Dear Congresswoman –
You’ve been my Congressional Representative since I moved to San Francisco in 1992, and a swell one you’ve been, no doubt about it. From your first House floor speech about HIV/AIDS prevention and treatment funding to your efforts as a member of the Progressive Caucus to fight the war, torture and wiretapping machine of the Bush/Cheney era, you’ve done San Francisco proud. As a transplant to your wonderful City, I’ve been satisfied with your representation of our wacky, lefty views — as a Congresswoman.
But I’m moving away now, and I have a piece of advice I’d like you to consider. Please.
No one will ever forget your efforts as Minority Leader to stop the Social Security “reform” juggernaut of the second Bush term in its tracks — simply by not talking about it, just by refusing to offer an alternative, primarily by disengaging on the topic of “reform,” you humbled a President determined to steal even more money for his cronies than they managed to thieve from us in eight years. Thank you so very much for that.
And when you became Speaker, no one was prouder than I. Seeing you on the dais, with your giant gavel, surrounded by all the children of House members: all of San Francisco was bursting with pride, knowing that you would show America what San Francisco values were. Many of us did not realize then that your installation as Speaker would perhaps be the day we were proudest of you. Like a bride who tells everyone as she gets hitched, “This is the happiest day of my life!” we could have been warned: be careful what you wish for. Because the days since you took the gavel? Some I’m not so proud of.
Here’s a tip for America: when your Congressional Representative becomes Speaker, even more than when he or she enters the House leadership, even more than being selected Minority Leader, something happens. You lose your Congressperson. Suddenly, the person you’ve elected to Congress is second in line to the Presidency and a Constitutional officer with responsibilities to the whole country and not simply to your wacky parochial views. While I am sure Denny Hastert’s constituents, and Newt Gingrich’s, gave up something in a representative for the honor of having their congressman become Speaker, I am not so sure it was the same for us in San Francisco.
We lost a lot.
Suddenly, Mrs Pelosi, you had a table to set, and something to take off it. In the phrase that will echo down history’s halls long after your groundbreaking Speakership is no longer the only but simply the first of many non-male, non-WASP, and probably non-white wielders of that gavel, you declared about the warmongers who had barely been elected to twice lead America that “impeachment is off the table.” I’m still not sure why you did that — was there really so much else to accomplish in the two years you led the House, only to see those accomplishments either die in the Senate or be vetoed by The Dauphin? The record of your first two years in the House is sparse, in terms of actual legislative accomplishments. The president got all the war funding he asked for, and then some. The wiretapping of Americans didn’t stop. No big moments we look back on and say, “That’s where we got our country back.” Perhaps that was simply the deal presented by The Dark Side: impeach, or live. Your choice. Who knows?
And, horrifically, the table you set without impeachment, when you knew better than any of us the war crimes and illegalities that riddled The Dark Side, has morphed into an awful precedent: “looking forward not backward” is the mantra of our new Democratic president. It seems that no one will be held accountable for anything done in our name — and you know best how heinous much of that was — except for those who made sure we knew about it. The only Bush era criminals to be prosecuted will be the whistle-blowers about Bush era crimes.
This is probably your fault, actually. How could a new Democratic president encourage his Justice Department to seek out wrongdoers in our midst when the entire branch of government you headed had already decided two years prior that the constitutional remedy for wrongdoing was null and void?
It didn’t matter that your constituents had voted overwhelmingly to impeach Bush and Cheney.
It also didn’t matter that your constituents were hugely in favor of single-payer health care. It didn’t matter that your constituents — knowing as we do that the wiretap evidence is right here in our midst on Folsom Street! — wanted to see phone company executives held responsible for their lawbreaking. It didn’t matter that your constituents, in vast numbers, oppose the wars you continue to fund through special supplemental appropriations, a practice you promised to end in partnership with our new Democratic President.
And, apparently, it doesn’t matter that America, along with San Francisco, wants to eliminate discrimination in employment against non-straight peoples, whether in military or civilian life. You’ve set the table the way your majority-makers let you set it — Blue Doggie converts from Republicanism recruited by corporatist hedge fund executive Rahm Emanuel to prevail over progressive and populist Democrats who might have supported your agenda and not simply the Democratic Party’s new funders’.
If it is your agenda anymore; I’m just not sure. I know the Nancy Pelosi San Francisco sent to Congress twenty-three years ago had a proud liberal agenda. But when Speaker Nancy Pelosi stands up now for the values of the Democratic party’s Big Pharma, Big Hedge, and Big Insurance funders, I’m not sure you are our representative anymore. When Speaker Nancy Pelosi directs the rule-making to prevent floor action or amendment on any progressive issues, I’m not sure who you represent any more. San Francisco has essentially lost our voice in Congress; our representative should be among the farthest left, pulling the Democratic caucus to the progressive side, bending the arc of justice to the people. I expect our Congresswoman to work alongside Barbara Lee, Dennis Kucinich, John Lewis, and Maxine Waters to make America better for people, not corporations. San Francisco doesn’t want our representative, once in a position of power, to be able to shut down investigations into impeachable offenses by the House Judiciary Committee.
That’s not why we sent you to Washington.
You have let me down, Mrs Pelosi. And many other constituents, too. Yes, I am proud, yes — I had tears in my eyes when you took that gavel. But I would have rather had you fighting for San Francisco values than working to implement Rahm Emanuel’s agenda. I know that’s tough to hear, and it’s kind of tough to say as well. As I leave San Francisco for Portland (look out, David Wu, here I come to Oregon’s First!) I want to leave you with one message, Madame Speaker: please consider this modest proposal.
The Constitution does not require that the Speaker of the House be a Member. I strongly believe that every Congressional District deserves real representation. San Francisco deserves a real fighting liberal, way down on the seniority list though s/he may be. You don’t need to be our Congresswoman anymore. You hardly ever even vote, Madame Speaker. Please consider setting a precedent to ensure real representation for Congressional Districts whose representative becomes Speaker: resign your seat in Congress. Continue your Speakership but let San Francisco elect another representative, who can speak for The City. We need a congressional representative who can speak out on the issues that matter to your current constituents: end the wars, shrink the Pentagon, invest in schools and jobs, build a system to retrain workers, restore America’s manufacturing base, imagine and implement a new green American economy.
Empower all our citizens to build a better America by recognizing their fundamental worth as individuals under the equality guaranteed by our constitution.
While you work hard within the constraints put on any Speaker, to implement the agenda of the president who’s in your own party, please let San Francisco have real representation again.
San Francisco values really matter to America. The City needs a Congressperson again. Let San Franciscans elect someone who needn’t compromise on their every viewpoint for the sake of the Speakership. You can do this, Madame Speaker. Please make it so.
Finally, as I always close my letters and emails to you, more and more futile though they seem because of your dual role nowadays: Thank you for your service to San Francisco, to California, and to the United States of America.



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Teddy!
Teddy!
It was only a matter of time – Hamburger Mary’s – nearly the best anywhere – goes away (in what, 2001?), and you finally bailed.
Bon voyage.
Doc!
Teddy! (also) Really, how does any one know what the Other knows? Thank you for your post and thank you for your thanking her.
I told you earlier I’d say Hi tonight, so this is me saying HowDee!
Rough day for me, so I’m heading out early. Love to All Y’all!
Hamburger Mary, Suzanne — actually, lots of our friends are now Oregonians! — and the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals.
Hard to justify staying, actually.
Plus, Wu’s had primary challenges. Bears love primaries!
Hey, you!
Thanks for coming by, and good night….
Teddy!
You are leaving the Bay area? I thought the sun would rise in the west before that happened.
Hi & bye!
So, where are you going from here?
I think Pelosi is the same as she’s every been, just that it is now that her true colors are coming out. It’s easy to talk about all the things you want to do when you’re out of power, but once you’ve been given a once in a generation opporunity to walk the talk, that’s when you see where someone really stands. I believe that Rahm Emmanuel’s agenda and Nancy Pelosi’s agenda don’t differ as much as she’d like people to think that they do.
This post is a kinder and gentler sort of a way suggests that Nancy Pelosi didn’t do much and really she did. She accumulated an incredible amount of wealth. Does anyone have an inventory of how many millions of which banks stocks Nancy has in her portfolio? The notion that she has not been hard at work is categorically deniable. The question is who has she been working for?
Nancy=huge disapointment…………
Vaya con Dios, Teddy (Is that OK for a WASPwoman from ND, arguably as landlocked as one can get!, to say?)
let them eat cake
Good letter to Nancy, Teddy. I can’t imagine you living any place but SF and I hope you will be very happy in Portland – lovely city.
Though everyone is certainly entitled to their judgments and opinions. And I respect your right.
But I find this uncalled for and serving no useful purpose. A leader has responsibilities to many constituencies beyond a single district or individual.
I find your proposal potentially enfeebling of an already struggling progressive caucus. I believe history will prove Nancy Pelosi to be one of the great Progressive Democrats and most skillful of the Speakers of the House. You would deprive us of this leadership in favor of “San Frisco Agenda.” Pray tell how is that or should it be different for the rest of the country?
We have enough of splintering of us by “states rights” and unique laws and privileges.
And that’s my opinion..
HCR was the final straw
Teddy, I hope you will forgive all the impertinence in your GoodBye Nancy and San Francisco thread, and I hope you have a terrific move and a great time in Portland.
It’s a really big step to leave San Francisco.
Almost as big a step as Nancy resigning her Congressional seat to be Speaker full-time.
Almost.
We are PDX-bound.
great post, teddy. we will miss you!
PDX is what city?
teddy!
Nothing impertinent about it at all, I learned a LONG time ago: on-topic during Late Night is No Topic. But thanks for your good wishes!
We spent the afternoon strolling around our backyard (Golden Gate Park) — new feature: swallows at knee-level, swooping right up next to strollers, dogs, and bikers.
Do swallows echo-locate, does anyone know? Sure seemed like it today.
“Off the table” took Nancy out of the conversation. She has/had a sworn duty which she kicked in the ditch the first time it looked like it might cost her.
What did she do for who?
I would rather she went out in a ball of flames screaming criminal injustice but boy oh boy she got to be speaker. On her resume that will carry the same weight as Tenet’s Medal of Honor.
Portland, Oregon.
They use their airport abbreviation much more than, say, DC uses IAD (Dulles) as the city designation. Also, having an X in your name is cool, I guess.
and is a lot shorter to type :)
Her wealth, I believe, is due to her very smart and capable husband.
Although her political career is due to her very excellent fundraising skills.
Fun fact about Nancy: she ran for DNC Chair back in 1984 (iirc) and lost to Paul Kirk, the Kennedy acolyte who succeeded Teddy in the Senate.
she had much promise…
Spend some time at Powell’s Books. You will need hours to visit there. Portland is very pretty place and they have light rail too.
You mean destroy the Party in order to save it?
Multiculturalism is okay from anyone, especially someone whose contributions I value as much as yours, Prairie. We’ve been through the big battles here, haven’t we?
Well, welcome to the greater Northwest. We are fortunate to have you in the neighborhood as it were.
Lol, how magnanimous of you to respect his right to an opinion. Yes, it is indeed a shame that a constituent of the district from which she is supposed to report and represent be disappointed in the fact that she has failed him.
Yes, stiff upper lip and all that, right? After all, it is for “the good of the people”. The most fundamental responsibility for any Congressional representative is to represent their district.
She has failed to do that. She is hardly a liberal, nor has she done the progressive cause any good what so ever. She is progressive in name only, just like Obama. Corporatist democrats, plain and simple.
We’re very excited — Patrick moved to SF 22 years ago, I 18. Portland reminds us of the SF we moved to a generation ago.
My favorite billboard size official graffiti in Portland: KEEP PORTLAND WEIRD.
Which has been co-opted by our new favorite FaceBook group, also Portland-based, called Gay Boys With Beards: KEEP PORTLAND BEARD.
this is my suspicion as well. (‘you like your grandkids? wanna keep them?’)
Nancy Pelosi is no longer a member of the Progressive Caucus; as Speaker, she belongs to none. Our new Congressperson would be a leader in the Progressive Caucus.
You do understand I propose she remain as Speaker, just not as a voting Representative Member, right?
mebbe so
It makes the casual traveler wonder whether you have a thriving porn industry.
FIVE DAYS
SF’s loss is PDX’s gain – we will miss you Teddy.
Portland. Nice place. Lots of roses.
Got a somewhat analogous problem in the country for diff reasons. I still vote in the city, where useless Maloney is my rep. Were I to switch to the country, where I now spend most of my time, Hinchey would be my rep. The virtue of having 2 addresses is 2 pols to harass. Hinchey is easier bait and much more librul than Maloney, so I recently personally confronted him for being in the veal pen since O was elected, whereupon he insulted me (he doesn’t know where I vote, so I thought he chose an inappropriate tactic, LOL.) Sigh. Wish there was an easy way out, but when Pelosi & Hinchey cave (at least Pelosi has power as an excuse), I kinda think all is really lost.
We are three blocks from Powell’s, a big decider for our apt selection.
Yup.
well ganite all
I hope you will rethink that. It is to serve the Constitution and the country. We have too much splintering as it is. Individual States rights is a much beloved Conservative value. They fought The Civil War to over it hoping to preserve their peculiar “domestic arrangements.” They lost.
May all you left-leaning progressive San Franciscans rot in hell for sending that off-the-tabling, Blue-Dog enabling, ~~~EDITED IN MODERATION~~~ back to congress when you could have replaced her with Cindy Sheehan (and by a humiliating margin, at that). If she couldn’t really represent you as Speaker, why did you have to inflict her on the rest of us?
Damn! I’ve been wanting to say that to one of you since the election. Thanks for the opportunity.
Enjoy the move.
If SF can’t have ONE rep, you can’t have TWO. *g*
KEEP PORTLAND WEIRD
That is also a popular slogan here in Missoula. FWIW, my father’s younger brother, who I have long suspected was gay (nobody would talk about it and he died when I was 8, so I have never found out for sure), lived in Portland and seemed to enjoy it a lot. He entered a beard growing contest one year and just kept it.
I think it must have been in August-September 2007 that I gave up on Pelosi. August was when Mike McConnell ran his scare scam just before the Congressional August break and Pelosi caved and passed a quickie extension allowing for a workaround FISA. In September, there was supposed to be the big showdown over Iraq with the Petraeus report which never materialized. There was her taking impeachment off the table. Her dismissive comment to the effect that people like her led while people like us advocated. BTW if anyone has a link to the original of her saying that it would be much appreciated. For years now, I have just assumed that anything she said that sounded halfway progressive was just something to placate the rubes. She was never going to act on it. After her most recent treachery in sneaking in the resolution calling for an up or down vote on the cat food commission, I called for a write in campaign or third party challenge against her, on the sole issue of her trying to gut Social Security. It surprised me no end that Netroots Nation invited her and Reid to their conference, evidence I took that that organization wasn’t a serious progressive vehicle.
niters
Most excellent letter, Teddy…! *g*
I voted for Cindy Sheehan, something you could have bothered to determine before hurling your invective.
Sounds like a gay PDXer to me.
National beard growing contest is based in Portland or Washington. Much beardiness.
I can vote for only one, but I can harass 2. Think about it as being twice as useless.
From this vantage point it looked more like a Democratic Party pep rally. There were lots of serious discussions about issues, but the keynotes all seemed to be Democratic Party operatives or their, umm, acolytes.
Nancy Pelosi is my heroine. Yes, she could have pushed further left issues, but she had to have the votes. She worked hard for every vote she got on the issues we like. Americans go with a winner, not a loser. So if she’d pushed a lot of lefty issues (which she clearly did) beyond what she could win, it would have been like losing. Yes, we have so much to do. Wikileaks speaks volumes, and we’ll all look forward to seeing where that trail leads.
As you say, Teddy: TROOPS OUT NOW
Oddly enough, that’s right next door to the ZZ Top Lookalike Contest.
Duh. Sorry.
That would be PDXXX.
OT, but I spent the weekend getting high (all natural and legal!). It really is rough living 3 hours from Glacier National Park.
i had so much fun exploring powell’s when you guys were up here — and we only covered what — half of it?
Leaving the Bay Area in very capable FDL hands, as it were.
My uncle could have entered that.
Now that Monsieur F-thrower has anointed me a “dangerous shit-throwin’ lunatic” I don’t know how much my opinion matters but thanks for sharing your terrific letter, Teddy. :)
SF’s loss will be Portland’s gain! They’re both great cities and not so terribly far apart that you can’t visit regularly if you wish.
Of course she officially belongs to no caucus though is important to that caucus, ie the progressives in the House.
Yes I understand your proposal but vigorously disagree with the notion that any individual or state’s agenda should be different from that of the nation. I expect my representative to bring information that is unique to our region but would hope he/she would advocate for the nation.
I wish you well in Portland. I have a cousin in the Oregon State House. Lots of good people there.
I really need to go to bed here in the East but did want to hang around and not just do a drive by.
Good luck
If you grow a beard will you please send pictures. And I envy you being so close to Powell’s. I order from them occasionally.
Portland is totally cool. You like the ocean so get over to Canon Beach. I like in the winter because the surf is so violent. Swallows do not echo-locate, that is, no sonar. Their extreme acrobatics are due to their tail configuration and their courage.
On Nancy’s wealth, I am have not done the research but her voting on the bailouts and her silence on those crimes tracked her portfolio.
Never heard her say anything that sounded like Patrick Henry.
Thanks, I’ve given this proposal a lot of thought.
I think it’s workable, actually.
The next step, of course, would be for the House to choose a Speaker who isn not actually a representative at all. Giving new hope to Newt, I suppose.
Unfortunately I hear that GNP has quite a bit less in the way of actual glaciers than it once did.
Well, in order to maintain the majority, she has to do a tap-dance.
Maloney is applying her late-to-the-party 911 worker skills to the Gulf workers’ toxic workplace standards and environment, though. She’s got lots of room to improve, and a truly odious Wall Street primary challenger, so maybe she’ll show some progressive spine.
ha-ha!
I don’t think any birds echo locate. Swallows are pretty incredible though, not to mention slightly disconcerting.
I’ll be afk for much of the coming week, please use THN frequently.
I have a feeling it will be on-topic for lots of this week’s FDL posts.
If that the criteria, she’s better than Gene Kelly.
LOL, my point is would it be asking too much for what is ostensibly a progressive venue to actually be progressive? Jane coined the term veal pen so it was somewhat surprising the deep involvment of fdl in the conference.
Not surprised about that. After all, what are the venues?
We sent speakers, but we didn’t organize NN. This was not our decision.
Hunh?
I think you have to know what the opposition is doing in order to make them think a bit. Besides, Kos shouldn’t be allowed to dominate the group. He’s already sold out.
I would not worry too much. As John Jay Chapman wrote:
Friends close and enemies closer, I suppose. I doubt if many of the kossacks and others who routinely flame Jane and FDL ponied up the admission fee, so reception was probably not as hostile as one might have feared.
All too true, but from where I was in that picture I could see much of what is left of Grinnell Glacier. There are estimates that there may be no more glaciers in GNP within 20-50 years. That is the worst case scenario, but truly sobering, nonetheless.
The Lakota believed that they were sacred to the Thunder God and you would be struck by lighting if you harmed one.
Wow.
As Tina Fey’s youngster says, “I want to go to there.”
I recall driving with my little brother from Vancouver to Montana in one day, but we only have one driver in our family now.
Great pic.
“Do not enter the heart of the evil beast…”
Where have we heard that before?
Aside from these comment threads, I’m drawing a blank.
This afternoon I had the temerity to suggest there are no actual progressives in Congress, which set Citizen Norske all a-froth.
About 10% I’d guess.
Lotsa rainy-day opportunities there, I hope.
Yep.
Gettin’ late for me so see y’all tomorrow.
I heard those estimates too–I think they were mentioned on an episode of Nova that looked at global ice loss. Pretty sobering stuff, if (unlike the climate deniers) you have the brains and the honesty to put two and two together.
With Markos running the whole show, Hugh…? What else would one expect…? ;-)
The Lakota were so wise. I wish more of their beliefs regarding causality had panned out, it would have made the Ghost Dance even more impressive.
And FAST as fuck.
They look like daytime bats, with their swooping. Very low to the ground, in very crowded public parks. Must have been an eating bonanza to be so much around all the dogs, etc.
It is not a bad drive from Portland. Glacier is one of my favorite places on earth. Everywhere you look there is stunning scenery. My buddy and I were saying yesterday, as we had our near death experience from hiking up to where that picture of me was taken, that it is our cathedral.
And some of the best FDL-based programs were not accepted by the Netroots Nation powers-that-be. Spocko and me, particularly.
Ahhhh. That explains all. A rather incendiary gentleman at times.
It made me laugh, actually. I didn’t feel compelled to conform to the expectations of others when I was young, even less so now.
And lots of rainy days to take them.
I applaud his passion but don’t often attempt to engage.
The hotel at Many Glacier (in the park) has a photographic display showing the dramatic reduction in Grinnell Glacier since 1890. Pretty freaking sobering.
Oh, ratty, don’t feel like the Lone Ranger….
g’nite, CAHN
Wiki – retreat of Grinnell Glacier – scroll down
On the other hand, you and I, and most of the folks here, would not be around. If they had succeeded, the Indian dead would have returned, along with the bison, the earth would have been recovered with a new layer of earth to the height of 3 men, and all the non-Indians would have disappeared.
In fairness, Netroots Nation is no longer a Markos production, although he is certainly an Honored Guest and Elder of the Tribe in attendance. Completely independent from the website, though….
Yes, but if a Democratic pseudo-progressive Markos is running the show, I am not sure why real progressives should bother with it.
And heart breaking. Seems like I read an official estimate of when Glacier Park will be glacier free but don’t recall the figure.
Likewise.
I came late to that thread and made a comment quite similar to yours before I went back through and found the one of yours that had upset Norske so.
Arguably not such a bad thing…
I am presuming that you watched Marcy’s Gitmo panel, and dday’s incredible panel with Elizabeth Warren, and found them lacking sufficient “Progressiveness”, correct?
What do you mean, sold out?
I could live with that, no wait…
Sometimes I imagine the earth healing itself after the reign of humans has passed. I don’t actually wish for it but find the notion somewhat comforting.
The photos there are from the exhibit I mentioned above, which also includes others. Still lots of critters around. Saw bighorn sheep, mountain goats (from about 3 feet away), elk, a black bear (from quite a distance), and a young grizzly (from closer than I care to be, it crossed the road right in front of our car about 4 feet ahead of us).
I think he might have stomped out and slammed the door before your arrival. The good news is now I can add “provocateur” to my resumĂ©… if I ever get around to drafting one.
Congrats on the century, dood.
True, but from a purely selfish perspective …..
*heh* He certainly does live up to his nom de plume…! ;-)
Yay, I’m SOMEbody now! :)
Indeed, it was an inspired choice. :)
Point taken. Still, I can’t blame them for wishing.
grrr bears
Happy Birthday Jane.
hiya eCAHN —
Harrassing federal politicians is no longer restricted to constituents within their districts. They don’t care of those voters anymore, only their re-election campaign bribery bagmen.
Too bad the French don’t have a word for that….
To think that I knew you before you made it big!
Congratulations on 100!
Hey there!
Hey teddy — best wishes on your relocation to the Land of Suzanne
lol! They’re SO dumb. Mmmm, pretzels…
A large part of our decision, knowing she’d be closer by.
Many friends have made the trek, it seemed like the right thing.
Not sure David Wu is ready for me, though….
It’s been real, kids, but it’s time for me to shuffle off to read in bed. Until next time, peace out, y’all!
Not really, members of my family trend toward low and wide.
Ooh… That rhymes…! ;-)
Oh my! Muchas gracias! I’ll let you do the honors, I can’t bring myself to cut such an elegant cake.
Is Wu the rep in the house for that district?
As cute and cuddly as the two-legged kind are, the four-legged variety are really quite impressive and potentially very dangerous. The young grizzly was especially so, because he was a yearling and his momma was undoubtedly close by. You do not want to get between a momma grizzly and her cub. I am not sure that even our SUV would have protected us if she got pissed off.
Nighters!
I don’t have a fast connection. I read the liveblogs. Any of us who have written on and followed the Guantanamo story and the habeas and other filings know how bad it is. But the big takeaway from that panel was “No change.” Re the HAMP panel, the liveblog did not mention cramdowns. Without cramdowns, the housing crisis can not be fixed.
Mr. Teddy, I read every word of that letter. I can’t recall that I’ve ever read every word of a firedoglake piece if it was very very long; and yours is very very long. I came to FDL for its breakthrough reportage. It’s not unique for that. I stayed for its excellent writing. Great job. Don’t be shy about emailing me like Miss Jane and Miss Marcy have done to make me poorer for FDL’s sake.
Just made sense, especially in the transition between LN and LLN at the Lake.
It’s a paradox!
G’nite EDP. I should head out too. Thanks for hosting LN Teddy. Congratulations to you and Patrick, may abundant good fortune await you in your new home.
Thanks to Frank33 for the tip. Happy Birthday, Jane!
Wishing a splendid evening to all.
Incorrect. There was a lot of specific language about it, and Merkley pointed out that he wished for a better name, which they used for the rest of the panel. Warren referred to it specifically, and referenced anxious and impatient real estate agents as a possible driving force behind what would be an eventual cram-down.
Your kind words mean more than you can ever know, thank you so much.
Please feel free to hit the donate button whenever you are so moved, and able.
Thank you. Really. Your mention of me in the same sentence as Marcy and Jane means a lot. Sincerely.
Night, rf. Give Bob a peck for me. Time for me to toddle off as well. take care all.
You know it must be cosmic karma or something but you get one of those everytime two doctors get together.
*the land of suzanne* laughing
thanks — i think
The mortgage crisis cannot be fixed until people decide to walk away from their overpriced loans.
Hugh, Did you see Mish’s recent post – William Black’s perspective on the coming FDIC crisis?
Well, that’s nice. As I pointed out in the comments, the White House and Wall Street oppose cramdowns because they would expose the insolvency of the banks and the huge losses the government has assumed in buying MBS and parking them at the Fed and Fannie and Freddie. It will take a lot more than some pissed off real estate agents to overcome that kind of opposition.
And until bankers are convinced that further access to the Fed discount window is predicated on their capability to work with borrowers to keep them in their newly-devalued homes at monthly prices they can afford.
It’s absurd that we’ve saved bankers thinking that saved the system. The system’s health depends on America’s financial health, savings, spending, and home-security. Entirely unrelated to bank bonuses, in my view.
Keeping zombie banks alive will go down in history as our elite’s biggest error of the century, the War On Iraq notwithstanding.
No, but I will. The FDIC has started some weird ass refinancing plan because of all the bank failures it has had to deal with. Then there is commercial real estate which could sink a lot of local banks. It’s out there circling much like the shark in Jaws.
Was thinking more of the simple act of standing for something. You are familiar with the ME war refrain of we kill one and the next ten argue over who gets to take his place. Who wants to emulate Nancy? Pas moi, mon frere.
The bankers saved themselves at the expense of the system, not to save the system itself.
I only contribute when I’m asked personally by a bot.
Let me pile on, please? I happen to sympathize with the Speaker’s awful situation. I was a faculty representative to our College Council, and I was so effective that I was elected as the Council’s chair. My effectiveness vanished, and I was perceived as a tool of the administration. Oh, and by the way, I’m a retired English professor (lots of rhetorical teaching). That is to say, my bias always favors good writing.
They couldn’t reform the banking center without giving up a lot of their power. I was trying to find a quote I think by Martin Luther King where he says that history is the sad story of the privileged being unable to give up any of their power.
Miss Sweetie-Q! Hey! I hope your cheeks hurt enough from laughing to ease the back or make you forget it. You doing okay?
Ten…? Maybe that’s why we killed so many #2′s…! ;-)
Rightio. I worked with my bank for 14 months on a modification, and they couldn’t see fit to do so. I walk.
So I need to send you an email to ask for a donation?
Great MLK quote!
thanks for asking aitch — back is back down to its usual dull roar :)
The King quote I was looking for:
Christian Century Magazine (1957)
I’m wondering when FDL and all of the other lefty blogs will call for an uprising. Could be spectacular.
Get Warren in.
CTuttle is upstairs!
Late, Late Night FDL: Naturally
Yes, but it has to persuade me to contribute, I mean on its merits. I’ve ignored more FDL solicitations than I’ve responded to because I didn’t ‘agree’ with the particular partisan purpose. I’ve contributed a lot, though, but not many times. If you ask for money to support your journalistic work (even indirectly), that would be persuasive. Of course I only contribute to firedoglake as such.
Do you know (of) the singer/musician Melody Gardot? Her pain therapy stories are wonderful stories. Wikipedia has a pretty thorough account.
Well, any and all donations at the link support all of FDL.
I really appreciate your kind comments as well as any additional support you can provide to FDL. You clearly know what we do here, and you’ve supported us before, as you say. So I’m not sure what additionally I could say that would convince you to add to your generous, and much appreciated, donations so far.
I know I’m probably way late on this thread, but if you’re that close to Powell’s, then we’re neighbors, brother.
Okay, I clicked here and donated. Can I go to sleep now? I’m four time zones towards your next sun.
Best wishes for your move!
Likewise. I live on the South Park blocks next to the art museum.
Welcome to Portland Teddy, you’ll find David Wu to be a D-party hack, and spend a lot of time longing for DeFazio to switch districts. :-)
That said, we’ve got world-class beer, wine, and booze. When you get here, drinks are on me.
One of my cousins has worked for Powell’s for a zillion years.
I was born in Portland, but raised at the beach in So Cal from the age of 7.
You can have Portland. Even as child I hated the rain, the dampness, the gloom. Me pray to sun god!
Very cool, I can’t wait for my first FDL/PDX meetup!
Wow, that’s a very cool place to live, we looked in that neighborhood. It’s lovely on the park blocks, and PAM is a blast. Did you see Disquieting Art, I think it was called? Or perhaps it was Disturbing. Very unsettling, some large pieces, lots of fun though.
See you when we have an FDL/PDX meetup!
Thank you for your continued generous support, it’s what keeps FDL going.
Sleep well….
she supported both wars
she is a war monger like the rest of congress
and you call her great
visit iraq and afghan and find out how great she really is with her money from congress to kill and harm these people.
I bet the germans congradulated themselves over and over during the early years of hitler.
americans wake up we causing suffering all over the world.
as one japanese woman stated when americans bombed her home.
“I hate war”: she stated but I bet she did not hate war that much when her nation was killing 100′s of thousands of people from other nations.
I never called Pelosi ‘great.’
I called her ‘swell.’
Did you even read my post?
Took us until 181 to reach Godwin’s Law, though. Thanks for the Hitler reference. I guess.
Voted for Sheehan and writing a love letter to Pelosi. Makes sense. Now, why didn’t I think to ask?
If the whole idea of the post was to point out the dichotemy and inherent contradiction, you could have said so. Instead, you wrote an encomium to that polluter (-trix?) of congress. My humble apology for not asking. What difference does it make?
This could easily apply to most of the Democrats in Congress. John Conyers, for example, should have a version of this delivered to him.
In the Everglades, you get to see flocks of them drinking on the wing. Barely ruffles the surface.
How did you do that without invective? I got censored.
Conyers pretty well destroyed his credibility for her…as did the head of the Florida ACLU. And it just gets better and better. Consider that non-vote on Afghanistan funding (and teacher pay) she just engineered.
I think history will prove Nancy to have been one of the most effective leaders of this chaotic and really dangerous era of our government. However I have no problem with bringing down a leader or a party if there is a more effective and democratic movement able to replace her/him/it. I see lots of progressive talk by those outside government but no action.
Yep :-) It was called “Disquieted.” Very interesting exhibit.
The “China Design” exhibit before it was fascinating as well. A look into the modern design, art, and pop-art facets of the new Chinese culture.
Definitely looking forward to meeting up!
Did you READ the damn letter?
Jeebus.