Gerry Rafferty – Baker Street
I love that sax…! What’s on your mind tonite…?
like a time capsule
Aloha, newt…! ;-)
prolly should have made your one-hit-wonders post, too
Goodness, a boisterous crowd tonite…! ;-)
aloha tut — you made me do a double take dood — sax was not the word that i first thought it was *laughing*
Al is a Gawd.
Can’t get enough of this.
What’s on my mind tonight? The same thing that’s on it every night. How to take over the world!
You know I participated in many musical atrocities in the late ’70s and early ’80s, like the video above in this post and this one.
Still makes me feel dirty.
yeah, so what else is new?
Once you have conquered all the radio denizens, what’s left but a sandy beach and a frosty drink?
*heh* I did anticipate at least one remark… ;-)
*arrgh* The NSA critters must be squatting on my wires again…! 8-(
Sure… I call ‘em out and viola…! ;-)
Mountain perches and awesome beer!
I asked a friend what the so-called Liberal Agenda was. Her answer: “World Domination!”
Works for me.:)
Be seriously folks. I was thinking about how to retool my letter to the NRDC and the UCSF med center people into a post for Salon.
I have some of the same theme issues. But today Will Bunch’s comment about “leaving the activism to me” reminded me that the journalists, even if they believe that the FDA has weak science and they include comments from Dr. Solomon or other groups are always going to provide the FDA and government offical line. It wouldn’t be until years later if a FOIA request is filed that we might see if they FDA are getting any pressure from the seafood industry or the White House to open up sections of the gulf faster or if the decision to lower the bar in standards came from outside.
Second that clean sound well integrated percussions, guitar and strings! Kinda jazzy with hot 88s. Thanks Newt!
Hey, We’ve got it all… Lofty perches, sandy beaches, and great beer…! ;-)
I was thinking about calling up the Chefs in the gulf shrimp/seafood shindig and asking.
Are you planning on serving Gulf seafood to children?
Are you planning on serving Gulf seafood to pregnant women?
Did you know the testing rules for “safety” aren’t calibrated for children but for 176 lb man? Did you know that the FDA didn’t take into account the impact of potentially tainted seafood on pregnant women?
Who verified your Gulf shrimp/seafood is safe? Please give me a specific agency or person.
Did you know that no Gulf seafood is tested for the dispersant Corexit? Did you know that no seafood is tested for heavy metals?
Did you know that the Louisiana Seafood Promotion Board has asked BP for money for more testing of the seafood and to market gulf seafood?
Did you know that if any customers get sick from the seafood you serve that the fisherman who brought in the catch will be liable?
evening, CT – how’s the island tonight>
Nope – Colorado killz ya in the beer department; sorry bucko.
But we sorely lack the beach department.
I was talking with my stepmom today and she’s sending a disc of pictures. She was evilly giggling at them and delighting in torturing me about them.
There’s one in ’78 with me in a sky blue tux with black velvet trim. At the time I had a massive ‘fro; very brassy red curls.
As she’s describing it I’m recalling/recoiling in horror that’s the Honor Choir picture, where I’m playing piano for the choir for Manilow’s “Can’t Smile Without You.”
Inamorrata is another of their compositions I am listening to as background to the post…they put out a lot of notes very nicely put together in a rich tapestry of rythms. Glad Suz started out with some jazz for a change.
Gorgeous evening here…! ;-)
It’s truly sad how much the coqui frog invasion has impacted our isle…! What used to be only the rustling of the palm fronds has descended into the infernal din of the coqui’s…! 8-(
Is this true?
I was in the grocery store recently, and the meat cutter had a minute to chat. I asked if they were seeing higher prices or less selection wrt seafood. He replied the company line: there’s so much testing going on now that I’m sure fish is safer now than before.
I did not even bother to reply.
Edit: this is in the Bay Area.
Dood… Hawaii has some microbrewerys that put Boulder’s finest to shame…! 8-P
We shall have to swap some to test!
There’s a little pub/brewery around the corner from us that pumps out this IPA they call “The Man Beer.”
It killz the Kona IPA I had in Maui a couple years ago.
Glad Suz started out with some jazz for a change.
Suz did what Mi Amigo…? ;-)
You’re talking about this one…
This one is on my side…! ;-)
What a sad song. Beautiful, but sad.
…He’s got this dream about buyin’ some land
He’s gonna give up the booze and the one night stands
And then he’ll settle down there’s a quiet little town
And forget about everything…
Watch the beginning of this video. (I figured out how to get the Video cued up to the exact right place!)
And the “More tested than ever before” line is just such BS.
Did they test the seafood for the dispersant Corexit?
Did you find any?
See how well that works?
Aloha, wundermaus…! I’d like to welcome ya to the Lake…!
Aloha, yourself. How’s the mountain these days?
Ian Welch posted this on the drug cartels stopping production from PEMEX Mexico is bleeding like Nigeria. http://www.ianwelsh.net/ Remeber Ian’s great economic posts on the Lake?
Wish I saw more of it…! They haven’t needed my services for too long now…! 8-(
I do, though I think that article is by his co-blogger, Dave Anderson.
What’s sad is reading some of the stuff that Ian re-publishes months or years after he wrote it. He saw what was coming pretty clearly. He wasn’t the only one, but for the most part no one was willing to pay attention at the time. They wanted to hear how wonderful Obama was.
I know the feeling. Are they going through some sort of down time? My little CO2 widget updates each month, and they take the measurements for that up there somewhere.
Hey CT. Agreed: that sax is great. Brings back great memories.
The tubes dood… that is jazz to my ears riffing off of the bongo drum…you call it what you like. Maybe latin jazz. You calling me out? Are you ready to rumble? G)
Ian has been spot on for eons…! I’ve always read what he’s had to say…! ;-)
Agree it was sickening to watch knowing the sellout was on before he was sworn in with Bushco cronies and now they are prolonging the pain.
That is a problem. I read a lot of time travel fiction. What if you could travel into the future, see the problem and come back. What would you do to convince the people that you were right?
I feel this way about the gulf seafood problem.
Remember the EPA at ground zero saying, “It’s safe to breathe the air.” and then we find out the truth that there was pressure from Commerce and National Security to lie about the data?
Is the FDA doing the same here? If something would mess up your data, just don’t look for it.
The EPA didn’t reveal it’s data after 9/11 because, why?
The FDA doesn’t reveal all it’s testing data because, why?
And what happens when scientists say, These tests are BS, the bar is too low. What is the their response? “We disagree.”
If you can get a single chef to break ranks, IMHO you’re likely to get a lot more. These guys are artists with a very upscale clientelle who don’t give a damn about the fate of the Gulf fishermen, but their concern for the fate of children and pregnant women makes good press.
My apologies for being so cynical.
Spocko, please keep up the ‘good fight’…! To few have picked up that ball…! As I feel about the Palestinian’s plight…! 8-(
I wasn’t quite that onto him at the time, as I remember. I saw troubling signs, though, particularly with the people he’d chosen to advise him. That turned out to be the biggest tell for me. Anyone who looked at his past actions could anticipate trouble, and the only thing I’ve been surprised by is that it’s even worse than I expected. None of it has shocked me, even his complete acceptance of the lawlessness of the Bush years.
Right you are it is on his site. And he predicts Dems will be slaughtered in the mid terms as the polls are indicating. It looks ugly.
Yeah, I was spinnin that disc in my mid 20′s at a local college radio station.
Everyone spun it. I hated it after a while.
The most likely result is that they’ll either ignore you or have you confined for your own protection.
Of course, as I wrote yesterday, I’m not sure what level of testing I would be comfortable with in the case of the Gulf shrimp. They should sample catches as they come in, at least for a while. That much seems logical.
Why do you think the thresholds are too high?
Oh, CT, you have NO idea what this song means to me, every single word.
Thanks for this.
I love the jazz, and Al. And Return To Forever, anything Chick did. Or Flora, Airto, Al, and all of them/
But in regards to Baker Street, this was one I never got enuff of about the same time, and loved, as opposed to that crap pop 40.
Year Of The Cat
But this was my FAV Al Stewart.
You’re most welcome, Teddy…! *g*
I’m glad to have had the opportunity…! ;-)
Have you no shame. Pure pop crap.
Oh I agree and you aren’t being too cynical at all.
What they need is someone with a strong science background to explain to them what is going on. That, yes this food isn’t going to make your average man cancer because the are usually over 180 lbs. What it will do is possibly give kids and pregnant problems. Remember how we educated the public about eating sustainable fish and taught people to avoid mercury laden tuna? Well it’s the same deal here. Unless and until the FDA starts testing seafood with gas chromatography, at the levels they used in other spills and test for heavy metals and dispersants we will only serve it to men weighing over 176 lbs and who sign a waiver they won’t eat seafood again this week.
The chefs needs some scientists explaining this on their side and challenging the White House and the FDA and the Seafood Marketing Association and the Restaurant Association.
The problem is actually getting the scientists to be more aggressive to set up this conflicts. The press WILL write about it and they have been bring it up, but the press are also including the economic costs of this event AS IF THEIR WAS NO OTHER CHOICE.
There is. This cost of human health of the spill is being passed on to the public. The kids are the test subjects. This should be a cost that BP should cover.
I’ve been predicting much the same, just not quite as long. Our reasoning differs somewhat, which should be all the more disturbing to Democratic partisans.
Btw, I’d like to buy ya a beer at some point…! ;-)
Why Ian was taken off of the Lake? He was telling the truth on a well read site that could have alerted more important people that we were driving the world econ into the ditch with the wars and fluffed up financial sector.
A lot of great Canadian minds about…Naomi Klein being one. So Obama puts these economist types in the drivers seat and they immediately save big capital at the expense of rest of us. Disaster Capitalism was the housing bubble we we may not get over for a long time…meanwhile the tools of Disaster Capitalism are taking us apart piece by piece. Shrinking state budgets, shrinking county budgets, shrinking assests for giving foundations and cities.
We’ll be there sometime, it’s been too long now since we were — I looked at my Hawaii 05 t-shirt the other day and realized that meant it had been more than five years, as it was turning 05 when last we were there!
And Citizens United decision under Obama.
No one was “taken off the Lake.”
People move on, some of them.
Well I think the threshold are too high because I’m reading everything that Dr. Solomon is writing about this as well as Rick Ott, and three other toxicologists.
Good question. I’ll track down the specific article where they talk about how the bar for safety was raised for the Deepwater spill vs. the the oil tanker Prestige spill or the Valdez spill.
As I remember Ian’s explanation of what happened, he was the one who decided to leave. In any event, I think it would be wrong to just assume Ian was sent packing, or any such thing.
I miss Ian!
I have NO shame.
I’ll play “Feelings” and “To All the Girls I’ve Loved Before” and AnyBarryManilow tune if there’s a C-Note in the tip jar.
Otherwise, uhn uhn. Gah.
Btw, If Abercrombie gets elected Guv, with a +17 lead so far, Ya can get married here…! At least Honeymoon if the h8ters don’t appeal…! 8-)
This cost of human health of the spill is being passed on to the public. The kids are the test subjects. This should be a cost that BP should cover.
Exactly! Did you get in touch with Freddie Minshall? If so, was he any help? I’m not close with him, but I know someone who is/was. He’d be an excellent ally.
He has his own blog now, and he sometimes writes for OpenLeft. Not the same as having him here, I know, but he’s still around.
That was the way I’d interpreted it…! Ian departed on his own volition…!
Ian went to work for the man, and as such, joined the Veal Pen.
Anyone who thinks he’s not shifted his proggy points to the Veal Points, ain’t reading him.
He’s a sell out, a cop out, and a corporate able shill.
Heh, the CNote . . .
God I hate Manilow’s music.
Is yer nick name Mandy, by any chance?
Nice coverage of the election outcomes… the critters will not change as my Rep has shown and they are handing themselves their own assess. Wow, I am still supporting one state candidate who I think is a good person tomorrow night. The Rs are going to brag brag brag.
You know what has been interesting is reading all the journalists doing stories on this topic. There have been a lot, and they are often quite through and good. But they are all stuck in the:
Some are concerned. The FDA says, “It’s safe.”
A few say, “It’s not tested enough.
The FDA says, “Yes it is.”
The FDA always gets the last word. Loaded with Bush appointees. Remember the other regulator bodies and their failures? Why the trust of the FDA. You trusted the EPA after 9/11 look how that turned out.
I followed them very closely during the pet food tainting crisis. They defer to the industry first. Even if it means choosing a testing protocol that is weaker than it should be.
If you select the tests and the levels of safety you can win. It’s like the Right Wing changing the laws so they aren’t breaking them like they used to.
The people who buy the seafood say “Well I guess we’ll trust the FDA because they are the experts. and besides we want to help the poor fishermen.”
But if you read quotes from the fishermen they say,. “There is still oil out there! They are making us sign forms that we are liable if you eat it and get sick! Don’t eat this crap on our account out of guilt! We don’t want to kill you, besides if you get sick you are going to sue the fishermen NOT BP. That is what we have to sign at the dock when we sell the seafood.”
FWIW, Ginny Phillips got excellent coverage from her local right-wing newspaper.
I’ll let that slide.
I loved his economic analysis, and learned so much from it. I wish I had been clever enough to short some key players, but I didn’t have time to do the research in those days.
*harumpf* Indeed…! We’ll just have to agree to disagree there, ‘hoss’…! ;-)
He brought balance, facts and common sense. Me too.
I don’t know whom Ian works for, but I see no difference in his writing now versus before. He was ripping the keepers of the Veal Pen a new one long before most folks here recognized the problem, and he’s still doing it. Without someone dissecting the articles he’s written lately and describing how they work to the benefit of the current administration, I can’t take this criticism seriously.
Hi Spocko. Right. So, who you need is the National Academy of Science. In principle, they trump everyone.
I don’t know how you get to them, but it would probably be through an academic scientist who is a member and to some level specializes in this area.
I’ve not been reading him. I liked what he said here, and what he predicted seems to have been dead on.
I’m sorry to hear that he’s gone over to the “veal pen.” But I’d love to hear more of his analyses and predictions. This time I’d try to act on them.
I did not, but thank you for reminding me. I’ve been actively trying to contact the FDA. But they are busy talking to real people.
Their spokes people often are very good at convincing the reporters that there is nothing that people should worry their pretty little heads about.
And this is an old trick that I learned from my times working in the high tech industry. People who have some knowledge about the industry are very hesitant to challenge the expert. Or if they are they can challenge them one answer down. So for example say I ask the FDA, “Is it true that you haven’t tested the shrimp and other seafood for the chemical components in Corexit.”
They won’t say, “Correct, we don’t. ” They will say. “We are testing for 10 things. We have determined that because the Corexit breaks down in 28 days we don’t need to test it anymore.” Now you would need to know how to respond to THAT response to move the conversation forward.
One of the things that I tried to do during the pet food crisis was to educate the journalists and like them to OUR experts (not the pet food experts) so the journalists could ask them questions and follow up questions to their bullshit answers.
Shame on me for not keeping up with Ian.
That said, unless he’s getting some money or access from someone, concerns about his veal-pen-ness are a little hard to believe… without, as I said, reading him.
And having read him in the past, it’s unthinkable.
No. She came and she gave without taking. Whatever that means.
I’m more of a Wendy O Williams type; without the cool car and death thing.
…I can’t take this criticism seriously…
You and I, both…! ;-)
I think BP can help the fishermen by buying any catches that turn out to be contaminated. That’s what they should be doing. This is their mess, and their subcontractors’.
Hey. I WANT to be hired by the Veal Pen. Look at me! Look at me! I’m a very tame cow. Moo. Moo. Please make those checks payable to Mr. Spocko. direct deposit to the Vulcan Planetary Bank.
I certainly hope that you are correct. I liked his stuff that I read.
The trick is to remain cloaked in teh veal long enough to both get the access needed to fulfill your mission of taking down media goons, and subvert the pen itself from within in time to make a hasty retreat.
Looks like she acquired a few bad habits over the years, like carrying incendiary devices in her car.
You don’t mean that for a hot second.
What’s the deal, are you going through Pon Farr?
I could ruin the country for less than they’re earning, I’m sure.
Exactly. Here is a fun fact that I found out during the pet food crisis.
What happens to the tainted pet food? It turns out that there are these people who go around and buy odd lots of recalled and expired food. They then feed it to chickens, pigs and cows.
If you didn’t have a rule that the tainted seafood should be destroyed it would go to feed chickens and pigs. Or it would go into pet food via rendering plants. So the very stuff that didn’t kill you would go on to kill Fluffy via his Tasty Treats.
20 million chickens and 56 thousand hogs were fed the same pet food that killed 4,000 cats and dogs. The FDA put out a report that said that eating the chickens that ate the tainted food wasn’t a problem because of the “dilution effect” They were very clear that they didn’t think anyone should be concerned. Okay we asked, cool. So whose 20, 000,000 chickens were they? What was the name of the processor?
FDA: None of your business.
The public doesn’t have a right to know. The can not decide for themselves if they should avoid one manufacturer of chickens over another.
They FDA was concerned the public would over react and it would hurt the corporation.
*heh* Paypal works marvelously too…! ;-)
Given what you said, I stick by my recommendation. I can provide details as to why but probably shouldn’t.
Nah. Just feeling broke. I honestly can admit that I’m jealous of the right wing think tankers. I’m not smart enough to be a academic on the left.
Think about who is driving the national discourse. None college graduates and second string academics working for the rightwing think tanks.
My style is too aggressive for the non-profit on the left, but would fit into to the style of the right.
Wingnut welfare is the bomb! Nobody went hungry working for the Koch Brothers.
I hope they don’t use it for veggie fertilizer or I am up the toxic creek. I am happy vegetarian. And you are rattling some mean ass cages: USDA, USEPA next on my list would be Center for Disease Control Atlanta GA. (CDC) I think they do OSHA rules too as well as toxic substances that are EDCs (Endocrine Disruptor Compounds)
I can’t claim to be correct here, I’m just saying I don’t see what I’m supposed to see. Here’s a quote from the last article he wrote that wasn’t a reprint, which was a week and a half ago:
Seriously, could they be bigger idiots?
That was in reference to the White House’s notion that what we need to fix the economy is more tax breaks for business. Nothing in the rest of the article is any more conciliatory.
What having a day job has affected, as far as I can tell, is how much he blogs. I don’t see the content being any different. People who think otherwise are encouraged to provide examples.
I feel like I’m living in a dystopian sci-fi novel, e.g., the Space Merchants.
We need to stop this shit.
Thanks. If I keep working on this I might give him a ring. I’m sure that very serious people have it all under control. As I said in my post yesterday, it’s not my job to look after the health of some kid or pregnant woman eating a lot of gulf seafood.
It’s not like I can travel in time and prove that X people got cancer because of what they ate. The causal relationship will be too far away. And that is what the FDA and the BP seafood booster are counting on.
For example what if I traveled back in time 9 years from today. And told the people at ground zero. The EPA is lying to you. You need to wear respirators.
They would say. “I trust the EPA, prove to me that they are wrong.” and they would say, “I’m looking for my brother, I can’t be bothered to wait around and get a respirator. If we don’t open up the area around ground zero to business the terrorist win.”
Kicking ass on administration public policy being used as an instrument to deflect whatever BS position their opponents are floating this hour.
Against fighting PR spin with wretched public policy. Same old Ian.
…People who think otherwise are encouraged to provide examples…
And are quickly eviscerated… It can be gruesome at times…! ;-)
When I found out (with a 90 percent certainty) who the chicken processor was I decided not to print it. I just got over a fight with Disney. I didn’t want to take on Big Chicken too. Look what happened when Oprah attacked the Beef industry.
What having a day job has affected, as far as I can tell, is how much he blogs. I don’t see the content being any different.
Agreed, but on the basis of reading very few articles.
It was through Ian’s articles that I saw the collapse coming. He said it would be huge, and I took his word for it (but am still stunned at how big it was), and he turned out to be correct. Also, through him, I came to know of Dr. Doom, Dean Baker, Jamie Galbraith, etc., the economists who predicted what was going to happen.
If only he had been a Jim Cramer type and told me what to buy and sell.
“How to profit from the coming crash!” The 2006 book from Ian Welsh! Now in paperback.
Thanks. I posted a link to this update on the situation in a diary here a couple of weeks ago, BTW. Executive summary is that I don’t see that things have gotten any better for Democrats since April.
I hear you.
There are a lot of tenured professors at big-name universities who are members of the National Academies. They have some clout.
There are big name activists, like Frances Lappe Moore, who might be of some help.
There are activists (like Freddie) working within the system. They have more subtle clout.
There may be whistle blowers working various places. They should contact wikileaks.
Good luck and thanks for your efforts.
However, that 10 point gap has since evaporated…! ;-)
There’s still hope in dope…! ;-)
I used to think Al Gore leaving a door open for Bush to be within striking range was the best example of lack of political wherewithal I could think of.
Then Harry Reid got matched up with Sharron Angle, and I thought, “He is the luckiest politician in our lifetime.”
I may have been wrong on both counts.
I shall bid ya’ll a fond adieu for the evening…! Aloha Oe…! ;-)
I used to think Al Gore leaving a door open for Bush to be within striking range was the best example of lack of political wherewithal I could think of.
I may have been wrong [...]
I may have been wrong [...]
How so? Are you suggesting that Gore might have thrown the election in the first place? Hmmmmm.
Yes, except that it’s closer to the numbers preceding it than the most recent poll, and by a lot. As I wrote about that poll, I’ll be a lot more inclined to believe that number if the next one is similar.
I know the people who used to work for the raisin board. They put together a campaign to discredit the guy who wrote a book on the dangers of pesticides on raisins.
They White House, the FDA, the seafood industry have decided that the best way to deal with BP oil spill is to show lots of people eating Gulf Seafood and get celebrity chefs talking it up.
Who is on the side of the people in this scenario? Who’s looking out for out health?
To tell you the truth, I haven’t worked up the enthusiasm to look at that race recently. Last time I looked, which must be a month ago, it looked like Reid was safely ahead. Is that not true now?
I’m saying that Gore had the waiting support of a President who, on the day he was impeached had a 69% approval rating, and thought he’d do better without him, leaving a massive hole in his plank.
Until Harry Reid played hide and seek with his Senate seat and left a nitwit like Angle an opening, Gore was the shining example of overconfidence gone awry.
Here are some numbers. Not the best, but not out of the ballpark.
She is within striking distance.
Further, I think Nevada wakes up on the 2nd and says to themselves, “Angle? What were we thinking?”. But the door is open.
I’m going to go to sleep and dream of electric shrimp.
(Two nights ago I dreamt that I was hanging out with Winona Ryder. She had fallen on hard times and I offered to fix the battery on her old Beetle. She was living on a houseboat with a bunch of hippy types. Somehow I knew we were old friends and that she wanted to talk to someone outside the business.) I don’t know what it meant, but it was exciting to know that in my dreams I’m friends with celebrities!
I don’t see any difference in his writing now. I read him frequently and share what he writes on FB, and get ripped for it from some people who are enthralled with the President.
Like this one.
Hard to tell what’s going on there. No polling org is doing polls periodically.
…on the day he was impeached had a 69% approval rating…
Everybody knew it was a witch hunt, sadly, when real ‘High Crimes’ are committed, deafening silence is heard all around…! 8-(
Goodnight, Spocko. I had that dream, too, except it was Jane Seymour. Somehow, yours strikes me as more realistic.
Agreed. And as I said, I think Nevada will shape up a little by November.
But I think Reid is a waste of oxygen and downright cowardly, and Angle is still a no-brainer. By a very large margin. Unthinkable. And not trailing by nearly enough .
That was a good article. Combine it with this article by Charles Hughs, and FDL commenter Hugh’s list, and you have quite a case for how badly the Democrats have done the last two years.
Interesting. What I remember thinking was how Winona knew I was safely married and didn’t have to worry about me coming on to her. I’m faithful even in my dreams!
I dunno. To me, either way it looks like a train wreck. We either get Reid still in charge of the Senate, or Crazy Bigot Church Lady. That’s why I hadn’t bothered to look.
Speaking of dreams, it’s time for me to go have some. Hopefully, they’ll involve something more pleasant than politics.
When I think about Senators nowadays, I’m not thinking about legislation (I mean, what’s the point?). I am just thinking about judges now.
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