John be here. John is also baking cookies, so I may disappear for a few minutes.

To answer the obvious question: there is no weed in them, just deliciousness.

jane! and welcome john!

Howdie folks.

Thanks so much for being here John, and for letting us watch the film.

When did you start making it?

Hey Suzanne. How are you tonight?

Hey Suze, I’m on my new MacBook tonight :-)

Gettin’ “High” with Jane at Late Night! Good old times indeed….

Hello, John, thanks for chatting tonight, what’s in yer cookies?

Thank you for being here, John. Cannot watch at the moment, as my ‘puter is in the same room as the tv where a movie just started. But, I’ll watch when I can. Thank you Jane.

i’m doing well jane, thank you. how are ya doing tonight? seems like old times with you hosting :)

I began planning it in 2004 or thereabouts, so roughly a year after high school. It wasn’t until about 2005 that production got underway thanks to my financier, Bob Schubring, the executive producer.

Why many wonderful things! If you want, here’s the recipe.

Can’t stay, but big kudos to Mz. Hamsher and all of FDL for the tokin push.

And Bless and Thank Tonight’s Guest on this thread.

Wish I could smoke or eat.

But till then, Just Say Now!

*G*

Oh, and thanks very much for having me! This will be my third comment-off on FDL. Though it’s only 8 PM here, so it’s not so very Late Nite.

It does seem like old times. Hangin’ out with the pooches tonight…I know, I know, highly unusual.

Bless you young man! I have nothing but respect for right-out-there stand-takers/film-makers.

A most excellent film.

tis late for those east coast types…. john, what kind of resistance did you get when filming? did you find people hesitant or were they happy to cooperate?

*waves!*

Hi Kelly! So what are we going to do about this Colorado situaiton in 2012, hmm?

Most of the resistance during the filmmaking process came from the opposite end of the spectrum. John Walters, former head of the ONDCP (Office of National Drug Control Policy), the DEA, and other organizations that opposed drug reform refused to talk to me.

The refusal from Walters was my favorite, however. I called the ONDCP and essentially said that I’d meet with him anytime, anyplace, any date within a six month window, and I’d only need about an hour of his time, including setup. They said they’d get back to me in two weeks. Two weeks go by, and nada, so I rang them back. I re-submitted my request, waited another two weeks, then called back again.

They said he’s unavailable for interviews due to him being in Hawaii doing ONDCP-related things. In Hawaii for how long I wasn’t told, but since I was willing to meet him in the arctic if needed, and said “anytime within six months,” I’m betting he just didn’t want to talk to me.

So, Jane, please tell us what this tag is all about?

Tags: Sanctimonious & Greedy Ivy League brats

How long did it take you to shoot? And what kind of a crew/equipment did you have at your disposal?

Department of Redundancy Department

what a lily-livered chickenshit *eyes rolling*

How could he even know what you had planned for your film? Kirby Dick talks about keeping ‘under the radar’ so folks don’t get an inkling of what a movie is about while it’s in production. Were you able to do that? Or did people you wanted to interview presume you had an opinion about pot?

Shooting was a bit random, as different people were available at different times. All told it took about three months to get all the interviews we wanted.

We used a Panasonic DVX-100A, which was top of the line on the prosumer market back in 2005. Alas, no readily-available HD camcorders in our budget range.

As for the crew, just me and Bob.

I dunno. I’m a dumbass, and couldn’t call this season’s primary correctly. I will say the weed thing is VERY interesting and RIGHT NOW.

The Gov, Ritter, just came out with “we’re gonna use all the weed money”

Oh! How ever did that get in there. I have absolutely no idea.

Mods? Cleanup in the post tags.

Must have some pissed off gremlins in the system who don’t like having a bunch of twenty-something Ivy League billionaires lecture them about their decision to smoke marijuana or not. As if they never have themselves — just don’t want the rabble to get “out of control” and all.

But that’s just a guess.

That’s awesome. I love the imaginative use of found footage. Makes it very lively and fun.

Whoa! How resourceful – that is unbelievable with the result you achieved!

(facepalm – can’t believe how uncreative I actually am)

edit; That was supposed to be at John @25

Hello John…welcome! …and thank you for the movie…
and kudos and ‘high’ praise to you Jane!

I always presented myself as a documentary filmmaker who was making a movie about the war on drugs. For the people who would be more sympathetic to my particular opinions on the war on drugs, I was more open with, but I never misled anyone either way.

As for how he knew what I had planned, he rarely gave interviews, so I’m not surprised he avoided me. I’d imagine because I wasn’t readily available in the FBI database for trusted people (or at least people who had donated to like-minded politicians), then he ignored me.

Remember to say their names opposite-ly, as Jon Stewart counsels:

SpiderMan becomes Spiderman, as in “We’re having the Spidermans over for dinner again, and you’re serving blintzes for dessert again, Agnes?”

Or, alternativly:

“ZuckerMan, ZuckerMan, does whatever a Zucker can….”

Why thank you! That was more out of necessity than what I wanted. There were many places I would have liked more contemporary music (or at least slightly more well-known), but didn’t get it due to the budget.

However, the Dick Justice song, “Cocaine” was a real find for the credits. Public domain and fit the topic perfectly.

Somebody’s going to be in for a big surprise.

People who really really know drug policy (like Kleiman at The Reality Based Community) say the numbers don’t add up. I’m a pretty quantitative guy, and I believe Mark’s analysis.

yes ma’am

fixed

I know I am in the minority here on most aspects of this subject but I feel the need to have my say. Heck it’s free speech. :-)

I am sorry but I think this is promoting the use of an illegal substance and not so much presenting more rational arguments for why it should be legalized. Such as the observed fact that criminalization leads to crime and does not appreciably decrease its use. The fact that legalization would make the substance come under government law and oversight and provide revenue. The terrible cost of the drug war not just in dollars to our country but the destabilization of Latin American governments and more.

I do not have time tonight to view the entire movie but it begins with some misinformation and frankly an adolescent rebellion message.

I do support legalization but please consider a more mature and thoughtful approach to campaigning for the proposition.

Aloha, John, Jane, and ya’ll…! How ironic… I’d just had some of the local flora before I’d fired up the computer…! ;-)

Some of us don’t smoke pot but think people should be respected and allowed to make that decision for themselves.

Others smoke pot and think they should be able to dictate whether people can be trusted to handle so much as a conversation about that choice responsibly.

http://beforeitsnews.com/story/1/038/Facebook_CEO_Mark_Zuckerberg_Pics_with_Pot_Pipe.html

No names.

I never thought about the surveillance database being useful to them about scheduling interviews with filmmakers, but I suppose they probably knew your entire schedule and interviewees before they made a decision to blow you off.

Yes I loved a lot of the PD music you found. That’s hard to do. Great job.

Well I always appreciate contrary opinions, I’ve certainly run into plenty of them.

However, I must strongly disagree with your assertion that this is promoting the use of an illegal substance. Not once in the entirety of the film do I promote, encourage, or otherwise say that people should smoke marijuana. My personal opinion is much of what Keith Stroup says in the opening, which is that it’s a choice that adults should be free to make if they wish.

And what misinformation are you referring to?

Stick, Stick, Stick – gay marriage isn’t legal right now either.

It’s about moving the issues across the legal line; the ones that make sense.

There’s no good reason that gays can’t marry, and no good reason that weed is illegal.

Ban divorce, ban alcohol and you get a consistent position; otherwise, not so much.

*ouch* That had to have left a mark…! ;-)

Oh look, the cookies are done!

Some of us never got over our adolescent rebellion and are happy to see it reflected occasionally in art and political speech. Better yet, together!

Justifiably so…don’t ya think!

Just in time, too!

Oh, were those, um, to share?

I always thought that rebellion and dissent were the glue of democracy in action!

MJ just puts me to sleep.

Alcohol is my drug of choice.

To that criticism, this was planned and executed about year or two after I graduated high school, and I wanted to reflect the disillusionment I had with the war on drugs as it had been presented to me for so long, something I felt a lot of people could relate to. Obviously TalkingStick didn’t, and that’s fine.

Disclaimer: I’m not a cannabis user, so I don’t have a dog in this fight.

A relevant part of the question is how did cannabis become an illegal substance. The answer (in part) is that cannabis became illegal as a component of the Jim Crow regime in the South. That program spread nationally.

My personal preference is to decriminalize cannabis rather to create a new industry around it. I don’t think we will do well by creating another large industry (like tobacco, liquor, pharma, banking) to lobby our legislatures for special benefits. Cannabis isn’t difficult to grow anywhere in the country. If you want it, you can grow it. There will be a low-level trade, and I can live with that. It will be untaxed, and I can live with that too. Just so it’s not creating another big corporate lobby.

I find dope to be rather passe’ these days. Not that I use hard or any drugs, I just don’t.

The real story is that I am not a smoker, and as I get older, mary jane gives me a hacking cough and the high is no longer worth it. The beauties I was privy to when I did smoke are still all there without smoking. I don’t regret a single toke, but I don’t need another either. So, let the law die.

BTW, nice to see you modding this thread Jane!

:: drive-by ::

Jane, you rawk! I don’t get the chance to interact with you “live” that often, just wanted to say thanks for all you do :-)

The Band I roadied for starting in 1968, The Sons of Champlin, recorded “Get High” on their seminal 1969 album, “Loosen Up Naturally.”

Here they are playing it in San Diego recently.

Is there something goofy going on with the comment reply (dys)function tonight?

Fortunately, in this case I think that while I’m sure there would be “brands” that would eventually spring up, there are enough grow ops that exist which could easily transition to non-medicinal levels of growth that it would provide a great deal of competition and variety to a legalized marketplace.

sometimes the reply button won’t work until the entire page is loaded. if the page is loading slowly for you, try clearing your cache and see if that helps

It’s almost 10% of his deficit – and it’s only medical revenues, don’t tell me other Govs aren’t dreaming of surpluses dancing in their heads

Good Evening Jane and Firedogs – Welcome Back John Holowach !

and that young man from Gawker nailed it

Hey Jane and Thanks John for the film and the recipe (I approve of the real vanilla requirement!)

I’d also posit that DuPont and Dow, early on, played a big role in banning hemp and/or cannabis…

John….have not viewed the entire movie, and plan to, but age wise can you break it down quickly as to what age group gave you the most feedback? ( I think I know, but needed to ask)

I live in the PNW and the thought of getting shot because I stumbled on a pot plantation somewhere in the Mt. Hood National Forest or the like puts me to rout! Pisses me off mightily, to say the least!

Those of us who had our view (and consumption level) of drugs already well underway before Nancy Reagan came along will never quite have the understanding young people do of being lied to about drugs. It’s just like the sexual divide between generations of American gay men over AIDS: if you didn’t experience life before it, you’ll never understand how it was.

For young people inundated with those awful, lie-filled 1980s messages about drug use, particularly the lies about pot, it’s very difficult to see the truth in anything the government says, I would imagine. I appreciate your voice in this discussion, John, and I hope it reaches many people your age.

Well, I’ve been refraining a bit, as I don’t want to be a thread hog. But now, I’m just going to go for it.

John/Jane – doesn’t the Netherlands and Portugal really spell out the idiocy of our current US policy? And how about your opinions on Glenzilla’s Portugal work?

You to, LL, good to see you.

Glenzilla’s Portugal paper is a must-read. I got to see him present it at Cato. It was amazing. A real eye-opener.

And then we had sandwitches in the lobby.

And, HELLO WORLD, if Colorado can tolerate dispensaries, is the rest of the Rocky Mountain West far behind? I don’t think so.

My reply function seems ok — heh, I just got my MacBook Pro last week. In love…

Overall feedback was from the 16 – 30 age group, as probably expected. However I noticed that people over the age of 50 tended to be surprised and shocked by a lot of what they didn’t know, or had completely forgotten, about marijuana and the war on drugs.

Wow, Sons of Champlin. Don’t hear about them much any more.

Heh!

You got to walk in the rain in NYC with Glenn and Daniel Ellsberg – one of my fave photos of all time btw – I demand to know the sandwich types! If you tell me ham on ryes, I will just die laughing!

Welcome to the cult, dear….

As mentioned in the film, the Netherland’s rate for teenage use of marijuana (and all other drugs) is significantly less than the US (I don’t have the numbers in front of me, but it precedes the prison abuse segment, I believe it’s 28% vs 42%). Hard drug use is quite a bit lower as well.

And yes, current US drug policy is idiotic, but I think of it kind of like a train. We keep running over people that have laid down in front of the tracks, but if the train stops then so does $60 billion a year in funding and tens of thousands of jobs (likely millions if you count the police employed mostly to arrest drug offenders), so we keep running over the bodies because that’s all we know how to do.

And that’s exactly what I want to avoid. I’m not interested in seeing price competition, nor breeding research to develop Carlin’s no-toke shit. I’m not interested in the development of yet-another-difficult-to-control legislative lobby.

To CT: that’s unclear to me. I was told (and believe it, too) that a lot of the ditch weed in the midwest was spread from hemp plantings during WW II. duPont and Dow were not in the synthetic fiber industry in a big way until after the war. Now, I can easily believe that they worked behind the scenes in the post-war years to keep hemp plantings down and promoting their market for synthetic fibers.

…For young people inundated with those awful, lie-filled 1980s messages about drug use, particularly the lies about pot…

*heh* I graduated in ’85 and those ‘This is your brain’ adverts would just make me hungry for some fried eggs…! ;-)

Mine came in today. I’m using it now :-)

I so agree. Really, my nickel bag in 1970 as compared to the same amount my friend bought in the late 1980′s cost over $100.00! What? How could the same shit cost five dollars in 1970 and one hundred dollars less than twenty years later? That was crazy to me.

It was snowing. Lightly.

And I like grilled vegetables on panini.

Aaaaiiieee!

See, the simple way I say it is, harm reduction begins with not denying a problem.

This is so with HIV/AIDS.
This is so with heroin.
This is so with meth.

This is so with SO MANY things. And weed is the least harmful of so much of the harm we need to reduce. Maddening to me.

I was a college student in California in the ’70s. We got the full dose of Just Say No. Even then, even-handed research revealed that the ban on cannabis was not justified by the facts. If we were starting from scratch and looking at psychotropics, alcohol is a lot easier to justify banning than is cannabis.

It isn’t just gay males that have a before/after AIDS divide, Teddy. I was working in a support role in a public health department at the height of the scare. There is a big before/after thing in whole PH community.

Why did I resist for so long? The cult is real, just ask my family. heh heh

We set it up in 15 minutes. Heaven.

And yeah, this thing is lovely. The display is beautiful, the keyboard is the nicest thing I’ve typed on since I had to give up my IBM keyboard a few years ago. OS-X is taking some getting used to, but other than that, I’m in serious like with this computer.

On a serious note, I do think we need to stop Meth in it’s tracks…! 8-(

Is it sick that I like to watch Craig Ferguson?

It took me a little longer, because it wasn’t recognizing our wireless network. I finally had to get Wireless Networks for Dummies out and got it figured out.

The backlit keyboard is the seducer.

And now, for my next hat trick, Thai sweet sticky rice with mango.

Don’t worry, the cookies are safely cooling and will be consumed on other occasions. That would be ridiculously gluttonous otherwise.

Mmmm, gluttonous…

Craig Ferguson is awesome and don’t let anyone tell you differently!

I have proof.

Meth is probably the most dangerous street drug around today. It’s scary easy to make, the environmental damage of making it outside a real.laboratory is disastrous, and its long-term effects on users are even worse than the environmental damage.

ok, now i’m officially jealous. and coveting.

You would LOVE my Festival Sandwich then!

It’s one of those pressed Italian-type sandwiches, but enormous, to go on a buffet.

I’ll leave out the sopressata and such meats, but it’s a winner; caramelized onions, olives, roasted eggplant, cherry tomatoes, etc. Yummm!

*heh* You don’t even want to know what today’s rates are, M’dear…! Trust me…! ;-)

I’m a touch-typist, and I hadn’t noticed the backlighting on the keyboard.

No, he’s funny!
Thanks for doing this, Jane.

You must be having some serious munchies, Dood…! *g*

I’m all for the legalization of marijuana. I read years ago that the tobacco farmers were waiting to fill their fields with it, just waiting for legalization. And to me it makes sense. Especially for medical usage, and then some.

I find cooking to be a rather relaxing process. Something about the act of creating good food just makes it easy to get into it. In fact, I’m disappointed so many males in my generation only know some basics of cooking (mostly involving microwaving things until they are steaming).

And I’m quite good, if I do say so myself. Earlier it was roast chicken with Yukon gold potatoes. That was a lovely dinner, so now I’m having this for dessert.

Twenty more years! Oh, I don’t need to know, that is, until I have cancer.

Got pulled away from the keyboard John but wanted to say:

And yes, current US drug policy is idiotic, but I think of it kind of like a train. We keep running over people that have laid down in front of the tracks, but if the train stops then so does $60 billion a year in funding and tens of thousands of jobs (likely millions if you count the police employed mostly to arrest drug offenders), so we keep running over the bodies because that’s all we know how to do.

You make an emphatically important point John! I am near 65 years old and definitely a child of the sixties with all that encompasses (yes-consumption of substances), but when I talk to peers or those younger than me, I don’t concentrate on personal usage, pro or con, but rather emphasize the point you make above. This is at the core of why I support the Just Say Now campaign…it is a matter of defending people’s rights to choose, and to put a stop to the criminalization/prison/prohibition triangle!

Thank you and Jane for this important effort!

Cooking has this sort of healing thing about it. 1) It heals you from the day, 2) it can really heal you.

My chef friend in Seattle swears by these weed truffles he makes; with hot peppers.

They are totally awesome. I’ve named them the “Mayan Truffles.” The capsicum, chocolate and cannibinoids work fantastically together for, say, arthritics. Just fabtastic.

Heh. Well, let’s just say I heard much of Craig’s material before he ever made it on TV and leave it at that.

I’ve been looking at MrCE’s keyboard for years, lusting after one so wonderfully aglow. We are both pretty good traditional typists.

Wow! Fabulous.

I heard of a recipe for marijuana milk that was dubbed “Lon Lon Milk,” after the famous brand in Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time, courtesy of someone on /r/trees on reddit.

Thanks for sharing this film here. Most appreciated.

Citizen Suzanne:

Hey there Sister Sweetcakes, are ya gunna spin the tunes tanight?

Uh oh Christine…you may becoming a Mac evangelista!

Ms. Dell is going to become a print-and-file server, I think. I’m not sure I could bear the feel of that Latitude keyboard after three hours with this one.

hey norske — i sure am. gotta real shaker lined up for tonight…

I fear you are correct…

We can haz cookie n panini and weed?

*G*

Ms. Dell here is sitting, cleansed of trojan virus, upstairs waiting for a lover that may never arrive.

Citizen Hamsher:

Yo Sister Jane, what’s the prospect of the Marijuana Initiative havin a determining effect on the statewide elections in California…are the Dems gunna snatch defeat from the jaws of victory on this one too…can it drive turnout?

BargainCountertenor..

my experience with Dells were that the keyboard keys were kind of elevated and needed a very defined pressing…the Mac Pro Book’s keyboard is much flatter and requires a lighter touch as you indicated.

I have the strangest feeling that people in this thread will appreciate this.

N while we iz waitin . .

It’s Been A While

*G*

Cuz, all that shit seems to disappear when I’m with you.

*G*

If you’re going to cook with cannabis, it should be treated more or less like chocolate. The cooking temps are muy compatible as regards not destroying the cannibinoids. Kinda like butter!

And like other herbs. HELLO? Do you want giant sticks of basil in your bruschetta? NO! It’s LEAVES! Pick the product nicely!

/endcookrant

Gonna burn the house down huh Suz?

if ya don’t want it anymore, there should be a shelter or other charitable organization that would appreciate it.

Thanks to you too Margot, good to see you.

s’okay, a few months back, I went from a 5 year old desk top to a Mac Book Pro – we are all but inseparable :D

*innocent look*

Yes, and I’ve been thinking about that. For a while, I’ll keep it in the guest bedroom for MsCE or Jack, in case they want to use it. If not used in six months, Dell is going to look for another home.

Nothing you do is sick, dear.

Even the wrong things aren’t sick, per se.

I haven’t seen any numbers on that, Norske. It doesn’t help that the top of the ticket for the D’s have all come out against Prop 19.

I don’t know what you’ve posted, or done in yer kitchen.

But I’ve heard:

Melt whole butter, stir in weed, mix it up.

Save to side.

Cut it into all yer fav recipes.

I’m here to tell ya, as I’ve heard, this butter will make brownies that will make ya fall down and crawl.

So, all of yas, be fore warned.

Only eat one.

*G*

And don’t drink on top of it.

And don’t go near that river.

Especially if the banks slope hard.

Really, ‘specially.

*G*

*G*

Almost 5 year old Dell too, but laptop so wonderful to take on vacation. I will take Suzanne’s suggestion seriously.

Perhaps before the Dell goes in for hibernation, you could always pull the hard drive out of it and buy an enclosure and use it as a secondary backup drive…that way you get some use until you put it out for adoption!

N Bless Mz. Hamsher, and da Poodles.

‘Specially.

*G*

I don’t smoke anymore for ages, because of testing.

But dang, if any issue can open doors, this one can.

Course, the money changers will own it thru the corporate fascist politicians.

We’ll have NEW challenges, then, too.

I guess it’s all inevitable and endless.

We the people, struggle.

LeSigh.

Whomever bet that this thread would be talking about Mac and Dell computers 90 minutes in, you win the pool.

Thanks for the suggestion, but really, I only keep a laptop to be here on FDL, email my family and friends. Unlike MrCE, I don’t work at home much beyond blogs and searching library catalogs.

HELLO? Do you want giant sticks of basil in your bruschetta? NO! It’s LEAVES! Pick the product nicely!

*heh* No sticks, no stems that we don’t need…! ;-)

Killin me.

Sticks?

No one uses sticks unless for skewering and grilllin.

OR smokin.

And that was LONG ago.

It’s Been A While.

Since All My Shit’s Fucked Up!

(read the woids, hoss)

*G*

Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. I posted some policy stuff above. But this is late night, and off-topic is on-topic.

Give it another 15 minutes John, and we will probably be talking about one toke too many and jumpin in the pool naked!

There’s a lot of amateur brownies out there. Just saying. :)

“Acapulco Gold?”

*G*

“Ain’t got no stems nor seeds,
Alapulco Gold is bad ass weed.”

*G*

Name that song, bong and band, hoss!

LMBO!

Understood…I am just the opposite…almost all my workings are at home and predominantly on the computer which is a MacPro tower!

Oh no – do NOT make me repeat my TSA story from last week. Suz will choke.

Now I feel geeky, sorry mates. But, but I do support legislation for legalization of marijuana.

Don’t forget ‘Panama Red’ dood!

My #135 was flawed, now refixed.

Kelly.

*G*

Kelly, now you have to tell.

Breaking: McCain wins Arizona GOP primary.
Hayworth supporters Country Bear Jamboree alumni everywhere are despondent.

the muppets even

I’ll bring the bubble bath. Bubble pool, WOO!

Don’t know if anybody posted this, yet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEg9FbuaSCk&feature=search

*heh* One toke over the line…! ;-)

Aw Kelly…it can’t be all that bad or I will have to dig through the archives…as long as Suz does not choke!

i do not choke.

i just get even :)

Suzanne, you may be required to dive.

john — what’s your next project?

As he quietly and innocently backs away from his keyboard!

Best I Could Find

Sadly, no youtubes of Old N In The Way . . .

A few nights at The Boarding House, in ’71.

And the glory of Old N In The Way Albums.

LeSigh.

*G*

Heh. She means she’ll just get even/hold it against me later. Which is fine with me! I’m un-blackmail-able.

(backlit)

I watched them for a few years all thru Bay Area Bars in the late 60′s and early 70′s.

LORD they were kewl!

Nice catch VMT!

*G*

‘Rainy Daze’ ’65… :–)

We’re achingly close to getting financing for a feature film project called Breakwater. More than that I can’t say, other than it’s a multi-million dollar project, so I’m quite excited about it.

On the other hand, you might never hear about it again. Such is the stability of Hollywoodland.

Yeah, one of my favorites. :-)

(shadows cast forward)

*G*

Key light bright. Behind.

*G*

WRONG!

*G*

Actually, I don’t recall WHO used that line!

OMG!

Failing dead memory cells.

Something outta Zap Comics, no doubt.

But I KNOW I heard it, and read it, somewhere.

LOL

wow. i’ve got my fingers and toes crossed it all comes together john.

Larue,
I’ve never baked with leaves or stems. Cornbread with leaves, ever?

I’m un-blackmailable

You must teach us these things Obi-Won…

Good night, ‘pups.

Mr. Natural…what a hoot!

We would love to know about it, nonetheless. Happy to have you here, and thank you.

g’nite bct — congrats on the new machine

G’nite BargainCountertenor!

Just keep the racy pics off Facebook and make sure nobody knows about those bodies and where you buried them and you should be fine.

Believe me, if it happens, you’ll hear about it. ;-)

2 things –

1 – Blog in your own name
2 – Gulp hard when what you’ve said is thrown back at you; and the person is RIGHT!

Then, you’re un-blackmail-able and can talk about crap like your cock ring like I did. :)

Yes John…it is a pleasure to meet you and share time with you. Thanks much!

Best of Luck, Mi Amigo…! 8-)

Well folks, it’s been fun and enlightening, but I think I’m gonna sign off for the evening.

Thanks to FDL for this opportunity and for hosting the embed of the film for a week, thanks to Jane for moderating, and thanks to everyone who asked and commented.

Good night, everyone!

Ya just gotta admire the bravado…! My money is on Suz, tho…! ;-)

Advice received…thank you Kelly!

g’nite john and thank you so very much. i’ve enjoyed the film and am looking foward to seeing more of your work.

Great new LA Times piece about the ever-changing positions of Facebook: http://bit.ly/boS0B3

Thanks for doing this, John. I will try to watch/listen it, but my 75 year old ears have a difficult time with all movies and documentaries with back ground conversation, footsteps, music and other sound effects that don’t bother young ears but make it almost painful for us.

We sorely need the votes of us old people for this and I wish all makers of important video would make it more likely we oldsters will tune in.

Thanks again.

G’nite John…and thank you again…

Thanks so much for everything, John. Really enjoyed the documentary, as I know people will all week. And we’re looking forward to hearing news of the follow up, so keep us posted.

Grind it up in a processor, use it.

Eat it, gently.

*G*

Wow, they can’t keep their story straight, can they?