
courtesy of Teh Sadly
Think the Teabaggers are pushing the GOP towards a more secular, libertarian brand of politics?
Then you should look at this post by CNN contributor Erick Erickson, defending Franklin Graham for claiming that Obama was “born a Muslim.” It’s a helpful reminder of just how interwoven the conservative movement still is with fundamentalist Evangelical Christianity.
By faith and history, Franklin Graham understands that there is only one way, one Truth, and one life. No one goes to the Father except through Jesus Christ. No one.
That is what our faith teaches us.
Sorry, Eric Cantor, William Kristol, and Charles Krauthammer! You’ll all be joining Gandhi in hell very soon.
…about Barack Obama’s faith — it is clear when he was enrolled in school in Indonesia his parents listed his faith as Islam. The New York Times, in 2008, buttressed that.
Notice there’s no link.
That’s because a) Obama’s mother and step-father never did that; b) Obama attended several schools in Indonesia, including a Catholic one, and; c) The Times has extensively debunked the Faux News/wingnut “madrassa” meme.
Great hire, CNN!



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Thanks, and get after it…..F. Graham should be ashamed….for lying, of course, since there is nothing wrong with being Muslim.
Erick Erickson lying tell me when has he told the truth? That would be news.
I thought they were trying to recreate the Hitler Youth…. with old White Guys.
Yet CNN still has him on the payroll? CNN news or propaganda the answer is obvious and people wonder why nobody watches the news.
It is a sure sign of the desperation of the right wing that they have to depend on the ignorance of people like franklyn graham and this jerk. Good move, CNN. Your stupidity is a factor why I haven’t watched CNN for years.
I suspect I’m going to get tired of calling these people bigots long before they get tired of being such.
Right, thru that same J.Christ that taught his followers about bearing false witness. Of course, the greatest sin is denial of his god. How exactly does that fit in with telling us that some one who publicly professes his belief and embrace of that god just doesn’t do it for him? Unless he truly repent, then, Erick knows his works and lack of faith are going to hell with him.
Your faith also teaches you to sell all your property and give the proceeds to the poor, doesn’t it, Erick?
Wait so George Washington, Ben Franklin etc the Founding Fathers who insisted on separating Church and State are going to hell now?
The not-very-rich wingnuts hate the Constitution and try to destroy all but the second amendment and a fake belief in it. The wingnuts want a fascist, theocratic, “Christian,” nation constantly at war to enrich the rich to be even richer, all the while believing that they will join that elite in the sweet bye and bye. The rich want the same thing, but they know that if they can control the government and the rules, there will be very little chance that any of the poor will be able to rise economically to gain more than the wages that the rich are willing to pay. The not-very-rich wingnuts will then have no voice in government other than to go along wondering who the new enemy is.
That lying sack of shit!!!
No.
This has been another edition…
Would Jane accept Erick’s job if CNN ever wanted to do their shareholders a favor and regain their Cred?
Would you want to be the next person to sit in a chair vacated by Erick “Mouthfart” Erickson?
One of the sad truths is if the rest of the Constitution is destroyed, that second amendment really won’t protect them all that much
I’d burn the chair problem solved.
http://www.redstate.com/erick/2010/08/22/by-faith-i-am-proud-of-franklin-graham/
” All these People” does he mean illegal immigrants “they admitted that they were aliens and strangers on earth.” I think he is referring to illegal immigrants.
What did a sack of shit ever do to you?
Erik (or Graham) say that the Imam is on the State Department payroll. Is that true?
I am with you.But goosh! I guess some people have no shame nor conscience….and how about CNN ? the people they hire race baiters Bill Bennett,Beck & now this Erickson….this is the guy who wanted to shoot census workers with his wife’ shot gun if they came on his property…
My goodness me! this is the kind of people they put on their network.
But amazingly,I have seen Donna Brazille appearing on the CNN set with these creeps….Now think if she had any integrity…well why would you want to be on a CNN set with race baiters…..I guess the money will make people do things ‘eh….This says more about people like Brazille,Paul Begala & others more than it does about the racists CNN hires.
The question is begged…Who cares and what difference does it make if Obama was a muslim, anyway? Jeez! (The Mr.’s parents said he was catholic on a school application to get a break on tuition. Parents will say all kinds of stuff to get their kids settled in a good school.)
Freedom to be tortured, Freedom to be threatened to be raped, freedom to watch their women and children die from bombs in the sky waiting for America to rebuild their country a rebuilding that never comes.
” Freedom is Nothing Left to Lose” Janis Joplin
Erick and Franklin Graham really might want to donate all their wealth to the poor before they claim to preach in Jesus’s name.
You just don’t get it because you aren’t a wingnut bigot.
Man, that motherfucker makes it damn near impossible to comment! I actually went there and registered, using my “only for nutjobs” screen name and e-mail account and went through the “wait for the e-mail” process for logging in, and then got this:
This pisses me off. I’m now going to torment that asshole daily. Well, until I’m banned, that is…
Agreed nobody should appear on Erick’s show it demeans anyone on our side to lend their Cred by being on the same screen as any of those Racists.
the man’s a piece of shit.
Yeah, hippies are so clueless. I oughtta shower and go to church.
I disagree; never abandon the field of battle! By doing so, one surrenders.
I still can’t believe CNN hired that idiot. They’ve really gone down hill lately.
And
Donna Brazille should only be seen on GritTV and heard on KPFA, for example? You are stating that Donna Brazille has no integrity because she appears on CNN. Personally, I would pay attention to what she says on such shows, if I were watching them, rather than piously claim she is preaching from the wrong pulpit. I think there is an old dialictic in play here about reaching out and engaging in polemics in practical ways if you would reach a wide audience.
Franklin’s still peeved that Obama disinvited him to speak at the Pentagon on the National Day of Prayer (which in itself is offensive on so many levels).
Yeah. Why don’t they call it the National Day of God. There is always so much talk about how prayer, religion and faith make everyone such rocks of the community. It is just a way of saying if you don’t believe in God you don’t play ball and you can’t lead. Is there one honest aethiest in Congress. Just askin.
Never watched him can a Dem a real Dem get a fair shake or will they be shouted over, outnumbered, cut to commercial etc.
You beat me to it. Another way of saying it is:
When an open atheist is elected to Congress, I’ll believe the “religious test” finally has not, for the first time, been applied.
Depends on the Dem. Look at Grayson.
So what he doesn’t pass my total “purity” test. Nobody ever will, so I won’t abandon them all. I’d end up curling up in a little ball, supporting no one, ever.
Grayson has stones, and I like that about him.
Um, isn’t Pete Stark openly atheist?
Does CNN ever cover the issues even in their regular programming that the majority of Americans care about most, fairly? I don’t recall us getting to present our case for National Healthcare nope the Public Option was the Obama and Media default position.
On the economy, jobs, etc we never get our case heard.
Yeah, over the years I’ve felt fortunate if I could find a pol that might support the specific things I like 50% of the time. Most fall short of that.
I’m not going to be all that upset at the guy that hits it 60% of the time.
Fine depends on the Dem.
I have probably misrembered the aphorism and I have completely forgotten the the name of the author, but “a communist is someone who manages to state the truth prior to being shot.” Not that DB is or wants to be a communist, but substitue the word “antidote to BS,” or “defier of Murcdoch,” or “not-a-complete-toady” and you may get my drift.
Good old Pete. Might be so. I used to see him in the elevator, decades ago before I knew he was a national treasure.
gasp!
Oh, thanks for that reminder. My my my, a Christian wouldn’t hold a grudge about something like that, now would he? Whatever happened to ‘turn the other cheek.’ /s
I’m not quite sure how disinviting someone who preaches hatred and bigotry is offensive… But then I’m just one of those Christians who believes in “do unto others,” and “as ye have done to the least of them ye have done unto me.”
Case fully heard on TV? ROATFLMAO! TV is not about cases, unless you can state your case in in an eye blink.
Seeing Ericson on TV makes me long for the wingnuts of old. Remember Joe Pyne?
Famous exchange between Frank Zappa and Pyne:
Pyne: “So I guess your long hair makes you a woman.”
Zappa: “So I guess your wooden leg makes you a table!”
You actually can on a surprisingly wide range of subjects. I did it when I worked on Wall St and did instant analysis of econ stats on cable biz channels, right after they were released at 8:30am. It’s an acquired skill, but can be done, with great substance.
The point being the latter: seldom do they do it with great substance.
Give you an example in education. Randi Wiengarten was here the other day. My comment to her was: If class size doesn’t matter, why do the rich spend so much money sending their kids to private schools with small classes?
About as long as an eyeblink, but makes an important point, punchily.
Good examples. Glad to have the benefit of your experience. The examples illustrate why I would not mind seeing Donna Brazille on this pig’s show, if I had a TV. She knows the rope-a-dope. Thinks on her feet.
I wonder what Erick thinks of Nikki Haley. Is she still a Sikh?
IOKIYAR.
Didn’t know that – HOORAY!
OK, need more!
One of my goals it to reduce most issues to 15-sec sound bites. Kind of a parlor game for me. You’ll recognize my efforts in my comments.
No,I am saying she has no shame.I wouldn’t work for any company has hires race baiters.And I won’t appear on stage with David Duke for any renumeration.
Donna Brazille is different.Like I say ,some will do anything for money.
This story – and the NY mosque story – have me ready to pull out what little hair I have left. They should both be filed under “Who cares? – don’t give media coverage to this”.
On the Mosque the builders have a right to build subject to zoning and are past zoning (and “landmarks”) in NYC, so build at the building where they have a permit to do so – if that is what they want to do. Those that object can take their best shot at convincing them to build elsewhere. The rest of us can be told the final decision when it is made – I don’t need to be told that those on either side of that discussion are hateful.
On Obama 4 years of public school during ages 7 to 11, I am again suggesting it be filed under “who cares – do not give media to this nonsense”.
But if you must give media at least be accurate and I’m sorry but the posted story reads in a way that conveys an error – ” ‘about Barack Obama’s faith — it is clear when he was enrolled in school in Indonesia his parents listed his faith as Islam. The New York Times, in 2008, buttressed that.’ Notice there’s no link. That’s because a) Obama’s mother and step-father never did that; b) Obama attended several schools in Indonesia, including a Catholic one,…”
That implies he was not enrolled in school in Indonesia where his parents had listed his faith as Islam – and since Indonesian law requires you to list a faith so that the required by law one day a week of religious instruction can be in your faith, and since the parents obeyed the law and listed his faith as Muslim at both the Catholic school and at the Muslim school, the implication is in error.
The Catholic school, Fransiskus Assisis, where Obama first attended school, has published the enrollment documents that show that Obama enrolled as a Muslim, the religion of his stepfather (whom Obama says was non-practicing at that point – perhaps an atheist). I have not seen the Muslim school documents on the web but others that have report he was registered as Muslim in that school also.
As to “The Times has extensively debunked the Faux News/wingnut “madrassa” meme” – that is also mis-leading. “Madrassa” is مدارس, – an Arabic word coming from the Hebrew Midrash which is used by the Arabic speaking for any type of educational institution, whether secular or religious (of any religion) in most of the Arabic speaking world (madrasah, madarasaa, medresa, madrassa, madraza, madarsa, medrese etc. are all the same word). What the TIMES debunked was the idea that Obama’s school for the second two years – the ages 10 and 11 – of his life in Indonesia was structured like the schools that taught the Taliban in Saudi-financed madrassas in Pakistan – it did not teach Wahhabism, and indeed did not teach jihad wants you to be a suicide bomber.
Could we just ignore these fake controversies in the future?
Yes, you said she had no integrity (in addition to be willing to do anything for money–if there is a great distinction, I do not see it), viz “Now think if she had any integrity…well why would you want to be on a CNN set with race baiters”. If you think strongly implying through your quasi-intellectual hypothetical is not saying she has no integrity, perhaps one who makes such implications should gaze more than glancingly into a mirror.
“Now think if she had any integrity”
If it’s quasi-intellectual hypothetical….Ok then.
I will be even more clear….Donna Brazille has no integrity.
My apologies. By “No”, I thought you were responding to “You are stating that Donna Brazille has no integrity.”
Donna Brazille should only be seen on GritTV and heard on KPFA, for example?
This is always the game that “Corporate whores” play to cover their guilt…they must go on these race baiting outlets like FauxNews so that they can reach a wider audience.
You won’t see ‘em on GritTV…cuz their primary interest is not informing..it’s getting as much cash as they can…so the Corporations are the ones they cater to…under the guise of reaching a wider audience.
She is a commentator and she get paid for it. I feel your imputation of motives is rather broad.
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I am sorry you feel that way…..
And I am sorry you have such venom in your heart. The right wing blogs are enough outlet for such disrespect for another human being. I hope we don’t see more
here.
Ugh. I’m watching local NYC evening news coverage of the demonstrations about Park51.
A firefighter was just shown saying that the non-mosque-not-at-Ground Zero must be stopped in order to stop Sharia law from being practiced in the US.
I am so embarrassed for him: The cultural center founders are Sufis, a sect of Islam which Bin Ladin and other conservative radical Islamists would glady repress, if not just kill. Sufis do not practice Sharia law. Sheesh.
And this guy wants our nation to assist Bin Ladin in getting rid of progressive Muslims in general and Sufis in particular. Way to go, dude!
How embarrassing that our news media can’t report accurately, but instead feels it must play stenographer to not only radicals and bigots, but to the ignorant.
Somebody gave that looney a JOB!?