bt! the wingnuts only recognize brown skinned terrorists. they refuse to admit that timothy mcveigh and the OKC bombing was a domestic terrorist.

Koresh was set-up!
Also!

Wait, he was a white guy, right?

If this guy’s name had been, say, Mohammed Abdelnaby, how big would the wignut Memeorandum circle jerk be right now?

Don’t give up on that circle jerk just yet.

Might find some connection to mooslims in his background yet.

They’ve probably already got wood hoping for it.

Now BT, you know that this guy is obviously just mis-guided and only needs to be counseled by a good therapist to once again be a productive member of society.

Either that or he’s a criminal driven mad by watching all those “eastern media” types on da teebee.

Seems like the whole anti-science thing is working in society’s favor. If they ever figure out that you can’t light fertilizer on fire, rather it’s an oxidizer and needs other ingredients to become a bomb, and propane tanks are built with the explicit intention of preventing them from exploding, that’s when we better start worrying…

mikey

Looking forward to hearing how Mr. Sharp wasn’t “right-wing” or “conservative” — but just “a nut.”

The Mosque at Ground Zero made him do it.

There’s a hook I hadn’t considered.

‘Mer’ka: Stupid and safe.

I think he must have had food poisoning.

Been there, done that.

Whoops, didn’t catch the photo of Bin Laden with a target on it.

Probably rules out a past connection to mooslums.

Wonder why he targeted the police station?

Just cause it’s gubmint?

The very essence of the Twinkie Defense.
Solid.

Here’s a root beer for ya.

$100 bucks says he owns a copy of Glenn Beck’s Common Sense.

Naaah, $10 says he doesn’t believe in book-learning.

Might have Palin’s book though jus’ fer the pictures.

Right! He’s a victim of the Mooslim Menance.

$5 says he’s got it on cassette.

The gov’t is literally driving people crazy. They had better start paying attention because right now it’s just an occasional person doing this but soon it may be large crowds of pissed off Americans.

The media actually covered this story? I am shocked a White Male did something bad? Tell me they did not release his photo any Dark Person does a crime the press finds a photo in a second.

Wow, that’s a pretty sick sentiment. Large crowds shooting cops because they’re mad at the government?

Nice.

His wife or girlfriend — or both — will say Obama’s speech set him off.

No, shooting randomly out of frustration. Cops, maybe. That’s not my sentiment and I’m not sick. I’m very concerned about the anger in the country.

Agreed

Isn’t that the second amendment solution??? I know someone who says that’s what we need to stop this government take over stuff. Her name is Sharron.

I’m sorry, but I don’t buy the “government better start listening or people start shooting” BS.

It’s a rationalization for criminal acts.

The militias have thought this for years and they are heavily armed and well financed.

Yep, he’s the victim.

Remember, McVeigh was a vet. How many vets are not getting treatment? http://www.openleft.com/diary/19751/salon-obama-falling-down-with-veterans-too

Let’s be clear. Faux “News” and “News” Corp are NOT real news organizations, trustworthy, dependable, truth-telling, honest…IOW, they’re not boy or girl scouts.

They are, however, a gang, and since certain individuals have been incited into committing acts of violence (like this guy in McKinney TX appears to be, right-winger, NRA-membership/gun-toter, probably Glenn Beck acolyte) because of the right-wing hate-filled propaganda spouted/endorsed by folks at Faux “News” and “News” Corp, I’d have to say a criminal gang.

Rupert “Don Corleone” Murdoch with his loyal lieutenants, a right-wing media hit squad, at Faux “News.” Helped, of course, by their fellow right-wing talk-radio media hit squad members like Rush Limbaugh. All part of the same gang.

And we’ve seen this before, but on a much smaller scale back during the Nixon years, with Donald Segretti and the right-wing “rat-f*ck*rs,” a name these Republicans gave themselves. Right-wing “rat-f*ck*ers” who also called themselves the Republican MAFIA. And with the same intent expressed by Andrew Breitbart today, destroy the Democrats, eliminate anything liberal in our society.

Mafia. Republicans. Rat-f*ck*rs. Faux “News.” “News” Corp. Right-wing talk radio. All the same. A gang out to destroy America, replace our liberal democracy with something else (as if they haven’t already done so).

And one thing I’ve learned from watching crime programs on television is you don’t negotiate with THE MOB, especially those who are holding for ransom all of our nation’s children, senior citizens, the poor, the middle-class and all of America’s workers. This is what the Republican “Just Say No” Party is doing, holding our nation hostage, representing the wealthy and only the wealthy in their right-wing shake-down of our democracy.

As long as it’s not from Dr Pepper Snapple.

Excuse me. Of course those acts would be criminal and if you believe that I think they are okay or desirable you are wrong. The wingnuts keep pushing and pushing. Doctors are being killed etc. It’s horrifying and unAmerican but the anger is real.

Maybe it’s a misperception on my part, but it seems to me we have this occur (remember the dood flew his plane into the IRS bulding not long ago? And Waco? And OK CITY) when we have a Democratic President. Not so much when we have a Republican one.

Think that’s a misperception or is there something to it?

Kinda sad, I think. But I don’t know the answer to it. I don’t know any miltiamen and really don’t want to.

Another photo showed a steel plate that had been shot up. The caption read, ‘What if that was your face?’

Gee, who would have ever thought that he would be pulling a trailer full of “wood chips, roadside flares, gasoline, and ammonium nitrate fertilizer…?”

Good guess – but I bet Margaret’s got it right.

Morris Dees wrote a book – The Gathering Storm.

There’s a distinction between justifying an act and predicting that it’s likely to occur, that you might be missing.

A national anthem that captures the current spirit of the good ole U.S.of A. or as we affectionately call it today the Corporate States of America.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kU7lC3bhq7c

I think Twain is not rationalizing this I think Twain is worried about a very real and increasingly likely event that I admit is not rational . For it won’t be us doing the shooting BT it will be the Tea Baggers.
We would pick better targets and have better plans. We know if we can ignite fertilizer we are ruled by logic not emotion we know science they do stuff they see on tv.

I think TheOracle at 28 above is somewhere near the source of it all.

Nope, not a bit. I don’t have a link, but I believe the observation has been made before.
When Dems are in office the Repubs and the RW wingnuts ramp up their disinformation campaigns, and people respond.

Sorry, but this is offensive:

The gov’t is literally driving people crazy.

No, it’s not. We may have flawed people running the country, we may have too many in the tank for Goldman Sachs, but they are not “literally driving” crazy wingnut assholes to shoot up police stations kill cops.

He probably was hearing all about it on the local talk radio station. Or maybe his local TV, because in Texas the stations are mostly conservative (meaning Faux/ABC type).

About that sign in the photo: America (the United States) was NOT founded by right-wing extremists. Right-wingers back them were loyal to the crown. It was liberals (the new ideas people) that founded this country.
What idiots.

Oops… I mean, what idiots that made that sign.

People don’t attack the government with guns when they’re mad at muslims. Joe Stack flew a plane into the IRS because that’s who he had a beef with. Not to say he wasn’t nuts.

The wingnuts keep pushing and pushing. Doctors are being killed etc. It’s horrifying and unAmerican but the anger is real.

I know what you mean but this is confusing. Whose anger?

Re-writing history is SOP for these assholes.

I wish that I had not made my comment. I mistakenly thought that I was free to say what I thought without being called sick and offensive.

I don’t think the government makes anyone do it but, as noted here, when you have disinformation like Fox News and wingnuts like Beck and Angle, you may tend to set off some folks who see it as their duty to strike back. Now there is this Mosque thing that Gingrich et al are making noise about. I remember last summer when the Tea Party had some of their members carry guns to rallies. That can’t be good. What would happen if a counter demo sprung up across the street and they brought guns.

Verboten to make statements that don’t include the proper expression of disgust regarding the bad guys. Ranting and reinforcement of societal norms is more useful, doncha know.

Apparently, the military thinks they just need more of the Jebus:

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/08/10/vets-for-common-sense-and-relgious-freedom-org-slam-christian-proselytizing-in-u-s-military-going-to-god-wont-make-it-for-ptsd-victims/

The more things change the more they stay the same.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BmEGm-mraE

I didn’t say you were sick. I said the notion that “the government is driving people” to kill cops was sick.

Uh, yeah — but Beck and Faux are not “the government.”

No, I think I said that. The government has not made any of this people “act out”.

Interesting as your Mexican Neighbor let me say the answer is yes the county border:)

Was this guy attacking the police station for its freedoms?

The government has not made any of this people “act out”.

I think everyone agrees with this — except, of course, for those deluded POS who are committing the acts.

Good question these guys normally leave notes and manifesto’s don’t they?

He was fighting us here so he didn’t have to fight them over there.

Keep using that line everytime you can thats a perfect Meme!

Yet. There’s a Bush in the future and I wouldn’t doubt anything.

I’m with things.

That said: he attacked a police station. In Texas. With guns.
Manifesto or not, this guy didn’t figure to survive, or his meds were seriously out of kilter.

his meds were seriously out of kilter

Oh god, he was one of us?

Question: Did you see anything on this guy on your evening TV news, or did they spend more time pushing bigoted garbage against that Muslim rec center a guy wants to build in NYC?

Dude was certainly loaded for bear. Assault rifle (they don’t say 5.56mm or 7.62mm), 12-gauge shotgun (they don’t say pump or semi-auto) and a .45 semi-auto pistol with lots of ammo on him. Knew enough to get behind the tree line across the street.

Whose anger? If you lived in rural guns and god red states you would know. It is palpable much of the time. These are resentful folks who think the educated elites on the coasts disrespect them. They believe everyone but they have gotten all the breaks from the government and Wall Street. They truly believe Obama is a foreigner who is dismantling a democracy they actually never believed in.

Fair question. Fortunately I’ve given up on TV news.

Anyone who believes an ambiance of rage within a community won’t eventually produce some who will express that in violence is naive. To never look beyond considering guys like this one in McKinney as simple isolated nut cases is not wise.

“Well regulated militia.” Heh.

By the by, my brother lives in McKinney. I am not happy to know what kind of looney tunes his four kids are sharing a community with.

Let’s see folks…when all the riled up and unstable two leggeds start thinking…’well if you don’t talk like me, don’t look like me, don’t believe what I believe…so you must be the dawg gone bad guy…I am gonna shoot ya!’…

I personally don’t give a diddly hoot if the government made them do it, or Beck, or O’Reilly, Obama, whoever…I am going to duck for cover and find a way to protect myself and my family, hopefully peaceably, to the best of my ability. The real elephant in the room is that we have allowed this country, government, and it’s citizens to fuck around with so many potential kegs of powder, that any seemingly innocent event could get somebody to start throwing matches.

Look around at the unbelievable incivility and just drop dead mean spiritedness that is very obvious no matter where you live…add in the treachery, angst, and tangible anger that is spewed forth by many that are just trying to survive each passing day…I think you have a very volatile environment…

…arguing about who started it is childish in my opinion!

Liberal, nothing: they were radicals!
No one else was trying democracy then, and it’s a very tricky balancing act: their plan worked for 200 years.

You know Jane Hamshire how I feel about my voice being silenced. That usually results in my support being withdrawn. There’s a lot of things that could get done when we work together. Not when my voice is silenced. Only warning John.

…arguing about who started it is childish in my opinion!

It’s a fine point. To find a remedy it makes sense to explore the causes.

I am sure he is good evangical christian who had everything right with god before he did his jihad crusade to help gov goodhair secceed from Oklahoma.

I’d wager Twain met large crowds of crazed militia minded anti gubberment right wing white racist, misogynist, homophobic under educated fuckers.

I’d bet a lot on that.

Loved your post, thanks.

That these fuckin loons are DOING this stuff, and getting away with it (I’d say parking and lighting the fire is getting away with it) is just horrendous and mind boggling. They are MUCH more dangerous than any protesters.

But that’s the way of our corporate fascist existence.

Yep. It’s being fahred up and stoked too.

Daily.

And as jobs disappear, and don’t come back, and lives get poorer in all aspects, people look for scapegoats and the GOP right wing is feeding them.

Sadly, the Dems and the MSM do not counter it all, and are equally complicit as the loons of the right.

But that’s all part of the plan. Dems, Pubs. They serve the same masters and the MOTU want the majority of We The People at each other’s throats, not at theirs.

Plain and simple, it all is to see.

It’s class war, nothing else.

Show me where and how the Dems are not doing the same thing, for the same corporate overlords?

It’s not a political war, it’s a class war.

I’ve read your comments for long enough I completely understand what you are saying and I agree with it all.

There is a growing group of angry, militant, well armed, loon racist, misogynist and homophobic people in this country that are increasingly acting out with violence.

And our government is doing very little to stop them,

Fred Phelps and his group could EASILY be shut totally down, and NOT for violation of free speech issues.

But they are left to roam free and incite, as is Beck, and many, many others.

There’s a REASON they are left to be free to incite and do violence, it fits the plan.

An increasingly dispirited and unemployed and poor middle class falling to lower class is a big threat to the PTB and the MOTU-because they are the one’s that CREATED this growing failed middle class.

So it behooves the PTB and MOTU and Corporate Fascists and their bought and paid for elected offals to create and encourage we the people to be at each others throats, instead of theirs.

We’ll see much more of this rightwing violence I think, in the years to come. And they won’t be locked up and locked down like proggy protesters without arms would be.

It’s part of the scam. On we the people.

It’s a class war.

Love your comments, always.

Thanks for all you share.

I’m sure BT just misread your POV.

I know I’ve done the same with others, too.

;-)

Yes they are, and the government is doing this because the right wing noise machine SAYS they are doing it, and that spurs the crazies.

It may not be true, but that don’t matter.

What matters is that the loons are BEING TOLD the government is after them (despite the fact the governement is after ALL of us, and FOR the corporations) and they BELIEVE it. Beck et al, are doing a grand job of firing up the base 23% whackaloons. And more and more of them are acting out violently, and the MSM is NOT reporting for what it is, or as serious as the trend is.

We have a lot of problems in this country. And our government is LETTING these whackaloons run free for the most part. If progressives were this militant, they’d all be rounded up and extridited to Bagram.

If you don’t get that, yer missing the game, BT.

Badda bing!

*G*

Thank you.

Yeah, there’s that, what you said, too, in all of this.

Real people, really angry, really uneducated and well armed.

That’s a threat, a real one, and it’s wiped under the carpet as much as possible, in order to enable it.

I appreciate and concur with Ed’s comment.

And I can see, having said what he said, how he’d get to his end point you quote.

I think there’s a good bit of validity in his posit.

Having said that, I think YOUR point about exploring causes is essential.

VERY essential.

Good comments, in this one.

Thanks to all, even if I’ve disagreed with some . . . ;-)

Well anyway.

I feel pretty, anyone?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7BQRGXFLJs

Thanks Larue. It is so easy to see these folks as just nuts and kind of funny with the occasional on going bonkers for no reason.

I also agree that it is about class and inciting class warfare among the looted..

Could be a William Ayers clone. Bloomberg blamed the times square bomber on right wingers. Point is this, do not start blaming all, for the actions of one. We do not have collective blame in this country.