Welcome back, attaturk. What, you think the sacred salamanders might seem out of the ordinary to most of us? I got a kick out of Beckster telling his follower types that they need to tithe, and he needs to pay for them getting to his party.

The weird thing about the “Farewell Tour” is that the He quit playing in the early 1st Century and didn’t go back on the road until the 1800′s, somewhere in New York. Even weirder is how he changed the band’s name to Joseph Smith and the Polygamists. I wonder if they ever did Woodstock? (the town, not the festival, you morans!)

For a bunch of strict “constitutionalists” they sure as hell don’t seem to care much for separation of church and state.

If they want a country run by religion, I hear Iran is lovely this time of year.

I’m proud that Medicare has provided the means for so many angry old white people who otherwise might be homebound to go on vacation.

I do sometimes wonder about the side effects of their meds, though. Particularly the confusion and agitation.

And welcome back, Doc.

“Hmmmm, I’m guessing far more Christians don’t recognize, among other of Beck’s beliefs, that Jesus came to North America for a Farewell Tour.”

LMAO.

i read an article on yahoo about Albert Pujols being recognized by manager Tony La Russa at the rally. La Russa commented that it was “more religious than political” and “couldn’t understand” why people had made such a big deal. ridiculous.

[Link fixed by mod.]

Seems they’ve been coached about screeching to get the gobmint’s hands off their social security tho.

I cede the right wing’s claim on civil rights, tho, since if they hadn’t been out there fighting against them, there wouldn’t have been the need to pass the legislation.

Driftglass said it best:

Kept waiting for Trashcan Man to show up dragging a nuke.

Glenn’s sacramental panties must be chafing. All’s you need to know about Mormonism you’ll find by googling “Mountain Meadows Massacre.” Vicious bastages just like the christians at Beziers, Drogheda, Magdeburg and a thousand other places where they’ve tortured and murdered.

Good morning, pups. It’s Monday (ugh) so it’s The Pasty Little Putz and Prof. Krugman. Oh, boy. The Pasty Little Putz has a new crush. In “Mr. Beck Goes to Washington” he fizzes that Glenn Beck’s “Restoring Honor” rally on the Washington Mall was long on piety and patriotism, but not on politics. He was there, and it was teh awesome! Prof. Krugman seems mired in the Slough of Despond. In “It’s Witch-Hunt Season” he says in a repeat from the 1990s, the Republicans appear bent on ugliness and paralysis.

Here they are.

The coffee and tea are ready, the cold drinks are in the fridge, and the biscuits are out of the oven. The weather forecasters tell me that it won’t rain today, so maybe I’ll get to stop picking mushrooms out of my flower beds… Have a great day.

Thanks, Marion, not sure it’s a repeat, it’s continuing Uglies from what I’ve seen of the right wing.

The underlying plan may be that Koch, et al., are using Beck to “de-demonize” Mormonism to pave the way for Mittens, having made him acceptable to the lumpen.

Attaturk, succinct and I hope you are well rested.

I just suggested to that roth fella over at the NYT to brush up on his Upton Sinclare history and beware of those “special of special Christians” with the cool undies.

If Mormons reject Revelations Chapter 22 verse 19 where do they stop?

Welcome back, hope you had a nice time off. I’m getting a 404 on the 87,000 link. You’re like me, take a few days off and you have to be re-trained. ;-)

Looks like Beck missed the Do not Judge part and quite abit about loving one’s neighbor, which may include Muslims, etc.

More religious….they why did they get out federal property for a service?

Well, to be fair, The Putz did say it was about piety and not Christianity. In my experience the two are almost never anywhere near each other.

Ah yes, those poor, poor besieged white people; replete with Beckolia Imagery of fire hoses and clubbings… making desparate kabuki to convince a group of people that have traditionally exploited white privilege to oppress others that they are the vicitims.

Because, you know, blaming people of color for what the upper echelons do has worked so well every time a country embraces fascism. (eyeroll)

Had President Obama any babymakers, he would have chosen that day to book the Lincoln Memorial himself, and spoke clearly against the muslim-white-hating-socialist-bs meme that the Fox Network allows. He would have spoke truth, and spoke of the fact the MIC, the bankers and the energy companies are the people at fault for the oppression of all people in this country. He would have said we need to stand together to all be strong enough to overcome that influence.

Unfortunately, as long as no one will come out and say “They are lying, He is lying…” people will flock like panicked sheep to the lies. They don’t understand that “taking our country back” means from the top 1% that controls 85% of our wealth and resources.

Nascar Nation indeed.

Hey Palin? I can see white sheets from my front porch… and you & Beck are far more threatening to MY country with your false false flag, code-speak, hatemongering than Russia.

gah, paragraph breaks got lost on edit of comment. Sorry, they wouldn’t restore.

For this person of the atheist persuasion I must say seeing these religionists with their panties in a twist is a bloody laugh. Saying that they live in a fantasy world would be redundant.

I don’t know…but Beck’s language sounded religious…(but I heard little;)

It does look that way but if you do a refresh of your browser, they will magically re-appear.

General Jesus type Christians will be the death of us. I bet one of these fools will be responsible for scorching the planet.

What Glen Beck really proved is that there are a lot of white scared racists in this country. We have always known that there is a sizeable petty-bourgeoisie to form the base of a fascist political movement in the US, just like Hitler had in Germany during its economic crisis in the 30s of the last century.

The point is to change it – as Marx would have said!

A day without Atta, just doesn’t matta.

Thanks for another wonderful start to my morning. Every bit as useful to me as those first few sips of coffee and those are important.

Well, I take some time off and I miss the latest boring rally for 87,000 people with the body mass of 174,000.

Fat. The last socially acceptable prejudice? I found your opening to be irrelevant and offensive. I’m a liberal, but I ain’t thin. Michael Moore isn’t exactly thin. Dibgy at Hullabaloo has some curves too.

Hmmmm, I’m guessing far more Christians don’t recognize, among other of Beck’s beliefs, that Jesus came to North America for a Farewell Tour.

Good old religious sectarian squabbles. Let’s see if we can’t drum some up! Wonderful stuff.

I know I’m supposed to cheer for “our side”, but I can’t cheer for your post here. Other than engaging in the same kind of “them” and “they” divisiveness that we decry when it comes from “them” and “they”, I’m not sure I get the point.

I guess what I’m saying is this…

While 87,000 or more of “them” were out there publicly standing up for what they believe in (however wrong headed we may think their beliefs to be), “we” (by which I mean the liberal/progressive blogosphere) were mostly sitting behind our keyboard and in front of our TV’s. At this point in time, given the overall dispiritedness of prgressives after having been labeled “effin retards” by the president’s chief of staff and just generally punched over and over as DFH’s by our “progressive” president, I sort of wonder if we could manage to gin up 87,000 or more for a gathering in DC. And ya know, I tend to doubt that we could.

It seems like all I see coming from our side these days are accusations of racism and epithets like “dumb” and “fat” and “redneck” aimed at those who do not agree with us. And I gotta say that for me (and people like Bob Somerby at the Daily Howler who has noticed the same thing), it’s really getting old. We tolerant liberals and progressives writing and commenting in the blogosphere are beginning to sound, at least to me, about as tolerant as the other side. Is this really where we collectively want to go? I know I don’t

I don’t have enough cash (trouble finding regular work) to hire a bus and I don’t think Mr Kock is going to pony up for me.

I guess I could have signed up somewhere, infiltrated the rally and have been left hitch-hiking home though.

“It seems like all I see coming from our side these days are accusations of racism and epithets like “dumb” and “fat” and “redneck” aimed at those who do not agree with us. And I gotta say that for me (and people like Bob Somerby at the Daily Howler who has noticed the same thing), it’s really getting old. We tolerant liberals and progressives writing and commenting in the blogosphere are beginning to sound, at least to me, about as tolerant as the other side. Is this really where we collectively want to go?”

Good lord man, what the hell are you thinking? If there are racists then you call the SOBs out you don’t allow them to spew their bs not stop. I would have thought the ignorant Dems would have figured that out from the last election. Obama responded immediately to the lies and racist crap.

You go ahead and bend over and take it. Not me. Tolerance has NO PLACE with the bullshit the rightwing are spewing.

I’m not even a progressive or liberal and I think you’re waaaaay off base.
I think you are a bit odd to say the least.

I have to wonder about that whole Albert Pujols thing. It was transparently an effort to sggest “we don’t hate LEGAL immigrants”…but it seems to me that Alberts Dad was oddly able to circumvent the immigration restrictions to bring his whole family in. I think he got in because his brother vouched for him, but somehow the whole family got in? And obtained permanent residency? Taking a job that presumably “Americans would do”?

Have to wonder how many Tea Partiers would actually agree to such an open-ended visa policy.

And it’s interesting that it was multi-millionaire Pujols that was celebrated, and not the Dad (who is deceased). Apparently Dad never really assimilated, couldn’t speak English very well (which is why he moved to the 60,000strong Dominican enclave of St. Louis), and never bothered to apply for US Citizenship. Papa Pujols would definitely not be on the Tea Partiers “bring in your unwashed masses” list, I suspect.

I don’t know where you get your information but I’ve attended rallies on the mall starting with Mayday ’71.

The problem is the MSP refuses to report the tree falling in the forest or demonstrations against the ruling elite’s wars which outnumbered beck’s clown show by two or three times. You would remember if you were there.

But would you include that, “bring your shotgun to the Congressman’s townhall” element of the non-progressive side in that? When the righties show up with the heavy weaponry, the Law just seems to glance the other way or give a nervous chuckle.

I agree that internet advocacy is a cheap substitute for getting out and meeting and talking to real people, and it always will be, even if they invent hologram blogs. And it’s easy just to get lazy at the keyboard and feel that you did your part.

I just would like to see more reasoning and debating facts in public, but that won’t happen with the right-winger mobs that rich people in the shadows are organizing. They’re out there on their best behavior because an election is coming up. But if the progressives tried the same thing, the righties would be out there, packing a load, and trying to make some trouble.

The Weimar Republic pretty much follows a script.

The link to “members of the St. Louis Cardinals” doesn’t work.

The link to “article on yahoo” doesn’t work.

I don’t know where you get your information but I’ve attended rallies on the mall starting with Mayday ‘71.

Oh, that was you?

They came by the hundreds of thousands. They spoke. They were peaceful, and cleaned up after themselves. great day for America. These people could teach a thing or two to the left when it comes to protesting.

Wait, I thought it was hundreds of millions?

Au contraire, as a weight-blessed ‘Murican I reserve the right to a glass house. However, in this same post I also make fun of Mormons, the Cardinals, NASCAR fans…oh, and Nazis.

I’m sure if you check back in the next few weeks, I’ll be mocking Republicans, Zima, and invoking images of John McCain using a clamshell filled with bees to shave (ala Fred Flinstone) — because he’s really, really old.

Yes, because we all know how disturbing and slovenly the March on Washington was.

Obama did say there were billions saved or created.

Are you saying it was a religious protest? What were they protesting? Not enough government establishment of religion?

Government had nothing to do with this. These were citizens. Never met a religious person who wanted a federal church. Never. There were 9 state religions at one time. Never federal. The constitution does not allow for the federal govt to set up churches.

Funny, I thought the ref. to body mass was the miscounting that went on (the 87,000 that broadcast itself double). Perhaps I was mistaken, I read all kinda weird shit my way.

My attempt at writing a Rorschach Test worked…for one person.

Hooray.

Excellent Beck-Lincoln cartoon here:

http://last-lost-empire.com/blog/

I must be “out there” this morning. When I first read that, I thought Lincoln was talking about being “upstaged.” I guess I got up on the wrong side of the bed.

What? John Smith didn’t find the gold tablets of Jeebus in Missouri!

that was one of religions I studied early on in my spiritual searches which I KNEW is a fairy tale made up wholecloth

Didn’t government make them citizens?

The participants said it was religious. You said it was a protest. What were they protesting?

The Constitution does not allow government to establish religion.

There was no 14th Amendment at 1 time.

Did you ever meet a religious person who wanted government money for his church or its work?

What Beck said sounded much better in the original German.

“Did you ever meet a religious person who wanted government money for his church or its work?”

Yes. When I was a lot younger there was a pretty big squabble about using tax money for school buses for catholic schools. And if churches do not want taxpayer money, why is there an office of “faith based whatever” in the White House?

People that go to church are taxpayers.

An excellent read if you missed it:

Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin: “Restoring honor?”
http://tinyurl.com/22kl2dq

True.

That proves what? In other words, relevance?

I heard a brief clip of Beck on NPR this morning. The clip was from some show on Fox on Sunday. Beck said that all those people in Wash DC on Saturday were “mad about things.” Seriously: “mad about things.”

Uuuh, yeah? And who isn’t “mad about things”??

Hey: I support the right of these people to assemble – not that they particularly support MY right to assemble. But here I am unclear on the concept. Whether fat or thin, what were they saying? Not much imo.

There’s some “stuff” about “honor.” And this group was told to leave their nasty, racist, Hitler signs at home. So all the past frisson that these people created last summer was gone. So, ok, we had “X” thousands of rightwing white oldsters out on the mall listening to speeches sorta-kinda notsomuch about Jesus by some Mormon pretending not to be a Mormon. And all funded by zillionaire “Libertarian” Koch’s.

And sooooo, the point would beeeeeeee??? What?

Seriously, I’m not sure what, exactly, the point is.

Yeah, the Beckerheads are “mad about things.” That is actually true. Some members of my rightwing fundie family are Beckerheads who worship Palin, and yes, they were there on the Mall, front and center, no doubt exhibiting how “mad” they are about “things.” I have yet to figure out, though, what, exactly, they are “mad” about. Sometimes it’s about “taxes” and sometimes it’s about “government.” But it has never made much sense to me, but please don’t call them racists (yeah, right).

They’ve been bankrolled by the Koch’s who are ginning them up to push for the uber-wealthy (and believe me, none of those on the Mall are the super wealthy) to keep their tax cuts. And then folks like Beck and Franklin Graham will gin them up to be “mad” about Pres Obama bc he’s a secret Kenyan Muzlinz (can’t have them use the “n” word; look what happened to Dr. Laura).

And so on.

Leftie *should* get offa our lazy butts and congregate more? Well mebbe, but there have been a number of anti-war protests THIS year, but you’d never know it, would you? The rightwing media pees in its collective pants to “report on” the Beckerheads on parade displaying how “mad” they are about “things.” Real anti-war protests??? Nah, not gonna see the boots on the ground about that.

Amen. Beck has spoken, and so has Palin, and so has Hagee. And what did they say? What, really, did they say???

The media does not show the war protests as they they tend to get violent.

And you didn’t make this rant into a diary of its own, why exactly?

You really are living fifty years in the past aren’t you?

Nope. I found one last month. They were burning the flag. Held up the Bush is a Nazi signs. Look it up. It was in front of the white house.

And where’s the violence in those actions?

Agree. Completely.

It’s easy to mock the Cardinals for being opposed to integration in 1947. However, I believe some of the Dodgers even were less than enamored of playing with a black man. I am thinking of Dixie Walker, brother to Harry Walker mentioned in the Enos Slaughter obituary. Red Barber wrote a book about the 1947 season: http://www.amazon.com/1947-Broke-Loose-Baseball-Paperback/dp/0306802120

This is a list of MLB teams in 1947 and their season of integration:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_first_black_Major_League_Baseball_players_by_team_and_date

You will notice that the Cardinals integrate in 1954 whereas the Yankees integrate in 1955, the Phillies in 1957, the Tigers in 1958, and the Red Sox in 1959, a full dozen years after the Dodgers. So who was really opposed to integration and dragging their feet? Brown vs. Board of Education was decided 1954. St.Louis was the southernmost city in MLB from 1903 until 1953, slightly south of Cincinnati and Washington, D.C.