If the teabaggers are libertarian, then either they or I totally don’t know the meaning of the word.

No surprise they don’t no what Libertarian means. After all, these same people claim to love and support the constitution and there’s a whole slew of things they line write out of the it.

I thought the original libertarian who invented the tea party just disowned Beck and Palin. Anyway, Broden may be an ass but he’s not a traitor, yet, and neither is Julian Assange. Legal analysis here.

the thing that we’re fighting here against, Glenn, is that there is a power grab on the part of long-term demographic trend favouring the progressive left. And in order for them to effectively pull power from America govern, they have to marginalize and negate the Judeo-Christian conservative elite’s influence in public square.

There. Fixed it.

Imagine the uproar if Bishop Gene Robinson said something similar. Or the Reverend Jeremiah Wright. This is about the brightest line I think one can draw concerning different media, and elite opinion, treatment of the right and the left: advocating violent overthrow of the US government is permitted for the religious right.

I have a pretty good idea that it is they who don’t understand the meaning of the word(s) (It’s not just “Libertarian” they’re unclear on)

What’s going to interesting to watch is when they don’t make the gains they are expecting to after the “liberal” media ginned up the polling results for a year. Any violence that takes place can be partially laid at the feet of the traditional media and their narrative.

“Black Robe Regiment” sounds sorta like “Brown Shirt Brigade” to me. Beck is a truly deranged, truly dangerous individual. Media Matters has a campaign going to focus attention on the Beck problem. Of course it’s being attacked by FoxPac.

Well I hope Glenn has a nice time with his brown shirts–er, I mean black robes.

And yet, Glenn Beck denies he knows the guy. Go figure.

The approach that seems to have been chosen is constant propaganda to incite “lone wolf” violence. There are any number of marginally-stable people out there ready to go out in a blaze of glory at the least provocation.

I expect that when all the dust settles, this will prove to be a typical mid-term with only modest losses by the Dems and no change in control.

After two years of relentless propaganda, this result will enrage the lone wolves, and we will see numerous (dozens? a hundred?) cases of deadly violence. Not enough to destabilize the system, but a real bummer if you are in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Don’t underestimate the “band wagon” effect. Remember how common school shootings were? Then they all faded away at once? Wackos see their fantasies being played out on the evening news and will want that “glory” for themselves.

Could be an ugly six months or so.

Another Christian Terrorist Warrior for peace and love. I am sure Christ would love his attitude.

Right now Huffington Post is chock full of “Christians” who have time between church and football and who are taking glee in the suffering and dying of Haitian people. Just depraved.

Slightly OT:

The asses in Texas and Alaska who want their states to secede from the United States should start by demanding that their representatives stop getting federal dollars for their states.

Till then, they should stfu.

I would then strongly recommend you avoid the Fraudclosure threads over there :D

working on a diary on the Libertarian fella

Actually I’ve been trying to avoid most threads over there. I didn’t use HuffPo all of 2010 because I got so tired of the back and forth between the decent people and depraved people. I mean, don’t they EVER get tired of it?

I have never read any of the comments at Huff Post but I do like the animal pictures. :)

This is utter nonsense. Mr. Brodens beliefs are as follows:
Faith: I firmly believe that our nation was founded on Judeo-Christian principles. These principles are the bedrock of our success as a nation and as a people.

Family: Our nation’s future is only as good as the health of the family. As the family goes, so goes the nation.

Country: America has been a global leader for all freedom loving people. Our liberties and form of government is a model for all who strive for freedom anywhere. Our Declaration of Independence and our Constitution are among our most precious national treasures, and the ideas they embody must be honored.
He has:
•Served as an Adjunct Professor at Dallas Baptist University from 1990-1992

•Serves as President of the African American Alumni Association Executive Committee

•Is a founder of Ebony Berean, an organization with a mission to inform African-American Pastors of the “Cultural Wars”.
His candidacy is about conservative, Constitutional principles of limited government, free enterprise, individual responsibility, personal freedom and national security. Because of his guiding principle, his stand on individual issues will be correct. Every vote, on every issue, must be weighed against the unchanging of the original intent of the framers of our Constitution with respect to the limited role of our federal government.
Therefore, how you can spin these untruths like you do and sleep at night is just beyond me.

I usually avoid them as well – but have been reading the Fraudclosure threads to see if the narrative is advancing among the people – (it is) but the inhumanity and concern trolling is cringe worthy

You left out that whole violent insurrection being “on the table.”

BT if this guy was Hispanic the cops would be all over him whats the deal in your state? FALN oh I’m sorry the Puerto Rican center got raided by the FBI regular wish my sister were her she has the intel on the ground that thats not in the google.
No we are not Puerto Rican but we do support each other and talk.

The original ones claimed to be, but they’ve been co-opted by the Koch brothers and Dick Armey and shoved back into the GOP fold before they could pose a real third-party threat to the Republicans. But this has come at the price of giving controlling power to the GOP’s religio-racist right wing, whose candidates are winning primaries and causing sane Republicans to either stay home or join/create third parties.

Yep, that looks about right to me.

Therefore, how you can spin these untruths like you do and sleep at night is just beyond me.

Could you help out an old fat guy and specifically point out the untruths in the post? Thanks.

Country: America has been a global leader for all freedom loving people. Our liberties and form of government is a model for all who strive for freedom anywhere.

To pick just one fallacy in your comment, you might check on the international standing of the U.S. in opinion polls overseas, after W.

Not to mention that the U.S. is in the low-teens to low-20s in ranking on most measures of value of society, like education, health, legal system, etc.

But then, guessing you live in an evidence-free zone.

•Is a founder of Ebony Berean, an organization with a mission to inform African-American Pastors of the “Cultural Wars”.

no, his “mission” is to collect as much Wingnut Welfare as possible

wonder what a “culture wars” costs these days – as much as a “Spanish”, but less than an “around the world” ? or is it “upsell” on a john by john basis ?

uh huh, work it Rev

My Grand Aunt’s proudest moment with my Dad was when he went to Texas as an engineer and ordered red necks around not many fools mess with a 6 foot guy from Chicago though construction workers do drop bolts on you from 100 feet up on accident if they don’t like you.
What ever Texas did to her is remembered and shit like this makes me inclined to believe her. My Dad said the only time he ever saw my Grand Aunt back down was to my Mom.
Guess why I’m still single few girls are that strong or to be fair psychotic. Plus I’m smart that limits my pool a bit.

Huh, I’m not sure which is worse. A truly libertarian wingnut or a religio-racist wingnut.

I’ll have to ponder on that one awhile, although at first glance it would seem the religio-racist one.

whose candidates are winning primaries and causing sane Republicans to either stay home or join/create third parties.

Built that thought more please

This one of the Christian groups killing Gays in Africa? If we can link GOPers to that Gays and their friends will go our way.
I want Holder to investigate Bush funding for Africa and these groups.

Yeah, it’s almost like newspaper comments. Some people like arguing with others. I really don’t. Part of the reason is that even if you “win” the discussion they won’t admit it.

In my letters to advertisers I liked to include a comment that dealt with the typical wingnut objection.

So for example when when they say something like, “You are quoting Beck out of context!” I can point to a link to complete context.

It can be tiresome, but sometimes we have to do it just to bat down their reflective action. We learned this lesson after the Vietnam war and now we reflexively say, “I support our troops” before anything. It’s sad we have to do that, but there it is.

What I like to do is put them on the defensive linguistically. This worked on the hosts of K S F O. Through my advertiser alerts I was able to force them to clarify. So they were forced to say, “terrorist Muslims” or “extremist” Muslims instead of just “Muslims”

You should write Comedy the trolls give you so much free material we put in prison a greater share of our population than than the evil USSR or White South Africa ever did.
Our defense we do execute as many as some other countries do this is sad:(

I’ll buy into people believing in the original intent when and if these folks call for the disbanding of our standing army, Article I, Section 8. Then again consistency with what’s actually written, in the Constitution, as never been these folks strong point.

That’s why I said ‘pick just one fallacy.’ There are so many to choose from.

I so not disagree with the “philosophical point” that people had the right to resist a tyrannical government. And “philosophical” is the point. He certainly never promoted violence of any kind.
Through his Fair Park Friendship Center, Pastor Broden has provided practical help to those in need, proving that private charities can do much more than government can. As a Commonsense Constitutional Conservative, he is committed to getting our country back to the founding principles of limited government and fiscal responsibility.”

I’ll buy into original intent when we are once again a few million subsistence farmers living on the edge of a substantially undeveloped continent and limited to 18th century technology. Until then I need a living document that can adapt to changes which the Founders would never have been able to anticipate.

Right. s/

Agreed, OFG. Crazed holy warriors can kick the asses of confused ideologues all day long.

I do not, typo

proving that private charities can do much more than government can.

Link with #s please.

Toward the end of the tape Broden says progressives have kicked the Christians out of the public square with Section 501(c)(3), which is the law that conditions the income tax exemption for a religious organization on staying out of politics, a law that more than 350 fundie Christian churches willfully and intentionally violated a few weekends ago.

Meanwhile, the Roman Catholic Church, mainstream Christian churches, and the Unitarian Universalist Church never violate or complain about the prohibition.

Broden is quite mad and he belongs in a secure mental facility because he is a danger to others.

Broden is quite mad and he belongs in a secure mental facility because he is a danger to others.

Agreed. But I do wonder what out political landscape would look like if we actually did put those that belonged in a secure mental facility in one.

Mmmmm…

True dat!

I [Broden] firmly believe that our nation was founded on Judeo-Christian principles. These principles are the bedrock of our success as a nation and as a people.

John Adams disagrees with Broden:

Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion,—as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen,—and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.

BTW, this wording was passed unanimously in the Senate, and signed by Adams.

I am not really interested in what other countries think of us..especially when they still have to pull a chain to flush their toilets and they think a shower is a luxury. I take an around-the-world trip every 5 years and have never, ever encountered anyone who does not like Americans. I think that belief is just left wing media bias.

proving that private charities can do much more than government can

Sorry, no sell here. You’d have to fund it through gov’t FIRST before comparing the outcomes.

Let’s see now. We had the black shirts, the brown shirts, and now the black robes. Don’t even ask. It’s a fascist thing.

Do they have no sense of style or taste?

Drifting too far from “black or white” makes them feel uneasy in their skins.

where are all the “mainline” christian ministers when these crazed preachers spew this anti-christian messages? seems to me no one calls them on their madness… they continue to get traction in rethug politics…. and he’s running for congress too? sheeeeeeeeeeeesh!!

Last night I watched “V for Vendetta” for the first time. I might have been frightened by the movie. But I wasn’t. I took comfort in knowing that the film is so far off that a fascist dictatorship could never happen in the United States. After all, the American government would never grossly invade the privacy of its citizens; jail undesirables en mass; enforce artificial distinctions that sustain an unequal distribution of rights, entitlements and responsibilities; meld corporate power with state power; conduct medical experiments on its citizens; implement programs of state coercion and terror within the homeland; etc. we cannot expect to see an emergency so significant that it would enable the state to consolidate powers in the executive by running roughshod over the legal rules and mechanisms meant to prevent this very thing.

Finally, we have patriots like Glenn Beck and his followers who would never stand for such a thing.

We need to expand that media criticism to include ‘liberal’ MSNBC, too, I believe. Why constantly talk about Christine O’Donnell’s idiocy, when there are Democrats elsewhere in really tight races, who might actually lose? Why repeat over and over Sharron Angle’s ‘second amendment remedies’ if not to remind us all that gunplay is to be expected?

Let’s face it, ratings will go through the roof for the ‘news’ cable fest that first gets the revolution televised. At the end of the day, even our favorite hosts can say and do what they want only if they have ratings that please their bosses. Can’t you imagine what a violent spasm somewhere in America on the Wednesday after Election Day would do for viewership?

This is especially true if, as I expect, close elections and recounts leave us not knowing which party controls either House of Congress for some time into the Lame Duck session.

Chaos is good for business, if your business is keeping people ‘informed’ about chaos.

It is the duty of all men in society, publicly, and at stated seasons, to worship the SUPREME BEING, the great Creator and Preserver of the universe. And no subject shall be hurt, molested, or restrained, in his person, liberty or estate, for worshipping GOD in the manner most agreeable to the dictates of his own conscience; or for his religious profession or sentiments; provided he doth not disturb the public peace, or obstruct others in their religious worship. Statesmen, may plan and speculate for Liberty, but it is Religion and Morality alone, which can establish the Principles upon which Freedon can securely stand.
John Adams

Stop spinning!

“A truly libertarian wingnut or a religio-racist wingnut.”

I have a highly technical question for all of our engineers. Is a wingnut the screwor or the screwee?

Perhaps irrelevant. Whenever a wingnut is in action, something is getting screwed.

They like Americans individually. Usually.

But they intensely dislike America as a nation for the actions of our government such as invading other countries and overthrowing governments in other lands.

And your point is???

I’m not religious, but I can’t help but notice that there seems to be some confusion about the fact that NO ONE is attacking the right of people to practice religion in this country – except other churches and Christians.

I agree, that’s why I believe the Framers used the language they did, when writing the document. My point was a little more esoteric, in that people who claim love of the constitution never really mean what they claim they mean. More often than not, original intenter’s really mean following the constitution as they interpret it.

Comedy Gold but we have get you on the MSM:)

Constitutional Conservative, he is committed to getting our country back to the founding principles of limited government and fiscal responsibility.”

So where was he during the Bush years? Funny how these groups never say anything about the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan 10 years of stupidly spending money but not a peep?
Face it Obama is Black and you folks need a fashionable reason to hate him.

Can’t say you trust God if you won’t trust and help your fellow man created in God’s image can you?

That maybe the folks you’ve encountered on your round the world are differentiating between their feeling for “regular” Americans they can like but still dislike the government

As I’ve mentioned a couple of times this weekend, I’m reading up on Fascism. One of the common features seems to be focusing on a national (they are all nationalist movements) mythic history. In the case of America this would involve the Founders and the Constitution. The details aren’t important (especially if they refute the narrative), just the myth itself.

As to the “original indenders” themselves, it seems to me that they would have preferred the Confederate Constitution to the American one, anyway.

Republicans are the answer to Beck’s question of monkeys evolving today, there are always deadends.

“I have found Christian dogma unintelligible. Early in life I absented myself from Christian assemblies.” –Ben Franklin

“The clergy, by getting themselves established by law and ingrafted into the machine of government, have been a very formidable engine against the civil and religious rights of man.” –Thomas Jefferson

I take this meaning from dakine01′s assertion: Things can always change, or You Are What You Eat.

The more individual Americans replace their human hearts and faces with profit gods and happiness in torture, the more American People will become as despised as American Gov’t/Business interference and manipulations.

Why do you think the World celebrated Obama’s winning of the Presidency?

The point is they like and admire the people of the U.S. The government, not so much.

You know, like say the Iraqi people were so wonderful and great and it was just the government of Saddam Hussein that we hated.

Like that.

A screed never voted on, much less approved, as official U.S. Government policy.

However, we not only have the 2nd Amendment of the Constitution, which WAS voted on and approved, we have this language, voted on and approved by treaty with Senate approval and Presidential signature. All within a few years of the beginning of our great nation. In other words, with the intent of the framers, and in some cases, the framers themselves, voting on it.

“As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion,—as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen,—and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.”

Now matter how badly you and others want it, no matter how many times you and others try and muddy the waters with complete BULLSHIT, this country IS NOT NOW, NOR EVER HAS BEEN, A CHRISTIAN NATION.

But keep on believing in bullshit if you want. That does go quite well with the invisible genie in the sky. Along with Santa Clause, the tooth fairy, and the great Pumpkin.

Ugh, no edit??

That last two sentence paragraph should never have been typed. Are we going to get our ability to edit back or is this new stuff that’s happening the way it is from now on?

I’ll have to be more careful in the future. I try at this but fail often it seems.

Bravo

“NO ONE is attacking the right of people to practice religion in this country – except other churches and Christians.”

That’s their ‘god’ ordained job. And if they can’t accomplish their job, they will surely kill you trying.

HA!

LOL, that’s the BEST summation I’ve ever heard.

True dat!

this country is sooo headed for a big downfall!! only folk prospering other than the usual suspects are megachurch pimps ooops i mean pastors

Indeed. Watched the director’s cut of “Kingdom of Heaven” the other night. “It’s God’s Will!” cried all and sundry who wished to kill.

Edit seems to have disappeared. It was here a few minutes ago. I seem to still be logged in. Hmmm…

Anyway, as I was muttering about, above, part of the national myth that is being fabricated is this “America was Founded as a Christian Nation” myth.

It is undoubtedly true that some of the Founders were fairly devout, as were most people of the age. Religious expressions were also part of common usage, just as I might address a letter to “Dear Sam”, when I don’t really hold Sam to be particularly dear.

However, they were educated men and were well aware of recent European history and realized that the only hope for religious freedom was in a secular state. Which is why they set one up.

The Edit button is there, but the timeout is too short. “Your time to edit this comment has expired.”.

It expires almost instantly.

True.

What is corporatism other than a monetary religion? Are we down to a “religious” war in which neither represents a majority of the citizens, but are both backed by the same money? Is this the military/industrial/congressional complex in action at home?

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Fascists and religious fundamentalists need to feel persecuted. Overcome by fear and insecurity, they derive no personal identity or meaning without it. They are not able to define themselves or act on their ideology without this essential, externalized fantasy. Persecution legitimizes.

Otherwise they are left with, what, “Love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you”? These are words of weakness that are difficult to reconcile if you already feel scared and weak.

I can’t help but see social support; i.e. health care, transportation, education, child care, and retirement public programs as ways of neutralizing these types of insecurities. Or do you think it’s more psychological? Your list of persecutions are the very things taught by those who convince folks they need a god or church.

It must be horrible to feel so out of control of one’s own being.

Does anybody really believe that effete, pudgy gas-bags like Beck or Dick Morris, or most of their intended audience, has the capacity for physical confrontation? What, they’re going to incite the National Guard to invade D.C.? Anyway, I expect that if you told them to “bring it on,” they’d accuse you of fomenting violence.

Does anybody really believe that effete, pudgy gas-bags like Beck or Dick Morris, or most of their intended audience, has the capacity for physical confrontation? What, they’re going to incite the National Guard to invade D.C.? Anyway, I expect that if you told them to “bring it on,” they’d accuse you of fomenting violence.

And Hitler was a Mensch, a person of virtue, a warrior-gentleman? A megalomaniac needs only to have enough to inspire those looking for a leader. The megalomaniac must also be cruel. But he need not be brave.

Where, after all, did Hitler die?

A minor amount of physical intimidation and thuggery has a disproportionate impact. It’s a force multiplier. The leaders don’t have to lift a finger.

This isn’t really about a formal army-vs-army scenario, regardless of the rhetoric. This is about conservatives no longer being able to muster enough people to vote against their self-interest to rely on Democracy, so they’ll augment that with spontaneous rank-and-file intimidation (for example, voter suppression), private security forces, and “lone wolf” attacks.

O.K., I just watched the video and I have to admit that it doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to me. The point was what? That “liberation theology” is a godless bully pushing real christians around in America? Where is this tyranny taking place, exactly? Seems to me that the opposite is true, that those who believe in biblical inerrancy are the bullies. Is this clip representitive of the Glenn Beck show? Seems like somebody trying to string a bunch of unrelated sentence fragments together and calling it a sermon. Do viewers sent their money to Glenn?

I suspect authoritarianism is like most things related to our human condition in that it is a product both of who we are (individually and collectively) and our environment. The big thinker on authoritarians, Bob Altemeyer, seems to think that some folks may just be born with high authoritarian tendencies, but that family environment, exposure to diversity, non-violent resistance, and what sort of formative experiences one has when authority is challenged are also part of the equation. In one of his books, he charts the percentage of people his research has identified over the last four decades as being high on his Right Wing Authoritarian scale. During this time, the percentage has increased. Perhaps declining standards of living or increased fear-mongering on TVs that are on about twice as long every day as they were forty years ago may have something to do with this.

You are probably right about the positive effects of social support. The link between poverty and crime is well researched. There seems to be at least a strong correlation between social and economic insecurity and fascism or religious fundamentalism. Or, you show me someone who is happy, loved, free and enjoys a reasonable quality of life, and I’ll show you someone who isn’t railing against boogeymen, using violence to solve their problems, becoming enamored with the superficial security of fascism, and explaining it all away as God’s will. We all have to pay for our existence. We can either pay positively through health care, education, etc., or we can pay for cops, prisons, and folks who tell us they can make it rain of we just Obey.

As you say, it must feel horrible. And most of us want to feel good, so we’ve got to find a way out of a hopeless state. If deferring to authority figures and their Right Answers makes us feel less insecure and afraid, what greater authority to avail ourselves of than God and Country? And because both nationalism and monotheism are defined in relation to the “other,” they are natural institutions for authoritarian followers. It would be much harder to convince someone they “need a god or church” without the authority of irrefutable Truth on one hand and the fear of hell on the other.

Years ago I wrote a paper comparing what was coming out of the pulpits of both British and German churches prior to World War I with Old Testament injunctions by God that the Israelites make war on the Philistines, Canaanites, et.al. All the same stuff: “God commands you to kill all his enemies and take their stuff because you, as God’s chosen people (see also American Exceptionalism), deserve it more. Amen”

I remember watching the Dustin Hoffman film ‘Straw Dogs’-that was when Moses was a kid-and I will never forget Hoffman saying to an Anglican clergyman who was extolling the marvels of Christianity, and I paraphrase, “Never has so much blood been spilled as during the reign of Christ.’ And Hoffman was quoting someone else, perhaps Betrand Russell. If anyone knows the quote I would be beholden to know who said it.

Sadly, I think this clip is very representative of Beck’s “usual” shows. I haven’t seen much of Beck because less than a minute is almost more that I can tolerate. Sometimes KO or RM run clips of Beck, and lately I’ve had to change the channel because Beck seems seriously deranged to me. Beck’s weird negativity is out of control and not my thing.

It wouldn’t surprise me both if Beck’s viewers send him money, and if so, that Beck keeps it. Beck does make a tidy profit from GoldLine sales, and that organization has been proven by independent sources to be a real scam and a rip-off, yet Beck’s devotees continue to buy buy buy all the while crying about the “tyranny” imposed on them by the NaziKenyanSocialist regime from which they must either secede or violently overthrow.

Go figure. Makes not one lick of sense to me.

Go figure. Makes not one lick of sense to me.

There is your problem. You expect things to make sense. Knock it off.

Now if you really want a reality check which falls absolutely in line with your comment, you absolutely must watch, and I will emphasize this for the diehard seekers of truth among us, the Netflix movies called “The Trial of God”.

Of course, it is a British production-sorry, no Hollywood sex or special effects: unless you call having your synapses rewired and your cerebral cortex rearranged and all the crap you have ever heard about ‘god’s’ chosen-people completely redefined. It is more than brutally honest: it will reach inside of you and grab every feeling and thought you have ever had about ‘god’ and unmercifully tear them without remorse from your mental hard drive of cherished fairy tales. Let’s put it this way: you ain’t never going to be the same again, at least when it comes to the topic of ‘god’s’ good will to man.

Just to whet your appetite, an ashen hued, drab, ordinary, nondescript, amazingly thoughtful, erudite, enlighted man-that ain’t my definition of ordinary but it plays well in the film-reminds his doomed fellow prisoners in a concentration camp who are awaiting their turn to go to the gas chambers that ‘god’ is the most successful murderer in the universe. He killed for the Jews when it suited his needs and he killed innocent children, women, men, and all of their livestock without mercy, compassion, or hesitation time after time after time.

And now ‘he/she/it’ is killing the Jews without mercy or hesitation because ‘he’ has found a new chosen people and the Jews are now irrelevant to his new purposes. What the Jewish Bible doesn’t say-it must have been on the third tablet which Moses dropped on his way down from Sinai (thanks Mel Brooks)-is that ‘god’ had a built in escape clause in his contract and every once in a while according to his divine plans uses it.

“Where, after all, did Hitler die?”

In the fourth act of Mel Brooks’ “The Producers’. Unfortunately, it was edited out of the final version of the film.

When a wingnut utters the Christian nation canard, please remind him or her that the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment of the United States Constitution provides in pertinent part,

“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion . . .”

Case closed. End of discussion.