She also makes the most relevant statement I’ve seen on the issue, from the point of personal experience:
…here is what’s been lost in this Park51 controversy: We are not experts, we are victims. We deserve to speak up, we need to speak up to acknowledge the pain and suffering, but we were never meant to be leaders in a national debate.
Torres discusses how as a 9/11 victim she belongs to a list-serv maintained for some 5,000 survivors. Back in May 2010, this is how those 5,000 were approached by a reporter on the Park51 project, which started this whole business:
“I’m doing story today about the proposed mosque project at the WTC site. I am interviewing the developers but I am also trying to look for family members who think building a mosque at the site is a bad idea.”
So fair, so balanced, so to be ignored by a Howard Kurtz.




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Never send to know at whom the harpy shrieks; she shrieks at thee.
The only people who think the media is liberal are people with their panties in a wad about liberals.
Surviving Jeb Bush
And apparently without any sense of irony at all, Salon’s very next story down is:
It is sickening to see Americans adopting mentalities more akin to the illogic of Nazis or the KKK. The mentality is a virus, a virus predicated on the emotional ignorance of human beings, manipulated by human beings.
The modern day “American Brownshirt,” is alive and well in the United States. A virus which must be eradicated as Americans fought and killed sick absolutist called Nazis. Yup a down economy, no cash, no money, no jobs so lets scapegoat Islam as the Nazis scapegoated Jews? History does repeat. All it takes is “Silence!” No Silent American here!
Americans wearing soiled “T” shirts are cowards and suck!
Good morning, pups. It’s Collins and Kristof today, continuing on the same theme. In “The 5 Percent Doctrine” Ms. Collins says that as Sept. 11 approaches, the displays of intolerance just keep getting more and more outrageous. Mr. Kristof, in “The Healers of 9/11,” says a woman who lost her husband in the 9/11 attacks shows the right way to fight back, by working with other widows to tackle poverty and illiteracy in Afghanistan.
Here they are.
The coffee and tea are ready, the cold drinks are in the fridge, and I’ve got toasted Thomas English muffins with your favorite jam. I think I’m going to spend Saturday at home, and not turn on the TV or the radio. Too much craziness makes me break out in hives. Have a great day.
Good morning. Personal story: I live in a small town where serious school violence is rare. A few years back there was a major fight (or something) at a school in the area. The local tv station sent reporters to the mall to interview teens on whether or not they were afraid at school. My niece was interviewed, she said she was absolutely not afraid and felt perfectly safe when she was at school. Her interview never aired. All we saw was a few who were afraid. I wonder how long it took the reporters to find them.
you know how many people who don’t believe the community center should be built are amazed to find out it’s not at that 9/11 site?
they are so incredulous they do not believe me
speaking about “the liberal media” there is a comic strip in the local newspaper (newsday) called “malard”
I have not ever seen such vitriole in a newspaper comic ever, this is so anti obama, so far to the right that it would make fox blush
I would cancel the paper with a strong letter but it’s my dad’s subscription
No, that’s reserved for Coalition Provisional Authority corruptocrat Dan Senor
and wingnut vloger Pam Geller.
I searched Mallard to have a look at one of the comics. Honestly perris, the first one I looked at expresses something many people here believe, me included.
http://www.seattlepi.com/fun/comic.asp?feature_id=Mallard_Fillmore
57 hours ’till the Illudium Q-36 detonator goes off. They dug it up and reanimated it, they inserted the fuse, they put it in his hand, and they gave him a complimentary RNC Zippo. They are going to Eat It All.
Good morning all.
Who is the reporter in question?
“Mallard Fillmore” is an even less funny (intentionally, anyway) of “Shoe”. Its creator is a drunken asshole named Edward Bruce Tinsley who mocks Ted Kennedy over Chappaquiddick even though he himself has two DUIs:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/chris-kelly/mallard-fillmore-makes-me_b_38124.html
I keep looking for some condemnation in the MSM of the bigoted and racist comments last week about Muslimsin by The New Republic’s Marty Peretz. They are keeping a lid on them as best they can.
I think it is wrong to call the media liberal. Yes, I know you are being ironic or something. Please call it what it is The republican owned media.
I’ve had similar experiences. Family members got incendiary about it, but when I pointed out where it was located, they sort of spluttered a bit and then changed the subject. There is a tremendous amount of brainwashing going on.
Most conservatives only watch rightwing media (which is most of it); only access rightwing blogs; and consider the NYT “liberal” (ha ha ha). The tiny little bit that I see of Fox (usually in clips on KO or RM) continue to leave me open-mouthed in astonishment at just how untruthful they are. Fox exists now simply as a Pravda-style propoganda machine, manufacturing some sort of alternate “reality” that generally has no bearing on what’s actually happening at any given time.
And yes, the main goal is to make everyone very very afraid, and very very angry. Angry, fearful people are much easier to manipulate.
I, too, live in a small community, two hours driving time from big city TV. When our school sent invitations to the TV stations to come watch us do something for the community, help clean up a stream for salmon to return, no one showed up….too far away. A week later someone threw a rock at a school bus window, rumors flew it was a gunshot…you should have seen the satellite dishes. It probably didn’t take them two hours to get here either. So if it is good news or positive events, never mind. Bad news, they’re on their way!
I had a FOXN reporter begging me one day over the phone to come to my house THAT DAY with a full camera crew. I had spoken at a school board meeting on gifted children’s reading issues and it got into the paper. Slow news day.
Here is the clip. I found it here, about 2/3 rds down the page.
http://www.kimberlyswygert.com/archives/2003_06.html
I didn’t know what to do so I got the reporter’s phone number with a promise to call her back with an answer after I called my friend (who might also be willing to be interviewed).
I called my girl friend who had asked me to go to that meeting in the first place and asked her for her advice. She didn’t think it was a good idea at all so I went with that. She is one of the few people I know whom I think is actually smarter than I am, so I figured I’d just take her very good advice without too much thinking about it.
It really impressed me that a reporter was so set on interviewing me AT MY HOME. She didn’t know what I looked like, anything about me or anything about my house keeping skills (not much) yet she was practically begging me, real strong arm like “the truck is in your neighborhood.” All she knew was I was ‘gifted’ and that was more than enough for her.
It was an interesting conversation, I remember her making some negative remarks about potheads in her superior So Cal way. ‘Valley girls’ is what we used to call them back in my day. So here she is, being superior to me about potheads, while she is begging me to come to my house!
Little did she know I was dressed head to toe in tie dye Hippie clothes, and high as a kite on marijuana. I have to admit, her attitude annoyed me, but boy oh boy did her begging get me wondering, what is up about FAUX NOISE?
And the rest, as they say, is history. Or it would be if any reporters covered it. My husband was a reporter when we married so I had an insiders view of them, how cleverly they work to avoid a story. I even took a journalism class last year, to get to know them better. I think our media are pretty much in the control of the CIA.
I still have her number. I called her later when I took a class at the Oaksterdam University. They covered it and I once again avoided a live interview. By then I KNEW what happened to those live interviews in FOX news rooms. I don’t think FOX will ever catch me.
Actually FOX does have my image on their files. They have me on record at the county saying marijuana prohibition is racist. I said the county supervisors voting for it are all racist. I knew they would never put that on the air.
Corporate owned media.