Well, I can relax now.

saTHERSday nite live!

A 77 years old man gets busted for wanting to catch a buzz and the world is safer for democracy.
Must be Thersday.

Evening

Thers!

i’ll never smoke weed with willie again

Almost used that. Really wanted “The Little Dealer Boy” from Colbert’s Christmas special, but I couldn’t find it.

Funny pill shops in Florida and Texas has some to don’t get this treatment.

another good one… maybe it was on the comedy central site — i hear they don’t like their stuff on utube

CC didn’t have it… stinkers

Legalize it. Willie Nelson has fought for family farmers. The DEA fights for Drug Cartels and imprisons innocent citizens. Colorado has collected two million dollars in taxes from Marijuana regulation. Otherwise that money would have gone to the criminal drug cartels that the CIA and DEA protect.

bogarters

There are more of these pain clinics here in Broward County than there are McDonald’s restaurants: 115 so-called pill mills, vs. about 70 of the burger franchises.

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1981582,00.html

http://my.firedoglake.com/thingscomeundone/2010/09/24/ban-ephedrine-ban-oxycodone-we-have-banned-heroin-we-have-banned-cocaine-we-have-even-banned-pot-despite-there-being-no-overdose-from-pot-deaths-ever/

We could tax Pot but then big Pharma would not get the profits Farmers and Dirty Hippies would we can’t have that.
Drug addiction from legal drugs costs how much?

SaTHERSday Night Fever!

OK, they got Pancho, but what about Lefty. I for one will never rest comfortably while he is still running loose like Panama Red on a tear.

Our priorities are so f*cked up…! 8-(

Aloha Thers…!

So far this year, the state has collected more than $2.2 million

http://stopthedrugwar.org/speakeasy/2010/nov/23/colorado_collects_millions_marij

So far this year??? I’m guessing this did not pass on Jan 1 2010. I wonder what the numbers are for savings from not arresting, bringing to trial, and jailing is for Colorado?

Funny how this hapless, bumbling mope in Portland, who could not have gotten to first base without the FBI’s help, is all over the news, but this guy in San Diego hasn’t gotten a peep. Wonder what the difference could be?

Cops not busting pot heads I assume solve other crimes more serious ones I wonder if Colorado will see a drop in crime?
Given the economy that might not happen but less cops wasting time on pot means less crime than would have happened.

That’s not counting the $90 medical card fee for the patient. That $2.2M is just sales tax.

betcha the guy in san diego is a republican

Heh.

I suppose we can only hope this latest scrape with the law finally gets through to Mr Nelson and makes him change his sinful ways.

My favorite town in Colorado is Franktown.

Hah – great find! I’ll put that up Bill Maher’s nose as he was so &^$% as to tweet this.

They haven’t really searched the house yet – they’re waiting until after the weekend, because they need more expertise. Apparently it’s full of stuff that’s unstable (not counting the guy they arrested), and they’d rather not blow up the neighborhood and the investigators.

A Serbian with bomb making expertise got legal citizenship? Given his age 54 picking up bomb making was probably not something he learned in America.
Are we letting in war criminals again the Nazi Rocket Scientists are one thing but software geeks rate a free pass?
I can’t wait for McCain to jump on this immigrant./s

Everybody in San Diego is a Republican.

In addition to massive quantities of explosives, he also had the expertise to construct and deploy functioning bombs, as well as a lot of guns. He, of course is no threat to the welfare of the country.

Except for the TBoggs.

Considering he’s also a foreigner, that kind of makes the point pretty baldly

Willie is 77 ! Go, Willie.

I didn’t know TBoggs was in San Diego. Pretty sure Autumn Sandeen isn’t a Republican either but I’m not certain of that.

It does, doesn’t it?

BELFAST, Maine — James G. Cummings, who police say was shot to death by his wife two months ago, allegedly had a cache of radioactive materials in his home suitable for building a “dirty bomb.

It says that four 1-gallon containers of 35 percent hydrogen peroxide, uranium, thorium, lithium metal, thermite, aluminum powder, beryllium, boron, black iron oxide and magnesium ribbon were found in the home.

http://www.homeland1.com/homeland-security-news/453436-radioactive-materials-recovered-from-home-of-slain-maine-man/

I’m not an expert but isn’t boron used for

Shielding in nuclear reactors
Boron shielding is used as a control for nuclear reactors, taking advantage of its high cross-section for neutron capture.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boron#Shielding_in_nuclear_reactors

Why would he need that unless he was building a nuclear bomb? Of course this guy got no press but Portland’s Christmas tree bomber made the papers in Chicago front page.

Isn’t Willie one of those guys they coulda gotten a long time ago if they’d wanted to? I mean, isn’t he, like, ALWAYS high?

Funny how that works, isn’t it? And the white guys are always just “lone nuts”, while every misguided brown bumblefuck aspirational jihadist is part of some massive highly organized international conspiracy.

The FBI report also stated there was evidence linking James Cummings to white supremacist groups. This would seem to confirm observations by local tradesmen who worked at the Cummings home that he was an ardent admirer of Adolf Hitler and had a collection of Nazi memorabilia around the house, including a prominently displayed flag with swastika. Cummings claimed to have pieces of Hitler’s personal silverware and place settings, painter Mike Robbins said a few days after the shooting.

http://www.homeland1.com/homeland-security-news/453436-radioactive-materials-recovered-from-home-of-slain-maine-man/

White Right Wing Nazi’s get all the breaks lucky for us his wife shot him.

They connected him to a couple of bank robberies, which they hadn’t expected. And his more-or-less-ex-wife thinks he’s lost his mind.
They don’t know where he got all the stuff from.
(According to this story he has a contractor’s license.)

For like the last 40 years.

I would have thought it was pretty obvious when he sang a duet with Julio Iglesias.

I thought he was in Hazzard? Oh wait, I’m thinking of this guy.

Have to say that he is a lot scarier (and effective) than the sadsack in Portland. From everything I have heard, he would never have gotten anywhere without the FBI’s help.

Sierra Blanca is a well known speed/everything else trap. There has been a permanent immigration checkpoint there for at least the last twenty five years. As many trips as Nelson has made along I-10, you would think that they would know better than to not arrive there smelling like a marijuana factory. Something isn’t right here.

The Maine guy was into the White Power movement funny no mention how he got radioactive material after the Anthrax scare I thought all that stuff was harder to get than Bush’s war record.
I bet Bush’s war record is not in his library or mentioned truthfully in his book. my Grand Uncle dodged the WW2 draft he could never come back to America but Bush became President and Vet McCain hugged him?
My Grand Uncle must be laughing right now:)

Yeah, he makes no secret of it, quite the opposite.

Which is to say, if pot is really a problem, why isn’t he locked up for good? If we’re admitting it’s not a big deal, let’s admit that.

Possibly they were, uh, high…?

Like I said before, it’s a relief that there are so few real federal crimes being committed that the FBI can turn its attention to creating terrorists it can capture. God help us if they paid any attention to Wall Street or anything.

Yeah, he admitted to Larry King that he got high before the interview.

Willie has gotten off on charges that would have been the undoing of mortals. Fortunately no prosecutor wants putting Willie Nelson away as part of his resumé. Relatively large amounts of weed and shrooms, though. Most of us would get ten years.

I’ve had a few brushes with celebs and am not one to be starstruck, they put their pants on the same as me, if I wore pants. I made eye contact and nodded at Willie once and he nodded back and for some reason I was floored. The fact that I’d been standing in front of the stage for 13 hours in a driving rain at the first Farm Aid concert might have been a contributing factor.

Earlier in the evening I made eye contact with Bob Dylan, by which I mean I looked at him and he squinted suspiciously at me. Good times.

No doubt but think about what you’re saying. Willie is 77. I know for a fact that checkpoint has been there every bit of twenty five years minimum. The first time I remember it being there was in 1988. Willie makes that trip more than any of us. They wouldn’t have to be stoned to forget it was there, they’d have to be comatose.
My point is that I think the pig that boarded that bus saw Willie and decided to make a name for himself.

Really. If they did that, they might catch some actual criminals who did serious damage to the country and we can’t have that.

Good with Chemicals maybe he cooked meth that would explain the recent crazy change in his behavior. Getting explosives the police wonder about that so I assume its not home cooked stuff.
Any bets Serb Gangs supplied him? Bank robberies would fuel a drug habit. No mention of blowing up safe’s so why make bombs if you are robbing banks?
Paranoid people like bombs, some people pay for good bombs and expertise in Serbia would be a good resume for any criminal did he sell bombs is my question.

This is the government Progressives fought for:

a government that erects a police state on the ruins of a republic

and then makes it all better by writing checks to various petitioners

The most Change this current Age will offer is to whom checks are written and for how much, and soon that will be gone as well

time for some hail marys? So real outside the box apple cart shaking gambits?

Or do we phone it in with the latte liberals?

Not a lot of info is out about the incident. You may well be right, though

The powers that be know pot isn’t dangerous but they like the fact that it’s one more big stick they can use to whup on poor people. Prohibition poses at most a minor inconvenience to the affluent members of society. If they should get popped they pay a fine and go on their merry way. Meanwhile some poor schmuck gets five years for shoplifting a can of malt liquor, ten if he had a roach in his pocket.

Escondido was the meth capital of the country twenty five years ago when I was there. Hoarding, weapons, paranoia, all symptoms of a full blown meth head. A whole lot of these people wind up blowing themselves up.

My point is that I think the pig that boarded that bus saw Willie and decided to make a name for himself.

Must want to run for Sheriff in a very Conservative County where Conservative trumps Country Music? What do we know of the area politically?
Or is this guy a lone wolf anti drug nut cop?

Not to mention that potheads tend not to be criminal masterminds or violent offenders and so help pad arrest statistics.

Christ knows what hellish chemicals keep Larry King alive. Formaldehyde, blood of infant, eye of newt…

I once got wasted with Bob Pollard from Guided By Voices. My brush with rock and roll glory.

I know Willie and I know the traffic stop in Sierra Blanca. I’ve spent time with both. I don’t claim to be an expert on either but I can usually add pretty well.

Yep. It’s easy and generally pretty safe to arrest a hemp head, much less so to arrest a meth head.

Plus every ounce of weed seized has an estimated street value of $10,000. Makes for good press.

Closest I ever came was getting stoned with Becky Hobbs back in high school.

Right? I’ve always wondered where in the fucking hell they were buying their weed and why they would pay so much for it. Heck, with pot around, who needs precious metals or gemstones?

Yay for rock ‘n’ roll glory!

Maybe Larry King is sustained by the same sorcerer who keeps Keith Richards alive.

Thanks that fits still the police wonder where he got the explosives that means not home made stuff, military stuff probably.
Someone supplying Meth heads or are are the Serb or what ever mob set this guy up planning something. The police used the words bomb making factory considering how many police are Vets of Iraq or Afghanistan the phrase bomb making factory I assume is not thrown around lightly.
Factory implies mass production nut tinkering in his garage with explosives describes meth heads meth heads I would expect would use Oklahoma City Bomb making ingredients.

Keith has this painting in his attic ….

Think I recognize that graveyard … Dang, Thers, Willie makes a great undertaker for the empire!

Empire, empire, tryin’ to remake our reality. I just don’t buy theirs.

If they make a large seizure, say a ton of coke, they estimate the street value by breaking it down into the smallest possible unit of sale, say quarter grams, multiply the result total by 100, then add $10 million. Voila!

Nah. Keith Richards survives because his body contains equal proportions of all chemical elements. Thus, while he is constantly metabolizing every poison known to science, he is also metabolizing the antidotes. Iggy Pop “suffers” from the same condition.

Sorry, the reference currently escapes me…

I’m assuming that there is just as much military around San Diego and Orange counties as there was when I was there.

So where is Ron Paul are the Tea Baggers going to sit out this outrage Willie’s Civil Rights were violated or are the Baggers going to sit this one out just like they did with the Porno Scanners?

I also drank beer & Canadian Club with Bruce from Adrenalin OD, but counting New Jersey hardcore acts may not count, exactly.

I think Keith and Iggy might be twins. Didn’t start out that way but they are now…

I’m hip. Breaking down a pound of weed into five dollar loosies will net a whole lotta money.

dorian gray

Military explosives??? Ok I thought Illinois Nazi’s were weird and crazy.

Try this. Larry King, in contrast, subscribes to the Bathory method.

Who knows? I have no idea what they found or what explosives the military uses these days.

The stuff he had was military grade and commercially manufactured from what I read.

Wouldn’t get be cool if the Price Tower in Bartlesville had a giant Tesla coil on top?

OK, off to bed–niters!

Plus the police assume everything is pure and uncut and therefore commands the greatest price. I think rock stars get the good stuff the street junkies get the impure stuff drugs are one thing drugs plus whatever chemicals they cut the shit can be real bad.
At least with pot if its cut oregano isn’t to dangerous.

g’nite thers

Night thers. I’m right behind you.

I think it does. My opthamologist had his office there when I was a kid and I always got turned around and lost in there, even though it is a fairly small building.

Night!

Ah, thanks for the info. I really should learn to read one day…

You know just how to worry me so Serb gangs bringing the stuff in? Local troops on base selling explosives to get high? White Power planning something big?

Nah, they don’t assume anything, they just make up a street value they think will be a big feather in their cap.

Who knows? There has been almost no media coverage of the incident, so it is hard to get any information.

In the last 20 years I’ve met two separate, unrelated individuals whose parents have kicked Iggy Pop out of a rental property in the Chicago area. Considering that I don’t live anywhere near the Chicago area, I find this strongly suggestive of Iggy’s history with rentals.

So, you took a wrong turn in the Wright building?

It doesn’t worry me much. I mean, yeah every now and then you find somebody with the focus to cause a lot of damage but by and large these people are much more a danger to themselves than to any of us.

Night Thers, thanks for LN duty.

Many of them. The damned elevator opened on a different side on every floor, which was unheard of back then.

It’s always lean times for Iggy. Seriously, can body fat me measured in negative numbers?

I’m out too. Oya!

Mostly, though there have been notable exceptions like McVeigh, Rudolph, and Kaczynski. However, this guy is a much greater potential threat than the boob in Portland.

Nighters!

A Serb Immigrant given their recent history of ethnic cleansing should worry the Feds. Military explosives, a bomb factory?
White Power likes to finance their crimes by hitting banks. This guy is to spread out software engineer good enough to get a visa and get legal? Plus a bank robber and explosives expert he’s good at to much I smell Serb Commando.

Agreed:)

It seems to me that Frank designed for aesthetics, not practicality. All these freaking flat-roofed structures. They might be okay in dry climates but locate them in the Midwest and they will invariably leak like a sieve.

g’nite margaret

No, but Iggy does raise the question of whether Flatland was, in fact, a work of fiction after all.

Nighters.

On the road again,
Just can’t wait to get on the road again…

I had a girlfriend who was well acquainted with Willie. She told me the whole sordid story of sin and debauchery. I suggest they immediately track her, Toby Keith and 90% of Nashville (not to mention the entire NBA) down for questioning. Save us, DEA-wan! You’re our only hope!

BWWWWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Hahahahahahahahaha!!!!! Chuckle chortle sniff… AhHahaha (wipes eyes). Oh, that was good.

Think I’ll go fire up another one…

Think I will toddle off as well. Take care all.

g’nite dr dick

That’s funny (finally a literary reference to something I’ve read, albeit over 35 years ago). Honestly though, you don’t need to look very far to find 1-dimensional people.

I’ve been seeing long-term projections suggesting persistent major drought in the midwest (and a lot of other places) a few decades down the road. Perhaps those flat-roofed buildings will eventually prove adaptive for the few people who will be able to afford to live under a roof by then.

Link?

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Be back in a while going for a smoke

G’nite.

I should mosey too, splendid evening to all.

g’nite ratfood

Here you go.

The guy in San Diego is not a brown Muslin. Thus, by definition, whatever he was doing was not terra. Thus, no worries. Nothing to see here. Move along.

Just jumping in at 12:45 EST. Howdy pups! Hello Suzanne!

hey ce

Funny day with lots of activities: MrCEjr left for NYC, MsCE and I attended a baby shower (fabulous) and MrCE and I went on an antiques walk 4-8:00 p.m. It snowed all day, with no accumulation (as is want to do in Cleveland) and we are fireside tonight! Yea!

sweet — i think you will like tonight’s cartoon ce

Great!

There were moms at the shower that I’ve known since MsCEs kindergarten years, who are now grandmothers. We all kind of freaked out, not having seen one another for ten years or so.

I have to say that I’ve missed much of FDL these past weekends, I’m always away, and I miss you!

missed ya too hon – toon’s upstairs

In your absence it’s been calm, peaceful, ever so tranquil with not a hint of dissent. As always.

I’m occasionally visiting tonight.

Oh, it’s coding time again,
I’m gonna leave you,
You can see my faraway and
Bleary eyes,
Yeah, I swore I’d get it finished
By September
Now November’s done
Oh, my, it’s coding time.

Hi Sus. Christine.

I do apologize for the lyrical butchery. To make amends:

It’s Cryin’ Time Again – Ray Charles and Barbra Streisand

Don’t National Treasures have some leeway in following the law? Unlike celebrities, National Treasures add back to society.

OK, they got Pancho, but what about Lefty

lefty split for ohio

You’re right. I’m definitely not a Republican!