OT, but what the hell. I mentioned the other night that I was up in Glacier National Park over the weekend and that my buddy and I hiked up toward the Grinnell Glacier, but wimped out before we got there. It would appear that we made the right decision for more reasons than we knew at the time. If we had gone on we would have been here when this happened.
On that note, I think I shall toddle off. Want to harass the fish in the morning.
hey bct — has been overcast the past couple of days but the temps have been in the mid to high 60′s in the days and rarely getting below the mid 50′s at nite. how ya doing? how goes dr mrs bct’s job search?
Yeah. The last time my spouse took a gig in the midwest, it didn’t work out so good for me in the short run. In the long run, the divorce was necessary for my mental health.
But as she has pointed out more than once, Mrs. Dr. BC isn’t my ex-… I’m going to trust her on that one.
Sigh, I’m so stupid. Can you type the symbol that is in the toolbar above. I did manage to master the link (and feeling pretty damn proud for almost 60 about THAT).
ce — the easy way is the way i told ya… like when ya embed a link but instead of clicking on the chain thingie, ya click on the ” just to the left of the chain
Thanks pups. Just so you all know, I learned to type on an IBM Selectric — I’m ready now. And still pushing choir music. I had a choir teacher in the 11th grade who was a huge taskmaster.
Tell us what yer gonna do, Democrats. Or — here’s an idea — do what we elected you to do in 2006 and 2008. That would probably be too radical for Timmy Kaine and his pals, though.
I rewrote multiple lyrics to The Sound of Music, (My favorite things)
Oklahoma (Everythings up to date in Kansas city) and Wizard of Oz (If I only had a brain) for college musical skits. The funny thing is that now I don’t remember the originals!
This week my hours were shifted to a split shift to help cover for someone on vacation. It’s nice being home in time to be live on LLN! But my body sure wants to g’thud, as Busted would say. I sure can’t jerk my hours around like i could when i was a young ‘un.
the coast range is between the coast and portland no matter which way ya go… i hope on 6 to 26 — takes about an hour and a half to two to get to portland — astoria is about an hour north of me so it is shorter and faster to take the direct route
We has a sunny summer day bright and warm. Frittered the day went to sleep at 6am and had to nap a bit.made a few calls for the Coalition for Low Income Housing mentoring project, Stopped by the USPO and collected our tax exempt status so donations are tax free. Have the letter whoopee!!!
And noticed you stayed up til the sunup how;s your bay?
We had one of those great credenza stereos — our fam spent hours singing, playing instruments (two drum sets in the Ennis living room, father and son).
me neither :) i know this little area around tillamook and a wee bit of the area around newport and lincoln city and have been to astoria once. i’m learning the names and locations of places mainly from watching the news and weather.
My folks had guitars. Dragged” us through “Long Black Veil” , “Tom Dooley”, “Turn, turn, turn”, and “California Dreamin’”. Usually off key. But hey, it worked for us!
Hey all,
Yeah, I want to help. Spocko.
I was thinking today that there’s got to be more I can do. Hell, I’m even in a position in life that I could be arrested without too much havoc. But not for Elisabeth Warren !!
*waves* the eye is on long-term healing mode now (silicone oil to hold surgery in place for 6 months to a year, once the oil is removed i should be back to normal vision). Still wearing an eye patch because otherwise i have very strange double vision which makes it difficult to go down stairs or drive. The upside is that the eyepatch makes me irresistible to males … in the 2-8 age range. They think i’m AWESOME! Sigh.
I guess I’ll be in and out of Cincinnati for the next several years.
I know sweet FA about geography between the Appalachians and the Mississippi. Apparently in Hawaii, the Mainland consisted of New England, the West Coast and some other places, at least as far as my teachers were concerned.
LOL!! My folks dragged us through the high Rockies backpacking every weekend of the season. We sang those songs by the campfire. Bless the 60′s, when mountains were empty of tourists and the fish were native.
I was thinking about a lot how things actual happen in DC vs how we think things happen. And I was thinking about how the “real” media use blogs for story ideas with out attribution. I want to use the media’s disdain for bloggers to force them to verify various people’s thoughts on Warren.
What triggers it was seeing how Dday’s question in a teleconference became, “real news” not because he asked the question, but because of who responded.
I was also thinking about tboggs article today about the conservatives ginning up stupid excuses to attack Warren. “Sloppy with data”
So I thought about how we could help flush out the stupid excuses in advance of the hearings so that we could beat them down.
I was thinking about using something like the Citizen whip tool but with a twist.
One thing I noticed about the public Whip process that Mike Stark found was that people really didn’t want to be on the record. When they did they used weasel words to avoid consequences if they change their mind in the future. Part of the problem was that Mike’s work wasn’t consumed by the “real” media like Politico and “The Hill” If they don’t do the work they need to confirm it. If they don’t read about it in their own publication it probably doesn’t exist in their mind.
We could gather both support and questions about Warren from lower level staffers. They would be recorded (recording them makes them crazy but it also force the issue upstairs to media people at a minimum.)
My thought was that after we get either yes or no on Warren and a quote about how they think or feel about her we let all the various media outlets know these people’s views.
The point of this is that then the various “real” media will need to confirm this (because they can’t accept the view of the DFHs) During this reconfirm process it would force the deciders to come up with more BS reasons than the ones I got from lower level staffers to confirm or not confirm her. The MSM would also have to keep going back to the real reason why she is not going to be confirmed. this would force Geither over and over again to say, “I don’t have a problem with Warren.”
This would be the first step.
To be clear, I do not believe that I will flush out any real reasons Warren will not be confirmed but we could flush out all the nonsense excuses like “sloppy data” from McMegan that tbogg mentioned. As you know, all this stuff is really done behind the scenes in private calls and meetings that we are never going to be in.
Part of the goal of this process is to draw out right wing bile for Warren early and then Warren and the rapid response confirmation team could be set up to help her bat down the BS. But I’ll bet she doesn’t have a rapid response team. However I think there is much love for Warren in the blogoshere and the media and we could unleash our people to bat down the nonsense, (in public at least) and the press will be willing to at least hear our batdown of BS to the charges.
hmmm.. i can see potential for it spocko.. it would make a good diary to open it up for discussion and perhaps encourage some folks to take some action and document the results…
hahahahaaaa! that is such a good idea! It’s some sort of stiff black cloth with elastic – hotter than the hammered down hinges of hell under that thing on a warmish day. the doc suggested i just put opaque tape on the lens of my glasses on that side … i should draw a proper little-boy-style gross bloodshot eyeball on that lens. heehee!
btw, was sorry to hear about your back problems (i usually catch up with LLN threads after getting home from work but i’m hardly ever home early enough to be “live”). I do hope you do as i say and not as i do when i suggest not to overdo it *grins*
hell, you get get out the beadazzler and the hot glue for some fringe or feathers :)
my back is back to its usual cranky self :) i was overdoing it when it was doing it and i knew it and stopped. otherwise, it wudda been much more vocal and not soothed by a couple days of taking it easy…
Okay, but I’d rather just perform civil disobedience and get arrested. Your way seems long and drawn out. More “adultist”. It sounds like an idea that would need strong leadership.
Neither, my folks were socialist intellectuals from the MidWest. The families’ black sheep. Totally uptight. Pete Seeger, Joan Baez, Dylan Thomas poems, Robert Frost, All Things Classical music wise.
I would be stunned if you found anything that would make EW ‘unconfirmable.’
The problem isn’t getting her confirmed — Obama could allow the GOoPers to tell him who to nominate and they would oppose their own nominee. It’s just how they are.
The problem is that Wall Street doesn’t like her, not even a little bit. And on economic matters, Geithner and Summers and Bernanke have Preznit Obama’s ear. Since Wall Street doesn’t like her, Obama’s economic troika isn’t going to back her nomination.
Maybe Bernie Sanders and Russ Feingold and Al Franken can make the man see the sense in this nomination fight. But I truly believe that the first fight has to be to get her nominated. And we all know how much my fellow Hawaiian wants to listen to liberals/progressives.
it’s a great crowd! My 6-yr-old grandson & some of his little pals are eagerly awaiting star wars costumes as soon as i make a trip to the fabric store. The g-unit & i already have lightsabers, it will be so much more fun when we have the costumes! My daughter remarked that she thought when she had a son that he’d be bonding with grandpa over sports stuff … she wasn’t anticipating that she’d have a son who bonded with grandma over geek stuff. heehee!
That make sense. I was thinking about how they hire people to prep Kagan to answer questions. But how do they deal with public perceptions thrown out by the right wing media. They are always on the defensive. I want to actively court the “problems” with Warren. OR conversely find out if the conservatives want her. I think that she would be the kiss of death to conservatives but you would need to find out why they don’t like her. Harvard? Because she is seen as a liberal? On the other hand she could be used as a tool to hurt Geithner. One think I’ve learned is that you don’t know the answers until you ask the questions and then you deal with the data.
So I can spin both support for Warren and lack of support for Warren anyway I want, but I need to find it first.
I also am very very aware that it is the behind the scenes lobbying that is where the real heavy lifting happens. We could show just what a shame all their support statements are. Or, she might actually be confirmed because they already know that she is hampered by being under the Fed and under the thumb of a former ABA lobbyist.
How funny. I just had Copperhead Road blasting tonight. Told my son, ” I’m only going to blast this song. I won’t do the whole cd”. He already had it on his IPod.
I’m an intertoobs failure. STILL haven’t learned to link. FAIL
Oh, you want fun ideas for civil disobedience? Well I can do that too!
I’m going to ask you to dress up like Scrooge McDuck and chain yourself to Warren’s office in Harvard. You will have a sign that says, “Do NOT Confirm Warren! Don’t even nominate her!” The loud quacking will bring the press and the police.
My husband and I are planning a vacation together during Indian Summer. The only place I REALLY want to go is to DC to raise a ruckus. We talked about this, he’s the wage earner so he can’t do the arrest thing. I’m the former homeschool housewife with all the time in the world.
I don’t know. I get scared when I get these ideas.
Your point about nominating her and what “Wallstreet wants Wallstreet gets” is interesting. I’m pretty good at playing the dumb blogger.
“When you say that Wallstreet doesn’t like her who do you mean?”
And again, part of this whole exercise is to get the “real” media to have to redo and re ask my stupid questions to confirm the beltway wisdom. You see the reports have “sources” I’ll be forced to talk to official people on the record BORING. But this also is a way to enlist the conservative media in the process. You and I know that Obama punches hippies and never gives progressives what we want without first watering down the deal to mush. As Dday has already pointed out the position, location in the fed and the boss of the head of this commission has already be given to Wall Street lovers. It’s ALREADY watered down. I think we can make it clear to the conservatives that even if Warren gets in, they have already won. They didn’t get anyone doing real WS reform and reform at the consumer level is “chump change”.
btw, before i forget — i wanna thank those that hung out last night after i bailed and took the thread over 200 — it always brings a smile to my face to see the thread continue on after i leave and ya’ll know how much i like those 200 :)
walkin’ south on la brea from sunset i see mimi farina walking north, arms outstretched and saying omygod is it you, closer i am amazed as she says, i thought you were someone else, i said i’m sorry. later i had a sandwich with her sister on the steps at a&m studios.
spocko, i think they are gonna nominate her and either (a) let her lanquish like dawn johnson or (b) hamstring the agency or her position so that she can not do the job she wants to do
One thing about Warren is that the press really like her, and they don’t like the people who would work against her. This will help when it comes to them doing their job and reconfirming the sound bites of support on non-support.
YOU ARE WELCOME. it was fun we talked your fav subject music and I hogged the 100 and 200 so I am laying kind of low tonight. Started reading the does and don’ts manual for Non Profit to remain tax exempt. Lot of filings to do. Need to calender them.
met dave playing guitar at mccabes long beach on 7th st 65, he played back up with me and rhea at the prison and mecca and forum, had a hans christian 48 we used to play new years eve at isthmus catalina.
Dave lives in Los Osos and we are on opposite side on the mega expensive sewer battle here. I want the chevy he wants the Rolls. Interesting he talked about managing the carpenters, made some bucks then a fews years ago sold his house and moved into an apartment.
Music is life.
Hmmmm. Should I watch the video or claim the zed?
hey ce — how’s ohio tonight?
Damn! I dithered too long.
hey gnome — how ya doing tonight?
Two rain showers came through, thank goodness. The temps dropped from 90′s to high 70′s. Great, in other words!
Hey Suze. How’s the Cote d’Oregon tonight?
OT, but what the hell. I mentioned the other night that I was up in Glacier National Park over the weekend and that my buddy and I hiked up toward the Grinnell Glacier, but wimped out before we got there. It would appear that we made the right decision for more reasons than we knew at the time. If we had gone on we would have been here when this happened.
On that note, I think I shall toddle off. Want to harass the fish in the morning.
Rain showers? You should have seen what we had Monday night. An inch-and-a-half in our backyard.
hey bct — has been overcast the past couple of days but the temps have been in the mid to high 60′s in the days and rarely getting below the mid 50′s at nite. how ya doing? how goes dr mrs bct’s job search?
Hey, Dr. D.
Good night to ya!
So Suzanne,
I have a foolish question to ask about comments. I see indented quotes with the blue bar — please tell this old hippie how to do this.
Good news for her. She’s got a job.
Bad news for yours truly. Her job’s in Ohio… Mine’s in Southern New Mexico : (
Wow, we wish! No rain for weeks, but now bits and fits.
evening, firegourds
ya highlight the words ya want block quoted and then click on the ” in the tool bar above where ya type your comment
Fark! Cut and paste doesn’t keep the links (original EPU’d). Here is the link.
yikes dr dick — heard about this on our local news… am glad ya didn’t head up there… g’nite
Evening PPDCUS!
Hope all is well.
I can do this, I can, I can!!!
That’s a blockquote. Embed the word blockquote in angle brackets, aka less-than and greater-than.
Add your quoted material.
Embed the word /blockquote in angle brackets to close same.
And it looks like this:
yay and fuck
hehehehe hey ppd — how’s the south south bay tonight?
And the good news is that my roof repairs didn’t leak…
we haven’t had any rain in a while either.. things are really drying out :(
Yeah. The last time my spouse took a gig in the midwest, it didn’t work out so good for me in the short run. In the long run, the divorce was necessary for my mental health.
But as she has pointed out more than once, Mrs. Dr. BC isn’t my ex-… I’m going to trust her on that one.
Sigh, I’m so stupid. Can you type the symbol that is in the toolbar above. I did manage to master the link (and feeling pretty damn proud for almost 60 about THAT).
Suz, one in Ohio, one in New Mexico. Not so much fuck!
ce — the easy way is the way i told ya… like when ya embed a link but instead of clicking on the chain thingie, ya click on the ” just to the left of the chain
It’s the quote sign, ”
I find it easier to hard code my html, but I learned to type on a keypunch.
Go it!
hey conniptionfit — how’s denver tonight?
hey mac — how’s noo yawk city tonight?
So, used in that fashion, what part-of-speech is fuck???
work
Wow. I will definitely carry pepper spray with me from now on! I approve of what he said about carrying guns in parks – a really stupid idea.
fuck if i know — i got english credit in high school by taking drama class
Hurray for Dave Edwards! This is great. Economic royalists, indeed.
Has anybody else seen the Dem’s Republican Tea Party Contract on America? Any opinions among us insomniacs?
Or, ya can just let ‘em guess! That’s what I do. If you can’t figure out what I’m talking about it must be because you’re not paying attention, right?
hi CE – about as well as can be expected, thanks
hey teddy — isn’t it great! i can picture the bastoids sitting in their nascar stickered judge robes….
how goes the packing?
hi Suz — pretty good, thanks
Time for me to toddle off, too. Happy chatting pups.
Maybe so. The pedogogy I’ve taught myself suggests that it’s impossible to be too clear, though. /snark??
Cool and cloudy, had a little thundershower earlier, Gott sie danke! Free water outta the sky, what a concept!
i saw the ad on msnbc tonight.. it was either on ko or rachel, both of which had guest hosts… and a segment was done about it
Plucky tune what fun!
Where’s Teddy moving?
Thanks pups. Just so you all know, I learned to type on an IBM Selectric — I’m ready now. And still pushing choir music. I had a choir teacher in the 11th grade who was a huge taskmaster.
g’nite gnome
Too clever by half.
Tell us what yer gonna do, Democrats. Or — here’s an idea — do what we elected you to do in 2006 and 2008. That would probably be too radical for Timmy Kaine and his pals, though.
So they hearken back to Newtie.
hey bb — how’s your bay tonight?
Done.
The movers come at 8am.
We went out for margaritas and dinner.
Conjugates well…must be a active verb?
Definitely!
portland oregon! he’s gonna be back to ‘over the hill’ from me — just a bigger hill is all
The frightening thing is that’s it is actually a pretty accurate representation of their views.
Looking for it, I found a Contract From America website that is within spitting distance of the Dem’s chingaso.
Portland
woohoo!!!
Hmmm. I thought it was an ….
wait for it ….
Bedtime now, then an early a.m. shower and shave.
G’nite, all. Be very well.
My 11th grade choir mistress loved her some show tunes! I STILL know the words to “Sunrise, Suset” and “Surrey with the Fringe on top”!
Hey Folk!
I was thinking to day about how to help Elisabeth Warren. Anyone here want to help? I’ve got some ideas I’d like to run buy ya.
g’nite teddy
+Censored+++.hey spocko — how ya doing tonight?
Good night, Teddy.
Happy times in the new haunts, amigo. Portland’s a great place, I hope you love it.
If yer waitin’, yer doin’ it wrong!
So do I! And, of course, so do my parents.
surry
Hey, Suzanne. Glad to see that you made it to work tonight.
new york is hot and sticky and everyone’s a critic
Do you have to go over a hill?
Can’t you just go up the coast and up the mouth of the Columbia???
I rewrote multiple lyrics to The Sound of Music, (My favorite things)
Oklahoma (Everythings up to date in Kansas city) and Wizard of Oz (If I only had a brain) for college musical skits. The funny thing is that now I don’t remember the originals!
g’evening, Suze & Pups!
This week my hours were shifted to a split shift to help cover for someone on vacation. It’s nice being home in time to be live on LLN! But my body sure wants to g’thud, as Busted would say. I sure can’t jerk my hours around like i could when i was a young ‘un.
dang, just missed gnome.
I’m so there.
yuck — i’m so glad i don’t get that sticky crap here…
Mine, too.
Hi NDFG: I will remember to ask you “How is the eye.” first.
go
the coast range is between the coast and portland no matter which way ya go… i hope on 6 to 26 — takes about an hour and a half to two to get to portland — astoria is about an hour north of me so it is shorter and faster to take the direct route
We has a sunny summer day bright and warm. Frittered the day went to sleep at 6am and had to nap a bit.made a few calls for the Coalition for Low Income Housing mentoring project, Stopped by the USPO and collected our tax exempt status so donations are tax free. Have the letter whoopee!!!
And noticed you stayed up til the sunup how;s your bay?
hey ndfg — always a pleasure to see your fonts — how’s your garden?
Just as well! Bet your lyrics are better!
I’d love to help. But I don’t believe Preznit Obama has the balls to appoint her.
stop
We had one of those great credenza stereos — our fam spent hours singing, playing instruments (two drum sets in the Ennis living room, father and son).
I’ve got family in the Willamette Valley, but I don’t know the OR coast hardly at all.
dood, i was asleep long before the sun arises.. and woohoo on the tax exempt status!
me neither :) i know this little area around tillamook and a wee bit of the area around newport and lincoln city and have been to astoria once. i’m learning the names and locations of places mainly from watching the news and weather.
st
so what are your ideas spocko? am always wanting to hear your ideas
My folks had guitars. Dragged” us through “Long Black Veil” , “Tom Dooley”, “Turn, turn, turn”, and “California Dreamin’”. Usually off key. But hey, it worked for us!
This could be the new theme song for the gay marriage debate!
I loved this song. I like her version and the 5th Dimension version.
me
Dad and big bro played big bands, then bro tuned into Jimi and many other bands. NO FOLK here at all!
Hey all,
Yeah, I want to help. Spocko.
I was thinking today that there’s got to be more I can do. Hell, I’m even in a position in life that I could be arrested without too much havoc. But not for Elisabeth Warren !!
wow, now there is a pot critic
We might have to shoot you now.
hey openhope — how ya doing?
Somehow we all lived to tell the tale…
Some of us still play in big bands…
You’re in Cleveland, right?
meat from the goat’s head.
*waves* the eye is on long-term healing mode now (silicone oil to hold surgery in place for 6 months to a year, once the oil is removed i should be back to normal vision). Still wearing an eye patch because otherwise i have very strange double vision which makes it difficult to go down stairs or drive. The upside is that the eyepatch makes me irresistible to males … in the 2-8 age range. They think i’m AWESOME! Sigh.
happy 100 conniptionfit!
I saw you on an early blog this morning I thought
you should get all crafty and decorate that eye patch ndfg — the little boys have never seen a pink sequined pirate patch before…
Oh yes, right in the suburban heart of the city. We have bands play at the Grog Shop right down the block.
Oh, yeah, Westword. They actually had a contest for “critics” to write for our alternative rag. It was hilarious!
that comment was made right around 1230 am iirc on teddy’s post
Yaknow, that would be so much cooler if I’d planned it!
Dave, you did a great job with this song. I can see them in their flashy robes with sponsor logos all over.
Hi Suz, hiya everyone
I guess I’ll be in and out of Cincinnati for the next several years.
I know sweet FA about geography between the Appalachians and the Mississippi. Apparently in Hawaii, the Mainland consisted of New England, the West Coast and some other places, at least as far as my teachers were concerned.
hey margot — how ya doing tonight?
Hiya Margot!
Leaving now…
Ok,doggies. It’s pumpkin hour for me. Gotta get up early to water the garden! Best o’ the night to y’all!
g’nite ce
g’nite cfit
Schlaf gut!
G’night, CE
for those heading off
LOL!! My folks dragged us through the high Rockies backpacking every weekend of the season. We sang those songs by the campfire. Bless the 60′s, when mountains were empty of tourists and the fish were native.
I was thinking about a lot how things actual happen in DC vs how we think things happen. And I was thinking about how the “real” media use blogs for story ideas with out attribution. I want to use the media’s disdain for bloggers to force them to verify various people’s thoughts on Warren.
What triggers it was seeing how Dday’s question in a teleconference became, “real news” not because he asked the question, but because of who responded.
I was also thinking about tboggs article today about the conservatives ginning up stupid excuses to attack Warren. “Sloppy with data”
So I thought about how we could help flush out the stupid excuses in advance of the hearings so that we could beat them down.
I was thinking about using something like the Citizen whip tool but with a twist.
One thing I noticed about the public Whip process that Mike Stark found was that people really didn’t want to be on the record. When they did they used weasel words to avoid consequences if they change their mind in the future. Part of the problem was that Mike’s work wasn’t consumed by the “real” media like Politico and “The Hill” If they don’t do the work they need to confirm it. If they don’t read about it in their own publication it probably doesn’t exist in their mind.
We could gather both support and questions about Warren from lower level staffers. They would be recorded (recording them makes them crazy but it also force the issue upstairs to media people at a minimum.)
My thought was that after we get either yes or no on Warren and a quote about how they think or feel about her we let all the various media outlets know these people’s views.
The point of this is that then the various “real” media will need to confirm this (because they can’t accept the view of the DFHs) During this reconfirm process it would force the deciders to come up with more BS reasons than the ones I got from lower level staffers to confirm or not confirm her. The MSM would also have to keep going back to the real reason why she is not going to be confirmed. this would force Geither over and over again to say, “I don’t have a problem with Warren.”
This would be the first step.
To be clear, I do not believe that I will flush out any real reasons Warren will not be confirmed but we could flush out all the nonsense excuses like “sloppy data” from McMegan that tbogg mentioned. As you know, all this stuff is really done behind the scenes in private calls and meetings that we are never going to be in.
Part of the goal of this process is to draw out right wing bile for Warren early and then Warren and the rapid response confirmation team could be set up to help her bat down the BS. But I’ll bet she doesn’t have a rapid response team. However I think there is much love for Warren in the blogoshere and the media and we could unleash our people to bat down the nonsense, (in public at least) and the press will be willing to at least hear our batdown of BS to the charges.
Hi CE, see you manana.
Suz, it’s hot in my neck of the woods. Guess I was a little over-anxious for fall…
way or high?
I hear ya. I make my nieces and nephews laugh. I’m a big hit in the under 7 set.
hmmm.. i can see potential for it spocko.. it would make a good diary to open it up for discussion and perhaps encourage some folks to take some action and document the results…
hahahahaaaa! that is such a good idea! It’s some sort of stiff black cloth with elastic – hotter than the hammered down hinges of hell under that thing on a warmish day. the doc suggested i just put opaque tape on the lens of my glasses on that side … i should draw a proper little-boy-style gross bloodshot eyeball on that lens. heehee!
btw, was sorry to hear about your back problems (i usually catch up with LLN threads after getting home from work but i’m hardly ever home early enough to be “live”). I do hope you do as i say and not as i do when i suggest not to overdo it *grins*
hell, you get get out the beadazzler and the hot glue for some fringe or feathers :)
my back is back to its usual cranky self :) i was overdoing it when it was doing it and i knew it and stopped. otherwise, it wudda been much more vocal and not soothed by a couple days of taking it easy…
Okay, but I’d rather just perform civil disobedience and get arrested. Your way seems long and drawn out. More “adultist”. It sounds like an idea that would need strong leadership.
one of my fav protest songs
Neither, my folks were socialist intellectuals from the MidWest. The families’ black sheep. Totally uptight. Pete Seeger, Joan Baez, Dylan Thomas poems, Robert Frost, All Things Classical music wise.
I would be stunned if you found anything that would make EW ‘unconfirmable.’
The problem isn’t getting her confirmed — Obama could allow the GOoPers to tell him who to nominate and they would oppose their own nominee. It’s just how they are.
The problem is that Wall Street doesn’t like her, not even a little bit. And on economic matters, Geithner and Summers and Bernanke have Preznit Obama’s ear. Since Wall Street doesn’t like her, Obama’s economic troika isn’t going to back her nomination.
Maybe Bernie Sanders and Russ Feingold and Al Franken can make the man see the sense in this nomination fight. But I truly believe that the first fight has to be to get her nominated. And we all know how much my fellow Hawaiian wants to listen to liberals/progressives.
it’s a great crowd! My 6-yr-old grandson & some of his little pals are eagerly awaiting star wars costumes as soon as i make a trip to the fabric store. The g-unit & i already have lightsabers, it will be so much more fun when we have the costumes! My daughter remarked that she thought when she had a son that he’d be bonding with grandpa over sports stuff … she wasn’t anticipating that she’d have a son who bonded with grandma over geek stuff. heehee!
That make sense. I was thinking about how they hire people to prep Kagan to answer questions. But how do they deal with public perceptions thrown out by the right wing media. They are always on the defensive. I want to actively court the “problems” with Warren. OR conversely find out if the conservatives want her. I think that she would be the kiss of death to conservatives but you would need to find out why they don’t like her. Harvard? Because she is seen as a liberal? On the other hand she could be used as a tool to hurt Geithner. One think I’ve learned is that you don’t know the answers until you ask the questions and then you deal with the data.
So I can spin both support for Warren and lack of support for Warren anyway I want, but I need to find it first.
I also am very very aware that it is the behind the scenes lobbying that is where the real heavy lifting happens. We could show just what a shame all their support statements are. Or, she might actually be confirmed because they already know that she is hampered by being under the Fed and under the thumb of a former ABA lobbyist.
I’m off to bed before I turn into a pumpkin.
Good night, folks.
g’nite bct
might be able to paint something onto one of these
How funny. I just had Copperhead Road blasting tonight. Told my son, ” I’m only going to blast this song. I won’t do the whole cd”. He already had it on his IPod.
I’m an intertoobs failure. STILL haven’t learned to link. FAIL
Oh, you want fun ideas for civil disobedience? Well I can do that too!
I’m going to ask you to dress up like Scrooge McDuck and chain yourself to Warren’s office in Harvard. You will have a sign that says, “Do NOT Confirm Warren! Don’t even nominate her!” The loud quacking will bring the press and the police.
i LOVE copperhead road
openhope, did you have a green folk song book? I’ve got the one my parents had. Has great variety: labor/work songs, sea chanties, spirituals, etc.
*grins* good idea
suzanne, had an emergency, how ya doin?
hey dave — was wondering where ya were.. hope all is ok? good to see ya — some nice compliments on your song upthread…
a bit of homage to steve goodman, and lincoln park pirates
My husband and I are planning a vacation together during Indian Summer. The only place I REALLY want to go is to DC to raise a ruckus. We talked about this, he’s the wage earner so he can’t do the arrest thing. I’m the former homeschool housewife with all the time in the world.
I don’t know. I get scared when I get these ideas.
everything’s fine.
people keep saying,”where are the protest songs?”
well i’m trying to do something about that.
We had a couple. The socialist atheists bible.
Your point about nominating her and what “Wallstreet wants Wallstreet gets” is interesting. I’m pretty good at playing the dumb blogger.
“When you say that Wallstreet doesn’t like her who do you mean?”
And again, part of this whole exercise is to get the “real” media to have to redo and re ask my stupid questions to confirm the beltway wisdom. You see the reports have “sources” I’ll be forced to talk to official people on the record BORING. But this also is a way to enlist the conservative media in the process. You and I know that Obama punches hippies and never gives progressives what we want without first watering down the deal to mush. As Dday has already pointed out the position, location in the fed and the boss of the head of this commission has already be given to Wall Street lovers. It’s ALREADY watered down. I think we can make it clear to the conservatives that even if Warren gets in, they have already won. They didn’t get anyone doing real WS reform and reform at the consumer level is “chump change”.
btw, before i forget — i wanna thank those that hung out last night after i bailed and took the thread over 200 — it always brings a smile to my face to see the thread continue on after i leave and ya’ll know how much i like those 200 :)
walkin’ south on la brea from sunset i see mimi farina walking north, arms outstretched and saying omygod is it you, closer i am amazed as she says, i thought you were someone else, i said i’m sorry. later i had a sandwich with her sister on the steps at a&m studios.
spocko, i think they are gonna nominate her and either (a) let her lanquish like dawn johnson or (b) hamstring the agency or her position so that she can not do the job she wants to do
One thing about Warren is that the press really like her, and they don’t like the people who would work against her. This will help when it comes to them doing their job and reconfirming the sound bites of support on non-support.
are you in la county?
thank you, suzanne for posting, i get so much back from fdl
not now but in 74, yeah
That scenario a very high probability. One thing that is difference is Warren’s high profile in the media.
tis a good song dood… tis my honor to feature it
wait for it
Night, all. The dehydrator is done [finally!] and it’s time to package tarragon.
Sweet dreams.
downstairs from dark horse records and olivia
johnny the guard, truly a gentleman
waiting
Suz where is Mary Mac? I haven’t seen her on the comments the last few days.
g’nite openhope
how cool!
john bettis, dave paradies, crossing the lot
good night suzanne, thanks again, see you soon
YOU ARE WELCOME. it was fun we talked your fav subject music and I hogged the 100 and 200 so I am laying kind of low tonight. Started reading the does and don’ts manual for Non Profit to remain tax exempt. Lot of filings to do. Need to calender them.
Dave Paradies of the Carpenters? Does stuff for Ca Water Board?
100 x 100 night
she was on last night iirc… maybe she’s busy?
g’nite dave — thanks for the song
john bettis of carpenters writing, formerly of john bettis and maury manseau prison of socrates 1965, yeah my business mgr in 70′s
great tune… brings back so many memories mac
met dave playing guitar at mccabes long beach on 7th st 65, he played back up with me and rhea at the prison and mecca and forum, had a hans christian 48 we used to play new years eve at isthmus catalina.
wow. gobsmacked wow
Rancid loves to tag Tea Party.
The Republican Tea Party contract never happened.
No politician feeds at the TPP table.
hey plove — how ya doing tonight?
Dave lives in Los Osos and we are on opposite side on the mega expensive sewer battle here. I want the chevy he wants the Rolls. Interesting he talked about managing the carpenters, made some bucks then a fews years ago sold his house and moved into an apartment.
sorry folks, but i’ve had a long day and am headed out early.
thanks dave, for the song. thanks everyone for letting me spend a wee bit of time with ya tonight and for all the other songs tonight.
g’nite all
That was great! Did Dave write the tune?
Doing just fine, Moonbeam.
How are the chemtrails out your way?
G’night Suz I off to sleep. Well wishes to all nice meeting you Dave.
night, big.
night……. Moonbeam?
yes, dave wrote the tune
bigbrother, give a shout to dave p for me