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For Kenneth Jindal, it wasn’t so long ago that “Washington” and “big government” was the root of all our problems.
In the end, it comes down to an honest and fundamental disagreement about the proper role of government. We oppose the national Democrats’ view that says the way to strengthen our country is to increase dependence on government. We believe the way to strengthen our country is to restrain spending in Washington and empower individuals and small businesses to grow our economy and create jobs.
“We have been frustrated with the disjointed effort to date that has too often meant too little, too late to stop the oil from hitting our coast,” Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal said during a Monday news conference at Port Fourchon with Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano and Interior Secretary Ken Salazar.
“BP is the responsible party, but we need the federal government to make sure they are held accountable and that they are indeed responsible. Our way of life depends on it,” Jindal said.
So Kenneth hates dependence on the federal government—it’s just that Louisiana’s whole way of life depends on the federal government.
Glad we cleared that up.
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One thing that these anti-government types don’t like to admit; we never ‘turn to the government’ until almost every other alternative doesn’t work.
It’s very similar to what Winston Churchill said about Americans…
Clearly he was opposed to an INCREASE in dependence on government. When his entire way of life depends on it, how can there be any increase.[s]
Jindal is perfectly consistent:
For profits and taxes…
When we need bailouts…
Least of all the free market.
Not sure what the second they refers to unless Bobby is saying that whatever goes wrong was the federal government’s fault. Kind of late in the game for Louisiana to say that they don’t always agree that state’s rights are sufficient to the task of handling a multinational corporation’s power.
It’s all just the natural consequence of thinking the sun revolves around oneself.
Ok, anyone actually surprised? These guys do everything they can to undermine the Federal government, put the burden on the states, dismantle the Federal government, and when they have a problem demand that the Feds step in.
I mean, I am not shocked one iota that Jindal is doing this now. He has a disaster and his state cannot cope.
These idiots made this mess. Let the states sort it out.
Oh, that’s right, they can’t.
LOL, beautiful BT.
But, meaningless. These assholes do triple whammies of hypocrisy every day and still maintain a straight face. And the folks that support and follow them continue to support and follow them no matter how many whammies of hypocrisy they perform.
So they deserve all the shit they get. Best be glad I’m not President. If you’d run your entire campain on saying things like “states rights” and we don’t need the gubmint, then I’d do anything and everything in my power to make sure that’s exactly what you got in times like these.
Assholes.
For those confused by the “Kenneth Jindal” reference: http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/kenneth-the-page-responds-to-jindal-comparison/6gm3av5
What’s the frequency, Kenneth?
I’m guessing that something called “volcano monitoring” would still be a waste of money in Jindal’s mind.
Were I president, I’d give them naught but the back of my hand, until he was impeached and replaced with someone else.
funny, he didn’t object to hurricane monitoring…
It’s kinda like that healthcare thing. Rant, rave, and rail against it. . . until it’s your ass or the ass of a loved one that’s dying.
Amen, brother. In spades.
How else they gonna learn?
logic as cockeyed as… well, his smile.
Another right-wing slimeball.
He just figured out that to continue to suck money from the public for his backers by privatizing public wealth and transferring private risk to the public (and enrich himself) he has to get elected again.
I really hope he has a fantastic seashore home now lapping up oil.
FWIW, the only fun I’m having these days is torturing my extreme right wing friend who lives in West Palm Beach by shoving the logical consequences of his extreme ideology down his throat. Of course, he still doesn’t get it. And he’s a brilliant man in so many other ways. ‘Tis a puzzlement.
Nope, never once heard him whine about that.
It’s Bobby Jindal. But the idea is right. Bobby Jindal doesn’t want federal government, except when he does.
We know Haley Barbour does because Bush made sure it was rebuilt like immediately after Katrina.
When Jindal and the rest of the GOP run out of snake-oil to sell, they can start bottling up that watery crude instead.
There is no left (present company somewhat excluded), there is certainly no right.
There is only the all-smothering center.
Blue:
Please.
It’s way past time to ignore the charade acted out by our “two” party system. Perpetuating this farce of democracy only serves them, and hurts us.
They’ve ALL, Dems and Thugs, driven us into the dirt and now we’re talking life and death.
I’m just starting to realize that they’re just getting started.
In the 1930′s the country saw a migration of “Okies” who lost their livelihoods as a result of the environmental impacts of the Dust Bowl. Today we may be witnessing the beginnings of a similar social phenomenon as a consequence of the Gulf environmental catastrophe.
Google “Kenneth Jindal.”
The bottle of snake oil is bottomless when the electorate is unquestionably the most ignorant, naive, and most easily manipulated of any electorate in the advanced industrialized world.
Oh, the “Kenneth” is a deliberate reference to Kenneth the Page from 30 Rock: http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/kenneth-the-page-responds-to-jindal-comparison/6gm3av5
(On edit: BT beat me to it!)
Agreed. Lets get drunk and watch the world burn. I’m buying.
While Rome burned Nero fiddled. Nothing has changed.
Just wait. BP will be asking for a bailout because of all the losses they are sustaining. I’m sure Obama and the Republicrats will agree.
Republicans and libertarians do not believe in the governments role in relieving the suffering of people as a result of forces beyond their control. They see suffering as nothing more than a part of the “natural” order.
Congress and previous administrations took away the tools the current administration needs most to deal with this catastrophe. Can we say modus operandi for the last 30-40 years, Mr. Monk?
Yep. Even when that suffering is caused by man made events or human neglect. The ultimate failure of both philosophies lies in the fact that they both depend on every person behaving in the best way possible toward their fellow human beings all the time. I think the old meme is that the philosophy can’t fail, only people can fail the philosophy. Pure Libertarianism is just like pure communism: It looks great on paper and probably would work if people weren’t what they are. Communism works great for ants, bees and wasps, who share everything mindlessly, while Libertarianism is great for caterpillars which just munch on leaves and do their own thing. People aren’t bugs though.
I sold my fiddle to pay for the booze.
I can play a mean whiskey jug, though. I will even paint “XXX” on the side and tell strangers its my rheumatism medicine, but only if you drink with me.
IMO, this has nothing to do with Dems, Reps or Libertarians. Pols of all stripes have shunted ideology and personal conviction in favor of expediency and public opinion. They are rats on a sinking ship. See how they run.
that is because he got to be appointed a chosen one in the Republican party and then they let him do that rebuttal to Obama’s speech…which worked out really well for him /s
An experiment in libertarianism would make “Lord of the Flies” look like a monks retreat.
Well Jindal has a lot of followers too. Corporate media is having a field day reporting on 1st person victimization of the BP disaster and I find the common refrain of “The feds are doing absolutely nothing to help me.” a bit duplicitous since many of these fishermen have wholeheartedly supported the rape of their own natural ocean environment by the oil plutocracy and furthered it with their Republican votes.
Sure, Obama should be doing more, like turning away from the free market madness that is destroying our biosphere, but these critics appear to me to be just a bunch of selfish bandwagon jumpers who want us to pay for their losses while ignoring their former apathy. Will this disaster teach them to be more conscious about the depredations of capitalism and death-cult of the Republicans? I think not.
The real victims, of course, are voiceless and dying in a toxic soup of oil and chemical dispersants.
This blog post is weak on so many levels.
First, Jindal clearly believes in a “proper role of government,” and I’m sure that protection of property, protecting the environment, and disaster relief are roles he considers proper. There is no contradiction here.
Second, just because you depend on something doesn’t mean you endorse it. For example, I don’t think the government should be delivering mail, and it definitely shouldn’t have a monopoly privilege to do so. Yet that is a function that government has appropriated for itself, and now we all depend on it. So if the government is screwing up mail delivery, and I say it needs to do a better job, I’m not being hypocritical: it does need to do a better job since it has taken over that function. Since government has taken over protecting property, protecting the environment, and disaster relief, Jindal is right: we depend on it to do its job.
See Somalia.
Weak.
I don’t want my mail delivery privatized. I think the postal service does a pretty good job and I don’t think some company owned by let’s say Tom Delay could perform at all. I actually don’t get where you’re coming from.
Libertarians and Republicans wouldn’t consider Somalia a legitimate experiment in their utopia because, well, they’re not white.
Wow! Governor Jindal’s staffers read Firedoglake. Who knew?
Even if they were white, it would be some other reason it failed. Some reason other than the fact that their philosophy is based in fantasy.
Piyush’s folks must rue the day they bought “Hooked On Phonies” …
There’s no UPS or FedEx where you live? I don’t think monopoly means what you think it means.
Indeed, but we find people posting even here who find some way to contort themselves and logic into a pretzel to find a way to make “logical” that Piyush Kenneth “Bobby” Jindal would – on one day – find a way to blast the heck outta “big gubmint” and find it eeevul & all, and then – on another day – be whining about how “big gubmint” ain’t hepin’ me out ENOUGH.
Meh: so sick and tired of the endless hypocrisy and cosmic disconnect practiced by most citizens and enabled and endorsed by most politicians.
Nearly everyone in this stupid country behaves like a dumb selfish child (note: NOT like a smart kid… a very stupid one)… whining and crying about everything. One day it’s: boo hoo I don’t want to ever pay taxes for anything bc some illegal may get the benefit of MY “hard earned” money. The next day it’s: boo hoo the gov’t isn’t doing enough to protect ME ME ME ME ME….
I’m horrified beyond measure at this environmental disaster, but the bulk of the citizens living and working in that part of the USA mostly vote Republican, whine constantly about getting government “out of their lives,” don’t want to pay any taxes, and so on. Now: you reap what you sow. THIS is what it looks like. To bad, so sad, get used to it.
LOL!
Nice catch.
heh… good one!
Seriously. When these folks start WHINING about the post office, fer gawd’z sake, ya know their really REACHING to find something to bitch about. Honestly… too dumb. Go use FedEx if you don’t like the PO, but good luck with how much it costs everyone to communicate with you.
I disagree with the Republicans as much as the next guy, but there’s no need to distort their position. Republicans believe there is are important roles for the Federal Government to play. They aren’t Anarchists and they aren’t (necessarily) stupid. Leaving out the social issues, if you asked them what they think rather than telling them what you think they think, they would say:
“Governments do a poor job (compared to markets) when they try to micromanage the economy (including taxation and entitlement programs) and we would be better off in general if they did this less.”
“Markets are ineffective at handling issues of both grand scope (waging wars, the moon launch, and handling catastrophes) and those not subject to market forces.”
In the case of Jindal, he deserves all the criticism he gets for sponsoring the Deep Ocean Energy Resources Act (H.R. 4761) which now looks like it might not have been such a great idea after all.
How do you know that? They *never* make an affirmative case for government, and rather, have spent three decades saying “government sucks.”
The only thing the Republicans like about “gumint” is a strong military to keep the merchants of death’s profits rolling in. I guess Jindahl has his staff at work doing damage control.
Dunno but our Jindal staffer seems to be unaware that the US Postal Service began before we were a nation:
Since it was created by decree of the Second Continental Congress in 1775. So it’s impossible to have been “taken over” by the government. But that’s not surprising considering that some Republicans don’t know that Congress declared war on Germany on December 11, 1941. History does, after all, have a well known liberal bias.
Just wondering, have you ever chanted, “Drill, baby, drill”?
Did you vote for Bush/Cheney in 2004?
If either answer is yes, then your position is weak on so many levels.
I did love that assertion that we never declared war on Germany. These people are too dumb to breathe.
It would seem that FDL is now on the radar of right wing belief tanks and Republican staffers.
They’re a waste of oxygen.
Though facts still seem to be nowhere near their radar.
You say that markets are ineffective at handling wars so govts do that?
What a load of bullshit. We are today at war on the orders of the ‘market’.
The war on humanity is perpetual because of the ‘market’.
The war on the environment is wholly and completely because of the ‘market’.
These republican talking pts are really stooopid.
Well here’s your free market, de-regulatied, private enterprise in action.
How’s it working out for us?
They don’t give a shit. The one thing BP’s focused on is getting out of this thing with some kind of a profit.
That’s the free market ideology that so many Americans have been cheering on. Just like they’ve convinced people that the only solution to our debt is slashing your retirement account that the feds promised to honor, and throwing grandma into the street.
Double digit trillions for Goldmnan, a ditto that for AIG, a few billion for oil company subsidies, a few billion for Israel, hundreds billions for WMD’s and assorted mercenary armies, hundreds of billions for occupations around the world, and 800 military bases.
But damnit, the only way to control the deficit is by filtering your lifelong savings that we’re holding through JP Morgan Chase.
This is such bullshit. I can’t understand how so many Americans are so willing to humiliate themselves by falling for their own corporate crucifixtion.
Heh. “Get used to it” is exactly what my extreme right wing friend from Florida used to love to say to me when I bitched about Bush and the Iraq War.
Now I tell him it’s a learning moment for him.
LINK ?
The only thing they can see on their radar is the approach of the Graf Zeppelin. Their radars only pick up the past, not the present or a possible future.
How’s that market based well killing going fo ya
No. It always looked like a stupid idea to some of us.
Well stated, sir.
When you all finish congratulating yourselves, you might want to actually read up on the USPS monopoly status, the American Letter Mail Company, and the Private Express Statutes that effectively make it illegal to compete with USPS.
In any case, USPS isn’t my point. My point is that there isn’t anything hypocritical about what Jindal said.
As much it pains me to see, FDL has planted itself firmly on the right-wing radar with all of this “Libertarians are closet racists” drivel. Please…anyone with half a brain knows that Progs are NOT closet-Nazi’s, so why should any more credibility be given to this “Rand Paul is a racist” meme? Oh! Because its THEM that are backtracking! “We got’em on the run boys!”. There is meaningful discourse to be had about the appropriate role of government in our republic, but seeing how the GOP treated Progressives during the Iraq War (“Unpatriotic!”) has not dissuaded many here from using those same approaches (“Closet bigot!”) to attack libertarians.
There is an astounding amount of common ground between libertarians and progressives, but I guess the divide and conquer MSM wins again.
Jane, I hope the traffic boost was worth the compromised quality of content.
Laterz.
This is your “buringing” issue? Is your compensation by the post or by the hour?
The things that divide us are the things we DON’T have in common. I don’t wish to pave my own roads, fight my own fires and police my streets, thank you very much. I also don’t associate with the Klan.
Well, I’m a very solid FDL citizen and supporter, and I don’t understand this knee-jerk reaction against classic libertarian philosophy, either. I see many areas of positive overlap with progressive thought.
Read On Liberty by John Stuart Mill, and then tell me what you find objectionable about actual classic libertarian philosophy, as opposed to the phony modern Neal Boortz travesty version. (It’s only about 80 pages, available online.)
Can’t speak for Jane, but I can’t see where anyone who frequents this site could reasonably arrive at the conclusion that the community here believes libertarians are a monolith; there are a number of libertarians who are frequent commenters and contributors at affiliate site The Seminal.
Why don’t you tell us why you are really here?
I’m just a guy who likes being around people who think differently than me; it keeps me from being intellectually lazy and living in an echo chamber. That’s why I’m here. Also I’ve been a fan of Jane Hamsher for a couple of years. If you all (mostcromulent and friends) prefer group-think and preaching to the choir, that’s your choice.
Yet another thing we have in common.
And because you personally can’t do a few things, the government must do all things? Bulletproof logic.
I’d be happy for the US mail to fold.
All I receive is junk mail & bills. Or bills and junk mail.
However, it was the internet of its day, and performs a vital function at a remarkably low cost.
I suppose you are happy with the costs of your non-government run health care? Unlike the balance of the industrial world, who get better and lest costly results with their government run heath car.
Um, I’m having difficulty seeing where Twain called for the government to do everything. Can you point it out?
Now you’re being silly. There are plenty of things that must be done by the federal gov’t. Think of the chaos of private citizens trying to keep people safe etc.
No, I can’t. But insinuating that I am a klansman doesn’t usually bolster my ability to accurately source arguments.
Business does well at thing that are unique and have value. Business does not do well at commodity delivery, such as roads or banking, which do not have unique value, and as a result ends up screwing customers, employees and shareholders trying to be “unique”.
Business externalize costs and internalize profit. Government do the reverse, externalize profit and internalize costs, to both spread common good, benefits, and to spread risks risks, for example disaster relief.
We’ve tried private fire departments and private police and private armies. The results were poor.
I doubt that you are a klansman and I didn’t say that. Check Daddy Paul’s associates going way back.
Insinuating that Rand Paul isn’t a racist sort of tarnishes your credibility though. Obviously he is.
Not to mention private prisons.
And the world isn’t round either. It’s shaped like a burrito. Again, you and I must have a very different definition of the word “hypocritical”.
I have to go finish my workout though. That’ll give you time to come up with a sharp rejoinder. Catch up with me on a new thread….unless Bobby decides you’re not working out very well that is.
I completely agree. Effective and robust government programs are a must. I am not an anarchist, there must be government. But government with more accountability, and if I had my druthers…less scope.
Ain’t this just the hypocritical GOPee way– “Screw you, I got mine!” until something impacts them (see Nancy Reagan & Alzheimer’s or the Cheneys and gay rights).
explain, please. less scope?
Obviously a racist. I will defer to your clairvoyance.
Nice to meet someone here who isn’t a knee-jerk defender of USPS. As for health care, no I am not happy with its cost. But since Obamacare (forgive the pejorative) is virtually identical to Romneycare, and Romneycare hasn’t lowered costs, why should I expect Obamacare to lower them? It won’t be long before the entire country is in a mess like Massachusetts. In any event, I don’t find the health care offered in the rest of the industrial world appealing; it may or may not be better than the status quo here, but I think we can do much better with radical free-market reforms.
Uh…OK. Bobby Jindal’s changed his tune. How about a show of hands of those who are surprised at this stunning revelation? He’s crying…no, make that SCREAMING “uncle”.
Now…it’s time for Part B.
So…where the hell is the U.S. Cavalry, Obama, and the feds?
Wanna make a point, Obama?
Save the fucking day, OK?
I’m an anti-war whore. Cut defense spending in half, and you now have oodles of money to pay for existing programs that people depend on. I have no problem with providing services so long as we try to minimize the use of the citizens credit card to do so.
If you didnt read Greenwald yesterday…its a must.
Great, easily understandable analogy. I will keep this one in mind. Thanks.
It’s probably too harsh, try lubricating it first.
All this blather about shades of grey… just when there’s an unmitgated disaster. Brings out the Republicans, the Tea Partiers and the Libertarians to say: well, I never meant NO government. With due respect to folks who post here, and whom I don’t know personally… it IS unfair to paint anyone with a broad brush.
That said, from my *personal* experience, I have numerous folks – friends, family, business colleagues, etc – who call themselves R’s, TeaP’s and/or Libertarians – sometimes it’s quite confusing to me bc one individual appears to identify as all THREE at once. Yet I see some posters here who state emphatically that they are one or the other, not some mashup of two or three labels.
So, I dunno. But what I do know is that I have been barraged over my lifetime by conservatives that I know endlessly saying “I want gov’t out of my life;” “Gov’t is too big;” “The market can make all the corrections needed without the gov’t intervening;” “We don’t need big gov’t;” “States rights only;” and so forth. *Most* of the conservatives I know are very much against nearly ALL taxes; don’t want anything that’s “socialized” (although in the end, they do bc they all send their kids to public schools, they all drive on the roads, they all use public transport, they all drive on bridges, they call the PD and fire dept when needed and so on).
So I can see why people who post here find Piyush quite the hypocrit. Becuase he railed against “big govt” but now Piyush wants it. And then conservatives come out of the woodwork to make these seemingly (to me) convenient distinctions about what “govt” *should* be doing. It’s too confusing! So pardon me, if I find it all too hypocritcal. You’ll have to be painted with that brush bc of everything I hear from those I know, plus the little I hear and see from those on the right, aka RushSeanGlennBillo… who are, face it, constantly railing against the evils of “big govt”
And these shades of grey about “limiting scope”…. what the??? And what, EXACTLY, does that mean? I also hear these phrases bandied about quite freely, but there’s never any definition attached to it. So what does “limiting scope” really mean?? Limiting gov’t to what does YOU, personally, the most good? Frankly, that’s how my family sees it.
Well, I’ll stop now, but I will defend the Post Office. I frankly don’t “get” what is so horribly wrong with PO. It actually does a good job, and yeah, I hate all the dumb brochures and junk mail, too. But quite honestly, BIG BUSINESS REQUIRES the post office to run well and efficiently. Try going into ANY business anywhere, and check out how well they’ll run if they don’t have the Post Office. I double dog dare you. It helps to be a little informed about how the almightly corporations actually RELY on Uncle Sam’s Post Office to stay efficient and effective.
Bingo.
BIG fan of John Stuart Mill here. I’ve always been a BIG believer in Mill’s harm principle.
Great philosopher, and On Liberty is worth the read for anyone.
Maybe Bobby needs to talk to the guy that REALLY runs his state and is directing the federal response:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2U0z2gCnIs
Go kiss some BP CEO ass, Bobby. That should be hog heaven for you.
If only it would bring out a response from Obama and the federal government, eh Blue Texan?
That’s you to the core, Nathan, always thinking about the other guy’s feelings lol.
Got an itch lol? You know we usually agree on most things, so the fact that I honor some libertarian principles should enable you to stay in the gray area. ;-)
You’re clearly on point about righties never acknowledging shades of gray until making fine distinctions is seen to benefit them. That’s what it means to be totally self-centered and selfish. Fuck ‘em, I say.
When I was young, I wanted to be a psychotherapist. I studied hard, and had a double major in psych at NYU, all A’s and one B. I saw that there were about a dozen “accepted” theories extant, and each had some good components as well as some that just did not fit. So I changed paths. Many years later, I stumbled upon the “inner child” approach, and, BINGO, I knew that was the right way to think about people.
Political and economic ideologies are the same way. each contains some good thoughts and ideals, and each has at least one fatal flaw. Unlike with psychology, I’ve never found one unifying view that was not vulnerable to strong criticism, either in theory or practice, or both.
So, I just let pragmatism be my guide. What works for real people? If it works, I’m for it. Period. Libertarianism celebrates individual personal freedom and achievement, and those are good things. When it becomes too much about the individual, and not enough about the community, my pragmatism tells me that the community deserves more weight and deference.
Labels are so much harder to deal with than people with good hearts, acting in good faith, and with good intentions.
Keep dealing with the grays, my friend. That is where the action is.
Sigh.
Isn’t it funny that these Republican States, Governors, and People that hate regulation, big government, want free unabated business, low taxes, and the Government out of their lives.
Now that tragidy is on their doorstep, are calling for the government to save them.
Blaming a Democratic Administration they have bashed at every turn, and now they want it to hop to when they need it.
We need to feel sorry for the poor wildife that is suffering at this, but I wonder if the people deserve to be felt sorry for.
You see what one believes, pushes, and votes for can have dire consequences. These Republican holyer than thow States, and their pompose asses for politicains, may reaping the rewards for what they sowed.
Remember that they voted for and supported the Republicans that deregulated the Banks and Wall Street, and basically caused every crisis this Country has with their ideology.
Those big business’s they love are cleaning their clocks, and dumping their toxic sludge right on them. God which they also push to the hilt, isn’t sweeping down with some devine intervention to save their asses either.
Yes razor, we often have similar viewpoints… not that getting a different or opposing viewpoint is unwanted or “bad.” I welcome all.
I guess that’s why I see myself as more or less of a “liberal” or leftie or progressive… bc it seems to me as if that “side” tends to be more open to the shades of grey… and finding the balance between individual liberties and rights v. the common good (if you will).
In my experience, the righties/conservatives that I know (bearing various labels – either Republican and/or Tea Party and/or Libertarian) tend to SPEAK out more in terms of “black and white” “for or against” and so forth. The big thing I hear them going on about is the “horror” of “big govt” and how they don’t want it “in their lives” (unless it’s in my bedroom telling me who I can have sex with or whether I can have an abortion or not… then it’s FINE to have govt mess in my life, but that’s another blog altogether).
I don’t care about labels, but distinctions do matter. I’ve been rambling on lately about how I really honestly don’t know what conservatives mean by their labels and the fine distincitions between them. Plus I find the present Piyush Kenneth Purcell “Bobby” Jindal situation hypocritical in the extreme. That’s just me; that’s how I see it. And so on… and so it goes…
The people you are talking about are not anarchists. They believe at a minimum that government should be protecting property and rights, and providing police, courts, and national defense. They also probably want government doing a whole lot more besides, like running some kind of minimal social safety net. In the case of an actual politician like Jindal, he definitely wants the government doing more, since he is actually in government doing more. The idea that these people “don’t want government involved with anything” is just a nonsense distortion, misrepresentation, straw man made up by people like Blue Texan to fuel bogus accusations of hypocrisy.
In reality, Jindal was criticizing the federal government for its inadequate response to Katrina back in 2005. There is no conceivable way that Jindal has been against a role for government in a disaster like this one; it’s just something Blue Texan made up so he could call another Republican a hypocrite.
In Jindal’s case however, it is unique (or perhaps not, considering…) – he is the Governor who after Obama gave his first joint-session speech, derided the government for volcano monitoring.
His ignorance was rewarded, and his ideological stupidity (and that of his compatriots) were on full display.
The current ‘Libertarian’ streak in the Republican Party is a talking-points charade.
Here’s what Jindall said in his 2009 SOTU response:
The reality is Jindal, and those like him want their cake but not pay for it. It’s a type of Libertarianism (“Greed is a Virtue”) that infects both parties, but really has swamped the Republican party.
And, shatteringly, David Brooks hit Jindal’s nail right on the head that evening.
He literally destroys Bobby.
And I forgot to say, that is a very timely transcript pull.
You guys really don’t need to convince me that Bobby Jindal sucks. Yet I see nothing in his record to suggest that he has ever believed that when a company like BP “is the responsible party” in an environmental disaster, the federal government should not “make sure they are held accountable.” Since he is a politician, I am sure we can find in his record any number of hypocritical actions and statements. But this particular accusation of hypocrisy is bogus for the reasons I’ve spelled out.
Well, it’s not just you, you are seeing clearly that the people you disdain earn that disdain by deliberately misusing the language to mindfuck others into thinking they act according to principle, when their only true principle is MEMEMEMEME. I say fuck all liars, period. But don’t let a liar discredit an entire school of thought just by claiming to subscribe to it. Words are nothing, actions are everything.