While Obama speaks of this moment as an accomplishment, the Iraqi press say something quite different.
Aswat Al Iraq remains full of distressing news and even a quick glance at their headlines tells the story of a country where random and targeted violence flourishes, landmines and cluster bombs are left behind throughout the land and food insecurity remains a threat to families.
Or look at Azzaman on the continuing lack of electricity:
One best signal of how ruinous the U.S. occupation of Iraq has been is the story of electricity.
The same signal can be used to assess the ruinous policies and practices of the political factions the U.S. has helped to rule the country.
Practically, there is little or no electricity in Iraq while prior to 2003 major cities used to enjoy minimum 12 hours of non-interrupted supplies from the national grid.
…If you have never seen the inferno that results from temperatures brushing 50 degrees centigrade, you will never appreciate how critical electricity is for a country like Iraq.
Azzaman continues with the words Obama will never have the guts to speak:
U.S. combat troops have withdrawn, leaving behind a country in darkness, after spending countless of billions of dollars on combat missions that ruined cities, villages, roads and orchards and shed rivers of innocent blood.
They left behind their lackeys who are now squabbling, fighting and battling over government posts and privileges.
The fate of their ruined country and the fate of their oppressed people is none of their business.



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Yes, prepare to welcome the war dead from Afghanistan.
The “war” is over, but the “illegal” occupation remains: 49,000 military, 100,000+ u.s. funded contractors AND a billion-dollar, vatican-city size “embassy” that will require 5,000 mercenaries to defend the u.s. state {oil field allocation} dept.
If there is a common theme that encompasses the failures in Iraq, in Afghanistan and Pakistan, in the bank bailouts, in health care, in civil liberties, in whatever aspect of domestic or foreign policy one examines, it is this: systematic, in-your-face corruption. As long as the political class can receive value from the private sector (bribes, campaign contributions, whatever name they call it), corruption will prevail.
[modnote: this post went up in error, it will appear at it's proper time at 6pm PT]
We have yet to experience our true “partition of India” moment. 1865 was a reason the United States got into few overseas adventure before 1898. When we are forced to abandon our empire will be another such moment.
How many of the stateless and displaced can return to their homes now that “combat” is over. And what kind of troops have we left behind, non-combatants? I don’t think so.
I never wanted to be an Empire to begin with. I’m ashamed of it.
Aloha, Siun…!
I still fervently hope that someday Shrubco and the Poodle Blair sit in judgement at the Docket in the Hague…! After all, there is no statute of limitations for war crimes…! ;-)
another thing OBBIE wont mention
Katrina $$$ going to one of the RICHEST corps in the world EXXON MOBIL
heck they really need it
for shame,oh forgot ,shame is dead
http://www.newsweek.com/2010/08/25/gulf-redevelopment-money-has-helped-oil-companies.html
The money issued for oil infrastructure includes $1 billion for the expansion of a Marathon Oil refinery in an area that wasn’t severely damaged by the 2005 storms; $120 million for an offshore tank storage facility; and $75 million in bonds issued for improvements to an existing ExxonMobil refinery and chemical plant in Baton Rouge, according to Louisiana Bond Commission records. And on Sept. 15—exactly five years after Bush stood in a storm-battered Jackson Square and explained how the GO Zone bonds would help New Orleans—the state commission is slated to issue ExxonMobil another $300 million in untaxed loan money. The cash will pay for further improvements on the oil giant’s Baton Rouge facility.
i would like to change citizenship
im horrified at the last 20 years
4500 Special ops, that’s lot of mayhem.
50 degrees C = 122 degrees F
and we fuss at 90 with A/C
That temperature is about where I turn the AC on, mostly so I can sleep. Or drive without my eyeballs sweating.
We had some days this week that were somewhere in the neighborhood of 45C. It’s the kind of summer temperature I grew up with; it isn’t a lot of fun if you have to be outside for long, and it’s hell for plants. (And for Ghu’s sake don’t try pouring concrete in it: the concrete will be setting almost as fast as it’s being poured.)
The 49,000 troops that are remaining are literally 6 “Brigade Combat Teams”, all but the 3rd Armored Cav. Regiment has the BCT in their postal address…! 8-(
Also not so favorable to walking a great pyrenees … trust me.
I guess the renaming process skipped that step.
This speech Tuesday has got to rank very high up in the “big mistake” category for Obama. Just stupid to do. For many reasons.
Foremost, he will piss off his base, as shown in this thread.
Second, he opens himself up to those saying, with some good reason, that all he did was carry out Bush’s agreement with the Iraqi’s.
Third, and most important, he didn’t learn anything from Bush and the “mission accomplished” event. Things are volatile in Iraq. Things could get out of control again. Obama will have egg on his face when this happens after giving such a speech.
Better to let it pass. But, Obama has such an ego, he can’t pass up the opportunity to toot his horn.
He’s going to pay for it.
Btw, that was a great comment at Mondoweiss…! ;-)
Thanks CT as was yours. The whole thing has me feeling quite tired … what a mess and so dispiriting to have all our work dismissed like that. Good to have your and ET mention your great posts!
The thing that is most galling to me is that the country was so much better off under Saddam. With all the money spent, it is just stunning that it is thousands of times worse than when we arrived, just counting the Iraqi dead.
As one commenter had remarked; ‘It had a boomerang effect and FDL benefited’… *g*
I do hope a detente has been reached twixt Leen and Rayne…! *G*
Hey, you two, can we get a LINK here for us to be let in on the action?
*G*
*heh* All ya had to do was ask…! ;-)
Siun, you and those in comments . . . thanks for the updating.
There are many truths shared in your post and in comments.
I’ll only add that the MINUTE we draw down (and yes, we’re drawing down numbers wise despite the amount we’re leaving in place) that in the next 30 days or so, we’re gonna see a RESURGENCE of the INSURGENTS.
The MINUTE we stop paying the Sunni’s NOT to attack us, other factions and interests (Iran) will pay them to attack USA interests.
And, without any real country wide legitimate government control like Saddam had, every faction, tribe and person with a grudge to hold dating back to the split of Mohammed and Ali will erupt with passion and fury.
Iraq, once we invaded and took out Saddam, was headed for civil war based on ethnicity, religion, tribal and familial differences that have existed for a thousand years and more.
We let the genie out, we can’t put it back in, whether we are there or not.
Things will get MUCH worse there, before they have a hope of getting better.
My only thought is that if China and Russia (France and Germany and Japan too) get involved for resources accesss, the region might stand a chance. But with USA the only player, the region’s doomed, and so are our forces at some point.
Empire making is hell, as is war. And we are failing at both, as a nation.
We’re killing countries, and we’re killing our own, in the process.
Sigh.
Why, THANK you Sir!
Many blessings on you and family and may all your poi be seasoned properly!
*G*
Seriously, thanks, I’ve missed a lot lately it seems, regarding issues and people I care about.
Thanks.
Geez, I’m still wading thru it, and linkies.
Wow.
Don’t Phillip Weiss write for AW Dot Com regular, for years now?
CT, help me out here . . .
Teddy Partridge is upstairs!
Sunday Late Night: Look Who Else “Restored Honor” Alongside Beck & Palin
Peace to you Christina – you are well? Dubhaltach emailed me and said you wanted to question me?
Something Obama won’t say.
Finally I would like to mention that we should not forget this war was started by liars telling lies.
Let’s not forget that those who called Americans Un-American and traitors were the actual traitors lying us into war.
Nothing could be more Un-American.
Never again should we as a country be lied into an armed conflict by those who are our elected leaders.
The Justice Department will hold those liars accountable for those lies.
What on earth are you talking about? There was no split between the Prophet (PBUH) and Alī ibn Abī Ṭālib (PBUH).
Nonsense we lived together peacefully for centuries.
Ok, way too much linkies and history to wade thru, but I don’t think I have to, in order to formulate an opinion.
Thanks CT for the link!
CT, Siun, Mz. Hamsher, Rayne.
This is too weird, and not fact based shit.
I’ve read the base linky CT, and the comments.
Parts of other linky’s in Mondo’s post, parts of linky’s in comments there and comments in linky’s of linky’s.
Mondo extrapolates a lot of stuff, as does Leen (aka Kethleen Parker).
WAY too much of what I read that’s critical of Mz. Hamsher, Siun, or ET or Rayne is based on false premises fed by false premises. Snippets taken out of context, used against the person making the statements.
And then, turning it on them to paint them ugly.
Weiss, Leen, and a few others are face painting OTHERS for being exactly what they insist they are against.
Lemme sum this up, hard and nasty, and I hope Siun and FDL and Rayne and Seminal don’t mind as I do.
They are painting Mz. Jane Hamsher as Semitic Jewish supporter, painting her as a movie producer (WAS, AGES AGO! This is Jew smearing at it’s worst).
They are painting Siun and ET and Rayne in any way, shape, or form they can, to refute a factual dialogue and twist anything those say against them.
Me?
I’m calling Phillip Weiss and Leen Aka Kathleen Parker either grossly self absorbed, ignorant, and vassals to their conspiracy theories, or they are bought and paid for by the US Government, by Likud, by AIPAC, to forment unrest amongst the ranks of the left, the proggies, and those who WOULD dare to call out our relationship with Israel for what it is.
Yep, methinks they ALL protest too loudly.
And I’m suspicious as hell about THAT shit.
On the other hand, I’ve found Seminal lately, as Rayne took over, to be about as spot on as it’s ever been.
There were folks usurping truth, formenting crap, and trolling so badly just to hear their lonely bleating affirmations as people responded to them with anger, that were KILLING the forum.
As always, this is MHO.
I don’t get paid to take sides.
I love tinfoil, conspiracy. Half of them are likely true.
The time and place most of us live on and when now, is most CERTAINLY under the ironclad fists of the global wealthy and elite.
The middle class in USA is being killed.
But I’ll be DAMNED if I’ll be persuaded that Mz. Hamsher, Siun, Rayne, ET, CT, and others who run and post at this forum are somehow impeding anti Israeli dialogues because they are pro Semitic.
That’s a fuckin bridge too far, to nowhere, people.
It’s fucking hogwash.
And who the hell is Kathleen Parker, anyways, and how long has she been formenting this crap? I recall the name (not Leen) from long ago . . . was it from here at FDL? Or elsewhere? I recall, someone seeking to disrupt, more than inform.
Oh, btw, what happened to Mac? Another one of that vein.
Harumph.
I’m sorry, do I have Islamic history mistaken in some way?
Is NOT Mohammed and Ali’s split the basis for Shia and Sunni divisions?
Is NOT the death of Ali at the hands of others proscribed to Mohammed Purists?
I mean, even WIKI is pretty simply clear about this.
I don’t mind you busting my balls about it, cuz yer immersed into it, but, could you bust them a bit lighter?
Geez.
Aloha, Mohammed…! Always a pleasure…! Siun had asked Du about the plight of the Iraqi Christians, and, Du mentioned you were the go-to guy on them…! *g*
No I will not bust your balls lighter you have written complete utter and total
shitgarbage. You manifestly have not even the slightest idea of what you are talking about.Upon the death of Prophet Mohammed there were different candidates for leadership of the Ummah Abu Bakr and Alī ibn Abī Ṭālib. Abu Bakr was one of the Prophet’s (PBUH) right hand men. Alī ibn Abī Ṭālib was his son in law and successor.
There was no split between the Prophet (PBUH) and his son in law.
The split occurred after the Prophet’s )PBUH) death and was political.
Abu Bakr became the first Caliph it is related that this was because Alī ibn Abī Ṭālib was thought to be too young and inexperienced to lead the Ummah.
You should note that he did eventually become Caliph (the 4th).
That he was not the first Caliph is as you say the basis of the split between what you westerners call the Shia and the Sunni.
You cannot even get that much right and you ask me to go easy on you? No.
The plight of Christians in Irak is a disaster. The disaster is unfolding slightly slower at present than it was a two months ago but followers of Prophet Isa (PBUH) are subject to intimidation, attacks, and kidnapping on a routine indeed daily basis.
No. His death it is laid firmly on the shoulders of the man who killed him Abd-al-Rahman ibn Muljam who was a member of a cult called the Kharajites. Both the faction who became the Shia and the faction who became the Sunni opposed the Kharajites as the considered the Kharajites to be a “heretical cult*”.
* Here I have to use an unsatisfactory translation as the Arabic word does not translate well into your language.
Ya know, I don’t think me and Wiki are that far off the truth as you propose to share it.
I don’t think, I’m that far off the reality.
But you want to bust my ass and belabor me cuz I’m not a fucking scholar of something you are.
And your position, to skewer me, and lump me in with all the rest you despise, and openly hate, is maddening.
You do me, nor your cause, no justice to turn away those who would support you.
And this is why, try as I might, tend to turn from you and your positions.
I can read. I can be informed. I can take a position, and I can easily with MY code of conduct and morality, determine what I think is moral and not.
You, can only belittle me, my attempts to embrace your positions.
I’m fucking agnostic, but if there were gods, and Allah was one, he’d not think well of your complaint of my supposed ignorance and stupidity.
You ain’t persuading me.
I am FULLY aware of what USA has done to other countries, faiths, and such in its time on this planet.
And you care and take time to lecture me, and question my solidarity with you, your cause, and your beliefs?
You want to hear my story someday? How MY parents were . . . we were betrayed by our government.
You want to hear that? About my time raised as a child in SE Asia, speaking 5 languages before 12?
You wanna hear my story?
We talk that shit offline.
Anytime.
Sorry for your anger to all westerners, but hoss, you ain’t the ONLY one on this planet been fucked over by the powers that be.
And you ain’t the only care worker spent a lifetime to date trying to save others in ugly places.
So get OVER yourself.
Your anger and fears keep you from understanding that others have that anger and fear, too.
You are BLINDED by your anger and fear, to a point you don’t know friend from foe.
I’m 57, I’ll bet yer 25-30.
You’ll learn. Of that, I’m sure. Aging is an interesting process.
A learning one.
*G*
And as I know it, from Wiki, WHO was it that cajoled and paid the assasian, to kill Ali?
Who was it that funded this deed?
Follow the money.
You have me at a great disadvantage, as I don’t read the Koran, or the Bible.
I only know what I read from OTHER sources.
And I greatly distrust anyone who cites as fact, the fictions of the Koran, or Bible. First or Second Testament.
Because those tomes were writ for control and capture of the masses.
They were stories, fiction, and meant to impose control over we the people, be we white, brown, black, yellow, or red.
Your fictions are as leery to me, as the Christian fictions.
And there, we depart fully, from reality as I know it.
Sorry.
I’m agnostic.
I take back as unduly offensive the word in strike through. But I will repeath that to say there was a division between the prophet and his son-in-law which is what you wrote is complete total and absolute nonsense. It is about as accurate as stating that George Washington commanded the British forces fighting the American colonists seeking independence during the American war of independence.
It is not a question of my being a scholar and you not being one it is a question of your making an absolutely ridiculous statement.
“… terror is primarily a weapon of the powerful.” _Noam Chomsky
The first republic ended at Appomattox. The constitution without federalism is already not the constitution. And that document certainly did not anticipate Bush or Obama as Napoleon. The empire has run its course. But there is no going back. We will have to go forward to a second republic.
Yeah, and you want these same people to run our health care, corporations and schools. I’m scared!
So we are leaving the place worse off than when we found it? Every kindergartner knows this is bad manners.
Aimlow Joe was here.
http://www.aimlow.com