Aloha, Suz…!

Suzanne!

Checkin in to say howdy Suz! Howdy CT!

aloha ct — how’s paradise tonight?

hey newton — how ya doing tonight?

hey larue — how’s sac tonight?

Specter…
Defeated…
Unimaginably satisfied.

*heh* One…!

evening, Suz

Gorgeous day today, nice evening showers cooling it off…! ;-)

hey ppd — how ya doing tonight?

And howdy Newtonusr!

ha! arlens song

You’re still dancing on his grave, eh…? ;-)

Temps are low for this time of year, cloudy and windy today, clearing and in the mid 70′s for another week. Unheard of. Usually in 90′s daily by now.

Gotta say, with Specter gone, and a runoff for The Blanched, today was a good day for smug revenge.

i gotta winter storm headed this way… high wind warnings predicting gusts in the 60′s, lotsa rain and snow levels dropping to pass levels. weather dood keeps talking about how unusual this type of storm is in may

mr big stuff

AND THE KILLIN GOEZ ON AND ON AND…

Citizen Suzanne and the Late Nite Firepup Freedom Fighters:

Ah sweet Suzanne…the blossom of my heart, crank it up tanight, we’re gettin warmed up for a real fight this Fall. We can watch ObamaRhama paddle his leaky “bipartisan” war canoe with his bare hands and a smile while Democrats in the congress hoist the flag on his paddles. Remember the old anti-war line “What if they held a war and nobody showed up?”…well, I think we’re gunna get ta find out ‘cuz that’s all Rahm and Mrs. McClinton have got for a general election strategy but the rest of the country ain’t buyin’it!

EEEEEEEdoggies, what a great night ta be an American patriot!! And now we’re gunna find out what real American fascism looks like and the corporate media is gunna shit bricks when Conway takes Rand Paul down ta the mat in debates in Kentucky…fuckin’ Kentucky, can you believe that???!!!

Now the strategy of makin’ alliances with the lunatics Paulites looks a bit weak, wouldn’tcha say?

KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION, THERE IS NO COMPROMISIN’ WITH FASCISTS!!

the people of PA to spectre

norske!!! how goes it citizen? always good to see your fonts

Citizen CTuttle:

Hey you salty old sea urchin…how they hangin’ brother?

get ready, blanche, we’re coming

I was just online chattin with some folks headed to the BerryFest next week, some folks already there camping in the woods, others that were in the area last week.

Inside, there’s two inches of water in one of the main camping sections. There’s standing water all over the fest grounds in large deep puddles, it snowed and rained there off and on for the past few weeks, and there’s snow and rain coming this weekend.

The Fest Gates open May 27 at 8am.

Gonna be a cold and wet one, I think. We’ve had snow before, a couple of inches day before (while we were camped out in the woods), sometimes snow to melt during the fest. One spring fest not long ago it rained all 4 days, was in the mid 30′s at night . . . used our shovel to drain off runoff water around the tent and canopy.

Fun!!!

I saw her speech tonight. She is in a panic.

Bubba didn’t help. Obama didn’t help. Her Senate brethren didn’t help. Incumbency didn’t help.
And Jane, Gawd bless her, didn’t help either.

I noticed that in Kentucky where Rand Paul won, that the the Republican vote total for both candidates was about 330,000. The Democratic vote total was about 447,000. The Republicans are supposedly all fired up this year and the Democrats aren’t.

or it could be 104 in the shade and not a cloud in sight :) ya just never know

i heart jane

hey az matt — i heard paul got less votes than the loser in the d primary… gonna be an interesting general

how ya been?

I’m doing alright, my middle’un is graduating from HS Friday and the eldest will be getting her Masters shortly thereafter…! ;-)

BLANCHED today, and deep fried in November!

*G*

i want her a lovely shade of toast in the runoff in june

That is true – Paul – 206,159, Conway – 226,773.

Citizen Suzanne:

Ah well, since I don’t hafta look at my “fonts” I’ll take yer word for it…Mrs. Norske used ta say the same thing though, but lately not so much…LOL. Growin old ain’t so bad when ya consider the alternative.

I’m too old ta stay up late but tonight is special…been workin’ local politics fightin’ a land grab and the city “old guard” and doin the shit work for our nextdoor neighbor who is a hell on wheels city council person and an entirely new city council (mostly) is headin’ right for a cagematch with the old town bosses over rewritin’ the city charter and dealin’ with the budget mess the fuckin fascists in this state have left us with…and of course Washington ain’t been real helpful.

You Firepups who find yerselves depressed and gettin a bit cynical about politics should get down and dirty with your local folks…you will soon find out that this is a pretty big tent we live under even if it’s got some big holes that don’t get the rain or the oil leaks out and folks you live next to are just as scared as you are…so don’t drop out, drop in and find out what citizenship is like again.

that’s gotta have miss mcconnell and friends reaching for the antacids…

Not too sure about the 104F up there . . . Here’s the long range forecast thru next Tuesday, fest opens two days later.

*G*

Uh, that’s what I meant . . . geez . . . deep fried in June, the primary, with Halter winning in November. *rollseyesatself*

good norske. we gotta make changes on the local level to be effective at making changes on larger races.

shrudder… well, my hyperbole did cover all the bases :)

If Rand Paul takes RSCC money does that mean he isn’t really a teabagger? Does that mean he is the same old GOP’er?

will the RNC support him in the general?

Better yet… Will Mitch back him…? Bwhahaha…! ;-)

Even better…
The Arkansas runoff is in three weeks – June 8th. She either beats Halter, or settles into that nice comfy chair at the lobbying firm of her choice.

I suppose I owe ya a quaff or two…? ;-)

*rubbing hands together gleefully*

will be interesting watching for sure

a double latte would always be welcomed

So can Specter run as an Independent? Hi Suz, PPDCUS and all.

Citizen CTuttle:

Congrats for yer kids…we just went to our yougest’s undergraduate comencement and celebrated her havin the opportunity to turn down Northwestern University for an all expenses paid two year assistanceship and Masters at NDSU in Fargo…fuckin’ FARGO, can ya believe that??!! And the faculty in the Marraige and Family Counciling PHd program at the U of MN is cuttin a slot for her in the upcomin group in 2012-13.

We’re all really stoked around here…except God damned Fargo, I keep tellin Mrs. Norske that if Emmy ken survive 2 years in Fargo then we will handle it ok.

Heading yer way….! ;-)

He did already. Tonight. Before Paul had spoken to his peeps.
He was on that bandwagon so fast you could see a vapor trail.

grabbing it as it slides down the counter

thanks dood

hey margot — iirc, PA has an anti-sore loser law preventing him from trying to pull a lieberman

how’s ohio tonight?

I’ve been to Devils Lake…! *gah*

yeah

Citizen CTuttle:

Well, as Grampa Ole used ta say “now you (we) know what makes the world go ’round”…seein’ the kids steppin up and out really makes ya think you’ve done sumpthin right, don’t it?

That’s a story that may not make it into MSM!

norske, jen the bride (two years end of this month so i’m gonna have to stop calling her that) and her hubby have declared that they are trying to make me a grandma

hey loohoo — how’s socal tonight?

Heh, first I heard about Ol’ Snarlin Arlin’.

Good fucking riddance.

Blanched Lincoln needs to go away too.
Hey, Baked Alaska and Blanched Lincoln, sounds like dessert to me!

busted! *smooches* how ya doing tonight dood?

hi margot

Citizen Suzanne:

ROFLMAO…that was a great movie too! But ya know, as Emmy said,”The people here (Fargo) need what I’m studying as much as people anywhere else in the country”….from the mouths of babes, huh? “Teach yer children well…”

Oh yeah. DeMint will see to that. He’s running things now.

she’s gonna pick up the accent, eh, yanno

Citizen Suzanne:

Yeahmahn…what a treat you have in store, bless your heart you deserve it!!

Rain almost every day here. Wonderful for all the gardens.
Elder son is making really good food from Jamie Oliver’s newest cookbook; he made a granola that’s like candy, nuts fruit honey yum.

Congratulations to Emmy and Parents!!

Oh, just peachy. I got smacked in the jaw right under my ear with the equivelent of a ball peen hammer this morning, standing on the side rail of a semi truck with a tank on the back. No where to go, I am lucky I don’t have a glass jaw, I woulda went sailing.
Not my idea of a good time.
Fucker is sore and swollen up but I’ll live to be just a little bit ornerier tomorrow.

now there is all this technology — she has an ovulation app on her cellphone — boy oh boy things sure have changed since i was trying to conceive her

Well,I gotta suck it up and tuck it in ‘cuz the dogs are gunna be up at first light. Goodnight Firepups…oh, has anyone had a Raven sightin’ lately?

That will be wonderful if it all works out, Suz! Imagine baby love without all the responsibility?!

babe! yikes.. got ice on it?

We hear you’re some kinda hero, Busted.

Two years already…? Dayam, time flies…! ;-)

steph had tornados on the ground in colorado today — and she’s turning into quite the cook herself. does me good to know my kids can finally cook *laughing* ups the odds of my eating food that i haven’t fixed when i visit

Something like that.
Heya Norske, sorry I missed ya dude.

he’s a magic man

Just a mechanic honey, like I would leave her stranded?
Not.
She’s my friend!

Aloha, Norske…! Congrats…!

g’nite norske — raven tends to be a morning type so i rarely if ever am lucky enough to cross paths

Haven’t seen Raven lately. Lots of folks I haven’t seen lately…

Yep, but which way would the vote split for him. Would he take votes away from the dems or the repug?

Citizen Bustednuckles:

Owch…I felt that one all the way back here, are ya doin ok? I’m still here, have you heard from the Raven lately? I don’t spend a lotta time around here much anymore?

You sure it ain’t broke…? 8-(

You’re everyone’s hero for what you did for Suz. She sews, I hear…

hey senator — how ya doing tonight?

handy skill to have just in case someone has all their buttons pop off their shirt

I am good. Helped Sara pack for Las Vegas over the weekend. She and her fella got there just fine.

I started looking at apartments in Vegas online.Cheeeeaaaappp.

big downturn in housing and lotsa rentals on the market is what i’ve heard. you thinking of moving?

Citizen Loo Hoo:

I been cuttin’ back on my FDL time lately…gettin’ too old ta dance with some a the youngsters in the “new wave” around here who like spendin’ time in front of the mirror and practicin’ for their 15 minutes. That’s why I liked teachin so much…’cuz at least most of the kids knew there was stuff they didn’t know yet…sigh…take care.

I am moving somewhere. Either Sonoma, Oakland/Berkeley or Vegas. Quite the picks, huh.

Well, it’s nice to hear from the new kids, but it’s also really nice to see the veterans! Lots of folks I miss, so it’s really nice to see you tonight.

pros and conss for each — trickiest part is to figure out where the pros outweigh the cons

Oarfish interruption.

Mary, Sonoma and Oakland/Berkeley seem really expensive compared to Vegas. Like double or triple!

email from busted who is having computer trouble:

Please tell Norske it was nice to see him again, I don’t get by much, tell CTuttle, it ain’t broke but I got my bell rung real good. Say Hi to everyone else and G’thud!

g’thud busted

holy moly thatsa some fish! wow

Nighters to Busted. Hope you don’t wake up with a headache.

Vegas is was so off my radar until Sara told me about the cost of living. I could get a nice place for $550 to $600. She has a place that is 3 bedrooms and 3 baths for $750.

geez.. but then there are the offsets.. like the monthly electric bill for all the a/c

Sara said that the newer houses are so energy efficient that it isn’t that bad.

Aloha, Busted, and try and get some restful sleep…!

Drugs would help, too. Big fat white pills with 600 on the side.

Wow. That is really cheap. People there adjust to the heat by shopping after dark, keeping drapes closed where the sun is shining, etc. In the winter it can get pretty cold, which is actually easier to fix!

Yes, electricity would be expensive, but with that kind of rent sounds like you’re still money ahead.

From what I am finding on google, PA has sore loser law. So he can’t run as an Independent. But I don’t know which way he would have pulled votes if he had run as an I.

MARY gets the prize for the #100!

congrats on snagging the 100 mary

I am a hundurd percenter!

i could never adjust to it — i just melt when it gets over 85.

my mom and sister are in az and just love it.

Nice a classic victorian farmhouse. my fav.

Looks more like Berkeley or Sonoma though!

I have friends who bought and thought they could retire in Chandler outside of Phoenix, but ended up selling. It was just too hot. Fortunately, they’d rented their place here so they could move back.

True. Not many Victorians in Vegas. The architectually significant homes were built in 1955. Early Vegas.

mid century modern? now so much built in vegas is california contemporary with open floor plans.

Eichlers? Love ‘em.

The Paul family.

love nahant’s eichler — always been drawn to the mid century modern

I have a friend who just bought a really nice one bedroom condo in Palm Springs for 60K. Really retro…turquoise tile and all in really nice shape. Old PS where the movie stars used to live.

oh that is a wonderful pic loohoo

At least it ain’t the Palin Family.

This is cool–vote for kids’ Google doodles
http://www.google.com/doodle4google/vote.html
The theme was “If I could do anything, I would…”

hahahaha

HI Mary Sonoma is very nice. Where is it best for yours and Ron’s work? The animals don’t like the heat.

HA! You got me!

hey bb — how’s your bay tonight?

Any one see the movie iron man 2? I found the product placement oh so obvious. As if they aren’t going to make enough on this film. Did you see Elon Musk co-founder of Paypal, Space X and Tesla?

that is so cool — the kindergarten ones are my favs.. had a hard time choosing.

You challenged my veracity in an earlier thread today. Since I’m not sure you’d see this response were I to post it there, I’ll add it here. (Perhaps it will add to the general conversation here as well.)

I can say this because I and many others were both saying and writing about Obama’s real nature long before the election.

I recall a lot of talking, I don’t recall a lot of evidentiary proofing.
Show me the links. Surely you kept your diaries, have a log or bookmark of threads with your comments. With proof of what you claim you said Obama was.

Much of what I was saying in 2008 I was saying in personal communications, or in things online that would identify me personally, which I’m certainly not willing to do here. Other things don’t seemed to have been saved by the various comment systems, so I’ve extracted relevant sections from my own archives.

Of course, these are a small sampling of comments by one person. Similar statements were being made, constantly, by many others.

I think this should answer any question about the truth of my statements.

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Because Obama has said he’ll say *anything* to be President. He’ll say anything. And change nothing. – January 2008

Both candidates are effectively corporate war-promoting clones. – January 2008

A person following national politics might want to listen to this:

Obama: Anti-Clinton Radio Ad

(For those who don’t like to click on links, it’s one of Obama’s first radio ads from South Carolina, the first one in which he said anything negative about Clinton, and so acts much like an opening sequence for the dream of his candidacy and potential presidency. The clip starts out “I’m Barack Obama, candidate for president, and I approve this message.” and the next words are “It’s what’s wrong with politics today. Hillary Clinton will say anything to get elected.” There’s more, of course, but the ad concludes “Hillary Clinton. She’ll say anything. And change nothing.”) – May 2008

Obama, his speeches, and what his presidential candidacy might mean and lead to…without addressing shadow change isn’t possible…while there was discussion of what Obama might be bringing up into collective consciousness, there wasn’t a whole lot of talk about what Obama *wasn’t* bringing into collective consciousness. Thus in reality nothing could change, since shadow and change are the same thing. – May 2008

As long as we keep mistakenly believing that the hope lies with the *candidate* (any candidate), instead of *ourselves*, we’re going to stay right where we are. – July 2008

McCain’s value isn’t so much as a viable candidate (Obama’s a fine candidate for the right already), but as a way of radically moving what people consider the center. Obama is a centrist, even center right, candidate. – July 2008

“Change we can believe in” is, funnily enough, completely accurate. It’s sad, however, that it means “not much.”

That’s not entirely snarky, either (though I do like the snark twofer factor). I write it to illustrate how clever political messages, like a seduction on a national scale, let the listener easily project their own beliefs and hopes.

Thus, “Change we can believe in” doesn’t ever directly *say* what kind of or how much change we might actually get. It’s not Obama’s fault if supporters just happen to believe in, say, support for them over personal power, just like it’s not his fault if they believe in Santa or the Tooth Fairy, or that the sexy new guy they’re seeing isn’t married with two kids.

In the beautiful way the unconscious works, however, the statement has always revealed what we can actually expect, if we’re willing to be honest and not just see what we want to see (just like it’s hard for Dubya to not see Iraq as a victory. It’s too psychically painful to see the alternative. We all have the same weakness, just with different material).

One can perform the same analysis about why the other campaign statement is “Hope.”

“Change we can believe in” = “You know how much I love you, baby.” – July 2008

Obama never, never talks about how we got here, or any kind of consequences for the perpetrators, or any real connection with reality at all. – October 2008

You’re falling for the trick – Obama is already the establishment’s favored candidate. McCain’s positions exist to make Obama’s already pro-business centrism look liberal by comparison.

The whole idea is to get people to be uncritical of Obama: “You’re unhappy now? Just think how bad it would have been if McCain had been elected.” – October 2008

This is what happens in every election. It’s like a magic trick, by the time the audience is involved the misdirection has already happened. You can tell because while the choices change, the system never does. – October 2008

The right way to think of Obama is not as a liberator (though that’s exactly the image the skillful oratory you rightly notice is designed to evoke), but as seducer.

His repeatedly telling Americans who have been disaffected by the past eight years just what they want to hear (for example, that he’s against torture), but then coming out against the actions that would support the positions claimed by his words, suggest his sincerity extends only as far as getting what benefits him (votes), and rarely to actually doing what it takes to back it up unless it benefits him, even in situations as Constitutionally clear-cut as this one (torture and war crimes).

It’s just like the smooth, new boyfriend telling a girl “you know I only love you, baby” and then screwing whoever he wants once she gives it up to him.

This will be the dominant pattern of the Obama Administration. For Bush it was violence, for Obama it’s seduction.

Of course, at this point in time the American public desperately wants to be seduced, so they’ll either need to accept responsibility for their part in this or accept the consequences. – November 2008

The way around the story is to go out and talk to other people, in the real world. Decide for yourself whether what you hear on the TV (or read in a comment) is true. And go out looking not just for common ground, but also be open to finding and embracing those who are different. To the the people you don’t understand, you’re just as much of a “fucktard” as they are to you. Unless you open up to them, not to change them or convince them they’re wrong and you’re right, but simply to find out why what matters to them matters to them, you’re being exactly as stubborn and close-minded as they are.

I hated learning that. :-) It was ever so much safer to blame my unhappiness with the world and my impotence at changing it and myself on the people I didn’t like or didn’t understand. – October 2008

I think (our) resources would be best spent educating the population on the way the media restricts and controls our electoral choices. Given the way the media has both selected the candidates already, and then covers the race strictly as a personality contest (instead of a national discussion about how we the people want to run our country, and who we select to implement *our* policies for *us*), simply playing along, even with good intentions, is enabling and codependent.

Yes, doing the right thing is hard. But if you won’t do it, who will? – January 2008

hey spocko — how ya doing tonight?

hey ev — how ya doing tonight?

I media trained him.

Good rain clean air. Did a 4 mile run knocked 4 minutes or so off of the time. Had an hour of yoga before. Rowed Sunday and hope to tomorrow. Getting more flexible and meditating and learning yoga mind. How’s your bay?

i rarely see a movie nowadays. just no real desire to anymore

hatches battened down for the blow headed this way – tomorrow is supposed to get gnarly with a winter storm

Poof

g’nite bb

Wow, Margot! That was really cool. I voted in each category.

sorry folks — its been a long day and i’m plum tuckered out — i’m gonna head out a wee bit early tonight.

thanks for all the discussions tonight and for letting me spend a wee bit of your evening with ya

g’nite all

Ok, so, no bookmarks of folks here, or you here, at FDL, telling us Obama lovers (given Clinton or McCain? No brainer, as Tanbark pointed out earlier today, as I’ve said all along) we shoulda known better that he’d be as bad as he is.

I give up, you claim the high ground and keep it. You win. You were smart, we ignored all you smart people (although there’s no PROOF of you smart people ever tellin us Obamabots we were wrong).

And now, our remorse of electing a failed leader we had hope for is our punishment for not listening to all you smart people back then.

You work too hard at this, methinks.

‘Nite Suz if yer lurkin (great clip tonite from a great movie), and to all other Puppers . . . zzzzzzzz.

Good night, Suz. Thanks.

Did I miss something? Was there someone else to vote for? Does someone lament that we didn’t end up with McCain/Palin?