Keep in mind again… this was a war of Obama’s choosing. This is not something the United States had actively prosecuted or wanted to engage in.
It was… one of those areas of the total board of foreign policy… that we would be in the background, sort of shaping the changes that were necessary in Afghanistan as opposed to directly engaging troops. But it was the president who was trying to be cute by half by flipping a script demonizing Iraq, while saying the battle really should be in Afghanistan. Well, if he’s such a student of history, has he not understood that you know that’s the one thing you don’t do, is engage in a land war in Afghanistan? All right, because everyone who has tried, over a thousand years of history, has failed.
That’s right, during the previous administration our involvement in Afghanistan was sensibly limited to peaceful non-military engagement, thanks to George “The Nurturerer” Bush’s keen understanding of The Princess Bride history. As Texas schoolbooks of the near future will undoubtedly tell us, everything was going fine until Mad King Obama came along and recklessly abandoned the pursuit of al Qaeda in Iraq to invade a country that had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11.
It’s not easy to have a shakier grasp of history than Billy Kristol, but somehow Steele managed it. I can, however, offer two points in his defense:
1) He is as correct about the futility of our Afghan adventure as he is deluded about its provenance.
2) It is entirely possible that this Michael Steele truly is a doppelganger from a universe where the Democrats are all bloodthirsty neocons and the Republicans are all rational pacifists, and that he has secretly replaced the Michael Steele who said this:
Although this decision took far too long and it should not have, I am glad the president will finally provide General McChrystal with the troops he needs. However, tonight’s speech must be the beginning, not the end, of the case President Obama makes to the American people as to why this is, as he said during the campaign, “a war we have to win.” If the president remains committed to this crucial fight, Republicans – and the American people – will stand with him. But sending mixed signals by outlining the exit before these troops even get on the ground undermines their ability to succeed.
I know, the doppelganger theory sounds crazy – there’s no such thing as people crossing over from parallel universes, right? But consider the DNC’s response to Steele’s comments and tell me you don’t get an evil twin vibe:
The likes of John McCain and Lindsey Graham will be interested to hear that the Republican Party position is that we should walk away from the fight against Al Qaeda and the Taliban without finishing the job. They’d also be interested to hear that the Chairman of the Republican Party thinks we have no business in Afghanistan notwithstanding the fact that we are there because we were attacked by terrorists on 9-11.
And, the American people will be interested to hear that the leader of the Republican Party… is betting against our troops and rooting for failure in Afghanistan.
So, to sum up:
Michael Steele: The Democrats are the crazy irresponsible warmonger party!
DNC: YES! Yes we are! War is awesome and Republicans hate it because they are weak little babies! Ohgod this is the best day of MY ENTIRE LIFE!!!
This is why some of the money we’re raising this week will be going towards interdimensional stabilizers, because you really don’t want us to switch places with the other Firedoglake.



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Absolutely hilarious.
Eli – you have outdone yourself.
Aloha, Eli…!
Aloha, CTut!
Thanks, BT, egreg!
Michael Steele – as we have said before, he is a gift.
But is he a gift from God… or Earth-Two?
Eli !
Steele gets all his talking points from Colbert …
He has certainly raised the ire of Bloody Bill who is demanding his resignation.
I have never been so spoilt for choice of video – I could have just as easily used the Princess Bride clip, or a clip from the Mirror, Mirror episode of Star Trek (OMG all the original Trek episodes are on YouTube!!!).
Petro !
Someone’s going to have to explain to him that Colbert is parody. But not just yet.
As we talked about the other night wrt Harry Reid being fortunate to have nitwits lined up to oppose him, Steele is another matter entirely.
Katon Dawson, Steele’s likely replacement, loves memberships in ‘exclusive’ clubs. So there’s that.
Is that the universe where Jane has a goatee?
Maybe it is me but I remember Obama escalating this war. I cant believe how progressives are ridiculing Steele for saying that we need to leave Afghanistan, isnt that what we want also? Are we so opposed to republicans that even when they make points we agree with we attack them? This is crazy! We have a democratic president who is as hawkish as the republican president before him, we have a democratic congress who is as hawkish as the republican congress before them, and now we have a progressive media that is as hawkish as the FOX News gang. Amazing! Obama has doubled down on this unwinnable war, he has promoted Bush’s general to run it, he has kept Bush’s Secretary of Defense to manage it, and you guys are at Steele for saying it cant be won!
ZOMG !!!
Drudge…? ;-)
No, Steele saying it can’t be won is the part that makes sense, and I said as much. What’s ridiculous is that: A) He said that Obama started it, and B) He was one of the cheerleaders when Obama escalated it.
Jeebus … looks like the Bridge to nowhere has inhabitants as well …
It’s his complete change of positions that everyone is laughing at. What he said is exactly right, IMO.
I’d find this funny if point #1 wasn’t 100% true.
Also, and I probably didn’t get this across as well as I wanted to, I thought it was kind of funny that Steele was lamenting that Afghanistan was a diversion of resources from Iraq, when Iraq was originally a huge diversion of resources from Afghanistan. Which was where al Qaeda and bin Laden actually were.
Another edition of ‘the Truth being stranger than fiction’…! ;-)
The contradictions you cite might be what makes everyone’s jaw drop but, for me, the stupidity is what I find most amazing. That he is so dumb that he doesn’t even get that what he’s saying is wrong is the most surprising. Maybe he’s like Palin, strictly in it for the money and he doesn’t really care about anything else.
For me it’s both, although the juxtaposition between idiocy and astuteness is pretty remarkable in its own right.
Meet the new trolls, same as the old trolls.
Although, really, one flows directly from the other. Once you establish the premise that Afghanistan is *Obama’s* war, then the inevitable conclusion is that it is an unwinnable folly.
The latter analysis *is* true, but I doubt that Steele arrived at it honestly.
I think Matt Taibbi had the best take on the “rooting for failure” line a few years ago. I can’t remember who he was responding to – I think it was another journalist who used the line, so probably someone like Thomas Friedman or Joe Klein.
Anyways, his take on “rooting for failure” and how we’re supposed to cheer for “victory” was something along the lines of it meaning that if we see someone leap from the top of a tall buiding, we’re supposed to pull for him to nail the dismount.
Yeah, predicting or acknowledging failure is *not* the same as, f’rinstance, saying, “I hope he fails.”
hey eli — there’s an alt fdl? shit, no one told me….
As dismal as Steele is, Brad Woodhouse of the DNC is talking the neo-con talk. This statement by him is wrong. Chimpie already was planning to attack on Sept. 10, because he loved his wars. I guess that ratfucker Woodhouse does also.
Hi Eli!
Isn’t that line (in the YouTube) followed by the exclamation “this is a situation that calls for a truly stupid and futile gesture? And we’re just the guys to do it!!”
just wondering,
your friend,
etc., etc.
Hi jayt!
You’re probably right. Or at least very shortly thereafter. Sadly, the statement applies equally well to both parties.
practicallly all politicians make me hurl
how many days do congresscretins really work?
ok, I was pretty close.
and here, all these years, I’ve been stealing that line – but not quite right:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q47bpOCTcaY
Wow, just $129 shy of the $60K…! *g*
Interdimensional stabilizers, people. Can you really afford *not* to?
Any winger watcher knows the Right can pull something out of their butt one minute and believe it the next. They will then spend the rest of their lives repeating the lie they made up. In this way, a delusional universe is created.
Wow, now I’m picturing all kinds of outlandish parallel universes fluttering out of Glenn Beck’s mouth like a bubble machine…
It’s sad when a politician manages to speak the truth in one moment, only to make you grit your teeth the next.
$60,000
WOOHOO!
(Strangely, almost all of them look a lot like that Nazi episode of Star Trek – have I mentioned that the original Trek episodes are all on YouTube???)
$60,505
woohoo!!!
…can pull something out of their butt one minute and believe it the next.
geez – you’ve met my ex?
:)
Eli….you’ve put us over the top. What’s your pleasure?
The PG-rated answer would be a Dr Pepper float.
hello Suz, egregious, CTut, and all…
So *now* we can tell them that we’re actually going to blow it all on vuvuzelas, right?
Wow ,looks like we made our 60 grand and then some
Pups my congratulations to all of us Pups for making sure the “Lake” has the water to do what is has been doing since it’s Birth!!! WOOHOO!! ☺ ☺
Funny man!
BLARE WONK HONK!!
hey jayt — how ya been?
*ouch* Aloha, Jayt…! Your son celebrating the 4th with ya…? ;-)
good good, but busy.
coupla juries – ball-busters. but at 54 yrs of age, I can still report that I’m undefeated in jury trials.
(just occurred to me that i don’t have any new music at all to bust out tomorrow night – feh),
you not gonna be around for my lln tonight?
yo Ctut!
it *is* the Army, after all, but if all goes to plan, #1 son will be home in a few weeks, released to go to Cornell this fall…
well, darn – you got lln tonight?
I’ll take a quick nap…
You think it’s fucked up now? This is gonna be talked about through and including the sunday shows. Clarifications; explanations – none of whiich change anything — Steele is a loon, but like Palin, entertaining. And so many democrats aee still living in the euphoria of Inauguration Day and can’t bring themselves to criticize Obama. And like fellow Pup Norske says, the killin’ goes on and on.
Uncle Sam paying for the full ride through Cornell too…? ;-)
what kind of cases, JT ?
BFL…! Aloha…! It’s been awhile since I’ve seen your fonts…!
Ivory League. Nice.
yes, there is! — and our consulting contracts are significantly more, um, enriched but not in the monetary sense, if you know what I’m sayin’
BZZZZZZZZT
Aloha, man. I haven’t been here much, huh? I need to thank all you facebook people who responded to my friend request and prolly didn’t know who i was.
Always good to be here, CT. Why haven’t I been? Couldn’t give one reason. Longer, more difficult commute home after work gets me home late and kinda wiped out. I’ve done a little lurking. Always good to be here. It really is.
8-7 RWC… the place to be…
shit i bet the alt fdl is where soros sends those infamous checks
I always thought LLN was alt FDL
I’m pretty damned sure he’s not sending them to my place.
I have such a dirty mind, I guess. When I see the word, it is immediately translated into something obscene and I have to stop and sort it back out into its real meaning.
shhhhh don’t tell anyone egregious
Hey Jayt, haven’t “seen” you for awhile. Or BFL, for that matter. I don’t comment a lot, mostly lurk, mostly daytimes, and am rarely around for LLN, but it is fun being here tonight.
Thanks to Scotus, Soros can cut out the middle men now…! Too bad Dick Armey hasn’t learnt that yet…! ;-)
swopa has late nite upstairs
BFL….jayt…..like old home week here :)
He’s in a double-parallel universe!