Douchehat is just another commentator who loves to deal in false equivalencies. If the right does something not exactly flattering, the left must do ti also.

Fu$#ing r37@rded

Exactly what struck me and I commented as much at BoggTBogg land. Even Obama getting elected by identity politics is absurd, since what they mean there is that he’s black and African Americans make up only 12% of the population and would have almost all voted for a Democrat who was white as well. (88% for Kerry, see below)

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/US/P/00/epolls.0.html

Douthat is remarkable in that he gets almost nothing right, ever. Aspiring to be David Brooks is no way to go through life, Ross.

That’s about all I can make out.

“It’s okay that a bunch of drooling retards follow Palin because she’s a fundie — people followed Howard Dean for the same reason.”

Doesn’t really work, though.

I’m confused I thought the official GOP Party line was they hated identity politics that Woman, African American, Gay are labels that divide the country.
I guess its ok if your a GOPer?

That’s the other big problem with this column. “Look how awesome identity politics is now that conservatives are doing it” is more than a little annoying.

He is aware of the Problem with identity politics Angry White Males screaming hate, for Immigrants, Gays Women, Screaming crazy tin foil hat stuff about Obama being a secret Muslim?
None of that gets a person a job or gets them back into their homes, none of that gets our troops home.
The Blue Dogs drop in the polls says that we are right and the GOP and Blue Dogs are wrong.
I wonder how truly Left Candidates will do this election?

Agreed but the election math behind it suggests its also stupid. The GOP can lose Hispanics for a generation that puts Florida within our grasp now and it helps us with Texas in time.
The GOP loses Florida and Texas they stop being a national party.
Florida’s older voters might love the GOP the younger ones hate being treated like Shit especially when they visit other states like AZ by the GOP their parents love just because they look Mexican.

Also at the risk of repeating a BoggLand comment I already made, by writing that Ross Perot engaged in “riveting debate” Douthat can only mean debate about actual riveting. Otherwise he’s simply insane.

The only thing I can figure out about wingnuts’ increasingly racist rants is that they are trying to scare the blacks & browns away from voting.

As Ross Perot was on the edge of sanity (to be generous), Douthat must experience nearly insane ranting as riveting. I wouldn’t be a bit surprised.

Short term during an economic Depression blaming immigrants can work. But given that the Immigrants Rights crowd can get 10 times the numbers Glen Beck can I don’t see the GOP base as being energized by the Tea Baggers.
Immigrants are a minority not all Hispanics support Immigrant Rights obviously to get a crowd 10 times as big as Glen got we had support from other groups, much larger support than Glen got while he was trying to reach out to African Americans.
Unless the GOP steals this election the more hate the GOP throws at Hispanics the more likely we are to vote this fall.
Pollsters use models based on likely voters we are unlikely voters the polls should be wrong.

Douchat makes Glenn Beck sound coherent

That was my worry with the AZ law I figured the police could surround the voting places in Hispanic areas of AZ and just start saying their ID papers were funny then hold them until after election day once the word gets out many of us who don’t want to risk jail would decide not to vote.
But the Law is being held up by the courts now so I guess plan B is steal the election in several Hispanic GOP states.

HOUSTON – A three-alarm fire swept through a northeast Houston warehouse early Friday wiping out more than 10,000 pieces of voting equipment. City officials said they are unsure what will be done when voting begins in the next few months

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=8017

This reeks of Chicago Style politics and Karl I’m surprised a plane did not crash into the building with a Democrat aboard or a witness against the GOP on board.

Back when I supported Dean, I don’t remember thinking “Dean is a christian medical doctor from New England, just like I’m not. I should vote for him.”, but maybe I did.

That could be because Douthat is a magna cum laud graduate of Harvard and Beck briefly attended Yale (assuming their wikis are accurate).

Mandatory Drug and Alcohol tests for Media People Bloggers and Pundits?

Just how many on our side would fail for pot? Admitted low use but traces? How many on their side use something to AMP UP the hate?

I think that’s very much part of the plan in AZ. But when you see something obvious like that, you should also look for more hidden forms of the same tactics. These programs are thoroughly designed, though you usually don’t figure out just how until long after the fact.

You can call the politics identity or whatever you want. The fact remains that when people are out of work and uncertain, they are liable to do anything even elect Sarah Palin who will tell them, incorrectly of course, that she is the answer to their problems. It also helps to have someone to blame everything on, blacks, hispanics, Jews or whoever is handy.

I identified with Dean because he is male and I am not. *g*

Generous indeed. Ross (Perot, not Douthat) was certifiable.

http://www.realchange.org/perot.htm

Scroll down to the heading “Paranoia” and drink your fill.

It pays nice though.

Christoher Hitchens booze the last time he was sober on tv was 5, 6 years ago? Ann Coulter drugs google that About 693,000 results (0.33 seconds) Michelle Malkin drugs About 346,000 results
Rush Oxy, Viagra Jon McCain’s wife had enough pills to get my old highschool high possession with intent to deliver should have been the charge.
Rudi’s South Carlina campaign chair Thomas Ravenel a half kilo of coke and I think he’s out already?
Come on trolls any recent Dem drug scandals like this?

From your link, this is exactly what I had in mind, though I couldn’t recall the specifics.

Perot’s paranoia is pretty well known, due to his announcement in 1992 that he was quitting the presidential race (in which he was a very strong contender) because Republican’s were planning to disrupt his daughters wedding

Hidden forms of the same tactics hmm we need an expert on AZ who is up on this story for that I might be able to explore this more if it was Chicago I know that cities politics but not AZ.

Check out Beck’s wiki for his substance problems. Mother’s likely suicide & daughter with cerebral palsy gives him an excuse to drown his sorrows, but that doesn’t make him credible.

Thats the GOP plan but as my comment at 12 suggests the plan is not working. I admit stealing the election my comment at 15 that seems to be working.

…and now in the devotion devolution that Palin inspires among socially conservative women.

Drugs Booze and Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder maybe a top 100 media, bloogers, Pundits post and googling drug, Booze crime problems etc would be good Pat Buchanan bragged in a book about hitting a cop.

There must be a lot of fruitcakes bakin today cause there’s idiocy everywhere. Beck – enough said – estimates of the “huge” crowd Saturday range from 80,000 to 3 million. Hey, dudes, if you really don’t know, STFU.
The crazy as bat poop Attorney General of Virginia who thinks his denial from the judge is some weird victory…and Obama who thinks he’s in a parallel universe where the economy is good, he is a god-like creature, and everybody just loves him. “Hey, President, start acting like a leader – They’re going to keep attacking you cause you are weak, man, just weak.”

I thought Perot was the most entertaining person who every appeared in politics. Made me laugh all the time.

Beck does seem to have a full deck of all the necessary cards to be a wingnut pundit, doesn’t he.

David Dayen has a fresh cross-post ready: Obama Again Calls for Vote on Small Business Lending Bill

Too bad Jon Stewart wasn’t around at the time.

I don’t watch SNL. Were they around? If so, they must have had a ball.

That would have been a great question for SnarkCassy’s book club yesterday. I mean Sarah works and was as governor giving men orders. She neglected her house her daughter got knocked up. She is rummored to have pushed for the maximum for her soon to be drug user daughter’s mother in law maybe thats why the wedding was called off.
She is obviously unprepared and makes conservative women look bad I mean Katie Couric nailed her does it get any softer touch than that?

Is he maybe conflating with personality cult? Not that that would make his Dean example valid….

Or that somehow Dean validated ‘the young, secular and tech-savvy’, and that’s why they supported him in turn? Granted, they may have found an older, secular, tech-savvy politician a refreshing change o’ pace, but that wouldn’t be enough to support him for the white house. And I think they’d be offended to be compared to Palin’s zombie creep-wagon, yeesh…

Yes but lets not forget the Vic’s under the nose to cry on command. I think I liked the GOP better before they became sensitive.

Karl’s fix it for all the black voters that relocated to Houston from New Orleans.

Dana Carvey built a good part of his career playing Perot

He’s trying to explain the Tea Party/Beck phenomenon, and by extension, identity politics, as simply the harmless and completely understandable tendencies of people to prefer leaders who are ‘just like us’.

As opposed to what most thinking people understand is at the root of the Tea Party/Beck phenomenon, that being the stupidest, most bigoted Americans, being led around by the nose by those who’ve made a fantastic living for nearly fifty years by leading the stupidest, most bigoted Americans around by the nose.

The most salient point to be understood about the Tea Party movement at this point in its development, is that its adherents have once again been manipulated to commit their support and their votes to the same rich and powerful interests who are responsible for the very conditions that lie at the root of their anger and resentment.

If the Tea Party people would only commit a small portion of their energies to understanding that it was the same people who are now financing their movement, that shipped their jobs overseas, turned our country’s finance industry into a casino, and drove our country into the ditch, then we could possibly find a way to work together to fix those things that tend to make us all so angry.

But that would require they stop believing that all of our country’s problems have been caused by wrong-headed liberals efforts to eliminate the pain of their liberal-guilt complex by taking things from poor, hard-working white people, and giving them to poor, lazy, colored people.

We can’t start communicating with Tea Party adherents until they stop listening to the incessant whine of their master’s dog-whistle instructions;

They want to raise taxes so they can give more entitlements to poor brown people.

They want to tear down your white, Christian churches to make room for more mosques serving violent brown people.

Yes, Douthat is trying to convince us that Tea Partiers aren’t racist rubes being led around by the rich and powerful MOTU; they’re just average people like you and me who prefer leaders who are just folks, just like them.

The only trouble with accepting Douthat’s story line is that it would require ignoring what we already know to be true, and that is that there is such a thing as the “Southern Strategy” and it has worked infallibly to allow the republicans to lead stupid, bigoted Americans by the nose for almost fifty years, it convinces those stupid bigoted people to vote against they’re own economic self-interest year after year, happy to think that by supporting the republicans, they are somehow holding the line on more government give-aways to poor colored people.

“Identity Politics” is all about Teh Ghey.

But according to Howie Kurtz Teh Ghey is impossible to identify, unless there’s been a investigation by Ken Starr.

OT but from a discussion yesterday, of whether those on the left should support someone center-right like Humphrey or Obamarahma, has anyone seen this article on HP? I must say that I completely agree with the conclusion he reaches that the difference between a McInsane or Obamarahma regime is negligible. I am not saying that we should support or embrace Palin or Jeb Bush or whomever they run next time. What I am saying is that our support should not come cheap, and that if the democravens run a corporatist that we should either sit it out or support a third party candidate and let the cards fall where they may. We need to be strategic eventually, running candidates where they can win and supporting them even though we don’t live in their district (I live in a purple district with little hope of a left candidate winning, but would support a progressive party candidate in my old Denver district).

>>I don’t watch SNL. Were they around? If so, they must have had a ball.

>Dana Carvey built a good part of his career playing Perot

I was actually trying to find a clip on You Tube to show you (all) earlier but the few I found weren’t working. In any case Carvey did have a field day, it was hilarious. Starting every sentence with “Can I finish??” when no one else had said a word was my favorite routine, and not really much of an exaggeration.

The point being that Perot’s well-documented clinical insanity wasn’t just offstage, he was really visibly nuts. It may have been “riveting”, but not the way Ross Douthat meant.

the “Southern Strategy” and it has worked infallibly to allow the republicans to lead stupid, bigoted Americans by the nose for almost fifty years, it convinces those stupid bigoted people to vote against they’re own economic self-interest year after year, happy to think that by supporting the republicans, they are somehow holding the line on more government give-aways to poor colored people.

Bingo! What you said in your whole comment… correct!

The Douchehat’s of the world are obligated to slither out from under the rocks they inhabit and spew forth false equivalency gibberish in order to prove…??? Unsure but the righties will agree… right on cue.

Seems like Beckerhead has jumped the shark from being Lonesome Roads to now being Elmer Gantry. Guess that’s the way he thinks he can make more money ripping these racists off. I heard Beck was encouraging the rubes to tithe… to Beck?? No doubt. And the Koch’s stood by rubbing their grubby mitts with glee: more rubes to dance to their zillionaire tunes.