That’s my favorite quote among many from Judge Vaughn Walker’s opinion last week in Perry.
Conjecture is all the Defendant-Intervenors really ever had. They had their conjecture that children might be better off with parents of two genders than with two parents of one gender. Of course, that’s since been disproved, as children of lesbian parents in America have been found to be more socialized, easier to get along with, and more well-adjusted than children from ‘traditional’ parenting arrangements. They had their conjecture that dudes would start cheating on their wives with other women when they got a close look at how two dudes might establish their own rules about monogamy and openness. I mean, really. Do you know any woman who’d take kindly to her husband returning home from the neighborhood poker game one evening with the announcement, “Those two gay-married dudes who bought the Stephens’ house, George and Ralph? Guess what? They have sex with other people. I think we should too, or at least me. Cool?”
Me neither. They had their conjecture that ladies marrying ladies would confuse the children. Any of you who’ve had the chance to explain to a niece or nephew, or even your own child, that mommies sometimes marry mommies too — well, you know how natural this seems to children once you explain that the two mommies love each other. Kids know that’s what marriage is about — love.
If you’re lucky. And kids live in a world filled with luck, and hope.
Oh, yes — there was much speculation, too. The bigots and haters speculate that divorce will skyrocket when gays can marry. I’m not sure why, unless they know from their own ranks exactly how many sad straight-married men and women will seek their true loves when it’s legal to do so. Of course, Massachusetts, where gay-marrying has been the law the longest, has the lowest divorce rate in the nation, and it’s still falling. The Mormons worry that God’s plan isn’t being manifested on earth when gays marry; but what they won’t tell you is that in their cosmology, faithful (male) members get to be a god with your own planet on your death, as a good LDSer, and you get ALL the wives you might ever want. (No multiple husbands, ladies, so “choose” wisely the first time, okay?)
The proponents speculate that our schoolteachers will be forced to teach gay sex in elementary schools. Can you imagine holding the attention of a bunch of fourth graders long enough to explain fellatio? Me neither.
It’s simply idiocy.
And please do not let me commence, Louise, about their fears. Deep-seated and dark, their fears of Teh Ghey are simply fundamental to who they are. Now, I don’t expect everyone to love me or what turns me on. I certainly don’t find what heterosexuals do intriguing (any more) or worthwhile. But I am willing to concede that some people, twisted and wrong though they may be, like to rub their dirty parts and put them places I’d rather not know about. I don’t fear it, it’s not even actually icky to me. Just because I don’t want to do what you do to get off doesn’t mean I hate, fear, or loathe you. Well, except for furries. (I kid, I kid — I love a good skritch, you furvert!)
The frighty-righties even seem to fear that we will demand access to their churches for our gay marriages. As if. Who would want to get married in the bosom of a community where we are so hated, despised and denigrated? It will not happen.
My point is this: the conjecture, speculation, and fears are pretty silly. They are religion-based bigotry at their most elevated, and icky cooties feelings at their worst. They really aren’t the hallmark of self-actualized, high-self-esteem adults. In fact, the conjecture, speculation and fears of the frighty-righties say more about themselves than they do about the horrors they predict, the conjecture they abhor, and the fears they want to use to frighten people. They are more than silly: they are ludicrous, laughable, embarrassing and absurd.
And, on top of that, they “are not enough.”
So — just stop it. Stop predicting stupid things will happen if Americans can get married. Even if you were right, which you manifestly are not, it wouldn’t be enough to Mr Law. Even if all your foolish speculation came true, Mr Law doesn’t care: speculation isn’t what we legislate here in America. And suppose all your fearsome outcomes did suddenly start to happen?
Well, here’s what would happen. Mr Law would catch up right quick with any teacher who tried to indoctrinate little kids in gay sex. And Mr Law will find out right away if folks abandon their families because they can suddenly marry the sexy librarian or their auto mechanic they’ve always oddly had the hots for: those kids you made with your poor unfortunate husband or wife will still need support, and the state will ensure they get it. And nobody’s going to invade your precious church you ordered out of a Tough Shed catalog, on the extra-large page. And no one’s going to seduce your daughter, either. She’s not all that. Or maybe she is: it doesn’t really matter, she’ll do what moves her despite the illegality or legality of marriage equality.
And the frogs falling from the sky, or Satan’s dominion extending to earth? Well, there isn’t anything Mr Law can do about that, apparently. So expecting the state to enforce your faith’s dicta is simply unrealistic. If the world is gonna crack open with thunder and all Satan’s minions pour out because Steve and Adam get married in the rotunda of City Hall in San Francisco, here’s a clue, rightwads: it’s already happened. You better start looking for other End Time evidence, because there are married gay dudes and dudettes all over Planet Earth.
Which still rotates on its axis and revolves around Old Sol. Or does it?
If your religion can’t stop Satan or the Devil or El Diablo or whatever magical evil force you’ve conjured to frighten the rubes — well, neither can Mr Law. Listen up, unenlightened Americans: YOUR FEARS ARE NOT ENOUGH.



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Democracy is more than just mob rule.
A lot of their fear, IMO, is that generations about to become adults don’t give a good crap who anyone else loves, don’t fear teh Gay, don’t respond to the fear campaigns being waged.
So they are desperate, and this is their last shot.
Congratulations, Teddy. I almost wished for the trial to linger so I could continue reading your riveting live-blog.
Ted Olson did an incredible job dismantling Chris Wallace’s right wing talking points today. Nope, I don’t watch FOX but I caught it here.
Excellent, Teddy. Right in their faces. I am really hopeful about this in the SC – don’t see how it can be reversed.
Teddy!
Excellent!
Good evening, everyone. First spectacular sunset as I sit at my Portland desk, watching the cirrus clouds turn red and Mt St Helens loom to the northward.
Life is good.
I wouldn’t walk across the street to vote to eliminate or reduce the rights of a fellow American, and do not understand those who would.
More rights, not less.
Thank you, all, this post has been bouncing around since I read that line. It strikes me that this was all the bigots and h8ters had: and in a democratic republic, it’s simply not enough. What they want is a theocracy, and I think they’ve missed their chance….
So glad you got to happy and the “life is good” stage so soon after a move.
That’s not often easy.
Salud!
Right? Sorta like being “pro war”. How can anybody be pro death and blood and suffering? Sometimes it’s necessary to go to war but only because some idiots in some other country are “pro war”.
One of my favorite pieces of Walker’s opinion, after he tore to shreds the various purported rationales that the DIs put forward, was this:
Bold added by me, but when you consider that this section comes after 133 pages of expert filleting of the DIs by Walker, I don’t think I’m adding any emphasis here that Walker didn’t already give it in his opinion.
Perkins, and a turn with Bob McDonald on another morning show today – they actually look like their most potent weapon has been wrenched from them and they are about to go to the
mattressesspitballs. I saw panic in McDonald.Woot! Teddy, I haven’t been around enough lately to send along my hearty congratulations on Walker’s ruling, so here goes a bit belatedly:
CONGRATULATIONS!!!
Now here’s hoping he denies the stay…
By the way, I take it from another diary of yours that you are now in OR? What’s the state of marriage there these days?
Not without its little bickers, but we’re so bad at arguing with one another that moments after we start, we end up in a hug and all apologizing, even after ten years. It’s rather sappy, but we simply cannot fight.
Thank you Teddy!
This is wonderful and inspiring.
TEDDY!
All the Talibangelical wankers had on their side was raw prejudice and hate. Do not give them any credit at all. They need to be publicly shamed and ridiculed.
It always was about their fear of losing control over the world and other people around them.
In the meanwhile, a group of well respected Sociologists have done an exhaustive study and determined what the consequences, intended and unintended, of same sex marriage would be for this country. They have condensed their report here and it’s recommended for those who only think they’ve thought this through.
Glad to hear it Teddy.
Speaking of mob rule, have you noticed how the Prop 8 vote is now characterized as a ‘significant majority approving of traditional man-woman marriage’ with these guys? In case anyone forgets, it was 52/48, hardly a landslide and a great improvement over the previous vote in 2000 for Prop (iirc) 22.
They will never get over their habit of wanting/needing to change history.
The good (and I mean VERY good) judge sliced, diced, minced, julienned, and deep fried the DI’s with skill, grace, and verve. A thing of beauty to behold.
When reality fails them, fantasy must take it’s place.
Heh – works that way with me and belch too.
All it takes is “You did NOT just say that!”
Poof! We start cracking up and all…
Here’s to us!
A lot of that comes down to familiarity. My parents’ generation — in their eighties now — simply understands if they are forced to by a family member they love. The next generation below that — mine — is familiar enough to realize the world has changed. But below us? These are people whose peers, if not they themselves, have two mommies or two daddies, and it’s not a big deal. At all.
People Chris Hayes’ and Attackerman’s age? They are flummoxed by the entire kerfuffle. BFD.
Olson is a High Holy Man to the frighty-righties: a 911 widower (wife Barbara died in the plane that hit the Pentagon) as well as the man who won Bush the presidency before SCOTUS. Also, as Solicitor General, he won many of Bush’s arguments before SCOTUS during the first four years.
The righties seem unclear on his role in Perry. I imagine they think David Boies performed some liberal hypnosis voodoo or something.
Something I’ve been mulling lately. I get the impression many h8ters fear they’ll be forced to APPROVE of teh gay. Of course nothing could be farther from the truth. It is their privilege to disapprove if they wish, they simply need to grow up and realize that expressing their disapproval does not extend to denying legal rights and protections to those of whom they disapprove.
Or shouldn’t, anyway and one day won’t.
Add Nate Silver and Moulitsas.
But isn’t it interesting that we never have to explain not only Pam Spaulding, but Jane, or Amanda Marcotte?
After taking a parenting class that made me role play ” I can tell you are really upset!” — MrCE and I pull this out when we are pissed off, and all tension dissolves into laughter. Works every time. Thank you Haim Ginott.
The entire horizon, of which we have about a 230 degree view, is now purple and pink and red. It’s surreal, in a Maxfield Parrish kind of way. Tonight’s the first time this has happened, I’m quite overwhelmed.
I’m aware of his history yep. And Wallace seemed unsure about him until the very end when he said that he found it hard to believe that Olson had ever lost any case he had ever argued before the SCOTUS. I don’t think much of Wallace, he;s the lesser son of a much greater man but I think Olson had him convinced in the end.
But don’t you understand, OFG? Civil rights are a zero sum game, if I use mine, yours are correspondingly reduced.
Shorter Judge Walker: “Is that all you’ve got? Decision for the plaintiffs.”
A thing of beauty, indeed.
They won’t be special any more. I wonder if they ever consider that about half the marriages in this country end in divorce.
I was very flattered to see M.V.Lee Badgett’s comment today that she had followed my liveblogging of the Prop 8 trial when she wasn’t on the stand testifying for the Plaintiffs. If you haven’t had a chance to read today’s Book Salon, it was fun. Also, you should buy her book, as it’s chockfull of information (ammunition) readily dispensable in discussions with marriage equality opponents.
Congratulations to you and anyone lucky enough to find somebody truly compatible. Starting out as a curmudgeon sort of limited the range of possibilities in my case. Oh well, Bob loves me.
We were looking at the Bay of Fundy a year ago, watching another beautiful sunset.
Thank you, and yes we are in Portland now: day eight.
I’ve tried but I honestly can’t think in terms of zero sum and black and white. I’m always so torn between rage and pity at those who are incapable of or unwilling to exercise deeper thought.
I disapprove of Evangelical Christianity, the Catholic Church, and the Mormon Church, but I don’t go around throwing rocks at them or saying they should be shut down. Hell, one of my Ph.D. students is a Mormon.
Thank you, Christine. Sometimes it takes me longer to formulate my thoughts, especially on topics very close to me. I wanted to say a lot this week, and it took a while to get the focus. I’m glad you liked it.
I’ve been thinking about the “rights pie/zero sum” thing all afternoon since Lee B on Book Salon.
And I keep thinking; you know, isn’t that so about everyone’s economic rights? If people were thought of before profits, we would hardly ever be talking about immigration, gay rights, any of the marginalized folks.
And lo and behold, the non-marginalized would be all “Yeah, that’s right.”
*clink*
Excellent place to see the Moon’s influence on the Earth. You can actually see the mound of water rushing in as the tide returns.
Portland is one of Scappoose’s nicer suburbs. :)
And even more in the most socially conservative and religions areas of the country. Taxachussets has the lowest divorce rate in the country. Must really piss them off.
Wee!
EVERYBODY! *Clink!*
Oh, wait, I meant flummoxed in a GOOD way. Both Chris and Spencer seem genuinely puzzled by the opposition to marriage equality, as if it’s simply inconceivable that a society could deny anyone a fundamental civil right. Most folks their age seem this way.
OTOH, it is important to call them out on their nonsense when it erupts in public.
At least it’s important for me, because the publicity their nonsense gets makes my life that much more difficult.
Reality has a well known liberal bias, (and presumably a homosexual agenda)
(Okay, we are way past Maxfield Parrish now and into Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds. Serious sunset time.)
I loved it, and I’m so happy that you both love your move, and your new neighborhood.
Slightly longer Vaughn: “I had to be polite throughout, but now it’s my turn. Are you people serious with this?”
*CLINK*
To you and Teddy and everyone else.
I grew up with sunsets at my grandparents’ place on Cape Cod, so this is rather a bonus later in life.
Looking back at the trial, it’s stunning how many different ways in which Walker basically asked the DIs, “Would you like some *more* rope with which to hang yourselves?”
That week was the most restful, beautiful, amazing week of my life. And MrCE and I are constantly on the run in Europe. I still think of Campobello Island.
Sorry, I don’t see it that way. Any advocacy they did was underwhelming, like a litany of ingredients in some progressive cake. I’ll even toss Sirota, one of my favs, in that canoe.
The big lift came from the women, who actually KNOW what it’s like to be second class in a pretend-equal world.
And I will always, forever, support them.
He must have been bored out of his mind with all that silly stuff they tried. Also amused, I imagine. But he treated it with great dignity as he should have.
Used to make me a little crazy that an overwhelming majority of Americans profess belief in some absurd fantasy or other and are inclined to view me with suspicion because I do not. I eventually came to terms with the knowledge, so long as they don’t try to force their belief on me and stay off my doorstep. I’ve had to tell more than one, “That ‘No Solicitors’ sign means YOU, asshole.”
And mine at Cape Henlopen, Delaware. That’s why I love Joe Biden…
I went diving there once. Simply breathtaking. (Well okay, “breathtaking” isn’t really a good thing with SCUBA but you get the idea.)
Me, too. When all this marriage is what we say it is flummery started, I made a point of saying in my classes which covered it that marriage is always and everywhere primarily a civil and legal relationship concerned with the allocation of rights and obligations. I also make a point to talking abouot the bewildering diversity of marriage forms and systems, specifically talking about same sex (different gender) marriage, marriage to dead people, marriage to spirit beings (NUNS mofo!), Nayar “visiting husbands”, polyandry and group marriage, among others.
I just found out that Emma Thompson’s views on religion are virtually identical to mine. Yet another reason to love her, as if another reason was needed…
Got a smile outa me.
When they come to the door, I just slam it in their faces. Proselytization elsewhere, I just tell them that I am not interested and to go play in traffic.
I seriously need to get myself up to Montana, buy us some beers and hang out with you.
My brother has a great boat, we tooled all around the island, hiked, slept in the hammock, cooked fish, drank vodka, and had an all around great vacation. My first lobster roll.
I’ve got a sign on my door in both English and Spanish that says, “Please, no soliciting, especially from churches. My beliefs are private and not open for discussion with strangers”. So far, all I’ve determined by having it posted is that neither Mormons nor Catholics can f*cking read!
I love Haim Ginott! “I can hear that you are upset…” :)
I just looked up a quote by Emma on the subject. Good for her!
Do Catholics go door to door?
There are some great diving grottos, which is one reason why it’s a good environment for lobsters.
Please do. If you weren’t in a relationship I could introduce you to some really nice, cute boys up here as well, though they may be a bit young for you. Personally, I would feel like a baby raper, even if I weren’t straight.
They do here! Damn it!
No, but fundies and Mormons do.
Isn’t it? I call that, (and myself), being anti-theist.
As much as he’s a libertarian and a conservative (Federalist society, etc) that must have been discouraging: who are these bozos and what are they doing in my courtroom? I mean, they were really really awful. Laughable awful, but still awful.
I have to wonder what the folks who paid the bills think.
Didn’t know that. The Mormons are bad enough.
Watching this, and watching that link to Ted Olson on Fox, is that there is one thing conservatives need to understand: They are the bad guy. Hopefully they’ll wake up and realize that their beloved Constitution is protecting the nation *from them,* and that they can change.
Where the hell do you live? I want to know so I can avoid it. Bad enough with the others (and we have a shitload of all three up here).
Yeah. I think if I was in McMurdo station in the middle of winter some Mormon would come knocking on my door.
It has lasted for years, I took the class at Shaker Rec, then facilitated it for two sessions. It has lasted in our household for years.
Never happen in a million years. The Second Coming of Christ teling them that they are evil and going to hell and they would not believe it.
San Antonio area but trying to get back where I belong in Austin, which is refreshingly Catholic sparse.
Jane Hamsher sent me an email the day after the Prop 8 election, when I was still shell-shocked and the rest of the country celebrated Obama’s election, that the blog would not rest until this injustice was undone. It meant a lot to me. That was an awful day — celebration everywhere in the blogosphere and hardly any understanding that people had actually LOST civil rights in America, for the very first time, the day prior.
Jane is an inspiring and relentless leader, whom I would follow into any battle she chose. That she chose mine on which to make our next liveblogging stand was, well, it meant more than I can ever say.
Have you read “The Secret Life of Lobsters”?
I think my “no solicitors” sign has actually cut down on the number of unwanted peddlers of beliefs and services. Clearly a great many have no fucking clue what it means though. As a hermit my doorbell rings infrequently enough that Bob really freaks out when it happens. I’m tempted to unplug the damn thing but somebody pounding on the door would freak him out too. Maybe I should substitute a “if you haven’t been invited get your ass out of here” sign.
I’m going to bed. I applied for 6 jobs today when I normally take Sunday off so I’m beat. Goodnight all. Tomorrow is another day.
No, I haven’t. Is it good?
Jane is definitely a Keeper.
Catholics don’t bother me much, but around here they don’t proselytize.
I don’t think that works either. I used to have a message on an old answering machine that said “If I don’t know you, what makes you think I want to talk to you?” I still got plenty of phone spam.
You have seen the door-to-door atheist on YouTube, haven’t you?
Guy goes to Salt Lake to talk to folks about his atheism, just like they do at his door.
Night. Good luck with the jobs.
In England if people like your work you can make a statement like that. In this country it might not be a career ender for someone in the entertainment business but your bank account would likely take a hit. The embers from those Beatles records bonfires are still glowing.
State and federal Do Not Call lists, not perfect, but it helpps and you can really terorize the assholes who do call you by threatening to turn them in (caller ID is lovely).
I have another approach entirely, when those Mormon lads are sorry enough to get stuck on a public bus with me.
I recruit, too.
Fascinating.
*more clink*
ROTFLMAO!
I would pay to see that!
Must be a physically intimidating chap or a glutton for punishment.
LOL!
Yep. I’ve been registered for a couple of years now. Really out this time Oya!
tonight’s sunset is as magnificent as your post teddy.
NICE! :-D
Heh.
I have been, shall we say, beyond PROVACATIVE when it comes to proselytizers at me door.
Back when I was a *very* successful Fuller Brush door-to-door salesman in high school, thank you very much, best in the region, actually– my boss told me we weren’t solicitors, we were providing health and hygiene opportunities. Back in the seventies, there were lots of lonely housewives still at home with a credit card or a checkbook happy to spend to keep a strapping young high school lad out of the Northern Virginia summer heat. “Another glass of lemonade, dear?” meant a larger order, for me.
“Well, let me kneel down and give you something to pray for, big boy”?
Good luck, dear, I wanted to thank you for your chat on the Badgett thread today, thanks very much for your comments there (and everywhere, I always learn when you’re around).
Sorry I missed you, Peg-aroo! Smooches!
Can someone shed light on the “group thought experiment” or whatever they called the source of the list of potential negative impacts? Was that just a focus group tossing around their own phobias?
Wow, thanks.
These sunsets in Oregon are really something, just amazing tonight. And I don’t have to move away from the desk in the study to watch! (Not really a desk, actually a bedboard strung between two bookcases, but it’ll do until the credit card settles down a bit and we head to Ikea — moving is EXPENSIVE!)
Heh – but please, no, I’m in no way submissive in my rudeness. They’re not always male-proselytizers you know.
I have succeeded in ridding myself of JW and Mormons by lighting the tracts they have handed to me on fire. Combined with crazy stare, it’s quite effective.
Bushes were a lot fuller in the ’70s. Wait, I read that wrong.
Never mind. :)
I invited two of them to come on the SS Trannyshack cruise with us one year, which is when I learned about the weird Mormon fear of water. Apparently you’re closer to the debbil when you’re on a boat. Of course, on that boat, the Debbil is the Captain. Patrick and I had boarded the bus with the two of them and I managed to split them up between us in two different seats (something they ABHOR) and then cooed relentlessly at mine while Patrick spent the entire ride telling about how he’d left their awful church and couldn’t imagine how any thinking person could remain.
I bet they had lots to talk about after.
BREAKING: Sharron Angle speaks to doctors in front of a Mosque.
Ahh. Much more effective, I am sure and no exploding heads to clean up after.
LOL!
“Thank-you for standing up for freedom and liberty,” she says without a hint of irony.
That woman is full metal batshit crazy. Had to stop about 30 seconds in. I was afraid it might be contagious.
Blankenhorn described it as a scientific study put out by the thinktank he heads (where he went to work immediately upon completing his masters thesis — imagine being able to invent a thinktank because no one else would hire you!). It was described as a scholarly research study into all the bad things that would happen, based on scientific study and rigorous research, were “gay marriage” to become law.
And it was fairly well-accepted, at least within bigot circles, as an actual, you know, thing.
Enter David Boies on cross.
Eventually, Blankenhorn had to admit it was a group of five or six of them sitting around ‘brainstorming’ (which is putting quite to fine a point on it, if you ask me) what might happen if gays could marry. There was no research, there was no science, there was no rigor. Nothing but a bunch of h8ters and bigots thinking about how awful their lives would be if Teh Ghey could marry one another.
And Blankenhorn wrote it up, had it ‘peer-reviewed’ (which doesn’t mean what you think it means; the same people who thought up the reasons why gay marriage was bad reviewed the list for typos) and then published it in his scholarly quarterly.
Well done.
I’m shocked to learn the magic underwear can’t be used as a flotation device in the event of a water landing. How magic can it be if it doesn’t even float?
I can’t get over the optics! I thought we were all supposed to hate Mosques.
LDS must have been very conflicted by our SF address, since it had Patrick’s name on it but was also the home of a dangerous predator, in their view. They always want to try to touch base with lapsed members, but couldn’t really send those missionaries to our house knowing I might be home.
It is indeed a shame that it’s ugliness isn’t exceeded by it’s utility.
Otters are dangerous predators? Who knew!
Or if it ends in the death of the head of the Mormon Church in France with Prince Mittster at the wheel of his Citroen? Hardly magic at all, I’d say.
Prolly not even stain-resistant.
Those doctors are the same who put out the picture of Witch Doctor Obama with the bone through his nose. They believe, and may actually counsel patients, that HIV doesn’t cause AIDS. They are insane, dangerous people — just Sharron Angle’s type of people.
I’m sure they proceeded to burn down the mosque.
But it meant that he was instantly transported to Mormon Heaven. You know, the place the rest of us call Hell?
Why I otter!
Drizzle, drazzle, druzzle, drome; time for zis one to come home. Thanks for hosting LN, Teddy. Magnificent evening to all.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0064040/
This was great.
ta-ta rattykins!
Night, rf. Give Bob a peck for me.
Think I will toddle off as well. I am starting to fade and I have a date with a mountain tomorrow morning. Take care all.
If Peg left before she saw the door-to-door atheist link, can someone point her to it please?
Niters to all the sleepy leaving pups….
hehehe – I once took an eyebrow pencil and drew three 6′s in a circle barely visible below my hair, just above an ear – those fuckers left the zip code :D
Evenin’ Teddy and Firedogs
that would be Teddy Partridge, the guy M. V. Lee Badgett reads when she wants to know what’s going on at landmark trials
It was a GREAT day for ALOT of people when this came down.
The business about it destroying traditional marriage is so utterly ridiculous. Unless I’m mistaken, traditional marriage has a divorce rate of about 50%!!!!! The straight folks are destroying it quite nicely all on their own.
Too good!
Evening, all-
Anytime I hear someone talking about “the sanctity of marriage”, I laugh and point out that it is perfectly legal to go to Vegas, get drunk, and get married in a drive-thru chapel by an Elvis impersonator. The argument then loses much of it’s force.
To borrow a phrase: Shock and Awe Geewhiz…
When those unsolicited religious fanatics come tapping at your door…just greet them in the nude with the words ‘Tool of the Devil’ in bright red letters emblazoned across your chest…makes for some amazing ‘Kodak’ moments! :–}
“Let me introduce you to my good friend,
Senator John EnsignGov. Mark SanfordFormer Speaker Newt GingrichRev. Ted Haggard.”Britney Spears being the example that so outraged many LGBT people.
As I expected. When I saw it referred to in the order, I wondered if for dessert they tried to levitate the UN or something…
Hi Pups.
Yeah, what Newt said Teddy.
And yeah, Newt, behind us boomers, the last of us that is (the youngest of us) are a couple of generations already that are NOT wired into the 50′s upraising by any means or by any way other than some perceived archaic history to them.
Nope, the youngn’s by and large (despite the best intent of whackaloon parenting) don’t hate, don’t think, and don’t act like the 23% want their youngn’s to . . and it DOES frighten the shit out of the whackaloons, their elders, their business leaders, their religious leaders, their elected offals.
What a phuckin delight it is knowing this, glad you pointed it out.
And now off to a quick gallop to read more comments before LLN comes up.
Folks, I am also turning in early, settling in to watch tonight’s MadMen.
Enjoy, and have a most pleasant tomorrow.
Teddy! Firepups!
thanks for another great post, teddy. There’s not a lot of news these days that brighten my life, but Judge Walker gave me hope.
alas, i don’t get too many door-to-door or public religious nuts. I always cheerfully and kindly quiz them in a motherly fashion.
(me) “have you read the bible?”
(them) “of COURSE!”
(me) “and it says right at the start of the bible that god created man after the animals so man is superior to animals, correct?”
(them) “Yes!” *beaming at me with approval*
(me) “and woman was created after man so woman is superior to men.”
(them) “NO!” *in a tone of horror*
(me) “oh, so you’re saying animals are superior to humans because they were created first?”
etc etc. i love twisting them into logic pretzels.
Really enjoyed that article, Peterr. Excellent piece tonight Teddy. I love the mix of passion and snark in both pieces.
In my opinion that is the ticket Larue…
It’s about time the whackaloonies, the indignant religious zealots, the elected goons, and the business bullshite barons get frightened! They been jamming fear, and prejudice, and hate down everyone’s throats for so god damn long, it is way overdue to think that they are scared that their precious ivory towers might come tumblin down.
Karma’s a mofo….tuff!
We get both, and Jehovah’s, also.
CTuttle is upstairs!
Late, Late Night FDL: Cows With Guns
Yep, I put us on one of each and 99% of it all was cut within a week.
It was GRAND!
Even the sky was Happy. :)
Purple and Pinks are beautiful colors .. and because of this wonderfully written Ruling, we are going to be seeing far more purples and pinks in our homes, families and communities ;) . Its going to be a very pretty place… :)