Good morning, firepuppers! And how are you all this lovely Saturday morning?
Earlier this week, I wrote a Seminal piece on how Minnesota Republicans Tim Pawlenty and Tom Emmer — our soon-to-be gone absentee governor and the man who would like to follow his political footsteps — are courting the Neo-Confederate wing of the GOP. When discussing Emmer, the piece cited this blog post by MN Observer from The Cucking Stool, whose writers have been doing singularly good work in documenting how Tom Emmer’s been sending out all sorts of coded signals to the folks who wished that the South had won and slavery was still legal. These posts have struck a nerve — and comedy gold — by engendering a hilariously disjointed set of desperately handwaving Tweets from local Republican functionary David “Thurmond” Strom, who apparently really, really, really wants The Cucking Stool to stop pointing out this new wrinkle in the GOP’s Southern Strategy.
Heh. Fat chance of that, buddy.
Not only did it not stop the series of blog posts documenting the Tentherism and secessionism exhibited by He Who Hates Waiters, but Spotty, the head writer of The Cucking Stool, used the occasion to announce an imminent video he’s putting together on Tom Emmer and the subject of nullification. He also went on to show how Emmer showed Ben-Domenech-like industriousness in copying the secession resolutions of South Carolina and Mississippi (not to mention other Confederate-era documents) in his rather bizarre nullification speeches.
Here’s Tom Emmer attempting to make an argument that he — as a prominent “Minnesota Super Lawyer” — should know full well was utterly demolished nearly two hundred years ago by the United States Supreme Court in McCulloch v. Maryland:
Citizens of Minnesota are sovereign individuals, subject to Minnesota law and immune from any federal laws that exceed the federal government’s enumerated constitutional powers. A federal law does not apply in Minnesota unless that law is approved by a two-thirds vote of the members of each house of the legislature and is signed by the governor. [ ]
Here’s the secession resolution for the state of Mississippi:
Whereas, the constitutional Union was formed by the several states in their separate soverign [sic] capacity for the purpose of mutual advantage and protection;
That the several states are distinct sovereignities [sic again; oh well, at least Emmer corrected the spelling], whose supremacy is limited so far only as the same has been delegated by voluntary compact to a federal government, and, when it fails to accomplish the ends for which it was established, the parties to the compact have the right to resume, each state for itself, such delegated powers;
That the institution of slavery existed prior to the formation of the federal Constitution, and is recognized by its letter, and all efforts to impair its value or lessen its duration by Congress, or any of the free states, is a violation of the compact of Union and is destructive of the ends for which it was ordained, but in defiance of the principles of the Union thus established, the people of the Northern states have assumed a revolutionary position toward the Southern states;
That they have set at defiance that portion of the Constitution which was intended to secure domestic tranquility among the states and promote their general welfare, namely: “No person held to service or labor in one state, under the laws thereof, escaping into another shall, in consequence of any law or regulation therein, be discharged from such service or labor, but shall be delivered up, on claim of the party to whom the service or labor may be due;”
Tweet that, Strommie.
Of course, most Minnesotans not in white-flight exurbs or gated communities really aren’t too keen on this sort of thing. For those who would rather have someone who isn’t a race-baiter and a frequent liar as their next governor, there is a very good alternative, and his name’s Mark Dayton.



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Hey PW, always amazed at how you and the other historians/writers/academics around the Lake seem to be able to pull this stuff effortlessly together.
What are the polls showing?
Is Minnesota buying this issue just how is leaving the Union suppose to get your state jobs and people back into their homes?
Don’t people in your state worried about jobs and homes want politicians to talk about the issues? Just what polls are the GOP reading if they think leaving the Union is a vote getter?
I lived through the revisiting of state’s rights, during the fifties-seventies, raised by the southern states in defense of Jim Crow and in particular disenfranchisement of African American voters. I have to admit I don’t have a clear understanding of the motivation for the northern and traditionally racially tolerant states. PW can you enlighten me as to why this is so attractive in Minnesota?
Thanks, PW. Excellent job, as always, highlighting the nasty underbelly of these facist skinheads (really that’s what they are, aren’t they)? Your post takes my breath away, though. Like: they really want to re-institute slavery? Really? Amazing. Of course, the nation did get prosperous in the way-back machine by slavery, much as the British & other European empires got prosperous via slavery (mainly in their colonies) and by selling drugs.
So there’s not that much new under the sun, but good to air this junk in the light of day and expose the creepy-crawlies for all to see.
The Rethugs are circling their wagons, drawing together on hate memes all around the country.
Why, I saw NJ Gov Chris Christie, whom the go-along git-along media just love, providing some Jersey muscle for Meg Whitman out in Californie…
hmmm, what’s it say about little Meggie if she can’t even handle a heckler on her own?
The Force of John Birch is still strong in pockets of the North Country. May I say it is downright scary to drive up thru Bachmann’s district to the tall timber.
Go Mark Dayton, go Terryl Clark.
Why can’t the GOP find sane candidates? Why can’t they find people with ideas the Last GOPer with new ideas was Reagan but he was just a hand puppet for the people who actually thought of the ideas much like Bush was.
Sorry to jump your question here TS, but my guess is jobs, uncertain economic outlook, and general xenophobia with the changing demographics during the last few decades.
As Dorothy might say, “Oh my, this isn’t
KansasLake Woobegon.”At least Birch had a world view. These Tea Party folks seem so extremely insular. Remind me more of our Appalachia than the denizens of our black belt who long for slavery.
Does the GOP think that Nordic People will naturally band together when confronted with an African American President yes this theory is weird.
But from an Authoritarian view the in group confronted with an outsider leading them and ( in their minds at least) pushing them out would cause them to want to separate from the group.
Karl remember wanted this state despite it leaning Dem he moved the GOP convention there. I presume Karl wants your Gov to run for President to help pull the state more toward its in Karl’s mind at least Natural Home the GOP.
I think leaving the Union talk is Karl’s calling card. Gov Perry in Texas a place where we know Karl has juice talks about it too.
Thanks. Welcome to anyone who has knowledge or ideas. I am so struck with how these folks have really no concept of society (or for that matter a machine) as whole a system of interaction of essential elements.
You may have something there in seeing them as overwhelmed by changes and increasing complexity. They can personify a federal government but not the system that is sucking them dry..
I tell my Tenther acquaintances that we have already tried their preferred form of government. It was from 1781 to 1789 under the Articles of Confederation. Of course, the Parson Weem’s school of history doesn’t cover that glorious era of American history much.
After Shay’s Rebellion [1786/1787] most folks, even the ass hats in South Carolina, realized a strong central government was needed and they met in Philly in the summer of 1787 to create one.
I don’t see how this issue can poll well? I don’t see how the GOP can even try to manufacture an issue when we have so many real issues we have to deal with now.
That might be partly due to the “truth has a liberal bias” thing.
When one is being deprived of “enough” they assume someone else is getting extra
I think a huge aspect driving the anti-government obsession is the notion that the government is distributing tax money to undeserving others. That is of course true — to the upper 1% of wealthy, but while they can imagine dark skinned people they see on the streets as undeserving they have no meme for the super rich.
When will the tenthers get to paydirt and start attaching labor as the natural right of the debt holders – so we can get outright contracts for poor houses, wherein ‘Arbeit Macht Frei”.
The GOP is saving that for the election I’m sure:)
To me it seems that virtually all Republicans try to govern as if we’re living under the Confederate Constitution.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confederate_Constitution
Isn’t there some RWN who is proposing just that? I think in Texas, where else?
Minnesota and the Klan
I am still trying to get my arms around the fact that the GOP leaders actually believe this way works. Then I think of Newt Gingrich who is certifiable.
I thought this was a good article on incomes, taxes, and the Bush tax cuts. It’s full of stats.
http://www.tax.com/taxcom/taxblog.nsf/Permalink/CHAS-89LPZ9?OpenDocument
1-3 July 1863 was a watershed moment for the South. Hopefully 2 Nov will be the same sort of watershed moment for Emmer and his supporters.
This looks terrific. I am bookmarking it. I saw a bit of this on MSNBC last evening. The Democrats should have been on this for the past year. But I guess they think it’s too complex for the simple folk.
You hit the nail on the head. As aggravating as *some* of the conservatives who blog here can be, they provide an insight into the conservative mind-set (which confirms what I hear/know from conservative family & friends). Most do not believe that there is “enough” to “go around,” so “I have to cling on to what I have at all costs.” If “I” don’t grasp after what’s “mine,” someone else will get it.
Minorities, in particular, have been demonized and villified forever as the dreaded “other,” who is “taking away” from “you.” It’s been a neat trick of the Oligarchs, and it seems that they’ve been doing it forever, or at least since the late 19th C (historians here can comment).
Despite our revolutionary roots, the authoritarian right has been carefully taught to venerate their “betters,” which mainly means those with money. Most who are super wealthy in this country are white, so… it’s easy for the white Oligarchs to spread their lies, propoganda and misinformation in deliberate Orwellian fashion.
The middle class these days is on very shakey ground, as are the working class. They see a lot of their money gone; they’re mostly not critical thinkers willing to do their own research, much less “entertain” ideas that are not part of their tribal herd mentality.
So, easy to blame the dark-skinned “others” for all their ills and woes. Conservative bloggers come here all the time to state baldly that they’re absolutely FINE with the US gov’t spending trillion$$$ annually on the military and senseless wars. Got not whit of a problem with that. But ohmigawd not one thin dime should go to a minority citizen; no sirree.
When we blog here about the Oligarchs, their tricks, and how they’ve ripped us all off, these same conservative bloggers (and I have very similar conversations with conservative family and friends) mock and laugh and bascially say we’re “nuts.”
Frankly, they don’t want to “get it.” Most conservatives appear (to me) to see the Oligarchs as “big daddy” – or like the Morlocks in the movie “The Time Machine” – who have be appeased and bowed and scraped to, in the hopes that “big daddy” will keep the economy running, create jobs, etc. And “big daddy” needs lots and lots of tax cuts, no regulations, and many wars to be inveighed and prevailed upon to “smile” upon us “small people.”
It’s been a neat trick bc my take is that most conservatives feel very personally helpless and have no notion that it’s WE the people who should be “in charge” and “running” the show…. and we shouldn’t be kowtowing to a bunch of rich f*cks who are ripping us off.
I’ll stop now, but that seems to me to be the crux of the issue. Easier to blame the dark folks than to really take responsibility to stand up to the PTB.
Yes I guess that was a part of the GOP’s resurrection of the KKK in the Midwest and as well leading the embracing of eugenics. So the roots are still there. (sigh) Meanness and ignorance ever seems to go away.
As has been said before, just the puppeteers pulling the strings on both sides of the two-party parody. “Focus on the show, don’t watch me.”
Got some tasks, thanks everyone. Treat yourselves to something nice today.
All of what you describe so well resonates with my experience of how these folks think and have been led to think, as you say for centuries. On my bad days I wonder if democracy will prove to be just a passing ripple. How have we lost the concepts of democracy that I (in a Republican family) learned? More important, how do we get it back?
SD. A little Caturday note. It is beautiful and sunny here (for now). Angela up on night stand looking out the window; she knows it is a beautiful day out there. She’s so still she looks like a little lion statue. No worries in that pretty head.
Heh Same here. Bapu, Nagi and Igraine jockeying for control of the dining room window sill.
I think the US Empire is coming to an end of some sort, and the USA will turn into a 3rd world country with some semblence of “democracy” still in place. Look to the UK and the end of Raj. My only hope is that the facists aren’t able to really take over bc that would be very bad, indeed.
Conservatives seem ever ready and willing to “take it” from the Oligrachs with nary a wimper. They will just turn arond and take out their aggro on the minorities, women, gays & less fortunate “others.” So the rise of facism is one of my concerns.
Hysterical…thanks. They would be great friends for lovely Angela….
It’s barely on the MSM radar screens here, although since I pay so little attention to the MSM I may not be the best judge of that. Thanks, PW.
Good morning, everyone! I have a bit of a cold, so I didn’t wake up until now. I’ll try not to share my germs.
Nullification and or secession will be major issues going forward. Not because pandering to neo-confederate sentiment will be a big vote getter. But because the federal government wants to enslave us all on behalf of the Oligarchy. If the people of California vote to legalize marijuana they will have trouble accepting that Imperial Washington will not respect their decision. If any city, state or region were to decide to restore the rule of law their only way forward would be nullification or secession. Likewise if any state or region were to decide it did not want to be taxed to pay for endless war and subsidies to the banking cartel, the only way forward would be secession. American serfs may find that suing for partial local autonomy is more doable than launching a nation wide rebellion.
This is my little way of forcing the issue. Our local media can be so pathetic, and so determined to carry water for Republicans, that it often takes being embarrassed by a blogger (especially one with a national audience) to get them to cover something. But of course, when they do pick up on a blogger’s coverage of a local story they’ve been ignoring, they tend to, ah, “forget” to credit the blogger in question.
My Claudette is eying the cream in my cereal and following every bite.
That’s not what Tom Emmer’s talking about — or why he’s talking right now. He’s a social conservative, a Catholic Jim DeMint (he has seven kids and opposes birth control, among other things).
There were also the lynchings in Duluth in 1920.
Give her an ear skritch for me!
My dog is waiting patiently for a bite of my spinache quiche. Not going to happen for him this morning.
You have a lot to say here. Keep saying it.
Steven Colbert is also a Catholic. I’m not, but I’m just pointing out that when we start categorzing, we get into the doo doo. Not defending the Catholic Church and their horrors. Did you see the picture of the pope crying?
I think you are right. The small d democrats are supine and leaderless from so many assaults. Any unrest is and will be met with oppression and so to fascism. The oligarchs will lose interest in investing in the country and its infrastructure and move on to more affluent markets.
But I still hold great respect for the power and creativity of the people in gathering together. Would that the the triangulation cease to be as effective and the people realize they can take charge.
Done. You have a Claudette smile back at you.
Yup. Though in that case, Minnesota’s sole set of lynchings took place under cover of night, and the cops really did try to keep the mob from breaking into the jail and getting at the six circus workers. In places like Dallas, lynchings (like that of Allen Brooks) were often held in broad daylight in the public square, and were social occasions.
Thank you Demi. We all have to keep trucking. ((( ))))
I just recently started reading Drew Westen’s The Political Brain: The Role of Emotion in Deciding the Fate of the Nation, and he very effectively addresses why it is effective and more importantly why the Democrats have been so ineffective at messaging over the past 30+ years. It also addresses the issue PW raises in her reply (Comment #38) re why our side gets so little MSM attention. Lefties blame rightist bias, which is definitely true, especially in the management levels. However Westen argues that a big part of it is the lack of emotionally compelling narratives from the left. Anyone and everyone interested in advancing left-leaning governance should read this book.
“Strange Fruit” Billie Holliday?
Actually, I mentioned that to show where he differs from Jim DeMint, who is also a social conservative (and also a fan of the Tea Party wing of the GOP) but who is Presbyterian.
Yup. Lynching postcards were apparently quite the thing, and passed along much in the same way that our irritating right-wing rellies will pass around racist joke e-mails.
I have read Westen and he is spot on. Super book practical and easy to understand He has also had some terrific blogs on HP. Lakhoff is great too. The insight and answers are there. It is just that no one politically prominent seems to be paying attention. Also I have high regard for FDL’s Glenn Smith who does a Sunday diary. He worked with Lakhoff for a while.
Also, we should never forget that our Minnesota was the scene of the largest mass execution in US history. I remember driving by the monument marking the site many a time in my youth as our family took Old US 169 on Front Street right through downtown Mankato. It was many years before I fully comprehended the horror of it. I guess we should be thankful that there is a monument, although perhaps we should look in to the motives behind its installatiion.
Meow!
A-yep. And the only reason that it wasn’t much bigger is because President Lincoln tried to save as many of the Dakota fighters as possible — the white settler people of New Ulm and other areas, who had lost between 400 and 800 persons to the Dakota raids, had wanted far more killed, at least 300.
Shades of modern history, isn’t it? Lincoln is condemned as a Hitler and Columbus by the Lakota activists who created the webpage you cited, yet the white settlers hated him equally for refusing to execute 90% of the Lakota they wanted killed. Rather like how Obama is hated equally by left and right over his decisions on Iraq and Afghanistan.
And then there’s this from Lamar Smith (R. ‘Secessionist’ Texas) the ranking member of the House Judiciary Committee in an interview on Faux News, “Smith blamed the administration’s decision to not enforce federal laws against marijuana dispensaries in states that have legalized the drug for medicinal purposes. Smith blamed the administration’s approach on drug laws for recent statistics showing an increased use of marijuana.”
So the hypocrisy parade from the GOP continues.
Yupper! In fact, that’s the subject of Michael Whitney’s post for this morning.
Exactly! It’s why the Southern Strategy — wherein tax cuts for the rich are sold to bigots as a way to hurt nonwhites while hiding under the bogus cloak of “fiscal responsibility” — is so successful. If these people really cared about the deficit, they’d be the first in line to call for massive Pentagon cuts. But — especially since the Pentagon makes sure that it puts military bases in places where these bases are likely to be the biggest employers in the area — they don’t.
I haven’t read this book yet…but It seems to me that the stories have been there but the Capital D power structure has been incapable of telling them through compromised forked tongues.
Without courage and support from the power structure stories lay dormant and sad stories like the Duluth lynching do not become the valuable lessons should be. Seriously, the sick avoidance of family responsibility at the time of the accusation and murders lived on for decades and weakened rather than strengthened the descendants. The sick avoidance of the entire nation, for example, thinking terrorism is a new phenomenon in the U.S. What has the African American experience been if it wasn’t learning to live with terrorism? The Native American culture survives despite the near complete ostracism from American society. (You can’t count phonetic spelling of words used for geographic names as absorbing a different culture.) Asian Americans were placed in Concentration camps. Not only don’t we tell the stories but we don’t let the stories weave together. DADT is argued as if Mathew Sheppard was off topic; The Shirtwaist fire disaster isn’t tied to criminal actions of Blankenship now; etc.
Brother Dave Gardner
Just in case cbl2 or oldnslow show up.
Welcome to my world, Phoenix Woman.
Folks better nip this in the bud before you get President Pawlenty and Governor Bachmann. The real wild cards in this are the Ventura independents. Based on my experiences in South Carolina and Georgia, it takes around a decade for Democrats and anyone to the left of them to be frozen out of the political process. This condition is reversible eventually as South Carolina might (or might not) show this election.
typos above: the valuable lessons they should be
But also: PW, keep us posted about the FBI raids in Minnesota- Shouldn’t this story unravel to expose so many more.
Whose the USA attorney there? Bush appointee still allowed to stay in office because of Executive temerity and the inability to juggle enough balls all at once.
You must have inadvertently left out the secession and return of slavery thing in Emmer’s statement. But since he did openly advocate such things wouldn’t it be proper to do to him what Lincoln ordered during the War of Northern Aggression and put 600,000 plus men and boys beneath the sod? There’s some ideas that are just too dangerous, they require the elimination of the life form that holds them. Just ask the shades of Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Ho Chi Minh and Pol Pot.
Oh, exactly!
“The War of Northern Aggression”? Funny, whose guns were the ones that fired on Fort Sumter?
But thanks for revealing yourself to be a Neo-Confederate, Nailheadtom. Confederate apologist Mildred L. Rutherford‘s ghost is proud of you!
Dayton’s ahead, though whether by ten or three points is in question. See, our local media has for the most part been soft-pedaling (if not outright ignoring) many Emmer scandals. (For instance, they’ve let him get away with claiming that Emmer campaign chair Mark Buesgens had actually already been fired from the Emmer campaign before Buesgens’ arrest for an open-vodka-bottle DUI, when in fact, as local bloggers like Two-Putt Tommy have shown, he was still part of the campaign at the time he was busted:
By the way, Buesgens is only the second of Tom Emmer’s campaign managers to get nailed for DUIs this year. David Fitzsimmons got busted shortly after Buesgens replaced him in that spot:
Confederate Memorial provided by the UDC in honor of the Confederate soldiers and ”
the principles they fought for.” Statue Link
“War of Northern Aggression” is the term most used in the Deep South.
Mid-South is more likely to use “War Between the States” (my grandmother used to correct us all the time when we used “Civil War” – which she had a point as there is no such thing as a “civil” war)
PW, I don’t know if I’ve ever taken the time to tell you, but you are a WONDERFUL writer. Just my opinion, as a former English teacher, current grammar Nazi, and parent of a sports writer.
Really, your articles are so “readable” and so informative.
Thank you so much!!
Yeah, I get it. I just went off on a tangent. He’s a Minnesota Confederate. Remember the Illinois Nazis in Blues Brothers? Equally ridiculous.
I know. I didn’t mean to sound mean — sorry! And I hate Illinois Nazis, too.
Oh, indeed. Because of the work of people like Miss Rutherford, who encouraged people to inscribe the words “Unjust to the South” on any school or library text that said things such as the South fought to keep its slaves (even though this is explicitly stated as a reason for secession in the Confederate Constitution!), the way the Civil War was taught below the fortieth parallel was extremely skewed.
Also, “nailheadtom” is very likely a Minnesota Republican, so unless he grew up in the South, he didn’t come by this phrase via Southern upbringing, but because the Minnesota Republicans have embraced the Confederacy.
Oh, thank you ever so much! I wish I was as good as you see me; I strive to be, but I split infinitives and cheerfully throw my metaphors into the Blend-Tec set on “purée”.
Also among the more hard core it’s known as the “Second War of Independence.”
Now that’s a new one for me.
Bingo! This data point was driven home this past week when the House and Senate caved on the tax cut extension bill in the face of the letter signed by 40+ Dem house blue dogs. It’s impossible to craft a compelling narrative on top of such fissures.
Your other points are also well taken.
A governor of Minnesota has not been elected by a majority of the voters since Arne Carlson, a moderate Republican, was reelected in 1994.* If Mark Dayton wins the governor’s chair, and if the DFL manages to retain control of both houses of the legislature there’s a significant chance that a bill establishing ranked choice voting with instant run-off will become law for state and local elections. Although some DFLers are skeptical, I’m confident it will be of far more benefit to them than the GOP. The biggest partisan beneficiary, at least in the short run, will be the Independence Party, since they’re probably getting the bulk of the exiled moderate Republicans. (e.g. Carlson has endorsed their candidate for governor.) Greens will also benefit, since their voters are vulnerable to the “Don’t waste your vote” meme. But those who will most benefit are all the citizens of the state because it will make it much less likely that another wing nut like Pawlenty can get elected and continue trashing the state.
* Carlson would not even have been in a position to be reelected if the candidacy of the right wing nominee in 1990 hadn’t crashed and burned in October of that year when it came out that he got his jollies by feeling up his early teen age daughter’s friends when they were swimming in the family’s pool.
There’s nothing wrong with a split infinitive… many of the best writers split them.
You’ve got excellent taste in music. That was one of her most compelling songs, but truly she never sang a bad one.
To paraphrase Bob Dylan, those who remain on the caboose of the train need someone to blame.
Growing up and working in Jim Crow deep south gives me a particular appreciation. These neo-racists and apologists for southern “culture” give me chills. Serving the impoverished African American community in the last years of segregation gave me a deep appreciation for their culture. Billie Holliday is one of the best..