I wouldn’t have thought it possible, but I think Ben Nelson has now officially surpassed Joe Lieberman as the most utterly loathsome member of the Senate Democratic Caucus:
Then there’s centrist Sen. Ben Nelson (D-Neb.), who bucked his Democratic colleagues and voted against the bill. Nelson, in particular, took issue with his colleagues’ reasoning for why the unemployment benefits, unlike the rest of the bill, weren’t paid for. Traditionally, unemployment benefits are green-lit without being paid for because they’re deemed an emergency. Democrats have done it this way; Republicans have, too. And as Sen. Debbie Stabenow told reporters yesterday afternoon, the same should’ve applied to the current jobs bill: “15 million people unemployed,” she stressed, “is an emergency.”
Not so, according to Ben Nelson. “I don’t buy that distinction,” Nelson said yesterday. “At some point, it ceases to be an emergency. It’s ongoing…I think the bill should be paid for.”
Ah, I see. So if your house is on fire long enough, it’s not that big a deal any more and you should just live with it. Maybe next he’ll explain that we should stop pushing BP to cap the Macondo well because it’s been gushing so long that it’s not an emergency anymore.
It’s the politics of desensitization, where the duration of a crisis is more important than its seriousness. Ben Nelson doesn’t think unemployment is an emergency anymore because it’s just so 2009. I’m sure all the people who have been unemployed since 2009 (or longer) totally agree with him.
Also worth noting how Nelson uses fiscal responsibility as a club – can’t have any new spending unless it’s paid for! – yet brags about how he never met a tax cut he didn’t like and is the only Democrat to sign Americans for Tax Reform’s pledge to “oppose and vote against any and all efforts to increase taxes” (Specter signed it as a Republican). I’m betting that his plan to reduce unemployment involves a really really big bathtub.




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Good evening Eli!
Whoa. That’s going some.
Evening egreg!
Maybe Lieberman has a more impressive body of work over the totality of his career, but Nelson has really come on strong since the Democrats took the Senate.
Does Ben Nelson ever refer to himself as a Christian?
All the time, I bet. Jesus was very concerned about deficits, as you very well know.
Are ethanol subsidies “paid for”?
Used to be Blanche. Before that, Lieberman:
Plum out of expletives to properly demonstrate the appropriate disgust for someone with a ‘D’ next to their name.
Is Ben Nelson’s salary “paid for”?
At some point, I think the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan should cease to be emergencies … they’re ongoing. I think they should be paid for. Just sayin’…
As one of those long term un/under employed that Nelson finds so passe he can [self moderating what I really want to say to avoid creating extra work for the mods-
Damn, I wish I had said that…
It is all about rotating villains. Ben Nelson is this week’s flavor. There will be another next week.
In the 60s and 70s, people used to say, “When the revolution comes, this one or that one will be first up against the wall.” Good times.
It does take effort and is a very impressive achievement on his part!
What’s disturbing is the sense that this is not some distasteful duty where they have to “take one for the team”. Nelson and Lieberman in particular seem to enjoy themselves waaaaayyy too much when it’s their turn.
Nelson’s been continuously loathsome. I loathe that picture of him at this point.
edit that was a response to Hugh!
It really captures his never-has-to-worry-about-where-his-next-meal-is-coming-from smugness perfectly, doesn’t it?
Yes. And his How-can-I-serve-you-oh-master gutlessness.
Of course not, they are egotists and love their recurring 15 minute episodes of fame, or more accurately infamy.
What irks me is how these conservative corporatist clowns keep getting characterized as “moderate” or “centrist”. I guess the next time I run into a shit-eating asshole I’ll just call them moderate and centrist. Judy Woodruff did that this evening on the NewsHour. Parenthetically, they actually had Nomi Prins on to discuss the FinReg bill. I would have been a lot harsher than she was but still I wondered how she ever managed to make it past the gatekeepers.
Hey, at least he knows about the holograms.
Well, part of it is a function of the two-party system: The rightmost members of the party of the left *must* be in the center, right? Otherwise they’d be in the party of the right. And the other part of it is probably the location of the Overton Window, especially among the Villagers.
I wonder if that could be termed a “job-eating grin”.
Can someone just remove Nelson from the Democrat party? (Not that the rest of them are any damn prize) Nelson, Blanche, Lieberman, Bayh, Conrad – oh hell never mind, they all suck.
I seem to recall a certain sweetheart deal pertaining to Medicare Ben wanted for Nebraska only in return for his vote on the nonhealthcare bill.
Was THAT paid for?
The worst thing about Nelson is that he represents 1.8 million people. The SF Bay area is 7.5 million in 9 counties. And yet he gets to do this to the rest of the country.
Careful Eli, you are starting to make as much sense as a winger. I think you might need a vacation at a tropical beach for a couple of weeks.
How about we use the same time frame for ceasing to call this an emergency as Congress does for the semi-annual “Emergency War Funds”?
I think we’re working on nine years with no chance of EVER putting that into the regular budget and subjecting military spending to paygo. Isn’t taking care of Americans as important as paying off Warlords left and right? Well, except our own of course.
“Emergency” and “paid for” are such tricky terms, I’m sure we political amateurs probably don’t understand all their subtle nuances.
I hope the sorry bastard loses his job next time it’s up.
Me too, and I toyed with including words to that effect – but even if we got rid of him in 2012, he would score an obscenely well-paid insurance industry gig before his seat even got cold.
But yeah, I really really want him gone, even if it means replacing him with a “real” Republican. Unless that seat is the margin between 49 and 50, we’d never notice the difference.
That explains it now I understand. G) Good Big Red Republicans are the backbone of conservatism
I wish Democratic Senators were as far to the left as Republican Senators are to the right. I know the wingnuts and teabaggers are pissed off at the Republican establishment, but they really have absolutely no idea how good they’ve got it.
D or R they all suck !
So… sorry to be dense, but does this statement from Ben means he’s now opposing Olympia Snowe’s standalone UI bill?
Sounds like he’ll oppose any unemployment bill that’s not “paid for”.
Agreed. He needs to be gone. I can think of a few others.
Could we stop calling Ben Nelson, Max Baucus, et al “centrist”? They are DINO’s. These so-called “centrist” Democrats are so far right and side so frequently with the Republicans, that to even consider them in the center is just inane.
So Ben about war funding?
I believe the term I used was “utterly loathsome”.
Agreed bit DINO makes them sound like they stand up to Obama who never Pressures them lets give them a name most Dems and more important Dem fatcat donors will run away from Tea Party Democrats.
David D sez:
Seems not to think a runaway Nelson will be fatal to the project.
But Sweet Lord, he’s such a penis.
the term they really need to have attached to their names is former senator
Didn’t you know this was a christian nation?
I know that’s the thing. There is no down side for these asshats. Scary times.
That’s strange, according to Nelson “emergency” Iraq war funding never ceased to be an emergency, or unpaid for, years and years after it began. I guess using emergency funds to kill people is more acceptable than using them to feed people.
Its an election year make the GOP filibuster don’t let Congress go on vacation until we get this, Green Energy, a JOBS bill etc why waste money campaigning if the GOP is only going to campaign too?
Instead get free tv coverage every day you hold the House and Senate in session why Congress has never been held in session all summer.
Imagine the headlines. GOP won’t govern GOP won’t pay for war, Jobs, unemployment anything Dems say No work then no vacation to campaign.
By August the GOP will be looking at some very interesting poll numbers.
We have cards to play but the Dems lack the Stones to play them. Never let anyone tell you we have to settle because we have no options, or its politically impossible.
I am hoping true humanity and true compassion not to mention love of our fellow sisters and brothers will come to pass through these heartless and seemingly souless bastards like Ben, but that is a wistful unrealistic dream
…so my fall back position is please let me live long enough to see that the Karmic Pitbull takes a big chunk out of his ass and shits in his bed! Scumbag dick!
“Wanker” is too nice a word for a bastard coated bastard with bastard filling like Ben Nelson.
I’ll fly to Nebraska to help whoever can send his ass home for good.
Fuck you, Asshole Nelson.
I don’t think his state has felt the pinch as bad as some. Either way, he needs to be put out to pasture like the bastard cow he is.
No offense to cow’s.
Frankly, I, and the millions of other Americans who don’t live in Nebraska don’t give a shit about what is happening in Nebraska.
That’s not a slight to them, but I mean, the idea that their Senator would kill a bill for the entire country at their behest is madness.
Thus, I care about what’s more important for the millions of other people. Not just the Cornhuskers.
Nelson should too. But frankly I think the only person Ben Nelson cares about is his fucking self.
Fair enough, but “bastard coated bastard with bastard filling” is a lot to type.
How about bastard coated bastard with bastard cream bastard filling?
Ben Nelson cares about is his fucking self.
I could not agree more. This is true for almost every so called Senator in the United States Senate. Where is the outrage? Why isn’t the leadership making these puke bastards stand and filibuster. Why are they going home for the summer. If they can’t get their work done they damn sure shouldn’t be getting vacations. I am sick of paying taxes for these fat fucks to give them to the likes of corporate america.
You are so not helping.
Sorry. I won’t ever do that again.
would you prefer bastard coated bastard with bastard cheese bastard filling?
How about, fucking bastard coated fucker with fucking bastard cheese filling?
This is starting to sound like a Monty Python sketch. “I’ll have bastard, bastard, bastard, bastard, baked beans, and bastard.”
or parents weren’t married coated parents weren’t married with parents weren’t married cream cheese parents weren’t married filling?
That is a little nicer doncha think?
Yes, much nicer but such a person and I use the term loosely does not deserve anything close to being nice.
Ohhh dear.
I just hope Obey holds strong and refuses to bring up war funding until the jobs bill passes. That is what he promised. And since he is not running for anything, I just hope he will decide what is a bigger emergency.
Because the only way the Senate will take care of Americans is if they are worried about running out of bullets for killin’ furriners.
Me too. That was great framing by Obey to point out the hypocrisy of blank checks for war and tightfisted frugality for the unemployed.
Exactly. This is the problem. It’s not Ben Nelson – he’s just another symptom. They didn’t want it that much, they thought they could blame the lack of passage on Nelson and the GOP, and they went home. Do we think for one second anyone in authority explained to Nelson that part of his duty as a Democratic Senator was to vote for cloture? Not a chance. There will be no repercussions for this for Nelson or the GOP.
The Democrats will suffer at the polls, and they richly deserve it.
That is still an understatement. ;-)
OT.
Obama called Orszag a propeller head.
It’s a family blog.
missed this thread in real time -
sometime back, either Jon Walker or David Dayen wrote a post about how the Dems were proceeding with some parliamentary procedure wherein the breadth of reconciliation would be defined – so as to preclude shit like Nelson’s – apparently Reid et al didn’t do what the poster was recommending –
guess I’ll have to do some googling – pretty sure it applies here
Do you really have to post that picture? Words cannot do justice to how I feel about him just now.
How can Nebraskans elect such a person? Don’t they have any better Republicans?
Nelson: Not a Democrat, not a Republican. Not a public servant, not for anything in the broader public interest. Not really anything at all, except an advocate for his self interest.
Here, I’m sure you watched this many times and used it to guide your (lack of) conscience:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-e0BV6ftXEk
Fuck you too, you miserable coward.
One of the reasons Nelson got to be the bad guy on this is that his state has 4.9 percent unemployment. And they have a diverse economy now.
So he won’t get beaten up by the unemployed in his state.
Only one answer.
TERM LIMITS
See #48. It really doesn’t matter. The country as a whole will suffer because of this asshat.
Publicly funded campaigns from dog catcher on up to POTUS.
Cut his farm subsidies. Just Nebraska.
I’m not purchasing from Nebraska vendors until Nelson’s voted out. I’m not doing any business in Nebraska whatsoever while this man is representative of the voters in that state.
So agree…cut Nebraska’s farm subsidies (ranking 5th of 50 states since 1995 receiving 14 billion dollars). I mean really Ben, it’s been ongoing for years, it’s hardly an emergency at this point.
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And I just want to say, where the heck is the leadership putting a boot on this guy’s neck? Huh, Yeah,…. crickets….and I just don’t mean Harry Reid, I mean higher up…if these guys wanted it bad enough they’d find a way… But it’s always what they do…a different “democratic” corporate sponsored Senator draws the short straw and ends up being this administration’s and/or Democratic leadership’s token fall guy for their failure (same thing happened when Junior was in office especially in the second term…it was a part of the “keep their powder dry” strategy)..it’s historical, Lieberman, Baucus, Lincoln, Landrieu, Nelson, and even people like Feinstein and Schumer…it’s the game they play to appear to be caring about “we” the small people and underclass serfs when truly the only people they care about are themselves and their corporate elite ruling class brethren. The gap between the two classes is widening …even under Democratic leadership/and this administration…that’s all you need to know about who they serve and care about.
Someone pointed out in another thread yesterday (sorry, I can’t place it better) that Nelson’s constituency has quite a low unemployment rate and basically very little empathy, being unable to see beyond their community’s experience, which is considerably better than that of most of the rest of the country. However, I think it suits him just fine to sanctimoniously proclaim his views from this secure platform. And his constituents may not remain relatively untouched by the storm for much longer.
We need a large billboard on I-80 as it winds through Omaha with a big picture of Ben Nelson with the headline: Ben needs to go…on unemployment!
Actually, the Omaha SMSA unemployment rate (5.5%) is the highest it has been since 1990. Nebraska’s population is skewed. Omaha used to be 1/3 (remember it went for Obama) of the state’s population and add Lincoln and you had 1/2 the population. Today I would say the urban (eastern) popuation is even a greater percentage. I think Ben could be got at.
Unemployment might be low in Nebraska, but so are wages. A huge number of Nebraskans are going to go without Medicaid because of their dear Senator. And like me, public employees are going to get either paycuts, furloughs or lay offs because the state is being deprived of promised funds.
I guess I haven’t kept up with Nebraska much, but I thought the state was still very dependent on farming. Of course there is low unemployment in the middle of wheat harvest. It won’t last all winter. I live right next door in Colorado. We are a much more diverse state and have more resources than Nebraska and we are hurting. And we are still very dependent on agriculture.
Nelson’s state is not rich. They depend on taxes from other states to survive. They need teachers. I guess they will all be homeschooling this winer when 300,000 eachers get laid off. Some of those will be from Nelson’s state. Topretend that his constituents are not being hurt by his actions is just ludicrous.
I live in a Republican state with asshat Senators (OK) and it’s always interesting to me what other liberals who live in similar states are saying/thinking about their “leaders”. So yesterday I went to the websites of the two biggest Nebraska newspapers to read the comments to this story and couldn’t find it. Anywhere. Not only could I not find a story mentioning that Ben Nelson was the only Dem to vote against the bill, I couldn’t even find a story about the bill being defeated. So then I did a search for “liberal blogs Nebraska” and again, the same thing.
It was just weird–maybe journalists there are just much more laidback and less “scoopy” than they are in most places, I don’t know. But even in my hometown paper (Tulsa World), there is a story on this and it mentions Ben Nelson and there are both liberal and conservative commenters, etc. You’d think that Nebraskans would be interested to know that their Democratic senator was the only Democrat to vote against a centerpiece Democratic jobs bill. I mean, even if they left it out due to a conservative editorial slant, you’d think they’d be even more happy to report on this in order to give Ben his due for saving the country from demon Socialism.
Is there anyone here who lives in Nebraska? How do you see the media there?