It’s hard to consider this the most serious indignity that liberals have been forced to suffer since the start of the supposed Democratic-majority era a year and a half ago, but chalk it up as adding insult to injury, in more ways than one (via The Hill):
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) will put forth his party’s case for regaining its congressional majorities this fall during a speech Thursday in Washington…. In his remarks, the Kentucky Republican will say his party was portrayed as broken and beaten down following the swearing-in of President Obama in 2009, but is ready to lead again in 2010.
… “We shared [ordinary Americans'] frustration. And we girded for the fight, confident that we had supporters behind us. We broke out of the Washington echo chamber and fought the government-driven solutions that Democrats were proposing. We got our groove back.“
I’ve been more lenient than many of the writers here in assessing Barack Obama’s shortcomings as President, but allowing Mitch McConnell to think he has anything resembling a “groove”… well, that’s just unforgivable.
But that’s what happens when you cede control of the political debate as Obama and the Democrats have done. An article in the New York Times today accidentally underlines this point through the surreal, what-planet-are-they-on feeling generated by the lead paragraphs:
If passage of the financial regulatory overhaul on Thursday proves anything about President Obama, it is this: He knows how to push big bills through a balky Congress. . .
. . . The financial regulatory bill is the final piece of a legislative hat trick that also included the stimulus bill and the landmark new health care law. Over the last 18 months, Mr. Obama and the Democratic Congress have made considerable inroads in passing what could be the most ambitious agenda in decades.
Mr. Obama has done what he promised when he ran for office in 2008: he has used government as an instrument to try to narrow the gaps between the haves and the have-nots. He has injected $787 billion in tax dollars into the economy, provided health coverage to 32 million uninsured and now, reordered the relationship among Washington, Wall Street, investors and consumers.
Of course, as the story admits, things sure don’t feel that way to the average person. Why? Because when faced with corporatist objections, the Obama administration allowed each of the initiatives the NYT mentions to be emasculated to the point of ineffectiveness, just for the sake of being able to say they “passed something.”
The natural result is that the people who most wanted Obama to achieve the progressive goals he campaigned on feel betrayed and discouraged. The Obama administration is signaling that they think the Democratic majorities in Congress can survive the midterm elections if they manage to make the voting a referendum on the Republicans’ unchanged priorities:
Obama said he is responsible for instilling the recovery, but stressed that policies enacted by previous GOP-controlled Republicans and former President George W. Bush left the economy in a recession.
“What I’m absolutely convinced of is that we’re going to have a choice, not just in November but for years to come,” he said. . . .“This is going to be a choice between the policies that got us into this mess and my policies that are getting us out of this mess.”
But having made so little concrete forward progress, how can Obama & Co. expect their base voters to be energized by such a choice? Who’s going to rally behind the banner of continuing to be stuck in neutral, if only because it’s better than slipping into reverse?
As Jon Walker pointed out yesterday, even if they portray themselves as the victims of Republican (and faux-centrist Democratic) obstruction in the Senate, Obama and the Democrats will likely take the blame for letting themselves be boxed in by it (remember, Obama served in the Senate, so it’s not like he didn’t know who he’d be dealing with).
Atrios suggested a while back that Democrats should tackle the political challenge of the weak economy head-on, introducing a major jobs bill and campaigning on it even if it doesn’t pass. I’d go him one better and say that when it fails, they should openly campaign on filibuster reform, giving the dry “process issue” flesh and blood by saying this is what will let them pass a jobs bill, and a public option for healthcare, and… well, all the politically (and substantively) positive things that Obama foolishly didn’t push harder for when he had the chance.
That’s the only way Democrats will earn any credit for truly being for the things they so often claim to support. It may not outweigh the electoral anvil of a nearly 10% unemployment rate, but at least it will give core Democratic voters a reason to hope, and believe that they might be able to create change. Remember when those used to be important?




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Swopa – did you see this before your post went up?
Obey: White House Suggested Cutting Food Stamps to Pay for Education Program
To survive, the Dems better learn them some Maslow…
The fact that Dems have been so contemptuous of the voters in an election year does not bode well for 2011… assuming any Dems are left in office.
I am just as sick as can be about always having to vote for the lesser of two evils. I am absolutely fed up with so called Democrats continuing some of the most egregious, anti ordinary citizen policies that the Republicans put into practice. I couldn’t be more disgusted with the fact that we are still fighting two wars. Words cannot describe the horror I feel at the Democrats’ push to cut Social Security. I couldn’t be more disappointed in most of the legislative capitulations that the Democrats have done and continue to do. It’s impossible for me to be more contemptuous of the continued lack of spinal fortitude shown by the Democrats in Congress and finally, it would gall me to no end to prove Rahm right and have Progressives “come home in the end” and support this bunch of turncoats and cowards. I don’t know what the answer is. I’m increasingly of the opinion that what the answer isn’t however, is giving Republicans control. Whatever I choose to do, it’s going to suck and I’m going to be unhappy.
Izzat so? Well, then, the White House can kiss my ass.
O doesn’t need to prove anything. He doesn’t care whether Rs or Ds get elected in midterm. All he needs is to make sure his corp donors are lined up for 2012.
As for the Ds, they don’t care much who gets elected either. If they get voted out, they’ve got great lobbying contracts waiting for them, and they know they can count on (as a party) being reelected at some point in the not-too-distant future as the Rs get thrown out in favor of the least bad Ds.
Once both parties line up with corps, the gig is up for the voters.
Not Me Margaret. From now on, im going to vote for any candidate that works for the good of the 95%, not the 5%. If theres no one to vote for (and there probably wont be) then I wont vote. It wont suck and I wont be enableing the liars. We wont get good policy, but we arent getting that now, and if were not going to get good policy anyway then i will continue spending mt money and energy on calling, writing letters, participating in the conversation, and generally telling my reps “told you so”, every chance i get.
Everything can be sacrificed except Defense… fuckers!
Tomorrow is OFA’s Vote 2010 Day of Action.
I’m “firebagging” the one in Denver – I want that message to get back up the chain.
Forget punching hippies – punching the starving and desperate is not only un-Democratic, it’s evil, and I’m gonna give the local OFA party machine earsplitting decibel levels worth of reminders of that.
No! – go vote, the state and local stuff really matters. Just write yourself in, or leave blank, the national races where there’s no suitable candidate for you.
Yep, I’m going to vote. My Rep deserves my support I think but he’s part of the Progressive caucus and I certainly intend to support Bill White. Whatever happens, staying home is probably not going to be an option for me.
2011 will be lots different from 2010. 2011 will be the year the voters find out that the gummint, after presiding over the robbery of their private pensions, and the theft of the equity they once had in their homes, is gonna take their social security, too.
Unless, of course, the dems keep the cat food commission secret ’til after the mid-terms.
Vote for Cthulhu! Why settle for the lesser evil?
LMAO! Too bad Voldemort is British!
It should not go unmentioned that Mitch looks quite fetching in the halter dress. Nice job, twolf. I’m sure there’s a groove in there somewhere.
Swopa, it is way way too late for explanations. The Dems made all manner of promises that led them to victory in 2006 and 2008, that they did not keep. If they expect support in November, they have precious little time left to act, because no one is bothering to listen to their empty words any more.
Margaret,
I hear you loud and clear and I agree but to take your last quote:
Regardless, the Democrats and Orahmba have insidiously and seemingly purposely pissed away any chance that their governance would change things and instead have basically opened the doors for the Repubs and the loonies to get back into power and finish the job that will assuredly bring the country to it’s knees and the grand experiment of American democracy will whimper and die.
That will make both you, me, and plenty of good folk very unhappy! I truly do not see any other outcome with the facts that are on the table!
LOL!
Woo.
“There is no “clash of civilizations.” There is a clinically dead civilization kept alive by all sorts of life-support machines that spread a peculiar plague into the planet’s atmosphere. At this point it can no longer believe in a single one of its own “values”, and any affirmation of them is considered an impudent act, a provocation that should and must be taken apart, deconstructed, and returned to a state of doubt. Today Western imperialism is the imperialism of relativism, of the “it all depends on your point of view”; it’s the eye-rolling or the wounded indignation at anyone who’s stupid, primitive, or presumptuous enough to still believe in something, to affirm anything at all.”
: )
http://tarnac9.wordpress.com/texts/the-coming-insurrection/
Really? I find it somehow disturbing. And I’m certainly no prude about such things.
Just not sure what he is going to fetch in that, are you?
Hey There, Cthulu…
Yep, I agree. A very good argument could be made that there is so little difference between them that policy wise, it hardly matters anymore. I’m now voting on the issue of sane but corrupt vs insane and corrupt.
Cooties.
Now that SCOTUS has ruled that money=speech and corporations=people, I figure the next step is to exclude everyone from voting except CEOs.
Hell, pols from both parties act as if that has already happened.
There’s a big diff. The Ds are corp tools and the Rs are batshit crazy.
The Adventures of Li’l Cthulu
That is pretty much what I’ve decided too.
That one cracks me up!
Hard to come to any other conclusion, given the “evidence,” not that evidence counts for much anymore.
We have definitely crossed the Rubicon with these governing idiots and there is no turning back. Even on the local level, I see so much BS and dishonesty, that it is appalling and indefensible. The folks who care are getting crushed by money and the elite machines, those who could care less are so misinformed, they would vote for shit on a stick if it winked and talked purdy!
If I am wrong, show me a singular sign of the people’s representative’s really doing something that will have a lasting and meaningful impact…not just the talk, but the walk! I do not see anything that is tangible and real!
well thats probably more to the point. your correct that we all need to be counted, not merely stay home, which is what they want.
Hard for any sane person to come to any other conclusion, given the “evidence,”
Fixed it for you.
I love that… “….their souls make his tummy happy….” :-D
Yeah apparently there are no wizards in the western hemishphere.
LOL, well at least that would restore the existence of a representative democracy in this country ; )
Heh. Thought I covered that in my ‘evidence’ caveat, but I’ll take your version under advisement. *g*
Indeed. Whatever I do, I hope it’s not something any of them “want” me to do.
There’s a German word, Weltgetümmel. It means something like “the tumult of the world.”
This is often a feeling people have, and sometimes a way to make people “lay down”, “stay home”, you get my drift.
I get out of that feeling by being rebellious, sharp elbowed, unconventional. It’s not for everyone, but it works for me.
I’m going to bed. I’ve been under increasing amounts of stress lately and I haven’t really had the heart to socialize or even keep up with current events. I hope that nobody takes any of it personally. Good night. :)
That’s really going down the rathole, trying to figure out what they want you to do & then doing the opposite.
Nite Margaret. Sleep well.
g’nite margaret
And speaking of Germany, that’s exactly how the National Socialists came to power. We can’t stay home. That shouldn’t even be considered as an option. Like I said, I’m better at figuring out what the answer isn’t, than what it is.
Night Peg-a-roo!
Nite Margaret.
Sleep and rest, Margaret.
You misunderstand. I’m not making a decision based on what other people will think about it. I just hope that my decision won’t please some of them. The only person I have to justify anything to is myself.
Not necessarily the opposite, just different than what they’re begging for. Might as well enjoy ourselves.
: )
OK. Thanks for the explanation. I understand. And I agree that we are only responsible for our own decisions. We’ve gone over this dilemma often enough to know that there are not any easy answers, and probably not any answers, or actions, at all.
For you Margaret and the rest of us…I think these were happier times…anyway this can put a smile on a face:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPxIajUyiyY&feature=related
You mean we should f with them? That’s the best suggestion I’ve heard in awhile.
symphony
I dunno, sounds pretty icky to me.
I LOVE THAT! (And you know it!)
Many Smooches Be Upon You Suz!
I like it. FDL does it daily, as I see it.
there is always this
Who wrote that piece of shit in the NYTimes? Just goes to show you the plutocrats whether they be politicians, banksters or “journalists” play the U.S. public for fools. The public never fails to deliver.
That’s awesome, thank you! Eli had this a while back.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlBiLNN1NhQ
lol.
: )
Metaphorically speaking…
Hmmm – I’m seeing a pattern here, as someone wise said above.
Could it be a certain type of thread for LLN? Hmmm?
Nothing like a daily f!
well it is fucking muppet friday :)
I love some fucking muppets.
*best Mr. Burns voice* Excellent…
not muppets
Could it indeed? I’m a thinkin’ …
hilarious. damn cats.
LOL!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwGdB4Gj7Js
THAT is hilarious!
right now
also not muppets
Hiya Pups!
How is everyone in the heat? Great thread Swopa! And I’m thinking martini soon…
Whenever you mention the base, you’re blowing smoke. The base are taken as loyal voters and count little in the political calculators minds. These lads and lasses who run the numbers work on the margin. The base, the wonks couldn’t give a toss what they think should be done to put the country back on the straight and narrow.
Oh, but then.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHuXpWSNa-8
: D
2011 will be different, Geitner has a hell of alot more power, obama appointed the wellpoint asshole to oversee healtcare reform, and there are about to be millions of homeless people and people who have lost everything they worked their entire lives for because no one in our government gives a rats ass about main street. I don’t know how much longer this shit is going to continue. I don’t understand why people are not in the fucking street.
*perk* martini
I hate it when THAT happens. . .(same as link at 75)
That’s a duplicate link of your #75 Suz – put down the pipe!
FORK
What are you drinking, KC? IOU.
martini
Heh, but nope; time stamp sez IOU. WHat’ll ya have?
I have to laugh when we are all off looking for links to play. Heh, Suzanne and Kelly, I still think we are due a fuck night. If not tomorrow, at least soon.
Ya did it again – no martini yet!
I’m telling ya, Put Down The Pipe!
I hate it when THAT happens AGAIN. also.
KC, I think we’re even, a double now?
i swear.. this had better work.. pink martini
i gotta clean my forking mouse
nope
Yep – we should have “martinis”
You mean this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oZLxsKji6I
One more without muppets! ….Nite all!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBZvWTeMgi8
i triple checked and the forking mouse link works
its been an off day inn case ya hadn’t noticed
g’nite edve
Finalement! Tres bien, Suzanne. Couchez!
I have a question for late nite pups — PLovering and I had a LLN comment about a piece of pottery his family gave to the Winterthur Museum. I can only remember that it was about a year ago, but I really remember that he described it as having a scene with an 18th century fire brigade on it.
Does anyone know where I can find PLovering?
coal
plove sometimes shows up in lln
That’s so cute!
i was so pissed.. not matter how many times i copied the correct url, it wasn’t ‘sticking’. i cleared my cache and that seemed to help.
OK, I’ll try to be here, and hope. Thanks Suzanne, I found his piece of pottery today (in a book). And guess what? His ancestor was Joseph Lovering, and it is printed on the big jug. A famous fireward, his ancestor.
Heh, no bjork for you!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BO0fmkSA80o&feature=related
No, I mean the song! I’m all Frenchy now.
I’ve been having troubles, too. Since my work IT man left me, I’m pretty hopeless. F**k
how forking kool… is this the conversation you were remembering?
Mais il regrette de ne pas!
Since my work IT man left me
Sounds like the start of a good song.
don’t hold back ce — say it loud and say it proud FUCK
i like that tp
How forking cool is it that you could pull this out!!!!!
That is EXACTLY the conversation I was thinking about, and I found a picture of the jug, authored by, Ms. Halfpenny! Oh thanks Suzanne, tonight, for me, you are a wizard.
*giggles seeing both comments 111 and 112 together*
Fuck! FUCK!
twas a pleasure to help ce
Ranking Full Stop.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPO2G6m746w
Jeanette.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzsPrTgbbi0
Wonderful,
So, if anyone hears from PLovering, let him/her know… call me dude.
gotta get me some java, got me some java blues
Maybe President Obama is going to try to build bipartisan consensus!
It goes on and on, and leaves me speechless . . .
Nice catch, thanks.
*slides a fair trade espresso down to Suz*
Going back to, what, 1918? Or earlier?
*G*
Have you seen the movie? It’s excellent, – Tim Roth!
Children of Men is a beautiful movie, too. Everyone should see it…
dood, i was riffing off your verse… java … IT man…. but i do appreciate the expresso dood
I’m so old, all my IT men leave me. MrCE sez that I have to get a Mac. This Dell laptop will be five years old this year… suggestions?
*glances at clock*
Larue will arrive at LLN at exactly 27 minutes past the hour.
havent but i liked what i saw…. i don’t watch many movies — used to but…
For the first time ever, there’s a lot there to what you comment about.
Which one’s are YOUR words and which are the words of your sourcing?
Cuz that’s a bit of a confusion . . .
Nope, on this I’ll disagree with ya.
They are BOTH batshit crazed, given corporate fascism and it’s goals for the elite 1 %.
But we do agree on most else anymore . .
Slainte Mhath.
Children of Men is one of MrCE’s fav movies. I just cried.
None of it was mine, it’s in quotes. It seemed to hit the nail on the head. What you think of my comments is your business, I don’t worry about it.
I came pretty close, it’s a beautiful movie. Something you don’t forget.
reply to Suzanne:
I know how it is, if you don’t do cable or netflix (like me) you rarely get around to it. Just don’t watch the trailer on youtube, it sucks. Misrepresents the movie, and is a spoiler on top of it.
reply to ChristineEdmondson…
Used or new? Apple sells refurbs on their site, you can save a lot of money, with a warrantee.
Hoss, I’m suggesting you improve your attribution skills, and ability on the intertoobz, so we can all read it and grok it all to its fullest.
Course, I’m a hard case with journo and radio/tv background and a phreakin wingnut on sourcing and attribution.
Back to you, Chet.
*G*
There are quotes around the excerpt, a link at the bottom. If you find it confusing, I don’t think I can help you.
*G*
Ha! who believes any of that any more? what a joke.
Why is no one even considering the thought of Progressives in this country investing their votes and money into a third party like the Greens?? I just switched my party affiliation completely. It may sound impractical but we have to start somewhere or else we’ll just keep making Big Daddy Rahm’s predictions come true.
Agreed. Anyone with half a wit should know it’s all illusion and theater.
For 2010, the choices are pretty much set. The best the Greens can do in 2010 is to spoil Alvin Greene’s chance to upset Jim DeMint in the Aiken County returns.
For 2012, it is still possible for a third party it applies itself to capture maybe a couple of Congressional seats, but to do that they need 150,000 supporters in a Congressional District.
For 2014, if there are established third party Congressional representatives, there might be the chance to elect a few statewide third-party candidates including a US Senator.
And in fact a lot of folks are considering Progressives investing their votes in a third party in 2010. The GOP because it will increase their margin of victory; Rahm Emmanuel for it will show conclusively that he was right that progressives make choices that politically are fucking retarded.
The unity of the Republicans in Congress over the last eighteen months means one of two things. They will either win big or they will lose big. Those are the only two choices in 2010, hate it as we do.
As pissed off at the White House’s political tone-deafness as I am, I still won’t the Republicans to lose and lose big.
If there is some long-term seriousness in any third party movement, I might consider them but for now only independents like Bernie Sanders have found a way to bring progressive politics to Congress. And there are progressives who likely want to primary him for some of his votes.
It’s as simple as this with House races. If you don’t have 150,000 votes, you’re going to lose.
What we should be advocating is that disgruntled Republicans form themselves a real non-astroturfed third party either to the right (preferably) or the left of Mitch McConnell. A third party that is independent of Republican leadership control.
That’s not likely to happen because the Republicans know after 40 years of successful politics that splitting the coalition is not the route to victory. That’s why there will be Tea Party folks voting for any of the saner Republicans (a relative term) who survived their primaries. What even nutty conservatives know is that winning primaries followed by winning elections is the route to power in the US political system, not splitting the vote. Ask them how they feel about Ross Perot and his Texas cage match with Poppy Bush.
Because when faced with corporatist objections, the Obama administration allowed each of the initiatives the NYT mentions to be emasculated to the point of ineffectiveness, just for the sake of being able to say they “passed something.”
I think the more likely explanation is that the WH is run by corporatists. See Lincoln primary, Dorgan amendment, Liz Fowler, etc. Obama wants the narative that he’s being forced into the legislation and is otherwise powerless, when in reality he’s powerful and is the one pushing for the corporate goodies.
Margaret,
Vote 3rd party. If there is no 3rd party vote for the Republicans. At least they are honest about telling you what they are going to do to you before they do it.
Besides that the Repub’s are against pushing dollars down to those in society who can’t compete. Why make it easy for them to reproduce like rabbits? Less people = Better for the environment.
Vote for the Democrats in 2010, If you vote for the Republicans, it will be the end of the MidClass here, remember, they the Republicans want you to stay mad at the Democrats, this way they hope you will not remember come Nov. that all these messes were caused by them and the Bush party for the last 8 years, I would rather stay the Democrats for the next 2 years and give them the total 4 year in the white house to
see what they can do with it and then make up my mind in 2012, look we gave the Republicans 8 whole years to F#### everything up, we can atleast give the Democrats their 4 year to try to make thing right then make up you mind whether to change or not, or to go backward with the Republicans who got us at this point in time, and they don’t want to work with the other side to help the people who voted for them, I rather vote for someone who is trying, then someone who isn’t and wants go back to the ways that got us here with all the mess that the Democrats are trying to fix with no help from the Republicans, they just vote no, so they can change great Bills into so so Bills, so they can service there Big Companys who give them BIG Money to there War Chest,which we can’t match, but to service your best interests
heaven forbid the Republicans would do that, they don’t even want to Extend the Unempolyment Benfits, they don’t care about the Poor or MidClass in the US. So VOTE Democrats in 2010 give the the total 4 years to do something, then make up your mind in 2012, otherwise kiss goodbye to SS, Medicare, Mediaid and back to the ways that started all this cramp in the first place.