Jonathan Capehart, continuing his one-sided cozying up to the Obama White House and its access demands on journamalists, is shocked — shocked! — that the Log Cabin Republicans support a Republican candidate for Congress. The LCRs’ success in court getting Don’t-Ask-Don’t-Tell overturned makes them a juicy target for Capehart, who is an Obama apologist par excellence, especially if it’s his buddy Valerie Jarrett who is under attack by caustic comments on blogs like, um, this one.
Let’s face it. The Log Cabin Republicans, whose DADT suit was initially designed to embarrass the George W Bush Administration but has now splattered mid-term controversy all over Team Obama, are an irritant to Capehart’s White House buddies. Is there anything the helpful toady Capehart can do to disillusion those who might be tempted to salute the Log Cabin lads for their judicial success?
Why yes there is! Just look what Capehart has found! The Log Cabin Republicans have endorsed for Congress — a Republican!
Then, on Monday the organization threw its support behind Mike Fitzpatrick, the Republican in a close race against Rep. Patrick Murphy (D-Pa.), the Iraq War vet who masterfully guided the repeal bill to passage. They did this despite Fitzpatrick’s opposition to Murphy’s bill — and despite the organization’s own extensive efforts to secure passage of Murphy’s amendment. And another thing: I always thought Republicans were opposed to judges “legislating” from the bench. Don’t ask don’t tell is an act of Congress and it will take an act of Congress to get rid of it.
So, Jonathan is shocked that an organization whose name ends in REPUBLICAN would endorse a REPUBLICAN for office in Pennsylvania. So shocked, if fact, that he types it up in the Washington Post, seeming to loyally provide ammunition against a group who has embarrassed the President.
But what of Congressman Patrick Murphy? Couldn’t LBGT activists honestly oppose his re-election, especially if he’s of the other party than the one they inhabit?
Patrick Murphy bowed to the White House’s request that he severely limit his DADT repeal amendment — even though he had the votes to pass it in its original version. If ‘masterfully guided the repeal bill to passage’ includes watering it down unnecessarily at White House request, okay — sure. This is the point where the Pentagon got to put their study, their recommendation, and their report into the mix. This fouled up real repeal and put the sham repeal on track to passage in the House of Representatives:
Rep. Patrick Murphy (D-Penn.) submitted an amendment to the House Rules Committee Tuesday using language that was agreed upon during a meeting at the White House Monday.
Only one person who participated in that meeting has identified himself—Aubrey Sarvis, executive director of the Servicemembers Legal Defense Network (SLDN).
The Human Rights Campaign and Servicemembers United, a gay veterans group, also had at least one representative at the meeting, but neither organization would identify who that was.
The White House declined to identify or confirm any participants, but at least one source familiar with the meeting said it included White House of Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel’s deputy Jim Messina. That source provided the information only on the condition of anonymity.
CNN reported that “top congressional Democrats” also participated in the meeting. A press release from SLDN indicated that DOD officials helped craft the amendment.
But on MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow Show Tuesday night, Murphy took credit for the language, evening calling it the “Murphy Amendment.”
The amendment calls for repeal to take place only after two things occur: 1) the Secretary of Defense receives the implementation report he has asked for by December 1, and 2) “The President transmits to the congressional defense committees a written certification, signed by the President, the Secretary of Defense, and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, stating” that three additional things have been accomplished. Those three things are: 1) that the three men have “considered the recommendations contained in the report and the report’s proposed plan of action,” 2) the DOD has “prepared the necessary policies and regulations to exercise” repeal, and 3) that the implementation of those policies and regulations is “consistent with the standards of military readiness, military effectiveness, unit cohesion, and recruiting and retention of the Armed Forces.”
So. Maybe the Log Cabin Republicans’ decision to support Patrick Murphy’s opponent wasn’t simply because he was a Republican Congressman, defeated by Murphy in the 2006 Democratic wave. Maybe it’s not simply because they, too, are Republicans, just like their endorsee in this race. Maybe the Log Cabin Republicans see Murphy as someone who derailed real repeal, who ceded control of a legislative process to the White House and the Pentagon, and who talks like an ally but — at the point LGBT servicemembers needed a hero — acted like a collaborator?
LGBT Americans need support for our goals in both parties — but we don’t need advocates who give in just when victory is at hand. Viewing Patrick Murphy’s actions that way doesn’t require a partisan lens, but it does require removing the rose-colored glasses Jonathan Capehart wears as he types up another screed against people who embarrassed Team Obama.
Jonathan Capehart needs to face reality: he’s made a lifestyle choice to defend Team Obama at every turn. But now, that lifestyle choice has forced him to criticize Republicans for endorsing a Republican who opposes a Democrat who may very well have sold out real DADT repeal. Capehart should examine his lifestyle choice, because it’s not one a real journalist would make.
It’s personality over principle. It’s a reflexive, and absurd, attack on an Obama antagonist without seriously evaluating why a Republican group that favors immediate and full repeal of DADT might oppose Patrick Murphy.



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WTF is wrong with Capehart? Seriously. I mean he’s always been a total DNC tool but just lately he’s lost any tenuous grasp on reality that he may have once enjoyed. I guess defending the indefensible makes one go through all sorts of philosophical contortions.
Teddy!
Yet another case where the administration’s unwillingness to rock the boat or to take a principled stand has come back to hurt the party. The man has no core and there is no Truman in him at all.
Teddy, I’m so grateful for your continued reporting on DADT. Why would anyone be surprised that the Log
Cabin Republicans would back a Republican? The world has gone crazy!
Whoa! Edit time is still zero. Oh well, I just wanted to add good evening Teddy! :)
The “Come on in for the ‘Big Win’” arm of OFA/Veal Pen is stronger than we first imagined.
Cocktail weenies were supposed to die on January 20, 2009.
No such luck.
Contortions is the perfect word. This sounds like “who’s on first” except it makes less sense. Every day I tell myself that I will maintain my sanity until this awful election is over. May not make it.
I’ve tried to write a diary on my experiences with the military prior to the DADT policy but I just can’t seem to make it short enough for people to want to read. There’s still a lot of bitterness there, no matter how I try to let go of it.
I think “Provisomo” is play louder, I wonder what cheer louder is? I’ll bet Capefart knows.
Capeheart works for the Washington Post-It. ‘Nuff said.
It is rather a no brainer, isn’t it?
teddy!
Well, the WH press secretary job presumably will be open after the midterms, whether Gibbsy moves up to Counselor or over to the DNC to replace Kaine. So there’s that opportunity, I guess.
Fired Up!
The news would be if the LCR backed the Democrat in this race, but somehow Jonathan sees it as a betrayal for them to back a GOP even though they supported Patrick Murphy’s amendment before the Congressman watered it down.
Tech team is aware of the Edit issues, so type more carefully in future, or comment more often! *g*
Evening, M
There is that, but they usually cheer for the other side.
Hmph! I’ll bet you’re right. He’s auditioning for the job, just like Yglesias seems to be angling for a mainstream gig.
This Capehart column just reeks of a call from VaJa: ‘say something bad about those fa&&ots, won’t you, J?”
I was talking with a guy who’s almost as old as I am and who also grew up Republican. He, a veteran of VietNam, said, “Jeez, do you know that they are throwing out Arabic speakers over this DADT mess????” That guy is pulling a straight D ballot this year. Obama is EpicFail, but the alternative is so, so worse.
It’s an important story, Margaret, I hope you’ll find the time and place hereabouts to tell it.
I said earlier that we had better all proofread or risk looking like a bunch of mouth breathing, knuckle dragging red state denizens. Thank dog for Firefox spellchecker!
9 & 10 are a Pair o’dox
Never gets old, for me anyway…
Again, another example of a lost opportunity because the Democrats refuse to be Democrats. They seem to be afraid of being seen as progressive or liberal, even though a large majority of Americans support liberal/progressive policies.
It really does, nice pickup.
I was thinking how it is unfair when people say Obama isn’t progressive. Every day he gets progressively worse.
Wow, after poking around MyFDL today it’s wonderful to see a thread without those goddamned nested comments (spit).
Thanks for all the inside info Teddy . . . it was complicated for me to understand at first as I don’t know either player, but Capehart seems to be a Veal Penned Bleating Beltway Insider and it appears Murray has gone the way of the entire Dem Party in the House and Senate . . . they are all bought and paid for to do the corporate fascist bidding of their owners.
I didn’t know of either of them, so thanks again for schoolin’ me further . . . .
ditto. good work. just don’t get this stuff other places — primarily, i think — because people aren’t really interested. i think i know what i’m talking about because there was a time i wasn’t really interested myself. oh yeah. DADT was wrong. it’ll get taken care of. not a priority, though. you’ve really educated me. next step – do something. thanks ted
I’ve been trying Teddy. I have a partial draft saved. I’m not that great a writer and being concise waved bye-bye to me on the way by a long time ago. I was thinking about asking Kelly if he wanted to collaborate on it as an editor.
And, Teddy, I’ve been busy so I lost track. Did Lt. Choi get to enlist in the Army?
So now when I hit the edit button, I don’t get the message anymore, just a blank message box.
I meant to type “those GOP fa&&ots” in 18.
Type it in if you feel the drive, I’ll read it avidly, bitter and all . . . so will hundreds of Pups.
Murphy had the votes to pass repeal.
He went to the White House and they asked him to water it down.
Ya gotta wonder what the DoD told him they had on him from his Iraq service.
Too many jersey swaps going on for me to even track these guys anymore.
LOL — brilliant Teddy : ) Great post.
There is nothing stopping Obama from ending it now. I’m with Lt. Choi, “when”?
The recruiting office at Times Square notified him that they had shredded his paperwork as soon as the Ninth Circuit instituted the stay of Judge Phillips’ ruling. New rules: no gays.
Wonder what they did to all the two-days’ worth of lavender sign-ups, “sure you can still join, but shhhh, girl!”
I for one look forward to seeing it, but fully understand how hard it must be to write. I applaud your courage for wanting to speak out. I think Kelly would be a good choice as he is very good at expressing himself and has also shown the same courage in the past.
I agree. But I hope I’m not just a luddite. I just find reading things chronologically to be so much more sensible. And I always liked that you could (show text) to get back to whatever was being responded to. Oh well…….
Thanks but I can smooth the edges at least a bit more I think. :)
Dems are paid to do the bidding of their owners, not us.
Nothing’s changed.
I won’t vote for them, they are no better than the Pugs in the big scheme if thigs.
I’m sick!
Thanks. I like Kelly. I think Kelly would be my soul mate if we were in the same county and I mean that in a purely platonic way of course.
Hail!
This is not the Favre thread~
We like bitter. Pain is the best teacher, and bebbe, here you can just let it roll. Jane established this place long ago as “that foul-mouthed fem blog.” As a middle-aged white hetero, I’m comfortable with my minority status over here.
This was my response to Lt. Choi’s re-enlistment being shredded. Just sickening. I hope he finds a secure place to keep fighting the good fight. What happened to that pilot with 18 1/2 years in who was outed by a disgruntled ex-friend?
Thank you, it seemed fitting.
Wapo schmuckitude and the sky is blue .. *sigh*
(Btw “Capeheart” always stuck in my mind after I read an epistolary book about Rachel Carson .. letters between her and her female soulmate, and they loved to listen to classical music records on their 50′s high-fi rig which they referred to as the Capeheart .. kinda like Dumont, big name at the time in living-room audio)
so anyway, even the name of this Kaplan twat pales beside Rachel Carson and her gal pal and Beethoven symphonies enjoyed in the wilds of Maine
That’s a great idea, perhaps you and Kelly could structure it as a Q&A format, after your introduction, or his?
If Gibbs goes to the DNC, you can send the DNC flowers, because it will be dead before the next electiion.
I won’t vote for Obama again but I did vote for my Dem Congresscritter and my Dem Governor candidate. We can’t afford another four years of Goodhair, no matter how I feel about Democrats at the moment.
Yeah, that and airplanes fall from the sky and brakes on cars fail.
The pressure and COMMAND that the PTB hold sway of any one in the House, Senate, appointed positions or ANY civil job is huge. Those who oppose are easily controlled or eliminated one way or another.
I offer Grayson, Franken, Reid, and all dem’s who were FOR a robust Public Option and let a giveaway of tax payer dollars ensue, instead.
A pox on them all.
They aren’t already?
Thanks ratfood, I’m gonna quote you on that “progressively worse”, heh heh ; )
Col Fehrenbach is patiently waiting to hear about his case, I believe.
Or not; from Queerty:
I’ve sort of gradually reached the same conclusion. Sick and tired of voting for lesser evils. In the next couple weeks I’ll see if I possess the dexterity to hold my nose, squint and vote at the same time.
That’s wonderful — was Rachel Carson, um, one of us?
I’m telling you, Teddy, that it really is getting close to time to take to the streets. (my reply button isn’t working — guess the changes gave it a bad case of glitch!)
A human being? Why yes she was.
A good editor edits well. Has a distinct perspective. A good editor has different qualities than the writer with courage to tell a story. Just saying.
Good Evening, Firedogs, one and all.
For over a year I’ve had to change the channel if I see Obama. Bad enough reading about the shit he does.
You have my deepest condolences regarding MOST of your state’s elected offals, not just teh GoodHair Twit . . . and certainly for your schools board officials and members.
You can’t FIX Fugly.
Evening, Demi!
c’mon, man. it just takes some gettin’ used to is all.
The only Democrat I voted for was former Gov Kitzhaber, who’s seeking another term opposed to the odious former basketball player Chris Dudley, who reads (literally) from the Arnold/Meg GOP-gubernatorial-candidate playbook: Tax cuts! Education! Waste!
It’s as if they think no one’s heard the song before. Dudley would be a disaster, Kitzhaber is okay I’m told. The other races I voted PRO: Progressive Movement of Oregon. If my Congressman, David Wu, loses because of it, that’s just too bad. It was time for that Blue Doggie to go up to the farm anyway.
Is it more important to shoot straight or be straight?
Why, hello, Doc-Tor. Hoping your weekend was a good one. Not too much time grading papers and such?
Vote for Cthulhu!
which reminds me, Margaret — how is that Kay Bee-aitch (see what I did there, demi?) hanging on so quietly? I thought she was done with DeeCee despite her loss to Teh Hare.
I really do not have any choices other than Democrats, batshit crazy Republicans, and even more batshit crazy Libertarians and Constitution Partiers. As to the Blue Doggies, we need to send all of them to the pound.
I think it depends if you’re a Cheney or not.
Why, yes, I did notice. :) Nicely done.
It took everything I had to hold my nose and do it but I also voted for every Green candidate down slate. Let’s get a few local Greens and Progressives and we stand a chance of making a positive change. I concluded long ago that rewarding the teabaggers wasn’t the solution.
Not too much grading this weekend. Pretty quiet and did not do much as it has been cold and wet here.
Do you remember the name of the book? Sounds like one I would like…
Vote for Li’l Cthulhu.
Trust me, if our current governor was up for election, I would write Cthulhu in in a minute rather than vote for him or, gods of darkness forbid, the Republican.
No, it completely disrupts the flow because you have to keep going backwards to see if replies have been added. I’ve long hated it at other sites.
Perhaps I’m a luddite but I think nested comments totally suck. If there is some advantage I’ve missed I’d appreciate it if someone could enlighten me.
You could always run. It would be a hoot. We’ll throw in the tip jar.
and thunder and lightning :) i’m loving it — token’s not a happy camper tho
No, although I think they ought to be on the critical list.
Just continuing the Great Gay Reclamation Project, Doc. You know, when straight historians, literature studiers, and everyone else buries our heroes in their heteronormative woolies? I’ll never forget seeing Larry Kramer get furious — I think in the extra features on the DVD of the Mike Rogers Outing movie, maybe — at an audience that laughed at him when he mentioned George Washington and Abe Lincoln being gay. Larry was apoplectic: “The Father of Our Country had no children of his own, having married a widow who was fertile and had offspring. Both he and Lincoln — especially Lincoln — wrote fondly of their gentlemen friends. Why do we allow hetero-tyrannical American historians to bury our heroes from view of schoolchildren who need their example to grow and learn???”
Larry was livid. The audience was shocked.
I asked because it seems like my sister, who teaches 4th grade, and her partner who is a Dr. of Theology at Loyola Marymount spend a good deal of time on the weekend grading and reading papers.
We could have gone to see J. Brown at the Rally in the Valley, but we drove down to Marina Del Rey to see my sissy and his new loft there. Better than fighting traffic, parking messes and huge crowds. I must be getting old. We had Fatburgers and wine on the roof instead. A view to die for.
“Their souls make his little tummy happy!”
Thanks for the link, now I finally know how to pronounce the name.
Good lord no! I am a socialist with a whole graveyard in that closet. The graveyard would not be a problem if I was a Republican, but Montana is not voting socialist anytime in the foreseeable future.
Aside from football and the occasional baseball game I watch almost zero TV, but I gotta say I’m the same way with his voice on the radio. Nails on a chalkboard are easier to listen to than that.
I think it was sorta the last gasp of the Boston-marriage days, everything on the up-and-up, lots of plausable deniability etc – dunno about the rest of her life or attractions, but this woman (Dorothy Freeman IIRC) was her mate and world for much of her adult life .. really nice story, actually .. and Rachel, just such an awesomely wonderful, curious person
Poor Token, I remember how my little SuzieBelle hated the thunder. And fireworks? Don’t get me started!
i don’t like them either for the saME reason. but i honestly think i’ll get used to it somehow.
After He Loses Election.
Don’t ask don’t tell is an act of Congress and it will take an act of Congress to get rid of it.
Err, no. Once a court has declared a law unconstitutional (and appeals have been exhausted), it doesn’t matter if Congress takes the statute off the books or not, it no longer an enforceable law. Ironically, I have doubts thatMurphy’s Amendment itself is constitutional.
I admit, I stand with Brother Cheney in favor of the unitary executive theory of the presidency (Article II begins, The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America”.). Postal carriers deliver mail, park rangers assist tourist and FAA controllers simply because the President himself just doesn’t have enough time in the day to get it all done himself. But all of those tasks and far more are his personal responsibility to carry out. As for the military, of course, the Constitution gives him absolute authority as commander in chief.
What Murphy Amendment does is give a cabinet official and a military officer veto power over a presidential decision on military policy, if they refuse to sign the required certification. I don’t think the Constitution allows Congress to pass a law that requires the Commander in Chief to play “mother may I” with subordinates civil and military officers.
I do tend to mention in some of my classes that Margaret Mead was bisexual (went completely lesbian later in life) and Ruth Benedict was a lesbian. they had an on and off relationship for years.
My dogs hated thunderstorms. Bob seems completely unfazed by thunder. Storms pretty regularly in the rainforest, evolution probably would have frowned on his ancestors if they went berzerk whenever it happened.
Isn’t that great! I love Li’l Cthulhu!
The Band, Their Most Known Tune.
My cat gets a bit wierded out if we have bad thunderstorms, but that rarely happens here.
Did you happen to catch the 60 Minutes Lara Logan interview of Jane Goodall tonight? Jane’s always been a heroine of mine, although I never knew until tonight she had no scientific training when she went to Africa!
Anyway, Lara was asking about Jane’s National Geo publicity, Jane was saying she had done it all for the chimps, of course, although she wasn’t above flirting if she needed to in order to accomplish her goals. Lara replied, “You flirted?” And Jane said, “Of course, and I bet you did too!”
I thought that was incredibly cheeky of old Jane, knowing (as I’m sure she did) Lara’s story. Lara, suitably chastened, ended the exchange with “This is your story, not mine….”
Shit, the time permitted for editing comments appears shorter than ever. I refuse to let it drive me berserk, though. Well, maybe just a bit.
gotta get up erarly tomorow, so i’m off. fdl is cool and i’ll be back to play another time. but where did today, go, man? jeez. before i knew it, it was 4:00. oh well. take it easy,all. g’night,
Li’l Cthulhu definitely has my vote!
I used to have a golden retriever that was so terrified of thunder that I had to tranquilize him or he would do serious damage. I ran out of pills one day and it stormed that night. George got between the toilet and the wall and tore it OUT of the floor! I miss him dearly but I sure don’t miss having to rush home when a storm is coming to dope him up.
Thank you, I got consumed with the outside edges of Capehart’s idiocy.
You are right, of course — his statement about DADT needing Congressional repeal is just as stupid.
Niters, pleasant dreams.
Night!
Kuroneko sometimes gets nervous when thunder is close but by then I’m nervous too.
And we know what happens when evolution frowns on our ancestors: we end up being Glenn Beck!
Goodnight. :)
I find it totally understandable for women, especially after child bearing years, would find it very appealing to live with a female partner. Especially if they had leanings in that direction anyway.
I also find it interesting that certain men who marry particularly unattractive women are thought to be homosexual. Just stuff I hear from time to time. Don’t know if there’s any factuality in that.
C U later BFL
I’d take all of my money and get a personality change operation.
Been watching local radar online site from TV3 here in Sac . . . you can zoom out and see the whole continent, pick a place and zoom back in . . . lotta green and yellow around Netart’s for two days now!
We have been cloudy and windy with rains all day . . . likely close to two inches in past 24 hours to now.
Not as much or heavy as you are getting though . . . gusts to 30 max, most 15-20. So house is still standing? But Token’s not? Poor doggie . . . .
;-)
Much as I’d enjoy owning magic underwear it ain’t worth it.
Oh my, do you know why? Did you have him from pupdom? Or was there something in his past that connected storms to danger somehow?
(
Century!)
Hmmm…that sounds like something that would be discussed at Hooters or something. I doubt there’s any truth in it.
Wow, I’ve known so many people who could benefit from that. Some aren’t even siblings…
I think we have only had one real thunderstorm during her 6 year life, but she really kind of freaked. As I say, they are a rare occurrence here in the mountains.
I actually took him away from a bunch of kids who were throwing firecrackers at him when he was a puppy. I scooped him up and gave the children a few choice remarks and got back in my car and kept him for 15 years, until he died of doggie cancer.
I always thought the thing about unattractive women stemmed from the assumptions made about them, that it was a Boston-marriage (between a lesbian and a gay man). I suppose people will always find mean things to say about other unattractive humans, but questioning other peoples’ marriages and relationships has always seemed incredibly fraught, to me.
A long-ago girlfriend said to me, once: “Who knows what goes on in someone’s marriage, really?” I take that to heart.
Mead spent her final years living alone, but had a reputation for picking up sweet young things at professional meetings.
I’m in central Texas of course but when I had George, I was in Houstopolis mostly. Lotsa thunder there!
Now, That’s Funny!, Teddy.
Firecrackers = thunder, I guess. How awful.
And good for you!
Don’t know any Hooters types. But, on the other hand, not everyone I know is as intelligent and caring as people here are. Just saying I’ve heard people say stuff like that. People hook up with other people for all manner of reasons, I think.
I had a boss who was gay but married to a woman. She had her partners and he his. I never knew why they married but they were very happy together and had been that way for 30 years at least. They were childless so that wasn’t why they married.
Absolutely! Life’s very complicated. I can’t even vouch for myself, somedays. To understand what’s going on for others is something I try to stay away from. I know several couples who seem to have that Boston marriage thing. Basically, if people seem to happy with their circumstances, then I’m happy for them.
Yeah. I grew up in Oklahoma and went to graduate school at OU, so I am used to some pretty spectacular thunderstorms. Actually knew a few of the original storm chasers there. Weather here is generally kind of boring, though quite pleasant much of the year.
LMAO! It just sounds like some of the things Lisa used to say. Lisa had a doctorate in language and was absolutely stunningly beautiful. She was so sick of academia by the time she got her doctorate, she started pole dancing for a living.
Yeah, that’s what I figured too. That was the one time in my life that I wanted to paddle a child. I didn’t do it of course but I sure wanted to! Sick little bastards.
Experience has taught me that compatible matches are fucking difficult (probably impossible for me) to find. Anybody who has something that works for them receives my (secular) blessing.
Got some last chores to do, so heading out. Thanks to Teddy for LN duty. Splendid evening to all.
I happen to enjoy thunderstorms. But, then I like to read Dean Koontz and Stephen King right before bedtime. Nothing in the real world, or on paper is as scary as some of stuff that comes out of my subconscious.
being as this is token’s 3rd winter here, he has gotten better. he no longer barks at the thunder and rarely at the wind now.
but he’s been right on my heels all day, no matter where i went he followed.
baileycat is found a hidey hole (i think she’s behind the sofa) to ride out the storm
Night. Give Bob a peck.
Sweet chocolatey dreams, RF.
Have we seen any lesbians take a strong stand against DADT?
When I was in my late teens/early 20s I read Stephen King on acid. Read The Shining and The Stand in their entirety like that… added an extra dimension.
Sigh, the reckless abandon and self-indulgence of youth. It was fun while it lasted.
Aloha, Teddy and LN brethren…! Felt like a total noob today…! I think I can finally take my training wheels off…! ;-)
*waving g’nite to the leaving sleepy pups*
Yes. But, I forget her name. Young lady with short brown hair who dropped out of West Point.
I like them too. That was one thing I really missed when I was living in San Diego.
So many reasons to luv you.
Laters rattie.
Oh man! I got sent home from work one day because I had pneumonia. On the way home from the doctor, I stopped off to pick up a fat book to read while I was home sick. I bought The Stand. Oops!
Nite Suze!
Oh, you like the scary?
Boo!
I’ve got the yawnies. See yaz all tomorrow, then.
Thanks, Teddy. For everything. Bye.
I should toddle off as well. Take care all.
Night DrD!
Right. Rachel had her on.
Nighters, Sooz and Rattie.
Night demi! Since everybody else is turning in, I guess that’s it for me too. Oya koinu!
Good night, demi.
Night dd and margaret.
oh margaret — i love that book but after i finished reading it the first time, i was very very aware of all the coughs. no matter where i went, i heard them. was freaking out when flu season hit.
i can only imagine what a horror it was reading it when forking sick. ohmystars
((Loo Hoo))
i wasn’t leaving… was saying g’nite to those who left when i was afk
Katherine Miller?
Wait Margaret! I’ve just arrived!
Well! What a day, huh? I have tried to update my profile, and add a picture (nightmare for me) that MrCE helped me provide. I’ve had lots of friend requests, which frankly, made me cry. I love it here. (yea, Preview!)
Everybody’s showing ya the door, eh…? ;-)
I’m glad the mothership doesn’t have the ‘nested’ comments…!
i loved your picture :)
Back to Teddy’s post: I still cannot understand why Obama couldn’t/didn’t instruct his ‘warriors’ to simply put DADT on the back burner for several years. Let the soldiers work it out peacably. Anyone who was homophobic should be discharged. Anyone who wanted to flame for attention should be discharged. Serious soldiers should just get on with their duties. Obama failed in his leadership role.
I like this format better…the numbers, the text for referral, preview. Jane mentioned in a comment that they would try out the nesting comments, so maybe it is not set in concrete yet.
Gates rules. Interesting that he can create a moratorium but the POTUS can’t…
Me too! Which one is you, CE? The mom or the daughter?
That old polaroid surfaced when we started adding photos to MrCE’s Facebook account. It was a glorious day, and we had a blast looking over the mountain via telescope. Thanks Suzanne!
me too
I agree…! It was hard following the conversation on that thread…! I hope she refrains from going that route…!
Heh Heh! I’m always the mom.
Me, three. For some reason, my reply button has conked. I’m wondering if they are formatting for PCs rather than for Macs?
I’m thrilled to see Reply and Preview1 Thanks, gang!
I think that the sooner the Administration focuses on the idea that the civil rights laws are meant to cover everybody, the sooner this issue gets resolved. In order for civil rights to work, everyone’s civil rights must be respected. So the issue is not so much one of gay rights but civil rights, which the law is supposed to respect regardless if someone is gay.
The Log Cabin Republican group seems to be supporting a party that acts against the interest of civil rights (of all) in general, and of course, gays in particular, what with the various comments being made by the right-wing and nutty candidates.
It also seems to me that the Log Cabin people should have just withheld their endorsements (as valuable or useless as they may be) in that kind of environment. Why they didn’t is somewhat of a mystery.
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What’s black is white when it comes to all of those people…what’s left is right.
So Orwellian…the head spins. Oh well, just in time for Halloween.
The same could be said about the Dems these days too…!
Margaret Witt
GREAT diary! Can’t wait to have that recommend icon thingy over here in the future so I can select it!!
Thanks, Lurk. Didn’t seem to work, though. But perhaps I’m ready to crash another computer. Dang!
The Log Cabin Republicans brought, and paid for, the suit in which Judge Virginia Phillips declared DADT unconstitutional. Whatever else you think they support, or whatever you think of the party that is their last name, the fact remains: they’ve done more to advance the cause of ending this stain on our military than anyone yet.
Good for Margaret.
Why is the explanation I provided hard to believe? Why couldn’t the LCR have felt betrayed by Patrick Murphy’s kowtowing to the administration when he already had the votes for repeal? Isn’t that what people do? Work to defeat officeholders that betrayed them?
I felt that way, and I wasn’t involved in a huge lawsuit against Team Obama to repeal DADT.
CTuttle is upstairs!
Late, Late Night FDL: Are You Sure Hank Done It This Way
So only Nixon could go to China, maybe.
This is just my guess, knowing what I do about Pennsylvania, that the issue is made into a wedge one there. That’s what these guys are afraid of. They don’t want to be losing a district by 49% to 51% because they got hit with wedge issue flotsam via their TVs or particularly, these right-winger clowns that act as little mouthpieces in all the Catholic churches there.
I don’t think the issue is so cut and dry. One can go at Murphy, and say, what kind of liberal are you? But then, turning around and supporting Fitzpatrick, as though a Republican House is going to deliver America from DADT (itself a compromise the Republicans forced on Clinton), isn’t exactly a strategy either. IMHO.
This all became the hot button issue it is today, by the way, because of a lot of insistence and line-drawing that the more militant among the gay activists did in January and February of 1993, when Bill Clinton was first inaugurated. This became it’s own little theme, because some small group decided, right at that time with a new Democratic president, that, no no no!, NOW (1993) was the time to fix the gays in the military matter. Did it get fixed then? No. 1993. Now it’s 2010. Still a problem.
Rather than people think it through three chess moves down the game, these people say, no! We must have our way! They think the 1960′s civil rights movement happened that way. That movement was in fact small victories, with heartfelt support within both political parties; and then, later, the loudmouths and showboaters showed up to make like they were the ones making it happen.
If the Republican establishment were actually, honestly in favor of DADT repeal, then I could see going for Fitzpatrick over Murphy. But Fitzpatick isn’t making the visit to the Birmingham Jail, so to speak. So voting for him is just throwing votes away.
That and the fucking flags.
The son-of-a-bitch has cut a bunch of commercials for the local Dem candidates for governor and Congress.
Unfortunately, the people here appear to think that’s a positive endorsement.
One unusual thing I’ve noticed: the ads for Republicans [and there are a LOT of them] mention that Democrats [gov. candidate Abercrombie & Congressional candidates Hanabusa and Hirono] “voted to raid/cut social security.” Can someone tell me when THAT occurred, and can we count on Republicans to rise up in outrage when the Catfood Commission comes back with its recommendations?
My point is simple: in a tribal system like our own party duopoly, an endorsement of a Republican by the Log Cabin Republicans seems, um, not news. The news would be if they endorsed Murphy. They barely have a place at the GOP table as it is, can you imagine the pariahs they’d be if they started endorsing Dems?
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You don’t honestly believe that LCR would have supported Murphy over the republican if Murphy hadn’t backed down, do you? Do you have an example of where they have ever done such?
The democrats are going to lose anyway. I would rather it be without support from the gay community so we will be in the position to say….fuck with us again and you’ll lose again.
And if any of you kool aid drinking democratic apologists have a problem with this, take it up with Barack Obama.
I disagree. Capehart does have a point. As bad as the Democrats are, and trust me they are bad, the Republicans, in no shape, form, or fashion, support equality for gays and lesbians, in any arena, or any facet of life, period. Having said that, The Log Cabin Republicans should get the dollar signs out of their eyes, and start to support candidates who support their causes, even if they are not Republicans or Democrats.
Except it is the Log Cabin Republican who have done the most to repeal DADT.
HRC is too busy having cocktails with Obama, who by the way, has appealed every court victory in our favor.
I’ve been racking my brain recently trying to figure out who is the bigger Obama apologist between Capehart and Jon Alter. When the original tape of Shirley Sherrod speaking at an NAACP meeting was released a few months go in which it seemed she spoke of harboring racial resentments which may have affected the quality of service she gave a white farmer, Capehart was one of the first commentators falling all over himself to say “she has to go!”, in an attempt, I guess, to avoid the accusation of being uncritical on black racism. When the whole tapes were released and it was clear that Mrs Sherrod was in fact just talking about that moment as part of the process of reconciliation (and after the narrative of other media elites had become more favorable toward Mrs Sherrod), presto-chango, suddenly Mr Capehart didn’t think she was such a bad person, and suddenly the problem was those big bad conservatives (Breitbart & FOX news). He focused, focused, focused on the conservatives and didn’t really want to point to hard at the Obama administrations throwing of this mid-level bureaucrat under the bus. My point? This guy complete carries the water for Obama administration, and is totally taken in with the cool factor associated with the “smart set” liberal elite that Obama represents. How that elite sells out its base or breaks its own campaign promises does not concern him.