Ben Stein is so very sad. Sad Ben! Sad Stein!
A few weeks ago, I bought a book of front pages of newspapers from World War II. I have been reading it avidly ever since. The news is terrifying and uplifting, of course. But it is the sense of Western resolve against the Axis powers that is so powerful. There is a purpose in the stories of the whole nations of the United Kingdom, the United States, and the Soviet Union joined to fight the Nazi and Japanese war machines. Fighting, producing, rationing, restraining, cheering, mourning, all done with a will to win.
And, you had no doubt whose side the newspapers were on.
They were on the side of Robert Taft!
Oh that is a joke. I always find the right wing nostalgia for the Unified Fightin’ Spirit of The Big One comical, because I like to imagine what they would have been yammering about during the FDR years: Ben Stein, unbalanced as he is, would have found an argument impeaching FDR over Lend-Lease. Am I wrong? No. I am right.
Because what totally kills me is how WWII is the ultimate liberal argument: government intervention, wisely done, is good for the nation, creates jobs, creates national unity, and just… works.
Hell, don’t believe me? Ask the always hilarious Conservipedia:
Franklin Delano Roosevelt was the 32nd President of the United States of America from 1933-45. He presided over the majority of the Great Depression, which did not end until the attack on Pearl Harbor.
My good friend Dr. Dick, in the comments, will perhaps find this amusing…
I sure do!



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Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?
Sat-Thers-Day…! ;-)
Hey Boys & Girls!!! How are all of you tonight!??!!???!
Ben would be a perfect professor at Beck U.
SaTHERSday Night Fever!
Somebody call the waaambulance, Ben Stein haz a sad! Stein defintiely would not have supported Lend Lease. Foreign Aid, Europeans, and deficits as far as the eye could see. I also have to love a Republican pushing noninterventionism. Of course Ben Stein would also hate the Republican solution to the staggering deficits created by the Depression and WW II: taxing the shit out of the rich fucks by setting the top marginal rate to 90% on income over $250K. Funny how that does not seem to have stifled innovation, economic growth, and general prosperity.
But he only has a SecEd degree…
A bit ragged around the edges. In a fit of temporary insanity I did a nine mile hike this morning with a 1800 foot gain in elevation (1100 feet in mile 2.5-4).
So, he’s puurfect for Beck U! Phd’s aren’t exactly a requirement.
ye-ouch! great forking view tho…. wow
Did you take a long hot shower when you returned?
They actually disqualify you unless they are from Liberty, Regents, or Oral Roberts Universities.
Nice photos!
You don’t know what I DIDN’T call this post…
Good point. You really just have to be crazier than a chihuahua in a pit bull show…
Yeah. About mile 3.5, I thought I was going to die. In that steep stretch, I was basically walking about 100 feet, stopping and panting until my heart stopped doing its Ginger Baker imitation, and then repeating it. After mile four, I was up on top (5400 feet elevation) and the trail leveled out and subsequently started back down hill. that wasn’t bad.
that a tease or are ya gonna share?
I don’t know of any folks from those schools on the faculty of the University of Arizona. There certainly were not any at the University of California Davis when I was there.
I am in love with the idea that Pearl Harbor ended the Depression… BY MAGIC!
I mean, sheesh, maybe our problem right now with the high unemployment rate is an insufficiency of our Navy being sneak attacked.
With Ben Stein to work with, it could be damned near anything.
First thing I did when I got home was crawl into the shower. Even thought the temps were mild-cool, I sweated like a pig. Was out there for four hours, drank a quart of water, and never peed.
Stein was a high school classmate of Carl Bernstein. Ben goes on to be a pool boy, er, speech writer for Nixon while Bernstein helps take down the Nixon presidency.
Way to go, Carl!
maybe stein was trying to say bring back the draft to end unemployment without actually using the words bring back the draft.
And apparently instantaneously.
Nothing that a general draft couldn’t solve. Would also do a great deal to alleviate the current degradation of the military. Alternatively, we could simply withdraw from Iraq and Afghanistan and spend those billions on having people fix our rapidly degrading infrastructure.
Magical thinking is what conservatives do best. It is in fact the core of their political philosophy:
1) Tax cuts for the rich
2) ???????
3) Profits!
I also think we could save a bundle by closing at least half the military bases we have in other countries. Fuck the taxpayers, though, we gotta keep ‘em there to defend the interests of the mega-capitalists should they ever feel threatened.
If anybody was actually interested in lowering the deficit, as opposed to insuring that rich people never have to pay taxes, we could slash the defense budget by 2/3, which would still leave twice as much as the next highest contender.
If the Republican elephant weren’t as bloated as our military budget, you could see the inverted pentagram around its neck.
I could support a general draft. Hitch up the brass up and make ‘em pull wagons. Be more useful than whatever it is they do currently.
But Sarah Palin says we gotta have a huge military because…well, we just gotta! Also.
Nah, he’s just an idiot.
ROFLMAO!
While I really think that we should withdraw, I also think that if we are going to engage in this kind of clusterfuck, then we need to have a general draft (without all the loopholes of the last one) so as to share the wealth around. Really pisses me off that the poor and the brown have to pay the price to enrich a bunch of already filthy rich fat white fucks.
Our leaders will sacrifice all that remains of the so-called middle class before they cut defense spending in any significant way. I honestly believe we could reach 50 percent unemployment (or higher) and defense spending would continue to rise.
Sincerely hope my theory is never proven.
“Amusing” isn’t the word I would use but that’s just me.
Our leaders will sacrifice all that remains of the so-called middle class
They already have.
Of course the rich would still (with rare exceptions) avoid service or be kept out of harms way.
It is a professor thing. When you read enough essays by stoner freshmen, you develop a kind of dark humor toward the stupid.
I’ve already served and I just turned 50 so a draft wouldn’t do anything for me but that would be just Stein’s speed. A black and white solution for a black and white problem. Ben Stein always has high praise for Alan Greenspan. Enough said.
I am sure that they would find a way, they always do. That is, however, why I said none of the loopholes.
I see! I freely acknowledge that I have a very low tolerance for teh stupid. :)
On reflection, that is rather unfair to my stoner freshmen, as they usually make more sense than Stein does.
Needs them troops to keep the Mexicans out of Wasilla.
when i was still working, i used to bemoan the fact there was no law prohibiting stupid in public
So do most professors, but they won’t let us publicly torture or execute our students, so we develop coping mechanisms.
Geez, Margaret, you could have at least waited until I left the room…
Mexican Mafia would put the Palins and Johnsons out of business in a week.
I graded papers for a freshman history class one time, most couldn’t write to save their lives. Couldn’t read half of them.
I think Ben Stein deserves some credit for achieving the status of celebrity-for-the-sake-of-celebrity without being in any way physically attractive. He also lacks intellectual coherence, but that’s normal for an American celeb.
She would be an easy buy off.
Fixed.
You know I love and respect you ratty! ❤
Helps to be a baritone. Hard to be successful if you’re a nerd AND have a high voice. Not saying it’s right but as a generalization our society does tend to judge people by their most superficial characteristics.
On second thought I’m not convinced Ben is a baritone. Monotone, yes.
Actually, my students have occasionally suggested that my tests are a form of torture.
Back atcha, Margaret!
Gonna take this opportunity to leave on a high note. Wishing a marvelous peaceful evening to all.
Jumping in late. But you are so right. The GOP admired fascism. eg Andrew Mellon. Hitler was GOP Senator Borah’s friend. (He wish he could have spoken to him before he invaded Poland) In November 1941 the renewal of the draft legislation almost failed due to GOP opposition.
Then and now they love depression and fascism.
g’nite rat
I got sent home on a casual Friday for wearing a shirt that said “Stupid people shouldn’t breed”. I guess a clinical environment wasn’t the best place for something of that nature.
night ratty! :)
Nighters! Give Bob a peck for me.
Not to mention Prescott Bush’s BFF…
Good night, ratfood.
I promised GoodMrsPuma an early evening, so I’m outta here too. Peace out, y’all, and Hup Holland tomorrow!
Bradley J. Schlozman=Alvin.
Tell them they’re lucky your tests aren’t like this one. :)
Yep I stopped writing listening to Rum and Coca Cola and trying to remember cooling off in the hot sun.
Night! Hang in there.
Frank Zappa “…the basic building blocks of the universe is made of stupidity because there is so much of it…(not hydrogen)…
Stupidity is an inherent quality in humans… a lot of them escape enlightenment and are called Republicans often times (Suzanne excepted). G)
Now they are joined by Democrats!
Stupidity is so dumb it can sub for comedy
g’nite edp
Oh, but they are! ;-)
Ha! O’Keefe and Giles are being sued!
Then ya know you’re doing yer job…! ;-)
Thers! Dr. Dick! Nine miles! Day-am! I should take you as a role model. Not sure I could walk nine blocks these days. To think I used to laugh at teh suburbanite friends when they visited me in Boston and couldn’t hack the whole Freedom Trail. Not having a car I was in so much better shape. But I find it really hard to “go walk” just for the walk. Need a place to go.
Anyway, looks like a lovely walk. You take great pictures, man.
LMAO! What do you teach and where? Looks like I have some time….
It helps that all of that is only about 20 minutes from my home and right on the edge of town. Probably would not walk anywhere as much if it weren’t there. As to the pictures, with all the scenery we have around here, they just sort of take themselves.
I teach anthropology at the University of Montana. I actually do teach some online courses. I have one on the Indians of the Northwest coast this fall and in the spring I am teaching Anthropology of Gender.
I actually heard some callers (Diane Rehm news roundup yesterday? I forget so quickly these days) yesterday calling for closing military bases in Europe and Okinawa instead of cutting social programs.
Ooh! I’d like a link tot hat when you have one.
Suuuuuurrrre.
Hmmm. Whaddya say, Margaret – should we old women give the youngun’s a taste of third wave feminism? ;)
Hell, cutting unneeded or insane weapons programs would save a shitload of money (that is one of the biggest expenses). Military is still developing cold war era weapons systems, though the likelihood of a large scale land war a la WWII in the foreseeable future is slim to none.
Yep! Time to close all of those Cold War bases. We don’t need heavy bombers, hospitals and etc in f*cking Greenland anymore either for crying out loud. WWII is over and I’m pretty sure that German u-boats aren’t stalking shipping these days!
To the catalog entry or the class itself. In the latter case, only enrolled students can access it (the university demands its pound of flesh).
I’m game. :)
Then the catalog entry will be fine for now. I don’t know that I can afford it right now.
OTOH, we wouldn’t want to be “disruptive” of Dr. Dick’s class….
They get a bit of that from me (though I am more 3.5). The class actually gets rave reviews as I cover a really wide range of societies and gender systems. For many of my students it is the first time that they realize that the gender systems they are familiar with represent only a narrow range of the gender spectrum.
And the Russians are unlikely to attack any time soon (even if their equipment doesn’t fall apart).
He might have to separate us……
The right kind of “disruptive” I like and I suspect that is what you have in mind.
defenseoffensebudgetexpensefixed it fer ya, doc. hope you don’t mind..
karen
It will not be available until sometime in the fall, but remind me around October and I will post a link.
Matriachral societies?
Can I jump in? I am strong on gender. :-)
Kids these days are almost as clueless as we were but as a rule are far more tolerant.
Of course! Feel free. :)
No, as far as we know there are none of those, though there are a few existing egalitarian societies and a lot of complementary systems. In the latter, men and women are different, with different roles and responsibilities, but are equally valued and have generally equal (though often different) access to the primary social rewards (power, wealth, & prestige).
It was Ben Stein or Judy Miller.
And it was close.
That’s cool. I should know more about my own situation by then hopefully
They may be even more clueless in some ways, but you are generally right about them being more open and tolerant.
Thanks. We need to make my Okie compadre earn his living.
I know all about the times when studying gender anthropology would be considered just silliness. Everybody especially the “little lady” just needs to know their place.
I am rather proud to say that anthropology, especially the work of Margaret Mead, provided the initial theoretical grounding for modern feminism.
Well, they are certainly much more coddled than I was for example but yes, they are undeniably more tolerant of diversity than my generation was. They also seem much less inclined to take religious tenets to heart. I remember in Jr high and high school for example, almost everybody, male and female, wore a crucifix around their neck. Personally I’ve never gotten the whole let’s wear a representation of an ancient torture/execution device but then I lost religion when I had just turned 13. Maybe the tolerance is related to the loosening of the religious yoke. I like to think so.
Yes from my knowledge much is due the anthropology and sociology disciplines. Certainly not the medical,
Good old Margaret. She lived it, if imperfectly..
I’ve read that Victorian society justified not educating women as “protecting them” from the drudgery and worry inherent in too much knowledge of the world. To be blunt, I know bullsh*t when I hear it and I’m sure most of those women recognized it for what it was as well.
Gotta give her credit though. She was a product of but very much ahead of her time.
I said something like that at lunch one day and the whole place got so quiet I thought they were calling 911 to have me carried off. They love their blood sacrifices down here.
Her focus on gender related issues, as well as her ability to popularize anthropology were central to modern understandings of gender, especially the understanding that biology is not destiny/
Well, I’m going to hit the sack for tonight. Thanks for the conversation. Oya! :)
Lordy I have old JAMAs less than a hundred years old that discuss seriously whether women should exercise vigorously, as in basketball lest our fragile bodies be damaged.
Nite.
A very interesting character. She was bisexual, married several times and had a long term on again off again relationship with Ruth Benedict. I think this, and the accompanying sense that she did not “fit” the gender system of her culture drove much of her work in this regard.
g’nite margaret
Trust me, there is more than one reason most of my relatives have nothing to do with me. I won’t allow them to change me nor will I feel guilty at their behest. In fact I used to make a hobby of keeping as many of them pissed off at me as possible. Hey, you’ve heard of “don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time”? My philosophy is don’t do the time if you haven’t done the crime. They wanna hate me? By God I’ll give them good reason to!
Night. Time for me to haul my bedraggled carcass off to bed as well. Hopefully I am not too stiff and sore to fall asleep. Take care all.
Yep. I grew up in the 1960s and that was still CW in a lot of places. (Insert eye rolly here)
g’nite dr dick
Yes I have always found her fascinating. I love her daughter’s With a Daughter’s Eye.
I also think her two greatest contributions were to make anthropology interesting and meaningful to a large audience and to have the audaciousness as a woman to live her joy. I fault her for not being the most devoted mother.
Nighters all! Really off this time! :)
I am off too. Nite.
g’nite talkingstick
I had Comcast cable service.No complaints. I called them about something and Ben Stein was on their answering voicemail. I cancelled Comcast and went with FIOS