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Early Morning Swim

By: Blue Texan Monday September 20, 2010 4:44 am

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  • Maybe instead they could do something about jobs?
  • The new GOP: just like the Bush/Cheney/Bush/Reagan GOP.
  • Turd Blossom vs. the Teabaggers.
  • Now’s the time to cut Social Security benefits.
  • The angry rich.
  • Newt, still running the same playbook.
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RevBev September 20th, 2010 at 4:57 am
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BT,,,what a list of topics…Happy Monday.

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ghostof911 September 20th, 2010 at 5:00 am
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Obama Aides Weigh Bid to Tie the G.O.P. to the Tea Party

It almost smells like Rove-style antics are being co-opted by the Democratic establishment.

Jobs? Of what importance are they?

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gesneri September 20th, 2010 at 5:08 am
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NYT quotes Congressional Democrats as saying that the President’s aides are more concerned with positioning him for the 2012 election than with the midterms. Seems a mite shortsighted to me, but perhaps the opinion I read on another thread here over the weekend is correct–the President plans to use the disaster of a Republican congress to engineer a comeback in 2012. What bulls**t. This is one former Democrat who won’t be fooled again.

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Margaret September 20th, 2010 at 5:13 am
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The New York Times also figured out that unemployed people over 50 have the hardest time finding jobs of any demographic. I’m going to be a 99er soon and very shortly after that I’ll be homeless. What reason do I have to even vote? Looks like no matter who is in charge, I’m just f*cked.

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Blue Texan September 20th, 2010 at 5:13 am
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In response to ghostof911 @ 2

I wish it were Rovian. It’s too obvious and lame to be Rove.

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ghostof911 September 20th, 2010 at 5:14 am
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According to key anti-abortion lawmaker Rep. Joseph Pitts (R-Pa.), GOP leadership gave their reassurances that lighting-rod issues related to abortion would be addressed in the final, yet-to-be-seen “governing agenda.”

The religious zealouts in Pitts’ district (parts of counties Chester and Lancaster) make Southern Baptisits look like commie sympathizers.

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Blue Texan September 20th, 2010 at 5:15 am
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In response to RevBev @ 1

“The angry rich” linked fixed — pointing to Krugman.

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ghostof911 September 20th, 2010 at 5:17 am
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In response to Blue Texan @ 5

Either way, it’s distasteful to those who wish to vote Democratic because of the lack of integrity of the other party.

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Blue Texan September 20th, 2010 at 5:19 am
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In response to ghostof911 @ 8

Uh, but — the Tea Party *is* the GOP.

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RevBev September 20th, 2010 at 5:19 am
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Nice choice….

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Blue Texan September 20th, 2010 at 5:22 am
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In response to RevBev @ 10

First link was a mistake — I only link to Putz to mock him.

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Margaret September 20th, 2010 at 5:22 am
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In response to gesneri @ 3

It’s been plain for quite a while now that the future Obama is concerned about is his own.

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demi September 20th, 2010 at 5:23 am
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In response to RevBev @ 1

Good Morning, RevBev
Saw your note late in the day. The problem is little thing called the hard drive. It’s an oldie, or maybe some cast a spell on it. :o

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eCAHNomics September 20th, 2010 at 5:25 am
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Good morning all.

cnbc cites Harwood (WSJ) and Greagory as saying their sources say the tax cuts for the rich will be extended.

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demi September 20th, 2010 at 5:25 am
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Good Morning, BT and all Pups
I don’t think I’ll worry about O’Donnell. I think people see through her shallowness. No policies and doesn’t seem like she’s the kind of loyal patriot people are looking for.

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SouthernDragon September 20th, 2010 at 5:27 am
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Mornin’, BT, pups

Krugman’s on a roll. Is he finally giving up on the centrist bullshit?

Fuck the rich. Let ‘em eat each other for a change.

Ah, Lady Gaga.

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ghostof911 September 20th, 2010 at 5:27 am
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In response to ghostof911 @ 6

The current pandering to the religious right is a replay of 1994, for those who remember. The religious right came out in force while everyone else stayed home, giving Newt his Contract on America.

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Margaret September 20th, 2010 at 5:28 am
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Krugman is spot on once again:

And when the tax fight is over, one way or another, you can be sure that the people currently defending the incomes of the elite will go back to demanding cuts in Social Security and aid to the unemployed. America must make hard choices, they’ll say; we all have to be willing to make sacrifices.

But when they say “we,” they mean “you.” Sacrifice is for the little people.

Apparently the only thing that’s not for the little people is income.

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billybugs September 20th, 2010 at 5:29 am
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Nasty Newty Satan’s little imp.
So who’s the little troublemaker picking on now?

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Bluetoe2 September 20th, 2010 at 5:31 am
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In response to Margaret @ 18

But sacrifices by the “little people” would be the bipartisan thing to do.

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billybugs September 20th, 2010 at 5:32 am
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In response to SouthernDragon @ 16

Before I heard about her involvement and activism against DADT, I just thought she was another Hollywood flake.
I stand corrected !

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RevBev September 20th, 2010 at 5:33 am
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In response to billybugs @ 19

The Newt is sliding down his crazy path; Sorry Clinton would call him a “smart man.” Hard for crazy to be truly smart.

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billybugs September 20th, 2010 at 5:34 am
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In response to Bluetoe2 @ 20

I heard Alpo on toast was pretty good.

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allan September 20th, 2010 at 5:35 am
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Shorter angry rich: You will pry Junior’s trust fund from my accountant’s cold, dead hands.

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Margaret September 20th, 2010 at 5:36 am
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In response to billybugs @ 23

Looks like I’ll have the chance to find out…
EDIT: Or will if I can afford toast.

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Bluetoe2 September 20th, 2010 at 5:37 am
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In response to billybugs @ 23

Fancy Feast with a bernaise sauce is sublime. Expect Obama to work his “magic” on how pet food is not only nutritious but “green” and it just tastes great.

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SouthernDragon September 20th, 2010 at 5:37 am
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In response to billybugs @ 21

Smart young woman. She knows her time in the limelight is limited and is making the best of it. While the pols and pundits are focusing their attention on the likes of us, the over 40 crowd, they’ve ignored those under 30. Big mistake.

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SouthernDragon September 20th, 2010 at 5:38 am
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In response to allan @ 24

Goddamn right I will.

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Shoto September 20th, 2010 at 5:39 am
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Morning BT and Firepups:

Pierce had a nice little piece on Newt last Friday. Part the Ultimate.

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billybugs September 20th, 2010 at 5:39 am
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In response to Bluetoe2 @ 26

Pretty sad when pets eat better’n people !

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RevBev September 20th, 2010 at 5:41 am
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In response to Bluetoe2 @ 26

Sorta like ketchsup is a vegetable, dontcha’ know?

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billybugs September 20th, 2010 at 5:42 am
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In response to SouthernDragon @ 27

I now have great respect for her, and can see she is more than just a bunch of crazy costumes.

Geez, I gotta learn not to be so closed minded!

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RevBev September 20th, 2010 at 5:43 am
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In response to Bluetoe2 @ 20

I wonder if the Pres. reads Krugman….

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SouthernDragon September 20th, 2010 at 5:45 am
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In response to billybugs @ 32

Gotta start hanging out around some young folks. Hangin’ with the young anarchists/socialists with St Pete for Peace and others keeps my mind fresh.

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Bluetoe2 September 20th, 2010 at 5:45 am
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In response to RevBev @ 33

Obama reads Friedman, Milton. Can’t break those U. of Chicago ties.

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Margaret September 20th, 2010 at 5:46 am
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In response to RevBev @ 33

I’m sure Rahm clips items like that right out of the paper before he brings it in to the president, wagging his tail.

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SouthernDragon September 20th, 2010 at 5:47 am
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In response to Bluetoe2 @ 35

I’ve said this before but I’m willin’ to bet Summers has Friedman’s corpse on display on a pedestal in his office.

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demi September 20th, 2010 at 5:48 am
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In response to Margaret @ 36

Squirrel!

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allan September 20th, 2010 at 5:48 am
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In response to RevBev @ 33

Pretty unlikely. O’s little performance at the $30,000 per plate soiree in Greenwich
was the equivalent of Bush’s “Some call you the elite. I call you my base.”

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Margaret September 20th, 2010 at 5:49 am
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In response to demi @ 38

squirrel?

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RevBev September 20th, 2010 at 5:51 am
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In response to SouthernDragon @ 34

NPR had a big piece this am about the “young Repubs” angling to out the current powers…of course they deny it;)

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RevBev September 20th, 2010 at 5:52 am
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In response to Bluetoe2 @ 35

All that birds of a feather…wished we had paid more attention.

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Margaret September 20th, 2010 at 5:52 am
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Heaven forbid a day go by in which NPR didn’t focus on Republicans. I haven’t listened to it in almost two years.

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SouthernDragon September 20th, 2010 at 5:53 am
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Off to swim in the great capitalist cesspool.

US KIA Afghanistan: 1,282

US KIA Irak: 4,421

Iraki and Afghan casualties: estimates vary to over 1.5M

US MBS 2010: 32,488

Dirty Fucking Hippies Were Right

Be good to yourselves, and all other living things.

Namaste

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billybugs September 20th, 2010 at 5:53 am
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In response to SouthernDragon @ 34

I work part time for a social services agency. Most of my coworkers are 20 something college students or recent grads. For the most part we are all on the same page.I have kinda become the resident expert on political matters and an flattered when the young people seek my opinion.
I have to admit though, I’ve probably learned more from them and it’s great to get their perspectives on issues.

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Bluetoe2 September 20th, 2010 at 5:53 am
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In response to SouthernDragon @ 37

Who was the English economist/philosopher that is on display at Cambridge or maybe it’s Oxford, sitting in a glass case with walking stick in hand. Bentham?

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Margaret September 20th, 2010 at 5:54 am
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In response to RevBev @ 42

I was pretty thoroughly bashed for doing just that. I was a racist, I was a PUMA, I was a closeted Republican troll for it.

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demi September 20th, 2010 at 5:56 am
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In response to Margaret @ 40

Uh, the tail wagging. The dog from UP as the media. Um, Rahm getting O’s attention on anything but the truth. I guess I’m feeling a little obscure this am.

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perrylogan September 20th, 2010 at 5:57 am
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In response to Margaret @ 47

Since the beginning, Obama supporters have reacted to criticism by attacking their fellow progressives.

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RevBev September 20th, 2010 at 5:58 am
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In response to Margaret @ 47

Were you in the Hillary camp? Sure seems likes a long time ago.

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eCAHNomics September 20th, 2010 at 5:58 am
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In response to Bluetoe2 @ 46

Yes.

His head was stolen (& I guess recovered) and has now been replaced by a wax model.

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Margaret September 20th, 2010 at 5:58 am
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In response to demi @ 48

Or maybe I’m still asleep

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Margaret September 20th, 2010 at 5:59 am
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In response to perrylogan @ 49

I’m hip.

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billybugs September 20th, 2010 at 5:59 am
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Well, time for my plate of Alpo and then off to work.

Bye now!

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Bluetoe2 September 20th, 2010 at 5:59 am
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In response to perrylogan @ 49

Obama supporters are not progressives.

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RevBev September 20th, 2010 at 6:00 am
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In response to perrylogan @ 49

My biggest “shout down” was with a TX Convervative who was “sputtering” that he is a “Socialist/ a Communist….a I don’t know what he is…” Hysterical in hindsight.

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Margaret September 20th, 2010 at 6:00 am
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In response to RevBev @ 50

For a time. By the time the Texas primary rolled around they were really the only two left. I was lamenting the lesser of two evils choice once again.

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eCAHNomics September 20th, 2010 at 6:01 am
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And, in other news, Iraq is now pacified & the surge worked.

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demi September 20th, 2010 at 6:02 am
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In response to Margaret @ 52

And, it’s just fun to say.

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Margaret September 20th, 2010 at 6:02 am
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In response to Bluetoe2 @ 55

Maybe but some were, or thought they were. They thought he was this wonderful progressive savior that was going to save them country. I tried to point out that they either didn’t know what a progressive was or weren’t paying attention. That didn’t sit well.

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RevBev September 20th, 2010 at 6:02 am
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In response to eCAHNomics @ 58

That’s so good and the Gulf is clean…

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RevBev September 20th, 2010 at 6:03 am
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In response to Margaret @ 60

Yeah….a personal attack doesn’t get far;)

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eCAHNomics September 20th, 2010 at 6:07 am
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In response to RevBev @ 61

I have an ongoing dialogue with my (very much D) friend in TX. She is a money manager & they pay a lot of bucks for a consultant who knows all about the oil industry. You can guess what the consultant is saying about the Gulf gusher. Latest is oil-eating microbes have cleaned up a lot of junk. I’ve kept my eyes open for evidence to the contrary. She’s receptive to it, but it isn’t definitive yet. One item to the contrary is that the microbes ate the gas, not the oil.

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SouthernDragon September 20th, 2010 at 6:09 am
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In response to Margaret @ 60

Didn’t sit well when I said both Hillary and Obama were corporatists and we’d just see more of the same. Hated having to choose between a neoliberal and a lunatic(s) in the general.

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eCAHNomics September 20th, 2010 at 6:11 am
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In response to SouthernDragon @ 64

Well, Bill-o pushed the envelop in that direction, so what would you expect from Hillary?

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demi September 20th, 2010 at 6:12 am
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In response to eCAHNomics @ 63

But, then are the microbes toxic? And, then whatever consumes the microbes are also toxic?
I just thought of something. Did they try praying the oil away?

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Margaret September 20th, 2010 at 6:13 am
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In response to RevBev @ 62

Except what I said was in response to my being called racist, PUMA or Republican troll

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Margaret September 20th, 2010 at 6:14 am
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In response to SouthernDragon @ 64

Hated having to choose between a neoliberal and a lunatic(s) in the general.

Yep, that’s the way I felt about the situation.

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magnet48 September 20th, 2010 at 6:17 am
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For whatever it may be worth,it seems to me once Clinton reformed welfare,the lower classes were no longer a concern of politicians,parties,or the media.I noticed that everything got kicked up a notch or ten.The lush life was the stated & pictured goal in more & more ads,people being interviewed were always upscale,compared to how things were in previous decades.Low income,average income is so out of place now in america.
(Speaking as a former “welfare mother” who raised herself up by her own bootstraps all the way to unemployment & soc. sec. @ 62,having earned an all-time high income of $13.00/hr).I WANT TO BE HEARD!
I will not go silent into that good night.

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eCAHNomics September 20th, 2010 at 6:18 am
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In response to demi @ 66

After the oil is gone, the microbes die. (There’s always some natural leakage, so a small number remain alive and then they opportunistically multiply quickly when more food becomes available.) I’ve seen articles on these for years (decades?). Apparently they don’t work well on surface spills, which are too spread out. The new info (according to USG reports) is that they are in much greater profusion at ocean depths. Hadn’t thought to ask whether they are poisonous when dead. Will do so.

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demi September 20th, 2010 at 6:22 am
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In response to eCAHNomics @ 70

Thank you.

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twolf1 September 20th, 2010 at 6:23 am
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In response to eCAHNomics @ 70

Don’t the oil eating microbes also use up most of the oxygen in the water? Giving us gigantic fish kills as we have seen very recently.

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Margaret September 20th, 2010 at 6:24 am
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In response to eCAHNomics @ 70

I doubt they are poisonous. Microbes break down things much like we do to get nutrition and hydrocarbons are after all, atomically very similar to carbohydrates.

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eCAHNomics September 20th, 2010 at 6:25 am
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In response to twolf1 @ 72

Don’t know the answer to that, but at a guess, if they are more naturally occurring in deep water, I’d guess their oxygen requirements are not great. Do you know if the fish kills come from depths or closer to the surface?

Great Qs. I’ll keep my eyes open & also ask my friend to ask her consultant.

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Margaret September 20th, 2010 at 6:26 am
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In response to twolf1 @ 72

But what are dead fish when there’s no oil in the water? And after all dead fish aren’t a concern, BP’s liability is. /s

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eCAHNomics September 20th, 2010 at 6:27 am
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In response to Margaret @ 73

Thanks. I got the impression that they aren’t, but I haven’t followed the issue closely in the past; just noticed the possibility. Will pay more attention now.

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Margaret September 20th, 2010 at 6:27 am
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In response to eCAHNomics @ 74

Yeah but greater availability of food requires greater use of oxygen to metabolize it.

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eCAHNomics September 20th, 2010 at 6:31 am
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In response to Margaret @ 77

They could be anaerobic, couldn’t they?

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twolf1 September 20th, 2010 at 6:31 am
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Never fear, the ever trustworthy Federal scientists say that these microbes aren’t depleting the gulf of oxygen.

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Margaret September 20th, 2010 at 6:34 am
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Typically, the difference between a hydrocarbon and a carbohydrate is the presence of oxygen. Oxygen plus hydrocarbon = carbohydrate. I’ll bet the microbes use a LOT of oxygen.
CH4 = methane
CH2OH = glucose.

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eCAHNomics September 20th, 2010 at 6:34 am
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In response to twolf1 @ 79

Nice example of the propaganda wurlitzer. I gather from your link, that they are not anaerobic. Thanks.

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Margaret September 20th, 2010 at 6:37 am
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In response to eCAHNomics @ 78

Not to metabolize hydrocarbons. See my 80

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Bluetoe2 September 20th, 2010 at 6:37 am
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The AFL-CIO is sending out a mailing of 2.5 million. That’ll show em.

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eCAHNomics September 20th, 2010 at 6:39 am
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In response to Margaret @ 82

Got it.

I’ve passed the Qs onto my friend. I think she’ll follow thru. Expect the info she’ll get from the consultant will be the same ole USG propaganda that twolf linked to but no harm in asking.

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eCAHNomics September 20th, 2010 at 6:41 am
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I’m off to more pleasant tasks. No offense to anyone here, ya know. Just that the topics are soooo depressing.

Be well.

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dick c September 20th, 2010 at 6:50 am
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In response to ghostof911 @ 2

Republicans use this type of pitch because they’ve got nothing else. Dems are resorting to this tactic because they gone the way of Republicans and just don’t have that much they can really hold up.that will impress the average person. Wat do they got? Some gains in Health Care that mostly don’t take effect for a few more years, and even then will leave us with what will probably still be the most expensive and least accessible health care in modern industrial world. “Ended” a war that should have never started, while continuing another that has totally lost it’s way and with that–any chance of success. They’ve propped up the rich and struggle to get even modest programs to help everyone else. Give me a break. It’s not surprising they’re resorting to using fear to sway voters.

Of course I didn’t say anything new, just need to vent to keep from throwing something.

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RevBev September 20th, 2010 at 6:53 am
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In response to dick c @ 86

So Well done….

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dick c September 20th, 2010 at 6:59 am
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In response to billybugs @ 23

I heard Alpo on toast was pretty good.

Gag… Here, you can have the rest of mine. Call me a snob, I’ll stick with Friskies.

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papau September 20th, 2010 at 8:32 am
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In response to eCAHNomics @ 63

Only microbe downside – and it is a massive downside – is the fact that the water is deplete of oxygen after they eat and any water life that moves into that water dies.

Florida southwest coast has had kills for years as the Mississippi river collects oil based fertilizer run off and sends it across the gulf. But the effect is everywhere = Mass had a 10,000 fish kill where run off fed the microbes in the marshes and the marshes became death traps with no oxygen.

But Feds say oxygen levels have “only dropped 20%” so no worry – http://blog.al.com/live/2010/09/oil-eating_microbes_havent_cau.html

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SueTheRedWA September 20th, 2010 at 8:57 am
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The article on job-hunting over age 50 rings true. Brother-in-law applied for a job, which he was highly qualified, but he is 55. Company is rumored to not hire anyone over 50. With a 1,000 applicants, he didn’t even have a chance. As is, he is working a two-day drive away. Pay is good, but the job is erratic.

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onitgoes September 20th, 2010 at 10:02 am
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Monday am airplane commute = NYT read.

Sucks to be over 50 and jobless; did some “investigative” journo-ing with that one but with no solutions offered, nor anything remotely close to a brighter picture for a better day (because there isn’t one). But no one said: hey, why not lower Soc Sec retirement age?? Heaven forfend.

Krugman states the obvious for once. The rich are whining just because they can, and they don’t give a sh*t about anyone else. Krugman neglects to mention that many conservatives have been carefully taught to feel sorry for the obscenely wealthy and to support the 1% in no “new taxes” just because…

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