That map to the right comes from the NOAA Fisheries Service’s Southeast regional office. They’ve been putting out maps like this since May 2, and the “No Fishing” area keeps getting larger. To put that “no fishing” area into perspective, NOAA’s spill website summarizes the closure like this (emphasis added):
NOAA Fisheries Service revised the fishery closure effective 6:00 p.m. EDT on Friday, May 28. The closure now encompasses approximately 25 percent of the federal waters in the Gulf of Mexico exclusive economic zone.
By closed, they mean [pdf] “All commercial and recreational fishing including catch and release is prohibited in the closed area; however, transit through the area is allowed.”
The more stories like this that I hear about the disaster in the Gulf, the more I think about the Chernobyl nuclear accident in 1986. The accident itself was bad enough, but the consequences of it continue. Like the closed fishing area around the oil spilling into the Gulf, a 30 kilometer “zone of exclusion” remains around Chernobyl, including the city of Prypiat where many of the workers lived. Entrance to the area is severely restricted, and the runoff from the spring rains has to be carefully handled, to keep radiation-filled silt from washing downstream.
Radiation contamination is different from oil and chemical contamination, but the parallels between the Chernobyl disaster and the BP oil spill haunt me. Like the radiation around the broken reactor, the oil that continues to leak into the Gulf cannot be easily wiped up, nor will it simply disappear on its own with no consequences. Instead, it will change the nature of the Gulf waters, the coastal regions, and the people who live and work in the Gulf for generations to come.
In 1989, Grigori Medvedev wrote The Truth About Chernobyl, which was translated into English and published in the US in 1991, winning the LA Times 1991 book prize for best science and technology book. (Two short reviews are here and here.) At the end of Medvedev’s look back at what happened, he also looks ahead:
What, then, in my opinion, is the main lesson to be learned from Chernobyl?
Above all else, it is that this horrible tragedy summons us forcefully to the Truth — to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. That’s the first thing. My second conclusion derives from the truth.
. . . Like all tragedies of the past, Chernobyl showed us how great is our people’s courage and how strong its spirit. But Chernobyl calls us to use our reason and our analytical powers, so that we will not forget what happened, and will look clearly at our misfortune and avoid glossing over it . . .
Accordingly, the main lesson of Chernobyl is to sharpen our sense of the fragility and vulnerability of human life. Chernobyl demonstrated both man’s immense power and his impotence. And it served as a warning to man not to become intoxicated with his own power, not to take that power lightly, and not to seek in it ephemeral gains and pleasures and the glitter of prestige. Since man is both the cause and the effect, he must be more responsible and scrutinize himself as well as the things he has made. When we remember that man’s works carry over into the future, with all its joys and hardships, we realize with horror that those shattered chromosome strands and those genes, either lost or distorted as a result of radiation, are already part of our future. We will be seeing them again and again in the years ahead. That is the most horrible lesson of Chernobyl.
Like the residents of the Ukraine and neighboring Belarus, the residents of the Gulf coast will be learning first hand this very same lesson, as the BP oil disaster teaches us about the fragility and vulnerability of marine life, reshaping not only the life in the Gulf but also the lives of the people tied to its waters.
It is a horrible lesson, indeed.




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It occurs to me that there’s more to all this than meets the eye:
http://www.barentsobserver.com/fishermen-held-back-oilmen.4617633.html
In Norway, the fishermen have more clout, apparently.
Chernobyl’s happen when Democrats have way too much power. Look at what the liberal environmental groups caused to happen in New Orleans when hurricane Katrina hit, because some endangered rat or spider had to be protected. New Orleans may have been flooded, but those endangered rats and/or spiders were saved. Fire wipes out forests because no one is allowed to clean out all the dead brush and wood. America has plenty of oil (not to mention oil shale) inland and in shallow waters, but Democrats force oil companies to drill in 5000-feet of water, etc.
In 1986 I was managing an environmental radionuclide baseline database for one of our lab clients, a nuke plant prospective startup site in Ohio. We routinely analyzed and reported on natural radiation findings across a full breadth of environmental media — soils, vegetation, water, fish and other fauna, milk from local herds, etc, and air filter samples.
The air filters always came back “below LLD” — below the Lower Limit of Detection. i.e., “<0.04pCi/cu.m." (less than 4/100ths of a trillionth of a Curie). I simply had a macro that filled that in every week when updating the data.
One week after Chernobyl we got positive hits on I-131 in all of the air filters. These continued for a month or so, until the 8.05 day I-131 half-life drove them back down to the LLD.
The spew of other radionuclides also spread across large parts of the planet. I would go to conferences where scientists would report on studies pertaining to stuff like "Cesium 137 uptake in arctic caribou herds" etc.
Our capacity and proclivity to foul our nest is very sad.
Yeah, those dad-gumbed Soviet “democrats.” Chernobyl was all their fault.
You are confused. New Orleans flooded due to rotten work done on the levees by the Army Corp of Engineers. It was, until now, the largest engineering disaster in the United States. Katrina sideswiped New Orleans with the force of a cat two storm. New Orleans was fine for 24 hours after Katrina until the levees failed and the Mississippi River Gulf Outlet funneled water into the city. Engineers had warned for years that the MRGO would cause flooding in the city but the shipping industry wanted it built. Go to Levees.org to find the absolute facts on this situation. The corps has admitted culpability in this matter. Oh, and Bush stopped most of the funding on the levees to send the money to the war on Iraq. If you want more links or information on this just let me know. I am from New Orleans and have done research on it since Katrina.
Did you know that 80,000 homes were destroyed during Katrina? Did you know that many people still have not returned? Of course, now they cannot.
From the latest at NOLA.com:
Obama No
By Adolph Reed Jr.
Adolph Reed Jr. is Professor of Political Science at the University of Pennsylvania.
The Progressive
May, 2008 Issue
Excerpt:
“He’s a vacuous opportunist.I’ve never been an Obama supporter. I’ve known him since the very beginning of his political career, which was his campaign for the seat in my state senate district in Chicago. He struck me then as a vacuous opportunist, a good performer with an ear for how to make white liberals like him. I argued at the time that his fundamental political center of gravity, beneath an empty rhetoric of hope and change and new directions, is neoliberal.”
Reed’s entire article can be read @:
http://www.progressive.org/mag_reed0508
I think Prof. Reed nailed it. No other words needed. Thanks.
And, that bears on this topic precisely how?
Peterr,
Thoughtful post but you may be misunderestimating the magnitude of blow out.
When this is over North Americans and possibility the human race will be affected. This could kill us off through repercussions through the food chain.
Mother Earth lies bleeding, maybe fatality. And BP is clueless.
I have been trying to monitor some of the various live video feeds. Confusing but one thing is clear the flow of black oil has increased remarkably, even to pre-insertion of the “straw” levels. One assumes this is in preparation for a next experiment which I understand is to be either the little “top hat” or placing another BOP on top of the broken one.
Anybody know any different?
It is so huge that I imagine all of us are near clueless simply because it is too big for a mind to get its arms around.
I find it ironic that this is going on within shouting distance of the believed site of the asteroid impact that began the extinction of that life on whose corpses we have been feeding on. Nature has its own arc of justice.
Peterr,
Thanks for highlighting the importance of Grigori Medvedev’s “The Truth about Chernobyl.” The English translation from ’91 is excellent. I rank it right up there with Richard Rhodes’ “The Making of the Atomic Bomb” as a book which delves deeply into complicated aspects of physics, yet is immensely understandable and easy to
digestdevour.In Norway all the people have more say than the multinational corporations,. They have a government that represents and supports the interests of the majority of the people. It’s called social-democracy.
We are approaching a tri-fecta of understanding that none of our primary sources of energy are acceptable, each of which is capable of killing all the life on the planet.
Once that can no longer be denied one hopes common wisdom will be able to dictate the way we must live for the next millennia.
Yikes!
No idea what you’re talking about environmentalists saving rats or anything in New Orleans resulted in flooding.
To my knomwledge, the USFS, that’s the forestry service burns off the dead wood in forests and has been their policy for decades before the environmentalist movement existed. That’s the first thing.
They are reconsidering revising that policy since there have bee so mnay massive fires out west. Maybe leaving the dead wood alone might be better, but I don’t think they’ve implemented it.
And here’s a little tip for ya. Oil companies drill where there’s a shitload of oil. And in case it hasn’t occurred to you yet, the US government has made sure big oil keeps their monopoly as our energy source.
Really? The asteroid hit where?
Wow.
In all my years on this planet, I don’t think I’ve ever read anything that’s so full of shit, so wrong, and so stupid, all in one, in my life.
Congratulations.
http://bgladd.blogspot.com/2008/04/00143.html
The substantive aggregate obstacles to a clean, sustainable future are entirely political, not technological. Entrenched status-quo economic interests simply dictate to their political waterboys that alternatives are “impractical,” “too expensive, “not scalable” etc.
Bullshit.
You really think the NASCAR NPR imperialist consumer anti-intellectual culture that is America is capable of peaceable adaptation to a way of life that doesn’t stomp on and destroy the environment everywhere forever?
How is that hopey-changey thing working out for ya?
New Boss = Old Boss
No Change here—Oil Companies still getting away with murder under Obama—Got that? Understand the relation yet or not?
The heel of the Yucatan Peninsula near a town called Chicxulub.
I have been thinking about that for the past few weeks or so. I find it somewhat compounding that nobody around me seems to get this. I try not to bug people with this, but as TalkingStick mentions, it is just too big to wrap your mind around. Thanks for at least giving confirmation that I am not stark raving mad.
Not yet anyway.
It’s a crap shoot. But one can hope.
It is pretty damn awesome.
Almost worth printing it out and sticking on my fridge as a reminder
how hard, if not impossible it’s gonna be to undo all the toxins that have permeated people’s brains via the endless corporate propaganda.
Yes, that’s right.
Thanks, and good show.
Spare me. See my #19. You have a reading comprehension problem?
Thanks for the link. It really seems that solar is the only reasonable source. If one wants to be theological, it is the first source God gave us.
Just taking a shot in the dark here, but by any chance did you miss your meds this morning? You might want to consider bumping up the dosage.
Societies are certainly capable of change. Look at Germany and Japan. They were terribly repressive before WWII and emerged as quite civilized afterward. So can some country please beat the tar out of us? Maybe that’ll do the trick. Or maybe we’ll beat the tar out of ourselves…
If you add all these components together, what do you suppose the average looks like? Glenn Beck, maybe?
Wow! That map. I had no idea the closed fishing zone was so extensive already!
When the AP turns on a big oil company, things can’t be going well
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100529/ap_on_bi_ge/us_gulf_oil_spill_low_estimates
I have had the same thoughts. We may have a lot of humiliation to swallow before it can begin to happen.
I have such anger at Reagan who chose not just to be oppositional but put on a full court press to speed the killing of the earth. And also such anger at the Bush machine that stole the election from the one politician with intellect and vision who could have begun the changes.
Agree with the both of you. The consequences of this incident are just beginning and are truly staggering. The current fixes are little more than putting a band aid on a massive wound.
What a bunch of B.S.
Mother Earth is bleeding. So Laughable. More oil seeps from the bottom of the earths oceans every day than the Exxon Valdeez. Guess every day is that time of the month for mother earth.
In Fact Mother Earth has smokers cough too. Volcanoes like in Hawaii area erupt and smoke constantly. In fact more than all of manmade air pollution combined. And wait wasn’t Mt St Helens also supposed to block out the sun and kill us all not too many years ago.
And, ha, what about the actor Danny Glover, said that haitis earth quake was Mother Earths response to not passing the global warming summit. Oh and that’s a whole other farce.
Any way. If liberal socialist democrat hacks and their republican counterparts hadn’t been regulating oil companies out of business the oil wells would not have to be dug 12 miles offshore(closest they are allowed). If it was closer to shore they would not have to go so deep to repair and this would have been a done deal in a day or 2. Or if they weren’t banning us from drilling our own oil basin in utah where there is more oil than the middle east….god some people are just idiots.
It’s all about the money baby. Some people get paid by oil interests while others get paid by monetary and govt control interests. Power Baby Power.
P.s. This event dwarfs exon valdeez, yet George Bush (who I don’t particularly favor either) somehow showed up and took over after 10 DAYS-not 5-6 weeks like O’ Illustious evironmental conscious Barrack Hussein Obama. Especially Obama–we should really trust the guy whose soul has been sold to GE. Funny he does a speech talking about alternative energy with windmills in the back ground–guess who has the only viable wind mill turbine patent-GE. Guess who benefits most from “alternative to oil” power – GE. Of the news stations that worship the most at the feet of obama who owns them — GE. Who props up with money the failing banks and systems that will host the carbon credits when they suck your livlihood away with cap and trade—uhhh….yeah —>>>> GE.
Like I said — all about the money baby!
For the upteenth time: Facts are our friends and hyperbole is our enemy.
Funny trolls. Sometimes I forget how twisted these people are. Get it straight numbchuks, Obama ain’t my hero, and Bush can blow me.
alank, very interesting, and thanx for the link.
Having fun yet with this refurbished eco-system in the US of A?
Better get used to it folks because more bad crap is coming and coming and coming, because the powerful, political, and the wealthy do not care about the peasants, in this neo-feudal, New World Order.
At this point you have a better chance of winding up in prison than you do at ever living out that “American Dream” nonsense.
The planet is coming apart in every which way and this latest episode becomes only one more indicator that the capitalists and corporations don’t give a rat’s ass about anything but their bottom line.
Contrary to Mr, Obama, BP does not give one crap about the public or the public interest. BP just cares about drilling for more and more oil and whatever happens, too freakin bad about ya.
Gotta love that Drill, Baby, Drill Obama who is now Spill, Baby, Spill Barack Obama as the president of these United States of America.
Pathetic.
And, this ain’t no Joke, Jack!!! Damn right it ain’t. Pass the Money…..
CNN Breaking News: “Top Kill” Not Working
Excerpt of Tony Hayward’s Speech at the Peterson Institute from this past March, 2010:
“… In the current environment, bankers and the financial sector may have bumped oil companies like BP off the front pages of the newspapers, but it’s a fact that energy security remains at the top of the global political and economic agenda. We have a major role to play….James Schlesinger, who served as the first US energy secretary, once quipped that Americans have only two ways of thinking about energy: “complacency and panic.” I agree with the sentiment but I’d substitute the word “Americans” for “people” because very few people ANYWHERE in the world think much about where their energy comes from. And the big swings in energy markets over the past couple of years illustrate Dr. Schlesinger’s basic point….Our challenge today is how to balance energy security, employment and economic development, with the issue of climate change. I firmly believe we can do it, but not without first acknowledging that the real problem lies above ground rather than beneath it. Getting the POLICY mix right is the surest way to avoid the traps of complacency and panic. So what underpins energy security?….Take for example the US Gulf of Mexico. When BP went into the deepwater Gulf in the early 1990s, the area was known within the industry as “the dead sea.” However, as a result of the technology we developed – primarily advanced seismic imaging techniques – it led to a series of extraordinary discoveries. Today, one in six barrels of oil produced in the US comes from the deepwater Gulf….Similarly, the US revolution in shale gas over the past three years has been made possible thanks to new drilling and fracturing technology. That is a real game-changer when it comes to energy security in this part of the world.”—BP’s Tony Hayward’s Speech at the Peterson Institute from March 23, 2010
A link to the full speech would be greatly appreciated.
“The Dead Sea” — Prophetic..
BP’s Tony Hayward’s Speech at the Peterson Institute from March 23, 2010 can be read in full at the following address:
http://www.bp.com/genericarticle.do?categoryId=98&contentId=7060845
I wonder if the big aquariums can isolate their salt water supply from the ocean. Just like zoos have been curators of the gene pool for endangered animals, aquariums may have to stock fish for such time we can repopulate the Gulf.
Now that the top-kill has been abandoned, it’s readily apparent that there is no way to close down this gusher until they get a relief well drilled in a couple of months.
This is massive, and for the nonce, localized contamination of Water. No one knows the ramifications of what is happening in the Gulf of Mexico. No one knows, really, what to expect. No one can talk about what it might mean vis a vis the Biosphere. But this is Death spewing out down there. But no one has the balls to say so in the mass media. They’re all just skirting around the edges.
Now that scientists are saying that there may be at least as much methane as oil being released, why isn’t the news media reaching out to environmental scientists to report on the effect of the massive quantities of this toxic greenhouse gas being released? Why also is no one discussing the short and long term environmental effects of nearly a million gallons of the toxic dispursant BP continues to use despite the EPA warning and the fact that it is banned in the UK?
Then, as university scientists determined more than a week ago (and reported both in the NYTimes op-ed and Sen Markey’s committee), the total volume released may be anywhere from 50,000 to more than 100,000 barrels a day, yet we are supposed to trust BP and government when they say it’s a fraction of that, some 19-24,000 barrels, just as we were supposed to accept it when they said it was a mere 1,000 or 5,000 barrels a day and refused to release video of the rupture? And yet the mass media continues to repeat the BP/government estimates that this volcanic gusher has “dumped between 18 million and 40 million gallons into the Gulf…” (Yahoo News 5/30)instead of qualifying it with the academic estimates.
Taking the most generally agreed upon academic number of 70,000 barrels a day, that is well over 100 million gallons, far more than the ‘official’ estimate.
Why is this extent of this catastrophic disater being consistently downplayed? Liability?