I don’t believe I’ve ever been guilty of accusing American conservatives of intelligence, but in one specific area I suppose I must allow that the right wing consistently demonstrates a pathology that, from a certain perspective, if you squint hard, and you’ve been drinking the sorts of fluids that make photocopiers work, might be taken as some species of genius, namely, conservatives are very good at exclaiming to the heavens against some featherweight cross — which is to say, wingnuts are forever inventing flabbergasting imaginary bullshit grievances.
To witless, Brent Bozell, who is shocked, shocked to discover that a Library of Congress exhibit on Bob Hope (link for the kiddies) is all about the socialism:
Unfortunately, as with so much that affects our popular culture, this man’s legacy is also an excuse to unveil a leftist political agenda, the likes of which Bob Hope would be the first to denounce.
And what is this Leftist Political Agenda? Well, uh, first, it’s that “this exhibit seems to consider Hope merely an excuse for a much broader exhibit sprawling all over a myriad of topics.” Which is quite the complaint, given the actual point of the exhibit, which, like past Hopeian exhibits, is all about the wider context. But it’s even worse!
Instead, the first thing a visitor would notice and absorb is the video presentation, hosted by Comedy Central star Stephen Colbert. Think of all the archival television material they could use to showcase Bob Hope entertaining the troops, and remembering all the stars who generously donated their time to bringing the home front to the war front, especially at Christmas time. But the Library of Congress displays its boredom with Hope in the interests of a broader topic. But while they broadened the subject, the exhibit didn’t have the slightest whisper of interest in who’s been entertaining the troops in the last few decades, and honoring them.
Uh, that would be Stephen Colbert.
Bozell is also annoyed that a letter from feminists suggesting that Hope’s schtick was kinda sexist (uh, it was) is included in the exhibit, and that the exhibit also has the effrontery to point out that in the history of American comedy, controversies are involved.
Yes, this is trivial and so forth, but in its own way this nonsense is exemplary of the wingnut mind. Bozell is annoyed because the exhibit attempts to introduce a certain degree of complexity to the examination of the past — he does not like it that the “bureaucrats” of the Library of Congress are not engaging in the hagiography of a “lifelong Republican.”
To which, what can one say? I can’t remember ever actually laughing at a Bob Hope joke, but then, what do I know?
And then there is this.
Complexity, eh. Watch it.



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Bob Hope? Like in ‘Hope and Change’? CONNECT THE DOTS PEOPLE!
Thersaturday Night Live!
Laughing!
SaTHERSday Night Fever!
What do you mean Hope’s routine was “kinda sexist”? As I recall it, it was rather more than kinda.
THERS!
What???
BozoBozell wasn’t upset that Bob Hope was born in *gasp* England?saTHERSday nite live!
An imaginary grievance in the hand is worth two limp schticks in the bush!
…in the last moments before you keel over as stone dead as a wingnut’s sense of humor.
bozell — gee what an apt name
It was “kinda sexist” in the same sense that the post-BP Gulf of Mexico is “sorta greasy.”
Evening all.
One of the thing that Bozell does is his techies insert all sorts of $%%!!# code when you try to quote him…
He has learned the lessons of the other wingnuts and is making it more difficult to impale him with his own words.
OT hometown story….in Utica, NY we have Hope Tower which was named after Bob Hope who once visited Utica. A few years later Bill Cosby performed here. His funniest joke of the night was about the tower. He said (paraphrased) “You built a tower in his honor just because he came here? He didn’t do anything, build anything, support anything….he just came here for a few hours and left. And you built a tower to commemorate that?
Such is life in Central New York.
Bozell and his right wing ilk love to gasp and clutch their pearls at the slightest indication of a (Democratic) blowjob but are okay with slaughtering civilians, as long as it’s us or Israel doing it and torturing people, again, as long as it’s us or an ally. They seem to have quite the ass backwards view of what’s important and what isn’t.
I’m guessing that there is no Cosby Tower in Utica.
when i first read this, i read bing crosby not bill cosby….. took me a minute to realize my mistake
did he ask if he would get a tower for being there too?
In upstate NY we take whatever jobs we can get.
I think this pretty much captures the wingnut zeitgeist.
They have their own zeitgeist now?
Shrieking and ranting on a late Saturday night. Kids fighting bedtime?
Well that was a long time ago. We now have Turning Stone Casino and have hit the big times. All sorts of people come here now. They don’t stay but they do come to perform. (nobody stays, it’s more like perform and get the hell out)
Well, it is an itty bitty, twisted, dim one, but yeah.
Oh, I get it. Kinda like Branson, Missouri without the commercials.
Winning, too.
Or the hillbillies.
They refer to it as their freedomgeist so it doesn’t sound foreign.
Agreed, Thers. I could never understand why Bob Hope was famous. NOT funny. Jack Benny was great, though. Must have been a Palm Springs thing.
What bothers me is that this constant indoctrination is working. For example, the legislators who want to stop judges from imposing Sharia Law or those that want to ban implanting microchips in people. How could so many people believe this nonsense? Not to mention the birthers. There’s a quote out there somewhere about the conservatives (corporatists) will have succeeded when everything people believe is false. They’re well on their way.
LOL!
In all fairness, there really is a danger of the imposition of a kind of sharia law in Oklahoma, only the Christian kind and not the one they are worried about.
A wee bit off topic, but part of my life and how it all comes down.
Carol’s Thoughts About Flamin SF Bluegrassers At CA Fest
Carol, I fear, don’t get out much or get around much.
Sadly, Thers, there’s too many Carol’s in our lives and we can’t fix stupid.
What’s our alternative?
Yeah and Heimatsicherheitdienst is too hard to say so they call it “Department of Homeland Security”
Show tunes…?
I thought he said flubber.
;-)
Hope was really funny in his younger days with a very sharp wit. I agree that the stand-up routines he did during the last two thirds of his career were pretty lame.
That should win the internets tonite . . .
I realize that the humor now is very different from when I was young, but the “Road” movies with Bob and Bing were very funny. I loved all the old comedians. They were corny and sexist but it was quite gentle. There’s nothing gentle about the comedy today.
Adults gone bad, let yer inner mean go hoss!!!!
;-)
thers, i guess i should apologize to you for leading the trashing of your thread wed nite with english professor jokes while you were off partying with 1,000 english professors.
There you are mister! I called and emailed today. What’s up?
A police state by any other name would smell as sweet.
Tits And Ass? *G*
Found the quote but it wasn’t a neocon quote afterall. What was Casey referring to?
Now say it in iambic pentameter.
I’ll call ya manana lady. Long day today.
give me an f
I met him growing up in the ’70s, when that world was already fading away rapidly.
I too loved the Road Shows with those two . . . . sad and sick lives behind the silver screen, but what we watched and were raised on was fun. Sure it was sick, in many ways, but so was Lassie, Gunsmoke, and many more.
Many of us kids grew up beyond it, huh, and became proggies.
Bless ya, Twain . . . . ;-)
We can love what we had, and we’re adult enuff to know the fallicies of our tv ubringing, I think. ;-)
Heh –
“I guess I should apologize to you”
IS in iambic pentameter!
Please respond with a beginning spondee, then only in trochees!
Don’t forget the rhyming couplets.
Hee hee.
The fun we had!
Thers was likely whiskey stricken and does not recall any transgressions nor any complaints.
But I’m just guessin, here, Suz . . . ;-)
The mind boggles and the soul quails.
Okey-doke. :)
dish, dood
Gimme a U!!!!!
The racist & homophobic stuff was less charming.
Don’t get me wrong, I see your point. But the gentleness only went so far.
that nite, i have no doubt. i figured he was reading that thread while recovering the next day
Hard to stay as sharp after your nipples and waistline have traded places…
And what do you think the whole point of NCLB is? To create a STUPID population. Fox newsers.
I wanted to congratulate you. Hayward has named his yacht “Bob”, I’m sure in honor of your guy.
My retarded cat lays on my mouse so she gets the attention of the wriggly, typy fingers and then bites my hand if her fur gets pinched.
Thanks for the news! Bob considers it a pretty dubious honor, though.
I’ll bet if we try we could think of a more appropriate name for Hayward’s yacht.
Sounds rather more devious than retarded. Mine simply demands instant attention anytime I am on the phone (after ignoring me pretty much all day).
Oh the ibupropin . . . . . ;-)
Kobayashi Maru?
Ther’s, ya gotta be kiddin.
Were ya wounded hurtfully from their pics?
A lot of it was hilarity over students mangling words – which are sometimes oddly insightful. This year I liked:
“Snubbery”: what snobs engage in when they don’t want you around
“Egotesticle”: adjective describing a male with an inflated self-image
Former would be my name — after it is confiscated and sold to pay some of the very large fines while serving a very long prison sentence
well, that second one is absofuckinglutely correct dood
Sounds like a fun sport. How about “Inferno Rung”?
Yep, mine does that too. After being scandalized that I dared to touch the royal fur, if the phone rings, suddenly little miss prostitute is all over me.
No oil butt screwing?
*blinks*
I’d like to name it the SS Minnow.
And it’s working.
I don’t know the answer to stopping FoxNews, Rush etc. but they’re destroying this country and we’re sitting here watching it happen.
Second intertoobz winner, methinks.
I wish I thought of it as a joke…
Andrea Doria or Lusitania have a nice ring to them.
A Star Trek reference?
Titanic, Bismark, Thresher
“The Wrath of Khan” in fact. Best Star Trek movie ever made.
I got that sinkin feelin . . . . (gotta be a song with them lyrics)
Probably the best one was after the 1971 (Sylmar) earthquake, when he said that he’d changed zip codes four times without getting out of bed.
Burbank airport, which is 60s style flying (no jetways: you walk across the apron and climb the stairs getting on the plane), was renamed for him after he died. Most of us still call it Burbank airport.
No, that’s second best, IMO. The one with the whales was better (certainly funnier).
Thresher is good ….
Works for me. Holes above and below deck.
Seems to me that it should be illegal, but greats like Glenn Greenwald will fight for it as he did in Canada. I guess people have the right to be stupid and persuadable.
Thanks to Ricky Ricardo Montalban.
Grass Is Online, Here’s The Schedule
Here’s The Listen, Broad or Dialup
It’s grand! *G*
OK, must to bed. Lurves y’alls.
I angst about it all the time.
I think the only time I laughed at Bob Hope was in “Spies Like Us” when they parachuted into Afghanistan and while in a Mujahdeen village, Bob Hope came along playing golf. Dan Akroyd and Chevy Chase were pretending to be physicians. A golf ball comes flying into their tent and then Bob Hope comes in and asks if he can play through. He hits the golf ball out of the tent and then says “Doctor, doctor..(glad I’m not sick)”. It isn’t very funny written down but it was in the context of the movie.
Montalban was great in the original Naked Gun.
Nighters! think I will toddle off as well. Take care all.
Yep. He carried it. Not only that but for the first time we actually got to see holes being blasted into the Enterprise. Gone were the days of the shaky camera while everybody flew around the set, sometimes in opposite directions.
Where do you old guys buy those pants that cinch around the chest anyway?
Just kiddin’ dood, I’m certain you’ve got a couple
monthsyears to go. “g”Nite Thers and DrDick.
Thanks Thers, Nighters.
One of the reason that they do these lame as bizarre controversies is because they are NOT serious. They are easy to do and easy on the reader’s mind.
I used to write about torture a lot, why the wingnuts like it so much and what was wrong with them. I felt obligated to be serious and to understand the issue. But it is much easier to be superficial. To write about goofy stuff Bozell creates instead of “Hey, we are killing people by torturing to death!!!”
I didn’t even want to read my own stuff about torture anymore.
We want to be entertained with our politics! The serious stuff can take care of itself.
Like a lot of comedians I have a serious side and it’s hard for me to remember that people can respect you for your humor too. I so often wanted to be taken seriously when the people I was with wanted me to be funny.
People really like the funny Woody Allen comedies. Although the public spends money on comedies, they give Oscars to dramas.
g’nite dr dick
g’nite thers
G’nite DrDick and DrSmoke.
The one with the whales was certainly funnier but the Enterprise blew up nicely in the one before too.
Thers kids like most don’t want to go to bed. Missed your meaning let my inner go?
Wow, been so long I’d forgotten he was in it. Checked recently because I couldn’t remember if Leslie Nielsen was still around. He is, fortunately.
I have to believe there’s a reason for this guy being famous, I just never saw it.
spocko! I want to boycott Limbaugh advertisers but I need to find out who they are and I’d rather not listen to druggie to find out. Somebody earlier today suggested that you might be able to help me with that.
Annie Hall won Best Picture.
A lot of people thought he and Bing Crosby were great together but they lacked any entertainment value apart from one another. I saw a couple of road movies and I didn’t see anything there either.
I never was much of a Woody Allen fan though Sleeper is a great one to get stoned and watch. The gay robot is wonderful.
Who wouldn’t like the “Orgasmatron”?
They had their moments, but then I’m a sucker for guys dancing in kilts.
Right? If I could invent one of those and put a coin slot on it, I’d be rich beyond the dreams of Avarice.
And the Orb. Bet they’d be great together.
republicans
They might like it if it came with a diaper dispenser.
Some good hearted friends and some family are taken in to my surprise. I hear in the repartee the Fox news party line very distinctly in sound bits they were served. My TV has been off for three years. I hear an activist friend parrot who she is listening to on the radio. Original thoughts are gone from people who watch and listen to mainstream media or read it.
The danger is accepting the status quo as sufficient and foregoing creativity and alternate solutions. The establishment bucks change and tars it.
snicker!
and they used their staff’s instead of the one they had at home
LOL!
Conservatives like being pampered. :)
LMAO! Yep! I’ll bet that would induce the clutching of the pearls instantly. Of course they would move to outlaw them but secretly acquire one…
Kelly, Suzanne,
Let’s not behave.
Neither did I. I never understood why people loved Bob Hope so much.
He was pretty good as himself in an I Love Lucy episode.
Think I’m going to go to bed too. Night folks. Call me if you need to flat. Anytime. :-)
Obama named his campaign slogan after Hope. G)
Yep, hot, young, lusty and aggrieved!
*G*
g’nite margaret
Help – I’m trying to remember which comedian it was back in the ’80s who had a schtick about (paraphrase) “Hey, whenever the Democrats are in the Whitehouse, people FUCK! It’s all so much nice when people just get it on, instead of this hardcore not-fucking.”
Was it Pryor?
Just cause Thers left us
Nielsen was great in those movies.
One of Nielsen’s funniest films was Viva Knievel. It was unintentionally funny, though. Nielsen was still playing bad guys in those days. The film is so bad it’s hysterical.
It was a lame attempt to make Evel Knievel a movie star.
Just about any stall with a view will do.
Glory, glory hole-elujah!
sounds like something he wudda said back then. tisn’t ringing any bells — have ya tried the google
Bad, not bed. Let yer inner bad go . . . .
It’s the antivirus of all the yoga ya do . . . .
And I mean it in funny pokin way . .
;-)
Hi Margaret. Well I don’t listen to Limbaugh either!
When I organized my advertiser alert campaign (Not a boycott!) I recorded the show on my computer and then using a program called Total Recorder I fast forwarded to the advertisers. That way I didn’t have to listen to all their blather everyday.
Next I created a database which I then recorded the advertiser, what was advertised and when. Using this database with another database of horrific comments I could cross reference their violent comments with the advertiser. I created my letters telling them why it would be in their best interests to pull their ads. I was just one person, they had already ruled me out as a purchaser of their product. My goal was to convince the ad brand manager herself that this hosts disgusting comments were bad for the brand.
And I say “herself” on purpose. Rush’s sexism is ignored because they believe that the market has segmented itself. But when they are confronted with his sexist comment right before an ad for say “Project Runway” they have a hard time ignoring it.
By the way, that is how I got Lifetime TV to drop their ads on K S F O.
When I wanted to get United to drop their ads I sent them the audio clips where they supported airlines that discriminated against Muslims.
Then I pointed out that when they did live reads of United commercials that the “voice of United” is the same voice that hates Muslims, who are potential customers.
I didn’t want to punish the advertiser with lost revenue, I wanted to punish the radio hosts. And when the radio host lost revenue for their stations they were punished. Morgan fired. Rodgers fired. All because of lost advertisers.
bad
Heh – yeah been working the google, but “democrats” and “fuck” return a LOT of results, no matter what other term you enter. LOL – you can imagine….
I’d forgotten that one!
Dude, we haven’t even sorted out the details as to why you don’t like Hope On The Road Pics.
Yer just goo big for us a plebes, hoss . . ;-)
Sure it wasn’t somebody during Clinton’s tenure? In the ’80s the last two Democrats in the WH would have been LBJ and Carter and I try not to think of either of them and sex at the same time.
Thanks. Maybe I can put something together like that. I have time.
I always thought Hope and Crosby were booooorrrrrinnnnnggggg. :) Course I was at my grandparents’ house whenever I saw them and my grandparents were booooorrrrrinnnnnggggg. My grandparents were baptist republicans. booooorrrrrinnnnnggggg.
Nighters Margaret.
Time for me to power down too. Sweet dreams to all.
*wahddyoutalkingboutwillis*
hmmmm i see the problem
g’nite rat
Leslie was an idiot, in an idiot’s shell.
He was a one horse schcitk useless actor with no talent.
Bob Hope and and his co road buddy had more talent in their thumbnails than Leslie ever had.
Harumph.
I’m leaning toward Bill Hicks in the ’90s.
hey senator — you aint seen boring until ya spend all day in the senate…
*G*
Could be – old homo (me) getting decades mixed up would not be surprising.
Izod is still in fashion, right? /s
LaCoste never went out of fashion! And you are NOT an old homo. So stop.
I plan on being a part time senator.
Right! He is a semi-old homo.
My suggestion is to focus on a local advertiser, find a Media Matter’s clip that is especially offensive to illustrate him.
Then look at the advertisers Mission statement. Usually they put all their values there. Ask them the question. “Are your values being supported when you advertise on Rush, when he says this offensive comment?”
Rush used to be hungry for ads. In his 1992 book Rush wrote about a time when a Santa Barbabra restaurant pulled their ads because of his sexist comments. The female employees complained. Rush fought back by telling his listeners to go to the restaurant. He never apologized, he just proved that the jerks who listen to his show will spend money. The owner didn’t care about how Rush referred to the women after he got butts in seats. The owner then raved about all the business and those “feminazi” employees had to shut their pie holes, but it was okay since they were happy to have more tip money.
I don’t know if Rush would do something like that today. My method of dealing with Rush is very different than what I did with the hosts of K S F O.
you would still be doing twice as much as the one’s we have now
Ha ha! And I’m an old hippie/crank.
If so I couldn’t find any reference to his having said it. I have a foggy recollection of hearing it but also don’t remember the source.
Heh.
But really, Izod is dead. 2xist is really the bomb anymore. At least in underwear. And that’s all we wear anymore.
Aged to perfection like a fine… cheese. :)
i am a 17 year old trapped in an old woman’s body according to my eldest daughter
Speaking of problems:
“Children are 27 times more likely to develop autism with exposure to mercury-containing vaccines.” Food & Drug Administration
Mary, yer a graphics gal, and artist.
You KNOW what it takes to make movies, and satires.
You know what it takes to make scripts and satires.
Shirley, Mary, you would not deny the creativity of what went into them Road Shows anymore than you’d contest some of the best ‘toons’ that Suz has posted?
Art for art sake.
Shirley you wouldn’t conflict them Road Shows with the art of the their times?
Or with any of the OTHER arts, and toons, of them times?
Pop is pop, where does the art stop for you?
In music I can start and stop, but I can’t do it in the art. Can ypu?
Love ya, hopin for an arts related reply . . . as you and hubby are FAR ahead of me . . .
;-)
Oh gawd, what was that person fashion thingy in the 80′s?
gotta link for that?
That is better than being a 12 year old trapped in oldish person’s body.
Heh, I can relate.
What is the old joke, “In every fat person is a thin person… who got in the way of the buffet.”
I dunno. I was all about Iggy Pop and Fee Waybill, but I’m kooky.
Sorry, I am more of an Ingmar Bergman type (nose thrust into the stratosphere)
WHAT underwear?
Real hippies and progs sleep skindeep.
Yer killin me.
You do the stockiings and the garter bit?
High Heels too?
Sigh . . . … .
Hey, what’s with the Leslie Neilson hate?
Part time Senator. Cool. We need to set you up with a job-share. Who could we set you up to work with?
I don’t think that cut’s it all . . . . but nice try . . . . ;-)
Who don’t like Bergman?
And stop calling her Surely. Oh wait…
Hey, he’s a comedic fall down idiot.
No talent. Like the kind that led up to a useless bunch like Sandler, and a bunch of others who had no talent other than falling down and being schtpoopid.
You?
That’s been pretty well de-bunked. Offer something up.
HAH!
lol
Heh, I am too, although I’m not sure about the gender issue . . . .
Love ya sistah suz! *G*
http://vaccineresistancemovement.org/
ok
Russel Moore N 3rd Time Out, comin up left coast, on the KVMR stream.
Grass, hard, and best harmony.
Get there, folks.
http://www.kvmr.org/webcast.html
How to listen.
I’m gone, best to Suz, and all the Regular Pups , , *G*
Thank you Thers. Great post!
In response to Bozell’s tirade (culminating in he does not like it that the “bureaucrats” of the Library of Congress are not engaging in the hagiography of a “lifelong Republican”, I would respond by stating the obvious… Many “lifelong Republicans” with 3 digit IQ’s (I include myself) would likely have decided to switch parties when and for the same reasons I did. The Bush Administration’s warmongering, no bid, loathsome fundamentalist pandering, criminal malfeasance and world wrecking ineptitude destroyed the Republican Party! Open your eyes Republicans, the GOP is no longer the party of integrity, personal accountability and self reliance.
Remember that Hope was the schmucky member – the buffoon- of the pair. He was supposed to be a sexist misfit bumbler…in contrast to Bing’s debonaire smoothness with the ladies.
In Simi Valley there was a “movie ranch” that is frequently seen in old Westerns that was redubbed “Hopetown” after Bob Hope bought it from Wrong Way “Crash” Corrigan (it was called Corriganville in it’s heydays). Some of the early Robin Hood movies and Roy Rogers and Gene Autry films were done there.
As noted by Loo Hoo @178, the “evidence” for vaccine-induced autism has been thoroughly debunked, and the primary instigator for this claim (Dr. Andrew Wakefield) has been exposed as a dangerous fraud.
A very good (graphic) account can be found here. The sources he used are in his next post.