Good evening TP.

Guessing those Ds expect to be rich one day and don’t want to pay the higher taxes.

Once again:

Senate:
Joe Lieberman (Conn.), an independent who caucuses with Democrats

the very definition of a bad penny. Dependably on this list, and ever proud of it.

Didn’t I choke my vacuum cleaner on this wretch a dozen or more times in the last 12 years?

Nyet on Bennet!

Teddy!

Time to dumpster dive for spoiled produce to take to their campaign rallies. Let them know exactly how bad their policies stink.

~~~ModNote: OK, that’s about far enough down that road.~~~

Fuck ‘em all.

We have got to stop settling for “Republican Lite”.

Caveat: the primaries — you know, those things created for the very purpose of changing a party, without having to let the opposition win the election — ended a while ago.

Teddy of The Rose City!

What can u say? These people are a big part of the reason the Dims. suck, but u have to ask yourself why the President hasn’t called this group retards?

I would think it’s obvious why he hasn’t called them ‘retards.’

Same reason Jane won’t call us names; when we are activists for the same goal, it’d be dumb for her to call us “dumb.” See?

Is there any actual proof that Obama is for extending all the Bush tax cuts? Or is it just becoming a meme that Obama is against everything FDL readers are for?

Bennet will be a problem for yrs to come for progressives if he gets elected to the Senate…..These folks are taking their position with the consent of the Democratic party leadership….Why is Lieberman allowed to chair a subcommittee ?

Seems to me the best thing would be for the GOP to win the majority in the Senate….you think Liberman will be given such a prominent position in the GOP caucus ?

Now,why would you vote for these Dems ?….you do realize that what you are really doing is voting for Lieberman to continue to hold that subcommittee chairmanship if the Dems retain their Senate majority.

And there is the reason there will be no vote before the elecions. They obviously don’t want to expose how deeply divided they are. I sort of like being negative about this. I have been speculating for months now they would extend the cuts for everyone. Geez, am I brillant or what. Where can I find another party around here?

The DNC has arrived.

Scroll, pups.

Nice broad brush you got there. Shame if anything happened to it.

Please defend the things Obama doesn’t need Congress or 60 votes for. Here’s a short list:

-Stop Loss to short circuit DADT until the rest of the sham plays out
-Defending DOMA, DADT via the DOJ.
-A bully pulpit appeal to fairness in support of Marriage Equality. (Don’t worry about that one. He really doesn’t like or care about that.)
-Secret Death Orders; See Al Awlaki judgment from Friday.

There’s a couple. Please rebut.

Suggest the Type One error (rejecting a true hypothesis) is less of a problem than a Type Two error (accepting a false hypothesis), given that everything Obamabots have hypothesized have turned out to be false. However, decision making under under uncertainty is always uncertain.

I agree with ya….Those tax cuts for the rich will be there.Somehow,they are going to shaft the poor,less fortunate in our society at the expense of the rich.

evening, firegods

More to the point of the post – would any of this electoral problem be a problem at ALL, if the Dems acted like populist Dems, you know, working for common people?

The answer is no. They would win in a tidal wave had they done the right thing.

We have all the proof we need that the Bush tax cuts were bad for America.

We have an issue we can use to rally our base and hurt the Tea Baggers force the GOP to filibuster tax cuts for the middle class right before the election I want to laugh in the face of some Tea Baggers and say no tax cut for you the rich got a bank bailout and now they want more!
You know they are going to cut Social Security next! But can we force the Dems to do this surely some Dem candidates will want to win their races more than tow the party line and run on this Obvious winning issue.

Given the list of dems above, Obama may be trapped into accepting the tax cuts for all, even after the election. His veto could be overridden, no?

36 of them in the house.

current make up of the house is 253 D, 178 R (4 empty seats). If all 36 lose to a republicans we’d have 217 D, 214 R and 4 unknown.

all of them can lose and control of the house could still be in Democratic party hands.

How does one get “trapped” in eleventy dimensional chess?

The Rahm Maneuver.

Sure, but the dems have never really been a united party. There has always been a rebel group here or there. At times they have been able to hold it together, probably best under FDR. I wonder if any of that has something to do with O’s reluctance to unilaterally take the actions you suggest? Might he not want to wreck his unity such as it is?

Only that he may not be able to simply veto anything and make it stick. LBJ may have been best at working his party.

Hey Kelly!
Just back from the land of Vikings, and might not make it to LLN. Hello everyone! Following news in Copenhagen and Oslo was surreal. Wall Street Journal there looks like tabloids, oh, wait, it IS!

Off-topic, but the Jewish Boat for Gaza has set sail from Cyprus. They appear to have an active Twitter feed, but I can’t connect to their Facebook page. Got a reasonably informative but snarky page from an Israeli paper instead. Colonel Ann Wright sent out the press release.

Not to mention that the party inspired by the excellent electoral strategy (give Republicans cover by calling them Democrats) of Rahm Emanuel makes it trickier.

That said, the best present I could have gotten during this administration would have been seeing Obama throw down with Ben Nelson and Joe Lieberman.

Not to be.

But the Ds are now a united party, behind the corp meme, aka Veal Penners. Trouble for them is, the Ds are losers so even their slavishness to corps is a losing strategy. Couldn’t happen to a better bunch.

Ah, naming names. Excellent.

There was a time when I focused on Jim Cooper (DINO, TN-5). The guy just seems to get away with way too much bullshit. Where are the primary challengers to that douchebag? Why does the Democratic Party leadership continue to support such an asshole?

Re the rich doing what’s necessary to maintain a system that keeps them on top, these tax cuts should have been revisited as a condition for authorizing Bush’s wars.

Re DINOs believing GOP bullshit, does it matter that they believe it? Shouldn’t the Democratic Party leadership be working harder to make them support the Democratic Party platform? Shouldn’t the Democratic Party leadership be shaming each and every one of them publicly each and every time they side with nonsense that harms Americans and the country? The fact that these jackals pull this shit and get away with it says a lot about the failures of leadership on the part of Obama, Reid and Pelosi.

I would not try to defend those things you listed except perhaps the last one. If someone is trying to kill me, I would shoot him dead first. But I would not invoke states secrets, just flat out say this mother is trying to kill us and here is the evidence. Surrender or die.

I wonder if any of that has something to do with O’s reluctance to unilaterally take the actions you suggest? Might he not want to wreck his unity such as it is?

Hang on here – unity rests on taking an American life, under completely secret terms, even unknowable by a Court, so much so that the life at hand may not be subject to Due Process, which is demanded by the Constitution, prior to the termination of a life?

No, friend, that’s what leadership and righteousness rests on. Unity follows correct behavior.

Unity seeks not consensus before committing atrocities;only after.

Boxer! People here at FDL keep telling me how “good” Boxer is for the middle class. Since when? Not for the past 5 or 6 years. Now she’s on this list. What? Boxer thinks she has to compete point for point for being more rightward & idiotic than her competitor, the craptastic Carly Fiorina? What is Boxer? Thanking the gawds that she got such a competitor in the Senate race that Boxer could just push push push the Overton window ever rightward? What a corportate hack Boxer has become.

I’ve been reading the CA general electin booklet. Diane Roberts is running as Green, and I’m leaning moe & more towards voting for her. Throughout the election booklet, the Greens consistently talk about “tax the rich!” Frankly, I laud them for being so blunt and out front about it.

There is also the “Peace & Freedom Party,” about which I know little but espouse socialism, workers’ rights, right-sizing the budgets and, yes, “tax the rich.”

Frankly at this stage, I’m looking more and more for candidates like that bc I’m sick unto death of these corporate shills who mewl at me about I need to be ever so concerned about the plight of zillionaires who will be ever so inconvenienced by a very teensy minimal tax increase (that will not be a big deal for the wealthy but will make a difference for the nation).

Sheesh… BOXER!! Babs: I won’t forget this when I’m voting in the general. YOU are not looking out for middle class interests one iota. Liar.

I don’t really perceive it in terms of “real Democrats” vs the current bearers of that name. How far back do you want to go? Until Strom Thurmond led an exodus to the GOP the Democratic Party included a lot of guys who believed the wrong side won the Civil War. Even FDR had to make nice with a bunch of racist Dixiecrats. At best the party history is checkered… ‘though for a long time the checks were mostly shades of white.

Don’t know anything about the Greens except that wingnut donations keep them just alive enuf to challenge Ds. Is that accurate?

Interesting isn’t it that money is overtaking everything. The repugs have the Kochs. Who do the dems have?

I quite agree that states secrets is too extreme a view in this case.

Depends the GOP has that Tea Bagger candidate running against Harry Reid who wants to get rid of Social Security in a recession. I Delaware there Senate candidate is anti sex but also I believe against unemployment benefits with nation wide 10% unemployment.
John McCain was pro immigration for years the Righties like us tend to be untrusting of his sudden conversion on the issue does anyone think he will get the Tea Baggers full support A Tea bagger voting for McCain has the same problems I have voting for a Blue Dog.
AZ Governor lied about immigrants on a debate and is on camera running from the question after the debate emotional choice voters hate weakness plus she was curiously silent during the debate and just stopped talking for awhile.
California I hear the Governor and Senate seats are looking good.
I think if we had a real message like tax cuts for the middle class we could beat every Tea Bagger and even without we can beat most of the Tea Baggers and in races where the GOP candidate won the Primary can they expect Tea Baggers not to feel like we do about Blue Dogs?
Gays and Hispanics will vote in force this election we have too they are taking away our rights.

welcome back. CE

Hey PPDCUS!!!

Shouldn’t the Democratic Party leadership be shaming each and every one of them publicly each and every time they side with nonsense that harms Americans and the country?

The entire Democratic party has been bought off by the corporations and the Oligarchs, and you might as well view them (Ds) as running on the Republican platform anymore. And no, they don’t give a crap about the USA bc the Oligarchs have no allegiance to the USA anymore. They’ve gone global, and they don’t really give a sh*t what happens here.

If China rises up as the superpower (which is what is happening), the rich will continue raking in the bucks offa the backs of Chinese slaves (and it’s my understanding that China still has for-real slavery, and as they say: why how nice). So, no, Ds or Rs, they don’t care about the “country,” they only care about themselves and how much money they can rip off.

evening, eCAHN

Hey, thanks! I should go to bed, but not just yet…

LBJ, whatever else you think of him, with the Democratic party hanging in the balance, drove straight for Civil Rights.

The party knew then that it was putting it’s survival on the line, and (not without a lot of resistance) still did the right thing.

Welcome back. Hope you remembered to tell everyone in Norway that I said, “Hi.” :)

Is there any actual proof that Obama is for extending all the Bush tax cuts? Or is it just becoming a meme that Obama is against everything FDL readers are for?

If Obama’s not for extending all the Bush tax cuts, then he should insist that Congress vote on not extending them. He has to act. Why should anyone going to vote in Nov just take his word for it?

The burden is on him to prove to voters that he believes in something and can do what has to be done.

The burden isn’t on voters to trust leaders who don’t deserve to be trusted.

No one should let Obama fool them twice…

Last time they sent out a boat we live blogged everything from reporters I’m guessing the Israelis will try and jam all communication.

I’m hoping you are right.

There’s an instance or two of that, but it’s not across the board as PW would make you think. And sauce for the goose:

Koch Industries gave $948,000 to federal candidates in the 05/06 election cycle through its political action committee (PAC) – 17% to Democrats, 82% to Republicans.

Could be; certainly true in some races around the country.

CA Greens have run credible candidates in various local & state races over time. When Daryll Issa got Gray Davis tossed out & tried to buy the Gov’s seat (which Ahnold got instead: yay), I voted for Peter Camejo, as Green candidate. Really great person and effectual in some aspects of pushing for reforms. Unfortunately he passed away recently,

So I’ll have to check out what’s happening w/the Greens in CA.

Oh, ratfood, of course I said hi to everyone in Norway.

what time zone are you and Mr. CE swimming in tonight?

I voted for Peter Camejo…

That was a good vote.

Agreed. And yet it was the Democratic Party platform and a lot of promises that put them in power. Those are the bases on which they should be judged as successes or failures.

lol!

Or did you really say “Hola!”

We are in EST, now 11:56 p.m. I’ve been up since 5:00 a.m., Copenhagen time. Like 24 hours up…

Well, LBJ was a Texan but he was not a Dixiecrat. There were still some Dixiecrats left in the party at that time. The Civil Rights Act got passed with the help of Republicans like Everett Dirksen. The emotional climate following the JFK assassination really helped make it possible. Props to LBJ for making the pitch though.

Passing the bill drove the rest of the Dixiecrats to the GOP, so it was beneficial on more than one level. Of course as much as any other factor that probably contributed to Nixon’s Southern Strategy, which strengthened the GOP’s electoral chances for at least a few decades. Granted it will cost them in the end if they don’t change their tactics.

and “Tak”

Senator Kerry has explained that the Democratic Party’s troubles are clearly the fault of all those dumb voters who are easily fooled by slogans. Yeah, like “Change We Can Believe In.”

I would guess that, too. Won’t want the word getting out, yet again, about what really is going on. Good luck to them: brave.

Good evening & good night. Late for me & projects have tuckered me out. Nice to pass like ships in the night, though.

Is it still Lurtak or is it now Montak fer ya lassie?

Yes. Really sad that Camejo passed away; think he was reasonably young, too. Camejo acquitted himself well in that election and worked hard in other ways. It’s a big loss, imo. Not as familiar with other Greens out here but will investigate.

Also the Tea Baggers are the same guys who voted for Jon McCain they do hate Obama because he’s Black, they think he’s a secret Muslim whatever. The GOP is not talking about jobs and people losing their homes we could win if we talked about this.
The GOP however well does any Moderate voter trust them more than us to fix the economy, to not cut unemployment or social security?
The GOP own screwing the poor now that everyone is hurting for money they might be to depressed to vote but will Moderates and the Left who did not vote for McCain the first time vote GOP now after a year of economic hurt?

So you’re like salmon swimming upstream in Copenhagen time zone, eh?

who the heck knows, …i have to work in nine hours, and I really, really missed everyone here at FDL. I tried to see FDL from Denmark and Norway, but it was not easy.

G’nite eCAHN, scritches to CAHNstance.

Prob 13 Moonbeam and Holy Joe Babs? – hah!

This libertarian socialist is going nukular on the Dems. I’m ready to start from scratch, sooner than not. Vote Fiorina and Whittman, because given the state of affairs, the sooner California goes tits up, esp. on Repubs watch, the sooner we can start building something sustainable.

night, eCAHN – take care

You know in a weird way it makes sense for the Kochs to give a few bucks to dems, especially the blue dogs or those who have no chance anyway. that way they can say they support both parties.

These people aren’t real Democrats, in my way of thinking.

dear Teddy and other Firepups: they ARE real Democrats, that is what the party has been for what, 70 years since the days of FDR? That is the same span of time from the beginning of the New Deal to the end of the Civil War!

That idealized Donkey of yore is long dead, Clinton, Obama, Rubin, Geithner, Rahm Emmanuel etc are the Democratic Part, and if tribalistic partisanship prevents some from seeing that after so many decades then we are in the realm of Faith, not politics, and you are free to worship as you choose.

Sorry that my point was obscured:
The Democratic party is (or was) capable of bold, selfless action.

And yet it was the Democratic Party platform and a lot of promises that put them in power. Those are the bases on which they should be judged as successes or failures.

Certainly Ds should be “judged” on the liars and rip offs that they’ve become. It’s despicable. Tell your family, friends & neighbors who usually vote D: they need to wake up, if they haven’t already.

The SCOTUS decision in Jan 2010, “Citizens United,” represented a paradigm shift, and voters can no longer rely on typical party affiliations to represent us. Most pols are working soley and only for the corporations and the Oligarchs. It’s pretty much like after the Soviet Union collapsed.

I’m on FDL the word won’t get out until after the election even if I did a diary and it got front paged the Media can’t even think those thoughts.
Immigrant Rights marches are still bigger than anything the tea baggers can throw together but the Media does not call us a force in politics or covers our rallies half as much as they cover the Tea Baggers.
The Media is trying to create a perception the Tea Baggers are a big grass roots movement but perception isn’t reality.

The Kochs, like most wealthy, give to all relevant parties, perhaps even doing so by subterfuge. I’m sure the Kochs are busy funnelling funding to the Blue Dogs and have done so for years (no proof but why not).

Just came back from Ralphs (supermarket), – the paradigm shift were 8 self checkout stations and 2 people working registers. Yeah right, – the wonderful new service economy…

Individuals in the party were capable of bold selfless action. The party was pretty divided over the Civil Rights Act. It would not have been passed without Republican help. Imagine that.

Stronger than all the armies is an idea thats time has come. … The time has come for equality of opportunity in sharing in government, in education, and in employment. It will not be stayed or denied. It is here!

-Everett McKinley Dirksen (4 January 1896 – 7 September 1969) was an Illinois Republican Senator and civil rights proponent. Paraphrasing Victor Hugo when speaking about the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (June 10, 1964)

It’s pretty much like after the Soviet Union collapsed.

No, it’s not. We have an entirely different history and different system and different times.

It’s a mistake to make inapt historical comparisons – clouds the opportunities available to us, which were no where near available to a citizen of the USSR.

Yes, correct.

There have been anti-war rallies of some size this year that no one’s heard about, yet if a Teabagger farts in the morning, it’s in every news bulletin for the rest of the day.

It’s done deliberately. Only the Teabaggers continue to live in the fantasy world of being true “grass roots.” Everyone else knows that their bankrolled by the Kochs and get their talking points and PR from Rupert Murdoch.

The corporate-owned rightwing media only promulgates what it wants citizens to see/know. It’s called propoganda, and again, they are emulating the Soviet Union playbook by controlling information, dealing in outright lies, suppressing information, and engaging in propoganda and revising history.

Hi Chris, glad you’re home!

As to the turncoat Democratic congressman in my district, I’m going to vote for someone else.

Margot! I’m headed up to bed…

Fair enough, Kelly. You have a good point. I’m really tired and not expressing myself well. What I meant was: the rise of the Oligrachs here in the USA (esp recently) with their controlling the corporations, the military, the resources, etc, has some parallel with what happened after the Soviet Union ended. Some citizens stepped in (usually bc of KGB connections) and grabbed the resources & the industries, and made out like bandits, while the rest of the citizens went hungry.

Not the best analogy, but there are some parallels there. I get what you’re saying, though. The situations are different, as well.

We can win this even now we just need elected Dems to fight we them to focus on jobs and people losing their homes.
We need Obama to stand for Gay rights for Immigrant rights people respect leaders brave enough to take a chance. Obama needs to show he’s strong.
We need the Senate Dems to get a spine and force the GOP to filibuster tax cuts for the middle class for a week.

So, Barbara Boxer campaigns as tho pot calling the kettle black. And she’s getting away with it. Really, Fiorina must be loathsome to be falling behind the way she is. I remember being excited when a woman was named to head HP, but after she fudged around for three years because she didn’t have a clue, it was obvious she was in way over her head. The stories about her demeanor were just finishing touches to a story of ignorance and hubris.

Exactly. There’s loads of jobs out there, folks, bc the recession has ended. If you’re not working, it’s bc you’re a lazy welfare slacker. /s

All hail our beneficent Morlock Overlords, who just need scatey-eight more years of Bush tax cuts and just maybe they’ll create some jobs here in the USA… don’t hold your breath.

night, CE

G’nite CE. Looking forward to hearing more about your trip when you’ve had time to get caught up.

Think I’ll power down too. Big day tomorrow, got a consult scheduled to find out if I need surgery on one of my little cloven hooves. Yippee!

Wishing a pleasant evening to all.

Propaganda is an ancient word. People must realize what its roots mean: “For the paying of it.”

It’s modern cousin is “Marketing.” Which is fine. As long as one discloses.

So when a company says “Buy my soap! It’s great!” and you can see that it paid for it, no harm no foul as you don’t expect anything different.

But the instant there’s no disclosed source and some claim of benefit for you – BEWARE!

As many here know, I and a few others have been advocating voting against IncumbaDems this fall, since every one of them capitulated on HCR, steping over their public option “line in the sand.”

Instead of these vampires who suck the life out of The Left (among other things), please consider sending a clear message that they have no place in the Party, AND that we are taking the party back from the EstabliDems who have sold us out since the Clinton years. You can do that with one of the following three acts in the voting booth:

1) Vote for an indisputably left-leaning third party, such as Green, Working Families, or Socalist.

2) write in the words “Public Option” or Medicare for All.”

3) if you vote Dem, make sure it is for one who has UNSEATED the incumbent in the primary. Otherwise, no dice.

Tallying up the results if this is done across the nation will send the clear message that DINOs will not be tolerated.

Thanks for your support.

I, too, thought it was great to have a female CEO of HP, until Fiornia got in, was a totally entitled “queen” demanding a private lear jet, along with loads of other perks that Bill Hewlett & Dave Packard never indulged in.

Off-shored over 3000 jobs (giant laugh that Fiorina in her campaign *brags* about knowing how to “create jobs.” Yeah: create jobs for Chinese citizens). Holds up communist China as a template for what we US serfs should imitate.

Fiorina ran HP into the ground & then got giant gobs of MY money (as a shareholder) to get FIRED. HP stocks dropped like a stone and only recent climbed out of the hole. Why anyone would want to vote for her is beyond me. She’s incompetent and clueless and just wants to buy herself a fancy gov’t job with more entitlements for life. Can’t stand her.

That said, this list is why I’ve gone sour on Boxer. Yuck.

Most pols are working soley and only for the corporations and the Oligarchs. It’s pretty much like after the Soviet Union collapsed.

I don’t think it’s gone that far yet, though that is the general direction…

Bennet (Obama’s handpicked person to fill in for Ken Salazar) is down by 5 to Buck, and unlike Democrats, Republicans hold their Senate seats in Colorado for 30 or 40 years.

That might explain why Bush’s base stuck with him for nearly six years, but it took less than six months for many among Obama’s base to realize that they’d been had. Kerry can spout nonsensical blame at the base for the problems of the Democratic Party all he likes. It’s not going to help Democrats stay in power.

CTuttle is upstairs!
Late, Late Night FDL: Diggin’ Up Bones

Guessing those Ds expect to be rich one day and don’t want to pay the higher taxes.

Only if the nation survives by not becoming a third world country due to some miracle (Santa Claus believers I guess) by then since if we still want to maintain first world living conditions somebody has to pay to maintain and improve shared resources to generate next cycle of products and we all know 99% does not have much left to the common pool at the end of the year.

The concept of brands goes a long way to explaining how office holders are able to stay in office long after their voting records should have put them out. We’ve got another one here in south Jersey, Robert Andrews. Won his last election with the highest vote count for a rep in NJ history. Not so popular in middle and north Jersey, tho, because he couldn’t dislodge Lautenberg in the senate primary nor McGreevey, for god’s sake, in the governor primary. I have reluctantly come to support office holding limits because of people like Andrews. My choice is number of years and age, tied to a schedule of offices at all levels, so that someone can’t game the system by moving from municipal to county to state to federal. And, of course, draconian proscriptions on circling back to do business as part of a private sector firm.

Fiorina ran HP into the ground & then got giant gobs of MY money (as a shareholder) to get FIRED.

Looks like all that Mrs. Fiorina did during her tenure at HP was she changed the much stated and admired HP Way to Wall Street Way which is nothing but as we saw recently grounding stuff and getting Public money.

We have a winner.

Don’t forget, there’s some that might flip the other way too!

Sorry, folks, out of town guests kept me away from the computer tonight. It’s fun to catch up with old friends, but I missed you all too. Sounds like you’ve had the conversation I would have had I been around, though….

Cities were burning in the sixties.

Just sayin’

Welcome home, CE

Well documented that people identify up. To the point of delusion, I’d say.

P-R, dahling, P-R

The suggestion was made that the Democrats:

At best the party history is checkered… ‘though for a long time the checks were mostly shades of white.

I replied that the Democrats were capable of acting from a good place, and cities burning or not, some of them acted on behalf of the people.

That is not even remotely true now.

patty murray had a t.v. ad this week touting tax cuts and tax credits – credits were mentioned 6 times & cuts 2 times (or, vice versa)

I honestly think she’s toooooo f’king stupid to be that corrupt, although I HOPE I’m wrong … I guess?

I’m writing in “medicare for all” – to hell with her, let her win with the fake ass ‘middle’ and the right wing defined ‘center’ she’s so obsessed with. She obviously doesn’t need my vote.

rmm.

rmm.

Off-shored over 3000 jobs (giant laugh that Fiorina in her campaign *brags* about knowing how to “create jobs.” Yeah: create jobs for Chinese citizens).

BTW in a unrelated side-note, I saw articles in the MSM stating that iphones are selling like hot cakes in China. I was surprised since all the articles I know of they are very protectionist and only allow a token of products to be sold no matter how popular they are with their people since they want to hoard foreign exchange to give debt to us. I went through the article and I saw it was only 200,000 iphones. It is a drop in the bucket in a population of more than a billion amounting to less than 0.2%. This is not hot cakes selling but MSM articles to mollify our congress which is contemplating taking action for currency manipulation thanks to FDL I know sometime soon.

I think people misunderestimate just how hard it was for LBJ to do civil rights, because our cities were burning. The ungrateful and rioting Negro wasn’t the person white America wanted to give more rights to then; whites just wanted to fly.

FT:

Europe’s central banks halt gold sales.

And yet, what I wouldn’t give to have been 35 or 40 old and a Democrat when the Civil Rights act passed.

FT:

Norway’s central bank sues Citigroup.

“The suit names Vikram Pandit, the group’s current chief executive, and Chuck Prince, his predecessor, among the defendants.

“Due to the defendants’ repeated material untrue statements and non-disclosure of material information to investors, plaintiff purchased Citi securities at inflated prices [between January 2007 and January 2009],” the lawsuit said.”

Vikram soon to join the two Princes, Eric and Chuck, in Dubai.
Soon therafter to be followed by all of our Poison Ivy elites, – I hope.

I think people misunderestimate just how hard it was for LBJ to do civil rights

Exactly true. A century ago a President did something similar and we had a civil war with brother fighting brother. What LBJ did was literally unimaginable and on that considering the dire-straits of our health care right now if he was present we would have had single payer or Medicare buy-in in couple of weeks. He knew how to fight and he fought for the right side i.e. common people and upholding our constitution.

He as Senate Majority Leader one of the main reasons Ike was able to get top 91% tax rates which was the right thing to do and we had the biggest Economic Expansion our country ever experienced with all of our troops getting college educated, able to pay off home loans within 2 to 3 years, having jobs, able to raise families, highway system being built on public dollars, high standard of public education etc. Compare and Contrast with current situation with returning troops coming back from a relatively minor battle to that of WWII. We cannot even afford to properly retrain these few number of troops. Issue is regressive taxation we have right now.

If we go to Ikes rates all of FDL bloggers & readers will pay less taxes, more demand to spur economy and rich will still be rich than all of FDL bloggers and readers.

The lame duckers will be easier to bribe come November and December.

?Shouldn’t the Democratic Party leadership be working harder to make them support the Democratic Party platform?”

Their behavior suggests that they have forgotten what was in the platform and can’t even remember where to look it up.

“Barbara Boxer (Calif.) — supports extending tax cuts “at least 98 percent [of] Americans,” would review proposals for families above that threshold”

This Boxer Bit*h email me last year while we were avoiding walking from our house in CA. She wanna me to donate 10K when the VP was in SFO. Now, don’t blame us for the Subprime debacles. We played by the rules, we don’t have a single credit or other debts except the mortgage. We would have hang on except my wife major cancer surgery. They helped Goldman Sachs, Banks and other Wall Streets crooks. Mind you Goldman Sachs walk off with a $500 million fined. Millions Americans’ homeowner saddle with debts and joblessness. I know how screwed up the Republicans are, but that Teleprompter promised us “CHANGE” CHANGE you can believe in!! where are the change? Screw the Democrat and make them pay for lying and screwing us! Vote for ALL REPUBLICANS

Don’t forget US Senate candidate Jack Conway in KY!

We chide the Republicans for not doing the logical things to help the economy and these Democrats chime right in with them. Now the Republicans are using these Democrats to back their same illogical stances. Too much! Grow some cojones!

Being pissed is understandable, being stupid isn’t. You really want to go back? Change doesn’t happen overnight, but it could end that way with your proposal.