One of Mr. McBobo’s favorite techniques is to take a position held by conservatives, and without any empirical evidence, declare that this is how All Americans Think.
Today, McBobo looks at the financial reform bill, and the health care bill and concludes:
When historians look back on this period, they will see it as another progressive era. It is not a liberal era — when government intervenes to seize wealth and power and distribute it to the have-nots. It’s not a conservative era, when the governing class concedes that the world is too complicated to be managed from the center. It’s a progressive era, based on the faith in government experts and their ability to use social science analysis to manage complex systems.
This progressive era is being promulgated without much popular support. It’s being led by a large class of educated professionals, who have been trained to do technocratic analysis, who believe that more analysis and rule-writing is the solution to social breakdowns, and who have constructed ever-expanding networks of offices, schools and contracts.
Already this effort is generating a fierce, almost culture-war-style backlash.
Uh, really?
6/30 Kaiser poll on health care reform bill: Favorable 48, Unfavorable 41
6/17 Gallup poll on expanding government regulation of Wall Street: Favor 55, Oppose 41
And the reason the health care bill is less popular than it should be because the most popular aspect of it – the public option – was gutted. If people are skeptical of the financial reform bill, it’s not because they’re worried about McBobo’s technocratic meddlers mucking up the system–66% of Americans think there should be stricter regulations of Wall Street.
The bottom line? There is plenty of popular support for more government — except in the make-believe America of McBobo’s mind and Teabagger rallies.




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It’s usually safe to say that McBobo is nothing if not wrong.
Reinforcing the Beltway Village beliefs is often a by-product of that.
Well, the tea baggers and David can go to Cuba. Or France. Or where evah!
David Brooks? What a joke… for a real take-down of his methods, read this piece in Philadelphia Magazine:
Boo-Boos in Paradise. Wayne-bred David Brooks is the public intellectual of the moment. But our writer found out he doesn’t check his facts.
It is devastating.
Of course. Ideas generated in a black box shouldn’t be expected to have much in common with reality.
Shit! Did I just say love it or leave it? I’m in big trouble.
Send ‘em to Somalia, where their “ideas” are already in practice.
At the moment, I feel like one of those Muppet Monsters who run around in circles shrieking What’r We Gonna Do?
The anointed commentary class have never been known for their intelligence.
Perfectly understandable behavior for a modern progressive.
Well, that and I just got in from the back yard where I have been pulling weeds in the full sun. Counts as exercise, right? Plus, I sweated a whole bunch. Heart’s still pounding. pant, pant, pant.
That’s really good news. I’m assuming the financial institutions that took down the multiple $Trillions are going to cut us all checks, then?
Hey McBobo: We’re waiting.
Sure, that’s the way the whole concept of the Silent Majority came into being. A minority of conservatives aligned with the John Birch Society decided their views were held by a majority of Americans except this majority was too afraid to speak up because they thought they were a minority.
Just keep using the term Silent Majority long enough and loud enough and like any other piece of propaganda, voila, il est ne.
Okay, friends, you know that the sun’s got to me, ’cause I’m thinking about this song about tights.
According to people like McBobo, all right thinking people are conservatives and teabaggers. Anybody who doesn’t agree with them is afflicted or a dirty fucking hippie and therefore not worth notice.
Perfect!
He loves those young men with animal spirits who make Wall Street go.
Wouldn’t you know that Mel would get it right?
Gah and Ack. My head’s gonna burst. Must. Lay. Down.
Bobo needs to read the polls. Of course it would be a terrible shock to find that the nation is left-leaning. But he would ignore it anyway.
Found a place in Austin, with 2 acres with 2 houses for $80,000.
LOL Ironic ain’t it?
He’s pretty smart and sacregligous too.
Afternoon, all-
I think Brooks is a symptom, not a cause. Journalism since Reagan’s 2nd term has devolved into a simple recitation of opposing viewpoints, bereft of any factual analysis of which point may actually be true. Can’t have our media being called “liberal”, you know? The “truth” is now considered a mean point between views, no matter how extreme or ludicrous. The farther out and more extreme the Right gets, the more it drags the Conventional Wisdom with it. Facts don’t matter, since no one except the blogs is going to check them anyway, and processing facts requires critical thought-that hoity-toity elitist ivory tower education stuff, that all Real Americans know is just liberal Commie indoctrination, unnecessary and contemptible for a real American. Brooks and his ilk have a stark choice-embrace the new reality, or become an unemployed relic of What Once Was.
No doubt they send thrills up his leg. Or Tweety’s….Is there really any difference between them?
Wow! Not bad! I knew the market’s been losing value but that’s unheard of.
It’s not just Bobo. The conviction they represent everyone is a central belief of all wingnuts. This is far more flattering than the truth–that they are a creepy minority of mostly white males with a fondness for catastrophic policies.
The farther to the right you go, the deeper you will find this Bizarro World belief. It’s just part of the right-wing psyche. Even the folks at StormFront probably believe the world secretly agrees with them.
Well, I have no idea what the neighborhood looks like, and I’d have to sell my home and, well, the real sticky thing is my son has two more years of high school yet. It’d be a rough deal to pull him out now. We’re thinking seriously about taking early retirement after he goes to college. Then, we can go anywhere and do anything we want.
For myself, I was simply astonished about the quality of the Sunday shows earlier this week. If I had known Gregory of all people was going to take on Cornyn and Session’s ludicrous claims about GOP obstruction, I might have watched. I’ll bet next Sunday he will have had a visit from people who have told him that if he wanted to keep getting invited to the parties, he’d back off and show proper deference to his Republican interviews.
Do you have a link? I can help you with the neighborhood.
I watched “Broadcast News” again for the first time in a long time last night. It still holds true.
You’re probably right. The band must play on, regardless of how fast the ship is sinking.
Bassdudedog! I’ve been thinking of tv/newspapers/mags as mediaocrity.
And places like CNN, FOX and MSNBC who are eager to give them platforms from which to put those views forth.
Fading now. Will look up again and email ya. Wish I had a crystal ball to know what the next two years will look like. I hate gambling, have I said that?
(((demi)))
If you haven’t seen Perry’s videos, look him up (under his name at google). Dude’s cute and clever. (No, really Perry, you can pay me later. :)
And regardless of what, (or who), is sinking it….
No big. Whenever you get to it. :)
Fine. But, ya know two houses? Get it? Ya knows?
The lemmings all agree that cliffs are bad, and that the cliff seems to be getting closer; then they all resume the march on cue.
Thanks for the thought demi but if I’m still unemployed two years from now, I honestly doubt that I’ll be in a position to move into one of them. You’re very sweet though. :)
Wow. Well said. And it’s worse because they constantly denigrate and ridicule those of us who don’t want to follow them over that cliff.
Oh, I was thinking we could finish your book, have a huge garden and start a handywomen biz together. A girl can dream, can’t she? While the mister gets to do music. It’d be the start of the FDL commune I’ve been talking about here.
Pretty freaky for a nice Methodist gal?
Tea Party Patriots stuck it to Biden and Pelosi at a Democritter Rally in Philadelphia yesterday.
Even the MSMorons photoed the TPP dancing up a storm.
Lovely sight to behold.
That sounds like a wonderful dream Demi. :)
We will need to be able to produce our own food and electricity.
That would be correct. Wind power, solar power and chickens!
Wow, BT. Congratulations on ridding yourself of your daily troll infestation.
Yep. And, sadly, the means to keep and defend it.
I also found 5 acres outside of Austin for $40,000. We could find the means, and I already have Southern Dragon tapped for security.
We are here in the Austin area as is the incredible BT.
Wowzers. So is Revbev and Perry Logan. It’s always nice to have a Plan B, isn’t it?
It appears ONLY the Tea Party’s objections are heard in the higher counsels of Gov’t these days for some reason? Maybe, it’s because they have the proper Corp. backing? Whatever, were ( progressives) all but invisible that’s for sure. No matter how large our actual numbers.
You could live in big, wonderful tents and not even have to build a house. I’ve always wanted to try that.
Not much house cleaning and lots of fresh air.
I would live in the FDL DFH commune.
Governing structures in a commune tend toward one of two: the benevolent dictatorship of the primary landowner, or a buy-in of shares with a two-tier council. Same problems as always, though, with some people making decisions for others.
It has been my experience that tents get kind of old after a week or so.
Inexpensive way to live though. We can do anything if we have to and there soon may be lots of people who would be grateful for a tent. Of course there will be thousands of rules about where they could put tents. At any rate, it’s better than no shelter. You might like it if all of the Lake went to Demi’s 40 acres together. “g”
Tents also aid mobility, a nice thing in a fragmenting society.
I’d like it-I don’t know if Demi would! That’s a pretty big Lake to have show up at your place.
We not only could start our own party, we could have our own city !
Brooks is living in a surreal, bastardized logic, fantasyland and is attempting to blame progressives for the two pathetic HCR and FinR bills.
Most conservatives these days feel the way Brooks writes in this column bc that’s what they’ve been told to believe by shills like Brooks and his bff’s RushGlenn.
Attempting to discuss this meaningfully with conservatives is head banging bc even the smartie conservatives will just repeat talking points endlessly as if they’re facts and “everyone” agrees with them (at least “everyone” who’s conservative, and that’s all that counts).
Tea Partiers are “heard” in the higher eschelons bc the higher eschelons have been writing the talking points that Tea Partiers are spewing forth (with no thought for the meaning of which they speak).
And so: on it goes…
He is such a hypocrite. In spite of the veneer of erudition he is consistently a tea-bagger of the worst kind. He also predicted, in one of his columns in the NYT that “…Obama will not win”. Yet he makes the circles of talk shows as if he has something original to say! What an ass!
Everyone hates government because the government can take away your “liberty”. And for some reason these jokers won’t admit that private institutions (especially employers) can take away your liberty as well. When challenged, the response is “You can get another job.” To which my response is “You can go to another country.” If you want to get picky about how free you are, you can punch the prison guard and argue that although you are going to suffer the consequences, the prison has not taken away your liberty.
Everyone does not hate the government, but David Brooks has an agenda that says that everyone should because the “government can take away your liberty”.
As usual, Bobo attempts to clothe his extremism in understatement – “a fierce, almost culture-war-style backlash”, it is most definitely a fierce, culture war extremist response, but only from the obstructionist GOP – as well as by pretending that he is just passing on what everybody knows. His wisdom is received only by a narrow elite and the faithful they mysteriously dominate, not by a majority of middle Americans.
Most Americans want to have faith that their government will do the right thing – arrest or spy on them only with probable cause; pass unemployment benefit extensions in the midst of a depression; update the GI bill in light of the warfare we ask our men and women to repeatedly engage in, in light of the depression, in light of the inflation in college costs, which have risen much faster than overall inflation for decades. They just haven’t seen much government behavior that merits faith, in the past ten years or the past fifty.
Most egregiously, Mr. Brooks pretends that Americans think that government is the problem, not the cure, when it is bad, obstructionist government run for the elite and not the masses that is the problem. If government really were the problem, I would expect the oil giants to give back their unearned tax subsidies and the intel and military outsourcing industries to stop doing business with it. When they line up to do that, I’ll start believing Mr. Brooks.
One of Mr. Brooks literary bugaboos is “the expert”, but only when s/he is employed by government and when their job is to make government run better or to regulate business excesses.
When the expert might advocate for consumer interests or replace an industry lobbyist as head of a government agency, the expert is bad. When the expert operates on Mr. Cheney’s heart or Mr. Brooks’ brain, then being an expert is just fine. That’s just garden variety ruthless selfishness and hypocrisy dressed up in the New York Times masthead.
And David, we hate YOU TOO..
Very well said.
Hey, thanks for using one of the pics I shot at a teabagger rally here in San Francisco! Glad to be associated with Firedoglake.
Mr. Brooks displays his considerable neocon ability to project onto others his and his patrons’ worst traits. His basic point is that if middle America gets uppity – if it votes with its feet or pitchforks instead of levers – because of the failings of the federal government, it will not be because the center-right Obama was too slow, too hesitant to rock the boat, too conflict averse.
It will not be because the neocons’ intentionally trashed the place while sending limitless resources to their corporate cronies, and intentionally obstructed cleaning it up.
It will be because government professionals – talented working stiffs, dedicated to the proposition that the laws are meant to be obeyed by high and low alike, and believers in government having a constructive role to play in everyday life – screwed it all up. Putz. A small one at that.
Mr. Brooks, in his favorite mocking tone, describes it as a Herculean effort, beyond the reach of anyone not half a god, to determine which banks and financial practices are TBTF and therefore ought to be broken up or tightly regulated. (Presumably, only the unregulated market can do that, without government involvement, but with taxpayer, i.e., government, bail-outs.)
That comment proves again that Mr. Brooks was never more right than when he said he knew nothing about finance or economics. The financial system’s problems are complex, but they are not as complex as the establishment’s attempts to hide them, such as by using financial tests that stress the public’s credulity, but which do not honestly or accurately evaluate banks’ solvency or the level of risk some of their games involve.
Honesty and accuracy of reporting are not part of Mr. Brooks’ propaganda; for him, they are vulnerabilities to attack and attributes to belittle and confuse with opinion.
I always get a kick out of the Tea Party people who say how much they hate the Government but uh….yea, they are on Medicaid and uh….they want them to do things locally around them….and uh….when a Republican is in office they stay quiet
Idiots