A memorial for BB…

Hey, Suzanne, how’s it in the beautiful zone?

hey that guy — i’m so sorry dood (((that guy and bb)))

hey dearie — how ya doing tonight?

Good, good. Not minding the fog in south California. Could stand some sunshine now and then, though.

Dammit.
RIP BB, Lucille is going to be lonely.

BTW, whaddya mean no spit balls?

Paper clips and rubber bands at the ready!!

sounding like oregon :) the marine layer came in today and looks like its gonna be here all weekend

I got three free packs of smokes today, and they’re supposed to be all organic with no additives. I’m not sure how I feel about that.

hey busted — how ya doing tonight babe? *smooch*

Here’s another Mr. Bassman

hey hannibal — how did that happen?

busted, the bb in question is a beloved pet…

Smooch back at ya honey. I am at Nasty Girls for the weekend and am currently dealing with a drunk assed neighbor lady and about a gazillion freakin’ kids running through here. There could be some beatings handed out here shortly.

OMG, hadn’t heard about BB. What a great musician. I got to see him once in Las Vegas about 30 years ago…so sad.

ooooo that’s smooth dood

*twang!* *ndfg, who didn’t master rubber-band twanging until college, snickers as she hits the back of busted’s cap*

g’evening, Suze! g’evening, Pups!

My bad. Condolences, I jumped to conclusions because of all the confusion going on around here at the moment.

RIP BB

hey loohoo — the bb is not bbking — tis a beloved pet

how ya doing tonight?

Not BB KING?

hey ndfg — how ya doing tonight?

not bb king — bb the beloved orange cat

hey margot — how’s ohio tonight?

Quietly dips NDFG’s pig tails in ink well.

Snicker.

So sorry, That Guy. What a wonderful tribute to BB.

give ng a pinch for me dood and tell her i said howdy

She says Hi back.

Hi Dearie long time no see. We are super heavy fogged in almost rain. How’s everyone tonight?

Evening Suz…dear pups…how are you?

Is it true that BB King has passed…had not heard that…and nothing on the tubz validates it?

‘nuther bassman

No, that was me jumping to conclusions while being distracted. As far as I know, BB KING IS STILL ALIVE.

Sorry about that.

hey bb — how’s your bay tonight?

I filled out something for 2 free packs awhile back, got the things today, went to the store, ended up getting three instead of two. They’re those American Spirit cigs.

hey ed — tis a beloved pet cat not bb king

how’s joisey tonight? you get any of earl?

no additives is a good thing

No prob Busted…I did freak a little when I read it…

Bowzer

Finally had to be mildy rude, not that I can’t be. It sure is nice and quiet around here all of a sudden.

Whew…thanks Suz…
very sorry about the beloved cat
up here in this neck of the woods…overcast skies and a bit of wind…otherwise Earl has walked on by…and happy that it did…
thanks for asking…

And here’s my all time favoritest Mr Bassman.

yet another

hehehehe didja give them the LQQK

OK, now I am starting to get my niece’s jokes. I thought she was saying “Mr. Spaceman” all these years.

Suz!

Thick wet cold fog no wind town is quite. Did a little weight training tonight no aerobic a gentle hatha yoga for some healing muscles. Life is improving steadily albeit slowly which is just fine with me. Meanwhile big money is screwing up life for many millions and that is a shame.

Your tribute to BB, your lovely orange cat, is so nice. Thanks for sharing.

I actually used to sing that song with mee buds back in school..all a cappella..we were horrible, but that didn’t deter us…

hey newton — how ya doing?

One step beyond. Gotta go folks, there is an Iron Maiden concert on the boob tube.
Have a nice evening. Double plus good, I get to snuggle a bit. I love snuggling.

Bye.

g’snuggle dood

When confusion starts to get the upper hand, you get to be as abrupt/rude/short as you like. In any case, I thought your comment was polite, and helpful in keeping the thread from turning into a false obit.

So sorry to here this. I know how you feel, as my 21 year old cat passed away in January.

manring

hey sb — how’s santa barbara tonight?

Jaco

mm bass

hey dr dick — how’s montana tonight?

ok here
glad it’s friday

Fine here. News about Little Momma?

I hang out….just don’t comment much. Is your fogged-in as unusual as mine is? We used to get June Gloom, but this summer has been verrry foggy. Luckily I got to spend part of the summer in Italy with family and part on Cape Cod with my sister and her hubby. I got no complaints!

Suzanne…I am totally convinced you are psychic…I go to look up Michael and I come back…you are already there…done that…scary!!!!

Lurvely. I’m sure we’re gonna pay somewhere down the line, with 100° on Christmas or something, but until then I’ll just enjoy.

tgif

Hiram with Stevie

Aw I bet you were just fine, and besides no one was grading!
I love singing in harmony…trying to, anyway.

Where in Italy, Dearie? I go in a couple of weeks…

reggie

Tonight is lovely in the northern Rockies. Cool, but not cold, and supposed to be gorgeous tomorrow. Survived the first week of classes and am looking forward to a long weekend. I think I will go hiking in the morning. I hope to get some fishing in as well, but they are talking rain Sunday and Monday. One of our grad students, who spent the summer in Alaska, brought me some Alaskan wild salmon today and I had some for dinner. Absolutely exquisite. I still have about 4 lbs. in the freezer.

Wow that is neat where in Italy my yoga studio is leaving this weekend for Hotel Borgo San Luigi. Tuscany to much money for me sounds pretty sweet. Yep we have had mostly June Gloom all summer…small tomatoes. Off of the coast weather pretty warm and sunny.

Singing in harmony with others sure is a very good vibe, literally!

oh yummy!!!

A week in Umbria in Colle San Paolo, near Panicale and then a week in the hills out of Savernano, outside of Florence. My twin two-year old grandbabies were baptised in an ancient old church…..and behaved themselves with grace :)

Can’t forget James Jamerson.

slap that bass dood

Yep. She gave me two fillets which I portioned out into 6 oz pieces. Pan seared one with a little mustard cream sauce, some rapinni, and a bulghar pilaf with blueberries and walnuts.

Can’t forget that other guy who was in Led Zeppelin either.

wow dearie.. how forking kewl!!! what a great memory to carry around with ya. i can’t believe they are 2 already

Yum. I love salmon with lemon butter. But to screw up all the healthy, I like it with garlic bread with blue cheese.

bassman

The hills of Florence were filled with happy cyclist and wonderful restuarants to pass away the evenings (I was om a summer study). Florentines were so incredibly cordial you are sure to have most excellent times. Congratulations.

I know! They were such little doods….early and tiny. But they have grown into themselves…..big boys! And so funny. 16 of us went to Italy….a mixed group…..two couples without kids, two families, two grannies, 5 kids (one of whom is autistic and was fabulous!), and a babysitter. I think no one got exactly the vacation they expected….but it was worth it. I’m easy. I loved it!

There are also these guys.

Victor

Very cool. Congratulations on the grandbabies! Boys or girls or a split?

it sounds perfect dearie…

Marcus

jack bruce!

Stanley

The Ox

Identical boys……with their own personalities! They are a hoot!

Jeff!!

Marcus.

tal

Hot Hot Hot

Now I’m smelling chalk dust and bad school cafeteria frito pie. All from listening to that song!

Very cool. We’re going to trade some of our meat chickens for line caught King salmon. My favorite fish.

hey openhope — how ya doing tonight?

standup and electric and shape of my heart

wow what a talent

and definitely use cedar planks for that salmon…hhhhmmmm

Very cool. Twins show what a miracle life is.

she’s such a little thang but dayam she can play

Doing well, thank you. Hope you’re doing well. I know you guys are rocking but I can’t get my sound to work.
Fucking technology.
At least I have The Animals to sooth my soul.

happy 100 loohoo!!!

its my life

Not sure which species of salmon these are. She worked in a salmon processing plant owned by Sealaska Corp all summer.

Gustavo

LooHoo…100 PROOF!! smokin…

esperanza

BB King died? I can’t find any news stories about it.

Alder wood planks are also delicious!

hey wmd — tis bb the cat (owned by that guy)

how ya doing tonight?

Check to see if you are logged in to YouTube. I wasn’t one time and soon as I logged in, the sound worked.

I always wondered what it would be like to be in nosebleed seats at a U2 concert. Well, I guess it’s like this.

http://www.youtube.com/user/Jananderss#p/f/6/Su0BDLwBFRo

hey vmt — how ya doing tonight?

Oh, yeah!! I’m getting into natural salts, also. Worth the money. Natural is good, your body can shed what it doesn’t need while absorbing the minerals it does. Gray is better. Denatured 1950′s style salt is so bad, that’s in everything-bad. Creates an acid environment in your body chemistry and introduces man made molecules our bodies can’t process. Raises blood pressure and can promote diabetes.
Okay, that’s Openhope’s cooking tip tonight.

salts! ce is a salt connoisseur — she’s my go to person for salt info. i love using sea salt

Goddammit, BB KING did not die. Quit being a bunch of lazy fucks and look at the fucking video instead of making stupid assumptions. Do your due diligence or shut the fuck up.

Great. Three day weekend for me. How ’bout you?

Sorry, but salt is salt as far as the body is concerned and it treats them all the same. Natural salts have the advantage of containing other trace minerals that refined salt does not, but otherwise absolutely no health benefits.

calm down dood — i know you are upset after losing your cat. some folks can’t watch videos online

Thanks! Smoking!

dream theater

Me, too. It has a greater complexity and subtlety of flavor than regular salt. Not any healthier, but at least it tastes better.

Yes…agreed…the smells are intoxicating…

Damnit, it’s time for some Trini Lopez!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UvT8Cl2QXc

Oh… Sorry for his loss. Losing a furry four legged companion is tough

BB King the musician is still playing then… I saw the reference to Lucille and just immediately started checking.

I’m doing pretty well. Got contacted by another recruiter from company I did 2 round of interviews with; another group there is interested and I’ll be doing another phone screen on thursday.

Never give up, Never Surrender as they said in Galaxy Quest.

not all sea salts are the same though…

What a gift.

Easy does it. Even tho I looked at the video early on, I immediately thought of BBKing……then I saw the soulfull eyes of beautiful Cat. It’s a lovely tribute…..very much so. Just figure we’re all a bunch of goof-balls. No harm intended.

iirc ce talked about pink salt she got in france…. i saw a food network show on salt — amazing stuff

flea is slappin crazy!!!

True, but any of them are better than Mortons. Sea salts capture the peculiar chemical/mineral composition of the local waters where they are collected. I am afraid that when it comes to salt, my palate is not sophisticated enough to appreciate the finer distinctions.

dang ed… that’s awesome

yes…actually France exports a lot of really fine ‘sel de mer’…

want a different treat?…try caramels with sea salt…

I saw the video. It didn’t say my dear furry friend, just BB. It did seem odd to see a sweet orange kitty, but you never know how someone will memorialize someone and it could have been a tribute. I also saw the comment about Lucille. That made me do some diligence.

Condolences on losing a furry companion.

well as with all sea salts you can get into the iodine and iodine free, but thats another story…

oh yeah — i use sea or kosher salt when cooking. the kosher is a bit finer and better suited for baking or when ya want easy absorption in the food. i hear there are finishing salts, similar to finishing oils in italian cooking. that’s where the palate really notices the diff.

I agree. I’m pretty sure Hains Iodized perfect granule sea salt is a crock. I’ a big fan of Celtic Gray. And I dabble in others when I think I deserve a perk, as cook. I like some of the smoked salts. We have a supermarket that’s in hot competition with Safeway so they introduced a Silk Roads spice section. I can get Indian Black Salt for samosas, all kinds of spices. It’s a great asset. So, my salt bill tripled this year. :>

chocolate with salt is yummy — i can only imagine how great caramels are…..

Ooohhh, I have Himalayan Pink. It’s a deep cave salt, I think. The Celtic Gray is a sea harvested salt. I think.

More Ox. WIthout the Ox, most of the others mentioned as bassists don’t exist.

My favorite bass is actually an electric and an acoustic together. It sounds amazing (wish more bands would take a page from the sixties and do the same):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbyAZQ45uww

salt

Frankly, I think Jan Brewer should lose the governorship for just being too damn ugly if nothing else. Course there’s a lot else.

I get mine at the local organic foods store and it is additive free, though the oceans do contain iodine as well. One of the things I like about sea salt, at least what I have tried, is that it is less “salty” than the more refined variety and has other flavor notes owing to the presence of other salts besides sodium chloride, as well as various other minerals.

Bass?

Me. too. I never buy the regular stuff anymore.

Portuguese Fleur de Sel is especially good and brings out the flavor in foods…and then there is the hand harvested sea salt from France in Brittany..Fleur de Sel de Guerande…excellent!

Howdy Suz, Pups.

I’m a bit late as usual.

Can’t woik them Muppets.

But I got this.

And Honestly, You People Can’t Diss Townes.

Or this one.

Wish I was festing. I’d be sanging this one.

*G*

I have some of the black salt, but cannot get around the sulfurous taste.

regular salt is good for cleaning seasoned cast iron.

hey larue — how’s sac tonight?

openhope…yes Celtic gray…good choice for sure…Hain’s is passable…but nothing like some of the others..

and sprinkling on slugs

Even better with chile.

I think it only works in Indian Samosas with Garam Masala and Tamarind/Mint sauce. It’s very a specific flavor. But Samosas don’t taste the same without it.

Awww, shit, BB passed?

Damn all to hayall and bless his phreakin soul.

One of the best ever.

Ever.

Damn, I loved his every note.

Ok, now to catch up.

Dayam.

Can’t beat more bass!

I was listening to a piece on NPR today about the difficulty of mixing particles properly for drugs so that each pill has the correct amount of goodies. A scientist was saying that he responded to someone in Europe ( a candy maker) wanting to make sure that that the sugar could be distributed properly, and that that lead to breakthroughs on drugs.

I have read sea salt has less sodium than regular table salt but that sounds like bullshit to me.

Me likewise…some stores have a good variety…the only thing I have found with the salts is to definitely put several grains of whole grain rice in any container…less weeping of the salts…especially when it’s humid…

tis bb the cat not bbking larue — watch the video

And speaking of mis-reading……When I saw the topic, I was thrilled…….Oh, we’re going to talk about fishing. I’ve always said that my favorite sports shows on TV involve bass fishing…… :)~

No, BB is That Guy’s sweet kitty.

I think the stuff I get is the mass produced British stuff, but it is fine for me. As I say, I have trouble distinguishing the subtleties of salts.

I think that works best in the Santa Cruz Mountains!

Top 10 guitarists RS http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/5945/32609/32672

Kick ass hoss!

*G*

Just cuz it’s fun!

*G*

Slugs are best controlled with Budweiser or some other beer that’s swill.

They taste better! ;-)

fishing

Even more bass.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78BivgombIE

Yeah, WTF?

Expert Salmon cookers Native Americans used Madrone wood from The CA/OR Coast Range surrounding Suz!

Most sea salts are unrefined and therefore contain slightly less sodium and more trace minerals than table salts, but in some cases it is not as a dramatic difference as some manufacturers claim…

Actually that is true, but not by much. Because there are a variety of salts (not just sodium chloride) and various impurities (minerals and the like) sea salt actually does have less sodium, but is not significantly healthier.

oregon has their fair share. each fall, i lay a line of salt across the back door threshold — tis their preferred entry location into the house. nothing worse than walking barefoot in the kitchen for a midnight snack and…

Oh them slugs love the beer big time!!

Some one should pay for this travesty.

BB Kink is old, and likely near his passing.

We should honor him.

But to do so, or be FUCKN LED to do so, before his departure, is just fuckin false.

SomeONE, should pay for this.

*spits*

*G*

Nasty…then ya windup with slime foot…

Looks like I owe you the swill of your choice.

They timer just went off. I have 3 gorgeous 9 lb tom chickens chilling in ice water, each their own bath. Time to dry and wrap for aging. This is the part of the butchering process that NEEDS regulation. Meat meet ice water , soaking to cool core temperatures. If that bird isn’t clean, that water isn’t clean. And they do huge vats of birds.
We’re going to have to vote Dem. I can’t imagine another George Bush on the unregulated slaughter industry.
I should probably not talk about this stuff.

Yeah, well, ewe know how to clear a phuckin rhoom, doncha.

*G*

Ya phuckin fuck . .

*G*

Fabulous! Thanks, Suz!

My local health food store recommended a pink salt little pricey but don’t use that much. Thinking Vita Mix blender as a present to my kitchen expensive though.

wow that sounds delicious…the native americans used to eat the berries I understand…

True. As disgusted as I am with the Dems, they are still light years better than the Rethugs.

We got a cast iron grill but removed the factory seasoning with oven cleaner and reseasoned it.

I raise my glass and utter ‘prosit’ Doc! Good health to ya!

i like hearing it opehope

They did, but I do not recommend it. They have a high tannin content and are pretty astringent.

Some of the salts are a bit overpriced in my book..it does pay to shop around if you can…

If you had a dog named Keith Richards and it died… saying Keith Richards died would be correct, but best to qualify your statement with my dear four legged companion Keith died.

Losing a close companion isn’t easy. Best to find some grace.

Some sea salt is bullshit if it’s denatured. It’s the denaturing-making-perfect-flowing salt process developed in the 1950′s that created killer salt. And killer white vinegar because it’s also denatured. aka, man made molecules to preserve food longer and better than ever. For your Atom Bomb shelter or just to make suburban life more pleasant.
Can’t stop progress!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuuHu6xD-u4

another one

Can somebody just pass the freaking salt? Lordy.

Sweet dreams. Peace.

Chillin the carcass is important. Not cutting into the viscera when eviscerating is even more so. A nick in the crop or the gizzard is bad news.

Trujillo: bass faces

I am not having any problems not eating animals there is plenty of other foods more than you can eat so why bother?

g’nite openhope

stand behind my left shoulder for salt.

hey spocko — how ya doing tonight?

happy 200 ed!!!

Why…it’s my pleasure!!

Ok, I’m outta here . . .

Best to Suz, Busted, and all Pups.

Bein bitchy and stabby ain’t doin me no good.

I done did that earlier today.

All y’all stop by Foodie Sunday.

See ya then.

*G*

ZZZZZZ.

Turner

(and all the rest of BTO!)

Damn…Suz…and my crowin voice is all weak and …

I’ve got to get back up to the east side of the Sierras! I fished with a ladies’ fishing club down here for a while, but I’m not happy on the open sea….much rather walk a stream.

New York Side Of Life

Loved Jim Carroll, his Basketball Diaries.

Saw him live a few times back then, SF.

*G*

THEY DIED!

*G*

Speaking as an anthropologist, there are a lot of nutrients (mostly proteins and fats) which are easier to get from animal sources than from plant sources. Because the animal versions are closer to the human ones than the plant versions, they are more easily digested and utilized. That said, you can more easily get a complete diet from exclusively plant sources than from exclusively animal sources. You do have to work at it, however, especially for the proteins.

Thanks. I just cannot imagine that salt can become such a freaking designer product in a recession of this magnitude!

G’nite Larue…
and stop that bitchin and stabbin dood…
or the evil eye will getcha…;–)

g’nite larue

hey glenjo — how ya doing tonight?

There is that. Another reason that I cannot get too much into it.

Too drunk to provide text.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzQbRxWqp6k

Today I spent 10 hours writing a diary that not just seems obvious.

I was trying to be clever and draw parallels between the EPA saying the air is safe at ground zero and the FDA saying the gulf seafood is safe. Then I thought, “Who cares? The people who read this know this. The people I’m trying to convince to pay attention aren’t going to read this. I would be better off pushing the stories of the ‘real’ people challenging the FDA.

Sigh.

Here is how it started.

News Items: Sept. 18 2001. EPA declares air around Ground Zero is safe to breathe

EPA Administrator Christie Whitman: “Given the scope of the tragedy from last week, I am glad to reassure the people of New York and Washington, D.C. that their air is safe to breath and their water is safe to drink,”

News Item: July 29, 2010. FDA declares Gulf seafood safe to eat.

FDA Commissioner Dr. Margaret Hamburg said the government is, “confident all appropriate steps have been taken to ensure that seafood harvested from the waters being opened today is safe and that Gulf seafood lovers everywhere can be confident eating and enjoying the fish and shrimp that will be coming out of this area.”

News Item: October 6, 2001. Business pressure NYC officials to open more of “red zone” around Ground Zero despite concerns of air safety.

Even though officials were told the air was not yet safe building owners and business owners pressure NYC Office of Emergency Management to open more of the “red zone” around ground zero. – CNN

News Item: August 16, 2010. Push to open Louisiana waters despite concerns of seafood safety

U.S. Commerce Secretary Gary Locke meets with Louisiana fishermen and seafood industry representatives to help promote the $318-million-a year seafood business in Louisiana.. Harlon Pearce, head of the state’s seafood promotion board and a seafood dealer allays fears over seafood safety to media despite serious concerns from local fishermen who would be held liable for selling tainted shrimp.

“Opening day is like a religion to these people,” he said. “It’s a way of life down here.” – AP

There is also the shear sensuality of meat eating. We don’t eat solely for nutrition.

And de gustibus non est disputandum.

Hey, I was falsely led astray.

But BB IS old.

As to me bein led astray . . .

WELL, Busted, or who ever, bad form methinks.

*G*

Your not discounting the protein sources of soy and all the bean family are you?

i like the timeline idea spocko — maybe that *is* the way to make your target audience see the parallels

There is that as well and I am a committed omnivore. One of the reasons that animal foods taste so good, however, is that they are (in moderation) so good for you. Our bodies are primed by evolution to crave those things which are essential, but rare in nature. Sadly they are far too common today (fats, sugars, etc.) to our detriment.

Anything that gets any undo attention can be easily turned into some shiny object…too many to name!!!

The only time in my life that I’ve been overweight was when I was a vegetarian for about two years. I thought I was getting plenty of protein, guess I was missing something, though, because I couldn’t quell the appetite.

When I can’t figger out who or what the fuck died, it’s a hard day on the planet.

And I mean that.

*G*

Oh, OK.

I know Turner’s not quite in the same class as the other bassman, but that one takes me back.

Not at all, but they are not complete proteins and need to be eaten with other foods (generally cereals) to provide the missing elements for reproducing human tissues.

Shit happens, hoss.

*G*

Geebuz, what am I DOIN here still . . .

All RIGHT already!

Wadday ya mean whattaday ya mean!

*G*

Protein deficiency is a common problem in vegetarian diets. You can compensate, but you have to work at it.

The Mayor in the movie Jaws said that the water was safe after a shark killing…

Doc…I would have no argument with your commitment to being an omnivore, but I sure hope that your eating habits revolve around wholesome products that are produced without hormones and antibiotics, and are grown with sustainability and good processing habits.

i like bto and turner is a good bassist. i always think of this when i think of bto — takes me back to when i was younger and doing that grind.

I eat what I can afford. The reality is that most people in America cannot afford to eat a very healthy diet. It is VERY expensive.

As you stated…I would add if you don’t look at the big picture with any kind of eating regime, you will eventually suffer the consequences…that goes for the omnivore diet as well…

Soy actually is a complete protein. The main essential amino acid that’s tough for vegetarians – Lysine is present in Soy.

Miso is a really fine way to get protein from soy. I suspect the micro-organisms responsible for fermentation improve the essential amino acid profile.

LOL! Um, that’s QUITE a grind.

Doc…I certainly would not challenge the economics of affordable consumption, but saying people can’t eat a healthy diet in this country is not completely accurate in my opinion…it does require education on healthy choices and access to local foods…which is sometimes hard to achieve…

the expense of food is something we have to change and we will not do it by following the growing and production regime we have adhered to for far too long…it is a self-defeating system.

Meat and animal products are a natural part of the human diet. We are natural omnivores, but meat was not a large part of our natural diet (nor were sugars, fats, and refined starches). There are many things which we need and crave, but which we should consume in moderation. I eat meat, dairy, and eggs pretty much every day, but not in huge amounts. I also eat lots of vegetables and whole grains and fruits (mostly because I like them, but also because they are healthy). Balance and moderation are ultimately the key to a healthy diet.

Funny, after I gave up the vegetarian life (age 20), I went to eat a burger and stopped on the way home for a steak to bbq.

It was an instantaneous decision…just felt like I was starving!

whoops…. that was the song but *not* the video i was going for…. *blushing*

The talk about eating meat was in response to openhope’s processing of some 9 pound cockerels she just slaughtered today.

She put each bird in its own ice bath. Very good processing practice.

Last time I processed home slaughtered chicken I did the chilling step in individual zip locks. Not quite the same – birds got washed with clean water after eviscerating and butchering, then put in zip locks in ice water. Better practice than commercial meat processors by a long shot.

Time to clean house!

Loo Hoo, I suddenly feel better about that bag of beef jerky stashed in the cupboard.

be right back

I think it is an art form to eat vegetarian. It is work for a while but the vegetarian children shine with radiant health. Also think meat eaters live more stress filled life styles and are much more aggressive. It is a personal choice but I have to say my kitchen is made beautiful by the juice bottles filled with nuts, grains, seed, legumes, dried fruits, spices, vinegar sundry oils..flax, sunflower, safflower, coconut oil and kelp, Plus all the live veggies like tomatoes, parsely, lettuces, chard and on and on and on. So much to learn to enjoy and be grateful for. Don’t need to kill or catch and I can compete mentally and physically. Of course yoga and other exercise helps make it work. Still use dairy…goat kefir and yogurt and a lot of fruit. Cornacopia yes.

Many people, especially the poor, simply do not have reasonable access to healthy food. Even when it is available, many people cannot afford the prices for organic or free range meat on a regular basis (it is readily available here, but is $1-2 a pound more expensive than conventionally raised meat).

Much more involved than the process the last time I was involved in butchering animals (and I have helped butcher a wide array of wild and domestic animals).

Balance and moderation are ultimately the key to a healthy diet.

Hey Doc, no argument with that statement…and you know when it comes to most things in life…different strokes for different folks…that’s cool. I also think that there are foods that have a particular memory attached to them and often create a sensual sensation when we eat them…that does not necessarily imply that they are healthy!

Often after eating a certain way or a particular dietary regime we get a tendency to do ‘binge’ eating…it seems a natural stimulus response from the former diet…that does not always equate with a direct need!

’bout time for me to head out folks. thanks for letting me hang out with ya tonight and for all the music and conversations. hope to see ya tomorrow nite for sat nite cartoon.

g’nite and *le poof*

Maybe I had to create the parrellels for my self. Maybe I’ll post it then link to it as short hand.
I ask my self what do I want to accomplish with the diary. How can I use what I write to change a mind or persuade another.

I want the media to change their mind set and assume the regulator agency is not doing it’s job. I want the media to acknowledge that the FDA are most likely being directed by commercial interests first not human health. And that instead of taking the FDA and NOAa’s word things are fine start listening to outside experts first and put them on the defensive. Also if human health is really in the balance with commerce let’s put the numbers on the table.
X people will get cancer because it will cost y dollar to do Z level testing.
We could do Z level testing but it would force us to shut down fishing for N months at a cost of XX dollars.

It is, as you say, a choice and I do not denigrate those who do not eat meat. I expect the same from them.

Night. Think I will toddle off as well. Take care all.

And just because I think it is relevant: You are what you eat!

yup. There’s a reason that phrase is in latin – the idea is ancient. People like to eat what they like to eat and no sense trying to change it (outside of helping with deficiencies, etc – scurvy and rickets are bad news).

I need to get to bed myself.

good night all.

G’nite Suz…sleep well and peaceful dreams!

G’nite Doc…pleasure talking with you!

In temperate CA we have year round Farmer’s Markets. Nationwide one of the fastest growing food distributors still small percentage of supply. But our suppliers of grocery warehouse products increase “Shelf Life” with chemicals that are bio accumulative and grown with pesticides, fungicided, industrial fertilizer and other perservatives. Those are some good reasons to eat organically. The food chain in USA is polluted as is the soils it is grown on. That brings us to a watershed issue of polluting our groundwater.

Well. We’re omnivores. If I don’t get enough veges, I crave a salad and veges. Same thing!

G’nite wmd…sleep well…

Great, then I’m going to go eat some rich foods!

and eggs?

You need to evaluate the amount of land needed to grow meat as compared to non meat for one. The impacts of ranching and farming are well documented. Some intersting dta now suggests that food processors like Vita Mix triple the nutritional value of foods and the way thing are stored and prepared can conserve. 6 billion people on the planet. How would one supply meat for all? Even water is short supply. As far as meat as a genetic necessity I question that.

I think whatever sustains people and makes them feel good in a balanced and natural way is a good thing. Vegan, omnivore, and every other regime. A good part of what happens with food is the attitude and gratitude that you have when you consume it. That can make the food transformational.

Most people feel good when a meal is shared with joy, when you are angry and upset, no food goes down well…it is all transformational.

That part about the genetic necessity of any one particular food type is a very old one, and is played out with data on both sides of the argument…but I do not think that an argument can be made about sustainability when it comes to livestock production versus grain and vegetable production. It takes less resources to grow and cultivate grains and vegetables…it is a proven fact!

When I walked through East Africa I noticed that meat was a tiny percentage of their diet. Some more than others. Meat can make a dominate culture. It can cause cancer and other diseases. The less people want the food I like the cheaper it will be. But all in all I have lost desire to buy meat or eat eggs I am happy to say. And I do get pangs for somethings feeling a deficiency but then so do omnivores.

Played with eggs a bit still have some in the frig but no real desire as the seem lifeless compared to say some home sprouted legumes or some green beans. Put some in a pizza dough not that good better without eggs. My taste is what I listen to.

I agree. I’m blown away with the portions I get in restaurants, though. One meal in a restaurant is 2-3 meals for me. So sad to see the size of the silverware, plates, etc.

Also I think the metabolism rate is a factor in processing foods. After a weight workout I am hungry not so much after aerobics, just had garlic buttee roasted toast followed by a slice of homemade pizza crust with avacado and then a half avi sand on bread. Rinsed my mung and lentil sprouts and headed for bed. Have a great weekend Loo Hoo and EDVE.

Specially for Suz. Pics of Oregon.

M Ganhdi’s Seven Blunders on your site!

Good morning, pups. Today we’ve got Collins, Blow and Herbert. Ms. Collins addresses “The Ungreat Debate” and says this week in Arizona, there was continued talk from the governor about nonexistent beheadings. And there were 16 seconds of silence. Mr. Blow, in “Religious Outlier,” says according to a new Gallup poll, richer countries in general are less religious. But that doesn’t seem to be true of the United States. Mr. Herbert, in “Of janitors and Kings,” says janitors in a Los Angeles office that is part of the JPMorgan Chase empire lose their jobs but find their voices of protest.

Here they are.

The coffee and tea are ready, the cold drinks are in the fridge, and I’ve got corned beef hash and poached eggs to fuel me up for working in the garden. As an aside, I’ve got a blossom on an orchid plant I rescued from the “$2 death rack” at Lowe’s 2 weeks ago. I’m so proud of that little plant that I could squeal!

oh Marion, that’s a beauty — no wonder you are poppin’ at the seams.