump capitalism, we have the nasty business of owing bankers, the Chinese and the House of Saud quite a lot of money.
The object for the government is to eliminate all entitlement programs to strip to the austerity program required by our creditors after our (prior or imminent) default on many very large loans.
Let’s think this through a bit…
Uh oh…Schultz is in apologist mode. after screaming about this for two weeks.
Funny how those multi-million dollar salaries are so fragile.
Yes, Hope springs eternal…. which is leading us to keep on believing Obama will do something……someday.
Oh, now, the turncoat Sherrod Brown.
At lest MY rep stood firm and voted against it.
PEH
Srsly???
I don’t watch him much, but just the day before yesterday he was railing against the deal.
Wow.
Now I remember why I don’t watch him much.
??
old ED, have you been drinking?
Obama is a fighter? more like a punching bag
Now Brown, who is up for re-election in 2012? acts like we are not going to do some KABUKI on him and the other 23 dem senators
Time again and again certain people visit the fine pages of FDL with their troll axe to grind…and the quote still remains the same:
“Why is it the person who has the least relevant and most meaningless things to say, proves it by opening their mouth and posting their drivel!”
Oh “this bill has some good things in it” where have we heard that before?
Kewl, I was sitting here scratching my head wondering what that meant..
Hope I get to learn it now. Thanks for asking.
PEH to Schultz, not you, my dear.
sorta of an abbreviated PHEW
Hmmm, lemme see now, where have I heard that before?
…and because I can HeadedWest
Another Fuck you, Obama. (I don’t think there can be too many of these.)
OMG SD that is the perfect metaphor for america
Rich Person: There are no free lunches everyone pays their fair share…Here’s the bill.
I agree!…
but just once I would like to see what I think a lot of folks here and elsewhere would like…a loud “FUCK YOU”…followed by an actual large can of “WHOOP ASS” rendered on this Fascist Prez and his minions of death!
Jedi he went to Sen. Reids school of boxing.
First lesson how to take a hit with your face.
Second lesson how to curl up into the fetal position.
The aggresive fetus style of martial arts.
Crouching Tiger, Shitting Pants.
We can start working on the can of whoop ass by supporting Pfc Bradley Manning.
In a month obama will compromise with republicans and put manning supporters in death camps.
Heh, I bite.
lol
You can bet some red state twat will read my post and the next thing you’ll see will be the talking heads screeching about rounding us up for the purity of the fatherla…reich………what’s OUR fascist orwellian term…Homeland.
Unfortunately, you may be right. The world’s economy is changing. As with any evolutionary process, those insisting that things stay as they were will be disappointed.
If a person in the United States has a job that can be replaced by a machine or performed by someone elsewhere in the world at 1/5th the cost, they will lose that job. Some will fight it (and some will “win” – for awhile) by insisting that society subsidize their position. But for the vast majority of people in this changing environment, the only options are to retrain, relocate, or downscale.
It’s not fun to think about because it will be hard for a lot of people, but it is reality. It’s happened before, it’s happening now in other parts of the world, and it will happen again.
Pelosi didn’t vote,she wanted the good parts but she hated the bill taxs cut for the first time in two years she stood against Obama.
As Speaker of the House, she can control what is and isn’t brought to the floor. Had she really stood against Obama, she would’ve prevented it from coming to the floor in the first place.
Watch what they DO, not what they SAY.
Right there with you Dragon-Fuck Obama
Just read the troll thread. HeadWest is nothing but vapid pontification, doesn’t know the first thing about shareholder proxy voting, labor rights or the labor theory of value, comparative economics, or even where Henry Ford built his first car (it wasn’t ln Wall St.) Just spouts and geysers of social Darwinist pablum, not that he/she would have a clue about what that was. No data to back his claims. No proof of his rantings. Only proof out there is against him, whether it’s the Robber Barons and the 1893 “gilded” depression, Coolidge/Hoover and the Great Depression, or the catastrophe of the Reagan/Bush Revolution, where the “ideas” he advocates were tried with ruinous results. Didn’t attack any personality, just the poverty of his “ideas”.
Fuck Obama.
We would have been better off with McCain. At least the Dems might have fought this fucking giveaway to the rich. The poor would have been fucked but the asshole would have been swept out in a landslide like no other in ’12. and the Dems might have won a veto proof majority. Oops, forgot about Citizens United. Never mind.
I believe you’re referring to John’Neutron Jack’ Welch. Got the name from the bomb. When he got done slashing employees, the buildings were left standing but they didn’t have any people in em.
When someone registered today, and then tries to derail a thread….and even after that has the temerity to ask some one else for facts?
Dude…you need to go back to remedial blog 101.
hurray a giant tax cut to everybody who is currently fucking me over and every jackass thats on t.v. America is clearly saved.
Fuck every single person on t.v. claiming this will create jobs. Yeah those millionaires and billionaires just couldnt create any jobs in the last 10 years with all their millions and billions of dollars but now since they have a few extra now they can?
Such horseshit.
God, and all the apologetic “liberals,” too. “We’re sorry it had to turn out like this” Yeah I’m sure. Every single person on the republican side knows that these fucking democrats will back down on anything and vote for whatever piece of shit bill there is. The reason it turned out like this is because they refuse to take a stand. Sure they’ll make some noise, but in the end they’ll just go along with it.
I need a drink.
Debbie Washed Up Woman Schultz is saying it was such a hard vote and her sympathies go to al franken blahblahlbah….
Fuck these people….fuck these people with a spiky lead pole.
when no liberals vote in ’12 then in ’14 and ’16 dems are going to go FURTHER right to get independants out….
I hate these people.
Can we have a dictatorship? I vote ressurecting Vlad the Impaler to fix America.
Like ZOMG DADT is getting repealed…
We just had to give up a trillion dollars to billionaires and get all types of poor fucking measures.
Great, now when republicans reinstate the drafts I cant get out of service by pretending to be gay.
I think he is trying to out do Bush and finish what Bush could not do.
I am so ashamed of what he did to the democratic party. He turned it into the new republican party.
I can no longer vote democratic. I will only vote for those who ACTUALLY STAND BY THE PEOPLE. I can not support a re election of Obama nor Durbin nor anyone who fails us so shabbily.
What about the “liberals.”
They’re panty waisted failures too.
Oh no Franken got dirt under his nails now he’s gonna cry and vote for it.
Awww say it ain’t so Raul, did the big mean b***hbama sprain your wrist?
The only thing I see as “liberal” anymore about ANY congressional member who identifies themselves as such is that they are “liberal” in how quick they will sell-out their vote to the highest bidder.
Even with this capitulation he’ll still be Saddam Hitler Obamastalin to the fascist monsters.
Exactly so, keagle. The tax cuts have been in place since early in W’s first term, and where are the jobs??? They’re all whores.
I would like to call it as the Bush-Obama tax cuts.