I was on MSNBC with Alex Witt commenting on today’s rally in Washington DC. It will inevitably be compared to Glenn Beck’s rally, but that’s not really fair. The Beck rally represented the pinnacle of a well-funded 2 year plan to organize the tea parties by building up local groups around the country, pumping out a consistent message through right wing media outlets like Fox News, and promoting celebrities like Glenn Beck.
Of course they can produce a hundred thousand people at the mall. But that kind of coordinated effort doesn’t spring up overnight.
Last year, in the midst of the AIG bonus scandal and shortly before the big Tax Day Tea Party on April 15, a group called A New Way Forward tried to organize progressive demonstrations in 80 cities across the country. One of the chief organizers was Tiffiny Cheng, who reached out to me, and we did our best to help them promote it. Marcy and I appeared at rallys in Michigan and DC. Tiffiny and others at ANWF worked their butts off and did an amazing job, but they got no help from the institutional players.
The unions and other big liberal groups sat it out because the White House didn’t want them organizing against Wall Street. Even though the unions in particular had well-developed campaigns under way targeting banks, hedge funds and private equity groups, the White House was trying to get Wall Street to participate in its PPIP program. After a meeting at the White House with Jamie Dimon, Lloyd Blankfein and others where they basically told Obama they wouldn’t play ball unless the Democrats toned down their anti-bank rhetoric, the word went out that the liberal groups should put a sock in it.
I remember standing out there in the rain on April 11 in front of the White House with Bill Greider, David Swanson and a handful of people from Code Pink and thinking “we are so screwed.” While Fox News was harvesting anti-bank rage 24/7, the unions were getting phone calls from the White House telling them to stop anti-bank campaigns that they already had underway. And they did.
I’ve written many, many times about how this was the moment when the alarm bells went off for me. I started writing about the “veal pen,” and how dangerous it was for liberal groups to subvert the interests of their own members to the political objectives of the Democratic party. Ultimately, the banks never participated in the PPIP program anyway. They all followed Jamie Dimon’s lead after he casually waved his hand and said he wasn’t going to play.
We’re seeing the direct result of those poor decisions by veal pen groups today. You can’t cede the battleground to the Tea Parties when rage is at its peak and think you can come in a year and a half later and compete. During the AIG bonus scandal, it was like somebody tossed a pile of money in the air, and that “money” was public outrage. The only ones who scrambled for it were Fox News, Freedomworks and Americans for Prosperity. When people wanted to know what they could do, the only ones who were giving them an answer to that question were on the right.
Of course, the message of the Tea Parties is incoherent. You would have to have lived under a rock for the 8 years Bush was in office to think that the GOP was going to put the screws to Wall Street. CNN recently did a poll and found that the most popular 2012 candidate among those who identify with the Tea Party is Mitt Romney. Really? The guy from Bain Capital is going to save us from the banks? Who believes that?
With today’s rally, the liberal groups are trying to present their message as an answer to public discontent. But there’s no way they can hope to compete with the numbers of people that the right could turn out for the Beck rally, because they haven’t laid the groundwork. There will be other opportunities — the problem with the banks is not going away any time soon, and certainly not if there’s a speaker Boehner. But the time to scramble is when someone throws the money in the air. And if liberal groups want Americans to hear their message, they’ve got to be fearless and authentic about presenting it.



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It would be real nice if Lloyd Blankfein and Jami Dimon and such would put it a sock in it themselves or rather, they should maybe shove something where the sun don’t shine. Along with a few folks in the White House or formerly in the WH as well. /rant
Bullseye!
Hi Jane – Yes, you were right about the veal pen groups willfully subverting the will of thier members. The ‘veal pen’ name has stuck.
I am watching a live stream of the One Nation rally right now, it’s on the ourfuture.org site. Harry Belafonte gave a fantastic speech a little shile ago, and there have been other great speeches as well. Right now Amy goodman is being interviewed live at the rally by Laura Flanders.
http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/41382
My bold
Yeah but Glen still can’t get 300,000- 500,000 thousand now can he or protests in 102 cities can he:)
Not that the Press will mention that. I hope somebody on ourside will mention those facts on tv.
yeah, well, I was screaming my head off about not ceding ground to the baggers, suggesting even that we join their protests with well honed populist messages raging against big government bipartisan kleptocracy. And, what did that get me at FDL? – a Moderator’s leash.
Owe Boo a beverage but it’s worth repeating.
Never. Give. Up.
Very well said, Jane (unfortunately). How does it feel to be a Cassandra?
RE: A New Way Forward, last year:
“The unions and other big liberal groups sat it out because the White House didn’t want them organizing against Wall Street.”
Excuse me? I think the unions and other ‘big liberal groups’ had better start ignoring the White House!
And somebody ought to remind the President that ‘ineffectual leadership’ is not only an oxymoron, but soon voted out of office.
Also: The University of I Don’t Remember will probably estimate today’s rally about about fifty or sixty people. Ask Glenn Beck. He’ll tell ya.
I can’t understand why the D.C. establishment is still allowing rally permits to be granted to progressive groups.
I missed your appearance on MSNBC. Watching the rally on cspan. Van Jones was good, Ed Schultz was great. I didn’t see the crowd at Beck’s rally but this crowd seems impressive.
Thanks for mentioning this!
Yeah, the pro-immigrant rallies got hundreds of thousands of marchers each in every major city where they were held — yet there was next to nothing in the national media about them. But let Glenn Beck fart into a microphone and Anderson Cooper swoops over to talk about how fragrant the smell is.
Impressive young man speaking right now who was supposed to be deported. Let’s throw out all our accomplished youth.
I hope this isn’t turning into a blame the other, side pro-Democrat rally!!!
The city government, and the citizenry, are not all that happy with Congress and mayhaps it’s their method of payback.
Jane, I’ve come to think of you as the nation’s unofficial ombudsman. If only there really were such a cabinet post… and not inhabited by a bankster.
But aren’t mall permits under the aegis of the USG, not the city govt?
Anyhow, we’ve both made our points, the next disc is loaded on my ipod & I’m off again. *g*
This is wrong!!
This should really be a scalpel rally aimed exclusively at the Oligarchs, instead it will be diffused by stalking horse bull.
O’s internment camps for progressives won’t be complete until the day after the ’12 election. Of course, even if he loses his reelection bid I imagine that’s one Obama policy (his fellow) Republicans will be happy to retain.
No more War…”Turn your swords into plowshares”…is another way of saying make peace and prosperity, jobs cause it is the economy stupid. Get on Fox and let them have a shot in return for the podium. Don’t get mad get even Jane.
The dems are like the “Weekend at Bernie’s” guys, dragging around a corpse and propping it up and getting away with it. Except this movie just keeps going on and lacks even comic relief.
Jane, your statement “how dangerous it was for liberal groups to subvert the interests of their members” is prescient and key to the message.
How dangerous it is for the President to subvert the intent of the Constitution, to subvert the “common good” for the sake of misusing executive power and pandering to the interests of big corporations and banks over the interests of the American people.
And the Blue Dog Democratic congressmen, who with their every breath and action, pervert the very platform of their party by answering to and being influenced by lobbyists instead of the people they were elected to represent.
AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
Citizen Hamsher and the Firepup Freedom Fighters:
Great job, Sister Jane…now this is the kinda thing that grassroots, progressive insurgents like yourself can do to advance the message to regular folks out here who have been waitin’ for someone to tell ‘em that they matter and that they have more options than stayin home from the polls. Further, I think you underestimate your and the rest of the progressive movement cadre’s power to mobilze masses of folks in a short period of time. If the cooperative and coordinated effort had begun a month or more ago between folks like MoveOn, FDL, KOS, DFA and the Jon Stewart and Colbert folks I’m convinced that you coulda had half a million out there. This would also have been an opportunity to pull out the wedge ObamaRahma has driven between the labor unions. But anyway, good on ya and your efforts to create a real progressive politics…you are much more effective when you are bringin folks together instead of tellin’ ‘em that their only options involve flushing their birthright down the drain or joustin’ with toothpicks against political windmills.
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE FUCKIN AMMUNITION, THERE IS CHANGE ACOMIN!!
Does the corpse represent their populist past? That carcass has been picked pretty clean, no wonder they’re having trouble making the sale.
Who are the speakers and what exactly is the ‘unified’ message?
LOLROFLMAO!!! Great analogy, sad but true at the same time ☻ ☻
I bet that the unified message is to support the lesser evil in the midterms, which is precisely how the Kleptocrats from both Parties sucker the citizenry into accepting a rentier future.
Great appearance, Jane — thanks for being quick on the “what can Obama do tomorrow” response, too. Putting a stop-loss end to all DADT discharges until the Pentagon completes its report would be a belated acknowledgment that the policy is wrong and Congress can’t fix it.
He’s the Commander-in-Chief, as you point out, and the military reports to him. Let him issue the order and keep track of who doesn’t salute fast. They don’t get their next star.
That presumes I was alone. I wasn’t…believe me, tons of people felt the same way. They just didn’t feel like they could say it.
God, I cannot get the images of Katyn out of my head. All these well intentioned people herded into GOTV, digging their own graves.
People are bussed in to those things. They don’t just “show up.” Blogs don’t have either the money, the organizing infrastructure or the grassroots presence to pull off that kind of thing. Much as people would like to believe otherwise, it’s just not what we do.
zactement .. Obama was the last shiny thing in their bag ‘o bullshit .. but absolutely nobody’s buyin it anymore ..
Jane, you did a great job as shown in the clip. I just wish that with the last question you had been able to quickly include a statement about getting rid of the catfood commission that you had already criticized.
Jane, thanks for not only being fast on your feet but making such a clearly-stated, simple, irrefutable demand of Obama re DADT.
THIS.
Keep after it, Jane.
I think we can bring some people along if we constantly talk about “Wall St. Values” and “Main Street Values.”
One of the many differences between 1930s and now is that our local business communities are pitted against big box stores, banks and etc. Then, Main St. was THE street.
For Wall St. the only thing that matters is money and scamming/skimming as much as possible from everyone else, moving the money ONLY from bottom to top. We need to get back to talking about businesses that value our employees and the communities where we operate.
Raw story head:
“Live: Dems march on DC to support Obama
Liberal host rallies crowd: ‘Are you ready to fight back?’
“Calif. closes budget gap, eliminating virtually all help for poor”
Blue State, yeay!
Thanks for this, Jane. Excellent work as always. Thanks for showing up and representing those of us “small folks” who live too far away to be there in person. We’re with you all the way!
Thanks for the laugh, PW. The rightwing corporate-owned media – as represented by Anderson Cooper & Glenn Beck – is like one self-congratulatory circle jerk… made up of jerks.
There were a number of anti-war rallies in March on the anniversary of the beginning of the Iraq War, and some were sizeable. Yet not one tiny peep in the rightwing corporate-owned media. Funny thing about that – eh?
Guess this march was just a liiiitle too big to ignore, but the numbers in attendance will be down-graded and down-played for sure.
This march had buses sponsored by the NAACP, unions, and other established liberal groups. But most folks had to pay their own way. (For example, it was $45 roundtrip from NC).
As far as crowd size, I can’t tell because the none of the pictures of the crowd have been taken from the Capitol west portico. You can’t tell how many people are between the Washington Monument and the Capitol.
Great appearance, Jane.
x2
FOX News will completely ignore this rally, the networks will downplay it, CNN will have a very balanced panel of 17 pundits to discuss it, and MSNBC will claim there were three million people there.
Yeah thought about it afterwards. I should’ve.
There was a rally?
Here are a few things that burn me up:
1. Why did Ed shultz for the last month act like this was his rally and he put it together? He was just basically someone that was asked to come speak for a few minutes.
2.Why did Ed Shults open his big mouth and say over and over again he would get more people there then Glenn Beck, when there was just no possible way that was gonna happen in 1 month.
3. Why didn’t All the msnbc shows talk this rally up at all besides Ed?
I find it shameful that Keith, Rachael and tweety bird barley even gave it more then a few seconds over the last month if that.
The media tent the Democrats live under is so small and if those 3 shows Do not push a rally that had such short notice, then such rally will fail over and over.
Book Salon up with David Callahan’s Fortunes of Change: The Rise of the Liberal Rich and the Remaking of America hosted by Stanley Greenberg
Terrific interview, Jane. I’ll echo what others said about thinking fast on that DADT response to Alex Witt’s question about what Obama could do tomorrow. (Of course, that would presume Obama has any control over military affairs rather than the other way ’round.)
Also, good deflection there on Witt’s question about “concerns that these groups would NOT support President Obama and candidates in the upcoming election.” Clearly, her blog savvy producers wanted to corner you into the spoiler position, and you stepped right over them and kept the interview moving in the direction it needed to go. Nice job.
The larger point you made, which you expanded on in the article above, is one of a disastrous political strategy, that probably went over viewer’s heads:
This is certainly one of those missteps for which there is no redo — like adjourning the Health Care Reform push for August recess, allowing the Tea Parties to ascend, paving the way for such a depraved Bill that was passed; or missing the FDR boat by not nationalizing the largest banks, even for a short time, immediately after the inauguration. That made all fiscal reform impossible and led the way to the Catfood Commission.
Through this all, though, I wonder if the 10-30-10 rally will be a biggy.
Anyone?
In Paris today, it’s reported that 100′s of thousands protest on the streets. In D.C. NPR reports thousands protest. Is it NPR or the U.S.?
Great point about the long-term organizing required.
Now my question is: who’s organizing massive protests against the Catfood Commission?
Jane –
What can Obama do tomorrow?
Disband the Catfood Commission.
Ain’t a-gonna happen, but just sayin’.
You got it.
How many times does Obama have to punk the unions before they accept the harsh reality that he’s out to destroy them?
No EFCA vote and the hard sell for charter schools, backed by hedge funds, with an agenda to bust the teacher’s union. They should be demonstrating against Obama, not falling in line. They are handing the last vestiges of organized labor over to corporate control.
I just happened to get in here because I wanted to see just how many people were going to show up for this rally. What always seems to come about is when someone really pulls off a great event there are always those who will condon it for one reason or another. It of course takes financial resources primarily to pull something off really big, secondly, it is the support behind it. I don’t know who the organizers of this rally were but the excuses always follow. I’m sure they knew the Beck thing and Martin Luther King Day were coming up. The only thing I ask is what took you so long? This is a country that we pride ourselves on working out our indifferences. If we would extend our wasted hate energy toward a positive outcome many of your issues could be addressed. Quite frankly the issues of this country have been created primarily by a bias media and a failed education system. I think if many of you would go back to the founding documents and pick up the book Original Intent you will find many of your answers troubling this country. Our forefathers came to this country for a specific reason and laid the ground work whereby this country would be different from all others and be governed by a certain and specific set of laws/rules. If your views are so indifferent to these laws then I could only suggest you look elsewhere. This country is in serious trouble caused by all parties but we are Americans first and will right this ship. As a retired military vet I took an oath that I would protect and defend the United States of American against both foreign and domestic enemies. No one ever addresses that domestic enemy and I will tell you it’s our government and in particular this administration who’s idiology has little if anything to do with the founding documents and the protection and security of this great country. If your agenda is one of those outside the box (the framework of our government) then I again suggest there are many other countries that will accept you.
The domestic enemies of this country are those who blather on about the constitution and the founding fathers to justify a right wing fascist agenda.I wonder if you have really read the constitution and understand what the articles represent historically, what the Bill of Rights really conveys…I doubt it because you are much to busy dressing up in powder wigs, with your fifes and draping yourself in the flag….while railing against this president but what I wonder most if this president were white and had the very same progressive agenda and policies would you be so rabid….I doubt it. As a Southerner I recognize ..no, I smell racism and bigotry a mile off and you folks smell to high heaven.
donna brazile:
” Did you attend the One Nation rally? How do you feel now? Can they renew the spirit of hope and change? Are u fired up and ready to go?”
The real question is?
Who can afford to attend these sorts of rallies that are never going to get us anywhere? I stopped going to these things after the march on Washington in November 1969. At least then we had a coherent policy goal–end the Vietnam War. What is the goal now? I can only think of two worth marching far: 1) End the USA empire, and 2) End neoliberal economics. And I seriously doubt that either goal would be helped by folks spending their hard-earned bucks traveling to DC to wave some signs.
well here’s something I never thought I’d type – props to Alex Witt. . . for laying off the usual memes and giving Jane time to flesh things out and connect the dots.
David Dayen is upstairs!
Following the Money from the Campaign Committees
Do great nations inject people from other nations with diseases for their own profit? I am sure the tea bagger interpretation of the holy bible would give them some justification to think that though.
Eaclty! I did not see a rally with bullet points today, I saw some bands playing along with some speakers talking.
Very few if any fiery bullet points delivered with authority, that is whats needed to be slathered over all the news stations and get people interested in supporting a cause.
This rally was very poorly promoted. I’m on quite a few mailing lists and read TPM and Americablog regularly, and FDL about once a week. I am the sort who would have attended, I live just outside the DC beltway. First I ever heard there would be a rally this Saturday was an email from Health Care for America Now just after 2PM Friday. A poorly promoted rally may be worse than no rally; it makes the left look weak by attracting far fewer attendees than it might have if word had gotten out.
David Dayen is upstairs!
EPA, DOT Raising Fuel Economy Standard to 60 MPG?
Teddy,
The questionnaire is bogus and designed to produce a get-rid-of-homosexuals result.
I haven’t reviewed the whole thing, just parts of it. Didn’t like what I saw.
Im a die hard liberal, and this was awful..I was hoping for 100′s of thousands and were lucky if we got 75,000. This kills me but I think we are in trouble, and so much anger it really turned me off, sorry.
just read what they are saying…this as I watched, was a real punch in the gut.
http://www.examiner.com/government-in-atlantic-city/one-nation-rally-was-a-big-flop
http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/publius-forum/2010/10/lefty-rally-at-lincoln-memorial-gets-glad-handed-by-old-media-but-event-a-bust.html
http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/todays-obama-backed-leftist-one-nation-rally-a-bustupdate-further-proof/question-1259721/
http://buzz.yahoo.com/article/1:ebe3d7d9918e288972a59e1ca7fad839:a5d91f456de4102032eca483635fb947/One-Nation-of-Socialists-Sparse-Crowd-of-Thousands-in-DC-to-Push-Rules-For-Radicals-Agenda
I got a second email about this rally at 12:24am this morning from Ed Shultz via bold progressives. Really, finally got the word out in the wee hours, less than 12 hours before the event? Did they want want people to attend?
I also checked the website and could not find who would be speaking or when.
At least we have another chance to show our numbers at Jon Stewart’s rally October 30.
I was at the store the other day wearing my JUST SAY NOW.COM t shirt and some guy in the parking lot wanted to show support, he raised his arm and called “Go Bears!”
My guess is the network does not want to support it so they play good cop, bad cop on us.
Of course the ‘good’ is a loud mouth blow-hard, so even if his heart is in the right place ( a questionable proposition) it still isn’t helping. I see a lot of manipulative ‘support’ from MSNBC, giving just enough fodder to the loud mouths who then say stuff like this:
Think of it as a game of volley ball.
With free Huff Post busses from New York? I expect so.
I wonder why there isn’t regular reporting on ALL the DC rallies somewhere. It would be interesting to compare their different attendance numbers, issues and media coverage. I’m surprised it isn’t covered in that way, it is a subject ripe for analysis.
I think the Unions recognize the fundamental difference between Obama and the Democratic Party. If he is trying to take the party down, perhaps they can save it by SELECTIVELY supporting progressive candidates, basically all of which happen to be Democrats.
Lets look at it this way, we want reform, they want reform. For the most part the Unions and the Progressives want the same kinds of reforms and are only going to have minor differences on most major issues.
We need to reform the Democratic Party. Let them try to do it from the inside while we try to do it from the outside. Call it a pincer move, it is the kind of thing a good general would suggest we do to win the battle. So lets do it.
Why not?
Jane,
I attended the rally and I can say that it was a coming together of multiple strands that portend well for the future. My first march was back in the 60′s against the U.S. involvement in Vietnam. Most of us were Caucasians, as I recall. But at today’s rally, I could see a radically transformed America displaying the political leadership of the future, both in the crowd and at the podium.
Latinos and African Americans were definitely in the majority at the rally today, standing arm and arm with the younger, up and coming generation known in some circles as Millennials. This voting bloc of Millennials gave Obama his victory margin. (They were born after 1980 and are the largest generation in history and the most diverse ethnically and racially. They are also the least prone to dogmatic ideologies.)
By 2020, Millennials will be 40% of the population. Overlapping with Latinos and African Americans, these three groups will call the shots electorally, even if large segments within each group get pulled to the right (which I think is unlikely).
Politically, they are VERY VERY SAVVY AND DETERMINED. They are driven by a keen awareness of our history of exploitation and what has transpired more recently in terms of corporate special interests getting a stranglehold over government. I doubt very much that they are going to allow these interests and the lawmakers they have corrupted to maintain their stranglehold over our democracy. They’ve got the numbers and the smarts to overturn this system. That’s what I took away from today’s rally.
Call it a learning experience.
I watched it on line and thought it was terrific. My favorite was the Native American comedian. The theme was jobs, equality and coming together as one nation to solve our problems. I thought it was a very cool event and united the whole country in a way that was very impressive.
Firedoglake is the best liberal site by orders of magnitude, it would have been nice to see some FDL bloggers speaking and a stream on the homepage.
They are ending wellfare to work, and all subsidized child care for the very needy, and single moms who can’t possibly hold down a job without the childcare. I don’t know anyone on wellfare who can afford daycare in this state. I don’t even want to hear the retards talking about people on wellfare not going to work anymore. I so sick and saddened. But hey we can all fucking rejoice because the mother fuckers who can afford to pay more taxes got out unscathed. FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Would have been a good opportunity.
What I’m waiting for are the crowd numbers, which I am sure will be higher than Beck’s even though obviously less people were there. That’s a joke.
The news outlets shot themselves in the foot. By lowballing Beck’s crowd, they put a ceiling on any progressive crowd numbers as they couldn’t say a rally with visably less people had more attendees.
Honesty is always the best policy.
then your outside becomes their inside, – rinse, and repeat
The banks would have played ball regardless.
They were desperate. The WH just didn’t want a bunch of liberal/progressive anti-bank demonstrations going on while the WH was playing ball with the banks. I bet that was the real deal.
Obama is no progressive and he would rather go after them than the real culprits in his 1st 2 year fiasco of trying to get Republican support. It is never going to happen, even when they impeach him for the war crimes of George Bush which he failed to act upon, and still is doing much the same in Pakistan.
DADT he will never overturned by presidential action, though I would hope that the military has gotten the message that witch hunts and outings are over and the law has essentially been emasculated by the courts.
See Jane, that seems to be my issue with Obama: he has yet to really fulfill anything without massive deals for the Party of “No” ! I think part of it is that Reid just doesn’t have the you know what of Nancy Pelosi. He never will. He can’t even get Obama’s appointments through.
Moreover, Obama allows Blackwater to be rehired and defends all of the Bush criminal (or unconstitutional) policies in court.
I just feel Obama is a very weak president who got a lot of bad advice. And it isn’t winning any support with people like me.
You did a great job Jane.
We have a profoundly immoral, ethically bankrupt, criminal government. It has lost it’s legitimacy, imo. The Democrats want to perpetuate this status quo. The Republicans & ‘baggers, oth, think they need to drain it of all remaining decency, – they are wrong – there is none left!
The fucking monster Stalin, at least got one thing right: “One banker one problem. No banker, no problem”
I watched coverage via Free Speech TV of the One Nation Working Together March. FSTV was there, broadcasting out live from the National Mall, leading an independent media coalition…independent being the key word here. FSTV does not accept corporate or government funding. Who sponsors MSNBC??? It is hard to genuinely cover events like this or any news story for that matter, when you have to answer to your corporate sponsors. FSTV answers to their viewers — a true network powered by the people.
I saw plenty of authenticity and fearless messaging today, Jane. I think you were just tuned into the wrong channel….
Check out freespeech.org for clips, links, and blog posts about today’s One Nation Working Together event. If you happened to be tuned into MSNBC today, you missed this great interview with Ben Jealous (President of the NAACP): http://www.livestream.com/freespeechtv/video?clipId=flv_b058dd31-c19e-441a-a024-4217696e43e3
To larryv. In reference to your response. Maybe you should check out the last word of your comments and you might have a better understanding of where I am coming from. You can start with the last sentence of the Declaration. Obviously you are out of touch as to what is really going on because this President is being advised and financed by a large number of white folks so don’t even play the race game. There needs to be no rallying against this President or his back room cronies because they eat their own lunch. Obviously your ears are even closed to what they say so I’m wonder what your lip service is really all about. Obviously much of nothing.
GE owns it and pays no corporate taxes.
That being said, they were not the sponsors in this event, though some were asked to talk, like Ed. This was not a Fox type sponsored rally and MSNBC is NOT the arm of progressives. In fact, they hjave spent a lot of time going after Obama lately. NOT something you would see with Fox and Bush that is for sure!
Something is wrong here. Looks like Wall Street is considering this to be a game between equals. At-least most of us think our elected representative President is the top-most one. Anyway the fault lies with our representatives. As long as they continue to attend $30,000 a plate dinners instead of welcoming their hatred as FDR did these sort of comments from public bailout benefactors will keep on coming trivializing our democracy.
I’m sorry Jane, but you’re overly negative here. The rally had purpose and was a good thing. Should we have been tapping into the rage right at the start. Absolutely, and many like me (even in labor) have been hammering that point from the start. The general problem was that progressives thought the election really changed something (at first).
Let’s not get caught up in being right about something rather than moving things forward. We can still focus the rage for our political purpose, cause as far as I can see it’s not getting better.
Wah, we didn’t have many people at our rally because um, well, um, we didn’t get a chance to promote it, yeah that’s it. and the EVIIIL right wing has the EVIIIIL Glenn Beck promoting all the right wing rhetoric, wah wah. GET A CLUE YOU LEFTISTS!!!! YOU ARE THE MINORITY!!! AMERICA IS NOT LEFTIST!!! You cry about FOX being biased??? Give me break…Every other news outlet other than FOX is just a propoganda machine for the left. Do you want to know what’s happening? The American public has finally awakened from the stupor it has lingered in for so long. I want to thank Barack Obama for one thing. He made people open their eyes about how destructive liberalism and leftism is!
I was witness to both the Glenn Beck rally and the “One Nation” demonstration. At my blog, JOTMAN.COM, I compare the two rallies and reflect on the events (posted photos too):
One Nation Coming Together rally:
http://jotman.blogspot.com/2010/10/there-live-oct-2-rally-on-mall-in.html
Restoring Honor (Glenn Beck rally):
http://jotman.blogspot.com/2010/08/live-blog-photos-glenn-beck-and.html