Mr. D. Day (his real name) has already discussed this, but further comment is necessary, if only to reinforce beyond any doubt that overwhelming evidence supports the hypothesis that there exists in the known universe no more utterly degrading, humiliating, and revolting spectacle than the Washington Post‘s Dana Milbank attempting to tell a joke.
Dana Milbank believes he is witty. Dana Milbank believes he is fun. Dana Milbank is a smug halfwit cretin in whom a lack of elementary ethical principle, or indeed simple human feeling, is grotesquely coupled with an appalling absence of anything remotely resembling a critical intelligence. In a just world his scribblings would cause him to be flung headfirst into a sewage pit and savagely pelted with darts, mice, and garbage, or else he would merely be forced to read a choice selection of his own fucking asshole columns with a sense of motherfucking perspective about what “good writing” actually constitutes.
Oh let’s just get on with it.
Mr. Day explains why Milbank’s wrong on the substance, and you can see also Mr. Greenwald.
But whatever. Milbank’s headline.
America has a cow over Alan Simpson’s candor on deficits
This is a clever play on words, in the sense that if you think this is a clever play on words you very likely enjoy a nice drink of bleach every so often. See, Alan Simpson recently decided to tell anyone scheduled to receive Social Security benefits that they were a disgusting freeloader using very witty language. Here is what he said:
And yes, I’ve made some plenty smart cracks about people on Social Security who milk it to the last degree. You know ‘em too. It’s the same with any system in America. We’ve reached a point now where it’s like a milk cow with 310 million tits! Call when you get honest work!
He was, for the record, writing in a direct response to a specific person. So when he says, “call when you get honest work,” he is being a dick on purpose, to be a dick. Let’s remember that!
Dana Milbank, see, won’t remember that. He will remember that somebody said “tit,” and his inner Beavis will contend with his inner Butthead, and he will have produced a column. This is the first sentence of his column, and my reply to it.
There was a time, not too long ago, when a politician could talk about tits in public.
Fuck you.
Moving on:
Simpson reprised the line two weeks ago, updating it only for the population count. In an e-mail to the head of a Social Security advocacy group, he said that, in America, “We’ve reached a point now where it’s like a milk cow with 310 million tits!” This time, it was an udder debacle.
Oh die. Die die die.
As for why the line is obnoxious, it was a public official sneering at a citizen who gave him guff by disagreeing with him. Milbank explicitly says Simpson should not have apologized. Dick.
And he thinks “udder debacle” is forgivable.



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Good evening Thers! Outstanding tags sir.
saTHERSday nite live!
Sorry, Thers, there’s a heated food fight going on downstairs – it may be a little while till we can let go and come upstairs.
THERSaturday Night Fever!
SaTHERSday Night Fever!
In a just world Milbank would be forced to cohabitate with Megan McArdle under a bridge, raiding dumpsters for moldy food and begging spare change on street corners.
Guinness is mother’s milk. I’d much rather enjoy a Guinness with friends and talk about whatever than dedicate a moment toward thinking about Dana Milbank, WaPo’s center-left columnist BWAAA HAAAA, center-left. God help us all.
Epic.
Epic.
i hope dana got more something more just than a sore jaw from the fluffing he gave simpson in his column.
I aims to please
In fairness, he is what is left when you move the center to the right of Dr. Mengele.
Would he be…I can almost not bear to type the words…doing the horizontal hokey-pokey with McMegan?
Thers! It thought tit was on the forbidden list. Oh, that’s why you said it. If it weren’t so damned hot here I might have the energy to engage in something more than Yeah. Fuck Dana. But, it is and I don’t.
Hi Hi to all the Saturday night pups. Dripping here.
crap, i don’t think there is enought brain bleach in the world to erase that mental image… yuck yuck yuck
No tits!
Tell us how you really feel about Dana Twit Milbank, thers!
Its the arms makers who are sucking us tax payers dry as they keep the endless wars going. Its the drug makers and the insurance companies who charge us more than the rest of the developed world pays for health insurance that are sucking us dry.
I cannot imagine any actual human being doing that, but then again this is Dana Millbank we are talking about.
Too much going on here — niters.
What Dana and Alan are doing is eating the seed corn. We are a consumer economy cut Social Security you cut consumer spending.
Cut consumer spending you cut jobs. Its that simple.
Milbank to his audience (such as it is):
“No, there is no such thing as fruit that hangs too low.”
Night. Good luck with the chaos.
I gave up and turned the air on a couple of hours ago. It’s on low, so it’s still working its way down from Too Hot Inside, but it’s gotten down to 80 and my brain is functional again.
(Last weekend I cut the surviving clusters of Zin; one is so tight it will have to raisin a bit before I can get it washed; it’s solid grapes on the outside. OTOH, that’s pretty much a sign there’s nothing hiding inside it.)
I was just trying to understand how little pity you had for the “man.”
g’nite thers
Or, git.
Absolutely none.
I could use a Guiness myself. Dana Milkbone is for the dawgs.
That is animal abuse!
Hiya Pups! Dana is awful. Period.
well, well, well, look at that… thers left the bar unlocked and there’s a fresh keg of guiness on tap
I was a bad mommy to my grapes and had to cut them down several weeks ago. Oh, well. I’ve already gotten over that. There’s always something else, isn’t there?
Dude, Thers — Milbank is unworthy of your snark, or your cussedness.
Remember, this is a guy who thought it was funny to suggest — on video — that if there was a Beer Summit with Hillary Clinton, President Obama should serve Mad Bitch Brew. And that it would be really funny to put that video up at the WaPo website.
Really.
Dana Milbank is a glib, smug schmuck mit ohren.
Whew! Is the atmosphere lighter up here? Is it safe to come out and just relax?
I’m all for laughing at Milbank, but mostly I find this kind of crap depressing, because it demonstrates how thoroughly the “opinion makers” have drunk the koolaid about SS being the “cause” of the deficit.
I’m finding a lot of stuff depressing. I’m a news junkie who can barely stand to keep up with the news, let alone the opinions.
Maybe I’m just depressed?
I’ll join the Guinness club. In fact, pints of Guinness all around!
If you aren’t depressed, then you are not paying attention.
Surprise for us! Temps and breezes in the low 60′s! Rain, so needed, and cloudy and sunny, but very, very cool. Fall is here this weekend, but not the coming week.
Yeah! Guinness! (draft, no bottled stuff, right?)
Oh, honey, when it’s this hot, everyone’s a mad bitch. Seriously.
But, I know, it’s all an excuse.
Dana runs true to form,just a third rate media whore,nuf said
Pour it!
*glug*
agreed,well said
milbank wishes he had thers’ ability to snark.
Yeah, I’m afraid you’re right. So, being depressed is no longer a diagnosis of mental illness, it’s a diagnosis of sanity, right? Right?
(Pssst, pass the Guinness! Mood-lifter!)
Currently 68 and headed to the upper 40s with a high of 60 tomorrow and a 50% chance of rain. Mother nature seems to have canceled summer here.
It’s a game. Autumn is. Gotcha! Long pants. Short pants. Sweats. Nekkid. Ha!
Milbank’s rimshot-crimes mask a larger point (a feature to be sure), that the aims of the Catfood Commission™ are worthy, and we should not be dissuaded from that by the foot-in-mouth penchant by one of it’s Chairs.
can ya draw your own pint and one for anyone who wants one please dood — i always fuck up the foam
So true. Can you imagine, I once found Milbank fairly funny. But it was years ago, maybe because the stakes weren’t as high yet?
Well, well, just toss a pint down here, will ya?
It’s the chill in the system baby – I’m a-pouring!
*got two pints sliding down so far…*
I love, love fall!
Ask Milbank … after he’s done giving Head to Simpson …
Evenin’ Folks !
Taps, pull, and pull again…
the only time i found milbank funny was when he went on ko wearing orange right after dick cheney shot an old guy in the face.
Oh, Mme – je fais la bier! Moment!
Upper 40′s! Wow! That’s a bit sudden, isn’t it? Here I was thrilled at last night’s forecast of 66 overnight low!
It only reached the low 80′s on my shaded patio today – lovely sunny day after a real rain, so I’m sure it was higher out from under the roof. But it felt like fall – Texas fall, that is. Could walk to the end of the block in mid-afternoon without breaking a sweat. (sorry, demi. I forget, where are you?)
Y’know, I believe that might’ve been the moment!
Yeah, well the leaves turn colors there. Mostly what we have are evergreens and it just gets chilly. I love summers and spring here, but mostly because it is not usually very hot (mostly 70s & 80s) and sunny all the time in the summer (though not this year).
Richard Eskow has a great op-ed at Huffington Post: Labor Day Irony: The People Who Want To Cut Social Security All Have Great Retirement Plans. Some Excerpts:
Events of the last week have made the Deficit Commission an embarrassment. Co-Chair Alan Simpson is a one-man disaster movie, compulsively offending one key voting bloc after another. Commission member Paul Ryan faced an angry crowd over his anti-Social Security stance, while another Commissioner locked experienced workers out of a nuclear facility rather than provide retirement benefits.
That’s right: He’s cutting retirement benefits.
But if the political blowback is obvious, here’s what isn’t: The Commissioners who are determined to cut your Social Security benefits are going to enjoy their own retirements in comfort. Their own pension plans insulate them from the fears that many other Americans face, and they don’t have the professional expertise that would help them understand those concerns. In fact, the Commission’s only expert on retirement is Rep. Jan Schakowsky, and she apparently opposes benefit cuts. The rest of the Commission is dominated by people who’ve expressed their desire to cut Social Security, despite their own secure futures. Millions of working Americans who have contributed to Social Security all their lives will lose out if these Commissioners have their way.
The Commission’s Social Security obsession is odd anyway, since the projected Social Security shortfall comes out to only 0.7% of GDP. Nevertheless, these Commissioners have made their benefit-cutting intentions plain, presumably because they want to offer up America’s seniors as a sacrifice to the bond markets. So how will these would-be income-slashers for the elderly make out in their own golden years? They’ll be golden
PETROVANOVINSKY!
Not really. We normally cool off into the upper 50s in the summer, even on those rare occasions when it gets to 90. It’s an altitude thing.
Sante!
now that was funny!
Teddy, once in a while it is OK to go for the low hanging fruit.
Sadlyyesidoloveguinnessstew !
Eh, bien, naturlement!
You don’t know Dutch by the way, do you?
Well, I’m glad the word is finally getting out more broadly. I don’t think any of that (except maybe the lockout story – who was that, I wonder?) is news to FDL regulars.
But most people aren’t aware of any of it, and haven’t been paying attention.
he has been trying to top himself ever since — with dismal results
lol
HOWABOUTGUINESSCAKEALAMODE?
Hiya tej … had fun playing with your friend downstairs ? *g*
Not at all my friend, though I can read a bit.
Was that before that stupid puppet (was it puppets?) theater with Chris Cilizza? Talk about a disaster!
needs new meds i presume,or maybe a muse like Woody Allen……..g
Milbank is persona non grata on Olbermann’s show.
If you can’t hang there, you are pretty fucking sorry.
And I am a KO fan.
yup it was before
what thread?
Jeebus Kelly, how many languages do you know ?
Ah, you were lurking, were ya? Or did I just miss you behind the red-hot haze over my vision?
It’s a rellief to come up here.
I’m afraid that had that been in person I might have slapped a certain “friend.” Grrrrrr. But I’m grown up now.
This Thread
Just was curious.
I think more and more of emigrating to the Netherlands. I’ve never really admitted that out loud before. But I really am.
Why do we have to care what goes on at the Washington Post? They fired a bunch of writers. Now there’s something to get pissed about. The Washington Times is good for cat litter. The Post, fresh fish from the Eastern Market.
Nope, I just went and looked after you mentioned it on this thread … he’s a waste of Oxygen !
All of them, I think.
Why would you ? They’re closing those “specialty” cafes …
Any particular reason you’d choose the Netherlands? Just general civilizedness? Relatives? Enlightened drug laws? ;)
LOL !!!
Toronto got chilly from last night, but we’re getting back to summer temps tomorrow. The folks in OILberta have been running their Furnaces all week.
Please, take me! I want to live in Europe so much. I love the lifestyle of the Dutch.
oh Kelly .. that’s where i fantasize about enjoying things pre-dying and then dying ..
A couple I know here are moving to Sweden. She is Swedish and her(their?) son has moved back there and married a Swedish girl. The husband just retired from the history department and has a defined benefit pension, so they are set. They already sold their house here.
Know? In descending order of live spoken languages:
English
German
Spanish
French
Italian
After that it’s only “Hello! Where’s the bathroom?” “What beers do you have?” “The hotel costs HOW MUCH?” “TAXI!” “That’s a gay bar, right?” “Did you overcharge me?”
And that applies to the rest of the EEU members, including Latvia, Estonia, the Czech Republic and Slovakia. :)
Hey, it pays.
I have this fatal flaw – I keep thinking the right argument that cannot be refuted will persuade the opponent…. Works with judges, mostly….
I know better, really, from watching the RW (well, all mainstream politics, really), and so I don’t usually engage live. But sometimes I just can’t help myself…
If anything, the acceptance of culture that is non-traditional in the US.
oh my
heres your Guiness
http://tiny.cc/00ztt
Old gay people are welcome there, and they have an actual mechanism for absorbing us.
Not really “old”yet, but it won’t be long. And I see what it’s like here. Fuck that.
So is Canada, and we’re in a friendlier time zone … *g*
I’ve never had any Guiness…
well walk up to kelly and ask him to pull ya a pint then….
Mmmmm … is there no problem that Chocolate cannot solve ?!!
Grazie !
I see. For me, I think it would be the South of France.
In a pure fantasy plan, of course. No way would I ever be able to afford it; can’t even afford a visit. But (and it’s pre-Peter Mayles, but maybe post “To Catch a Thief” and other 50′s movies), it’s the weather, the landscape, the food, the wine, the food, the food…
Italy would do for similar reasons…coastal, of course. As long as I’m just fantasizing.
I’ve toyed with Mexico in my imagination a little – much cheaper, and I do actually speak the language and know the culture. But it’s looking less attractive these days, que lastima.
You see whole families on a single bike. Or a couple out on a date with the impossibly leggy blond on the back, sideways.
Dutch are farkin tall, generally. Made me feel Japanese.
A pernt slidin down Margot way…
chug it, sister!
try this
http://tiny.cc/00ztt
PetroMaximus!
no!
{{{ Loo Hoo }}}
Kelly we really must get married – i am absolutely the language geek you are
No! Emphatically, no!
Come to think of it, I bellieve I have some dark chocolate in the fridge (in our recent temps, doesn’t pay to leave it out).
Excusez-moi, regreso en un momento…..
Me: English, French for art history, and some conversation after a year living there (oh, and medical emergencies)
MrCE totally fluent in French
no German
no Italian
high school Spanish
found out that Catalan is very close to a mix of French and Spanish — hey, we can read this!
France for me,love Italy the best,but no more natural disasters pour moi
happy 100 tejan!!!
I want to move to Canada, too. But, it looks like we are stuck here in Cleveland.
Thank you Kelly…It’s cool here and I can’t wait for Oktoberfest!
Hey, don’t forget me! Which are your languages, Sharkbabe? Mine are Spanish, Russian, readiing French, and laboriously-reading Portuguese.
saTHERSday nite!
milkbank is a milkdud. Let’s moooove along friends, he’s udderly over, as appealing as fresh cow patties on a hot day.
and GAH! Teja, i was seeing red, that forking idjit in pw’s thread! I give you credit for trying, but sweet baby jeebus on a pogo stick! What an asshole.
Heh. Speaking of chocolate… this is sitting on the kitchen counter cooling, waiting for its two frostings.
OMG! Didn’t even notice, Suze! Is there a prize?????
Smoochame, mi chica, pero mi esposo esta un poco de Oso.
I actually told him yesterday; learn Dutch or else. I’m going. You don’t have to, but I am.
drool. drool again. drool some more.
{{{ NDFG }}}
All that, and the dog on a leash!
ill be right over!
braggin rights
Ndfg! Greetiings, girl! How are ya? Thanks for the credit; I should’ve known better, I suppose. Oh, well. My own red haze faded after I settled in up here and Kelly started serving up the Guinness.
Yum! Thanks sadly
Time for me to toddle off. Going fishing in the morning if it doesn’t rain. Take care all.
I know!
{{{ PETRO! }}} ya know, i am seriously starting to consider begging my children to emigrate to canada. Do they accept old farts like me as immigrants?
Think other parts of France. We love Alsace, Brittany, Normandy. They are much more livable than the south.
g’nite dr (pause) dick
I’ll have the Butter and Frying Pan ready and waiting …
In terms of cost, you mean? Yeah, but aren’t they, um, cold? 25 years in Texas; I’m spoiled now.
Sure, everyone’s welcome.
No doubt. I’m particularly fond of the Alsace.
Doesn’t Canada require immigrants to have a skill in demand? Doubt that you need any more unemployed lawyers. Sigh.
wash it down with this
http://tiny.cc/6ebk8
Gascony
yah,nite dic doc
Oh YEAH! But they talk funny there.
Our absolute fave — Eguisheim. I first fell in love with Alsace with MrCE and his love of Strasbourg. Kelly! Choucroute garnie for fall!!
On my mother’s side I have some French ancestry; all I know, though, is that they were Protestants who left from LaRochelle in the 17th century. After (someone will correct me if I’m worng, too lazy to research) the Revocation of the Edict of Nantes, which pretty much made it illegal to be protestants in France again. But I don’t think that tells much about where they were from; LaRochelle was just the usual departure point in those circumstances. Would be interesting to know more.
On edit: not sure what triggered these musings….
Here’s a perfectly good reason to go to the Netherlands.
exactly! One has to make the subject of one’s snark the center of attention, Millbank cannot do that because he must be the center of attention.
who cares…….g
i wont listen,its teh peaceful
Priceless.
Chocolate and Guinness—an unbeatable combination!
me too! on my mom’s side there’s a trace of French huguenot but i don’t know what part of France they were run out of. And there’s a trace of Irish who were run outta Ireland for being Protestant, they fled to Scotland before heading for the colonies.
Gosford Park – hello all!
It’s peculiar.
There’s this craziness of watching the Dutch vs French speakers in Belgium; who drops their vowels, and so forth, and uses whatever local lingo for literally WHATEVER.
Yet on the other hand, the Slav lingo is picking up across the Czech border to Germany. “Bier” is increasingly referred to as “pivo” for handcrafted/preferred blends.
I think that’s cool.
I bet it’s good, but it won’t come up on my computer.
In Belgium, the French speakers vs the Flemish is a war a century long…
Hey! Who put their Guinness in my chocolate?
i feel driven to find a haven,not obssessed with war,and reality tv,oh and food that is not continually tainted
chocolate martuni
Yep – “Horse Eaters” is still quite the epithet amongst the French speakers.
Have another pint, you won’t care anymore.
Now Czech beer is something yummy…not like the bacon-y Guinness.
I can think of a few reasons.
They’ve withdrawn from Afghanistan. The dispute over the war caused their parlimentary government to fail ans they’re currently putting together a new majority.
They have single payer with excellent benefits. Everyone – man, woman, girl, boy, young, old = pays the same health insurance premium. There may be some family discount I don;t know. Now THATS socialism and I think the people there generally like the care.
More than 3/4 of the land mass of the Netherlands would be underwater if their levy system failed. They know what it means to be able to trust their government and engineers to make it work.
Public transportation is excellent. Trains run on time and are affordable.
The people are interesting and interested in how others live, well educated and happy. Dutch children are the happiest children in the world.
They have excellent agriculture and excellent trade including the second biggest port in the world.
They were the fist country to build a middle class that grew out of their trade economy, and the first country to invent leisure time activities like bowling and billiards.
At least some of the above is true. If not, let me know.
maybe I grated it in when I wasn’t looking..
I did—-
http://nookandpantry.blogspot.com/2009/02/guinness-chocolate-cupcake-with-baileys.html
my Dutch friends are wonderful peeeps
Yup, that describes a good chunk of my ancestry, too. My mom’s other half is Dutch, that is Pennsylvania Dutch. Which of course, is not Dutch, at all. But (aside to all the anti-immigrant nuts who bitch that Mexicans don’t leanr English – which is false, anyway), my own grandmother, born around 1885, grew up speaking “Dutch” and English. By that time, it really wasn’t German anymore. Hers was the last generation in their part of Pennsylvania to speak it.
That looks tasty.
I’ll try it, sounds good
Uh-oh..reality tv? I think the Dutch may have started it all with the original “Big Brother.”
Oh, well, everyone has their flaws.
They are good and good for you.
BTW, looks like our pal downstairs took a powder. Thank goodness.
going Morpheus…gnite friends
yeah, mostly i’m scandahoovian, and one of my greatgrandmothers never did learn english, she spoke swedish til the day she died. So her kids had to translate for her all the time.
Editors are usually responsible for headlines
I think what you wrote is pretty much true.
They also have a program of Dutch Sensitization, which one must complete to understand what it is to emigrate there. One has to agree to gay rights, end of life issues, tolerance in general, and in society as a whole.
It’s quite something.
No doubt, defeated by the force of our logic./s
nite sadly
g’nite sadly
OT for this thread, but I just finished reading the PenisGraffitiAssault comments and want to thank you for what you wrote.
oooo! if he’s passed out, i wanna write nasty demeaning things all over him! It’s ok because everyone’s doing it!/s
Unquestionably.
and ndfg: Thanks, and ROTFL!/s
I think I’ve read about that. I wouldn’t mind something along the same general lines for citizenship here. I didn’t expect, though, that it would be the native-born and entitled-feeling population that would need the education in American values (e.g., tolerance, separation of church and state) more than the immigrants.
I don’t advocate that for here in America. It’s too conformist for here. God knows, yuo gotta have KS and MO approve everything.
Um, maybe I’m just sleepy (heading off in a minute) but KS and MO? Should prolly recognize those, but don’t.
Kansas and Missouri.
Oh, that was just way too obvious, I guess.
No, I agree, we can’t seem to agree/approve anything anymore. But it would sure be nice if our own homegrowns understood their own history, at least.
But that’s the start of a rant on another subject.
I’m fading out; time for bed.
Thanks for a lovely Guinness and chocolate-fueled evening. Hope everyone gets their heart’s desire. Night!
I looked at the letters, trying to figure out which TV personalities they were! Then I saw them as states.
Yes! Me, too. Or what internet memes or OMG type abbreviations. States? Duh! And now, good night for realz.
g’nite tejan
Yeah Little Debbie (RIP) made a big deal about Dana in the orange vest, mocking Darth, and then there was another kerfuffle that got Dana banned from Countdown. At about the same time, though, Dana got his CNN gig.
Of course, Markos is banned from MSNBC because of Joe Scarborough’s pique, so it’s a little funny there.
If I were MorningJoke, I would be scared of everyone NOT in my club.
I didn’t know about that but it makes sense, especially since they want immigrants to embrace “the Dutch way”.
Back in the day WWII German refugees who moved to the Netherlands were assigned a medical doctor, a dutch family to have dinner with once a week, and a job.
Since Filmmaker Van Gogh was brutally stabbed to death on the streets of Amsterdam by a radicalized young Muslim man, they’ve taken seriously the need to integrate immigrants into Dutch life. Some of the immigrant neighborhoods were quite isolated.
You’ve got to see these video of Morning Joke. Tell me if you think its good satire:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVvt7l_SyEk
Ever since MSNBC threw him off their network for being an a**hole and not checking his FACTS, he has gone down the tubes as a commentator.. He is NO LONGER a journalist..
Milbank now appears to be a roaming hack. He’s available to put together some words for you if you pay him…guide his perspective… and put the closing words of the article in front of him so he can write that in the article… then he immediately forgets what he wrote and moves on… That seems to make him an automaton..
AND A DOUCHE !!!
since we’re talking about pod people here,I would have suggested “ball”. a tit nourishes. a ball spreads the DNA
For too may times in the past decade commission sponsors ended the years on a winning note starting with glass-steagall act repeal till crisis drama resulting in bailouts. Health care reform showed us some part of our MSM is paid with editors soliciting funds to write in favor or against any issue. So Mr. Milbank might be just part of this group by supporting an individual who says people who saved 12.5% of their paycheck their whole working lives in super-safe investment in the world i.e. our treasury bonds as people *** cow. I do not want to get into gutter by repeating here the whole statement. So we can now see how one can become chair of any commission in the washington. Show willingness and do any illogical & immoral act but do it by saying stuff much worse than anyone can imagine or conceive and one gets the position of the chair.
Anyway we all have wisened upto these bait and switch stuff and I can already see lot of congress and senate members getting to do what is best for the country and what they are good at i.e. gridlock instead of passing bills labelled reforms and start of as reforms which become deformed by the conference committee due to lobbyist influence and become scams when signed into law due to lobbyist influence. So I am confident as most of them that they will not win on this social security gutting scheme due to efforts of folks like Jane et. al. and lot of bloggers who already alerted congress people on how they are getting duped to make their and their childrens life insecure.
There is no crisis with social security and as long as Social Security is present there will be no Depression in the economy. Period. Even if Dow index crashes to zero because of social security 30% to 40% of our economy will be humming and because of that Dow Index will never crash to zero. Social Security makes our Economy Depression Proof irrespective of any type of action by Wall Street.