Suffer the high-minded intelligentsia at the Federal Reserve, veritable Knights Templar of the financial universe, who struggled mightily to brace the gates of Wall Street against the barbarian onslaught of American consumers, those Wal*Mart Philistines who were too feeble-minded and innumerate to grasp the intellectually lofty arcana that was the synthetic CDO-backed housing bubble they unwittingly helped expand:
As top Federal Reserve officials debated whether there was a housing bubble and what to do about it, then-Chairman Alan Greenspan argued that the dissent should be kept secret so that the Fed wouldn’t lose control of the debate to people less well-informed than themselves.
“We run the risk, by laying out the pros and cons of a particular argument, of inducing people to join in on the debate, and in this regard it is possible to lose control of a process that only we fully understand,” Greenspan said, according to the transcripts of a March 2004 meeting.
Poor Alan Greenspan. What a battle royale he waged against the rabbling knaves!
Even Tim Geithner, then president of the New York Fed, raised concerns. “[T]he issue has been raised by [Federal Open Market Committee] Vice Chairman Geithner and others that our current policy stance may contribute to potential financial imbalances down the road,” then-Vice Chairman Ben Bernanke said, according to the transcript, before dismissing such concerns.
“Financial imbalances,” indeed. Imagine what might have happened had those “simpleton” consumers not been encouraged by the Cheerleader-in-Chief to go out and buy houses in galaxies far beyond their pay scale. Imagine what might have been had they not been targeted by predatory lenders and signed over their life savings (and their children’s) for homes worth, in reality, only a fraction of their price tags. Imagine what might have been if those noble, self-sacrificing investment banks hadn’t devised complex houses of cards built with those highly volatile mortgages. Imagine what might have happened had Alan Greenspan had the country’s best interests in mind instead of trying to turn the Fed into his own version of the Illuminati.
And still, this paternalistic, condescending fuckwit is the TradeMed’s go-to guy on all things Fed. I guess I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue.




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watertiger!
most excellent
A thing of beauty.
How something so foul could be summarized at all…
rarefied air they sniff, rarefied air
delicious
grazie, signore.
the sniff of superiority with which Greenspan made these decisions is absolutely infuriating.
.
The Elite think they are Philosopher Kings they think that what is easy for them is always the best solution.
They have lost their self control.
Fuck Alan Greenspan and the horse he rode in on (and Summers and Rubin while we are at it). These asshats should be exiled to a distant galaxy after all the damage they did to the economy.
heh. you and i are on the same wavelength, elliott.
Watertiger – WEEEEEE! King Greenspan the Lyinghearted! How evocative. To add to the cast:
RobingHood Rubin
Sherrif of Nothingham Summers
Friar Fuck – apropos of nothing, but just was fun to type!
I nominate Geithner for the position of Friar Fuck.
LOL! Friar Fuck can be played by Tiny Tim Geithner. he’s got the ears for it.
great
Evidently we’z all on the same wavelength… hee!
And how could I over look this:
Maiden (Lane) Marion!
Oh, BRAVO!!!!
We need to cast Lloyd Blankfein/Goldman Sachs, as well.
The great thing is Greenspan still thinks he is right but he knows he is getting all the blame for this. He knows that he has discredited the ideas of his hero Ayn Rand and His Chicago School of Economics.
Everything Greenspan believes everything he has worked for he has discredited and unless things get better because Helicopter Ben’s ideas work then Greenapan will die knowing he failed.
… thus proving that while the corporations are in charge any week is the wrong week to stop sniffing glue…
The blue of the icewater in the veins which should feed a heart plus the yellow of his craven spine equals the green span.
He has to be Prince John.
Hi, y’all. As usual, watertiger is on fire (is that a mixed metaphor?)
Should we grant Geithner a few points for opposing Greenspan back in the day?
And, if off-topic is the topic at LN – I just gotta say – if you haven’t seen MaddowBlog’s treatment of Va AG Cuccinelli’s “re-design” of the Va official seal. And don’t miss the comments. Perhaps I’m overtired (I am very tired tonight), but I was laughing harder the farther I read.
The quality of the comments there, at least on that thread, is equaled only by the comments here.
No one other than Goldman Sachs could have predicted… that Mr. Andrea Mitchell was wrong. Atlas shrugged.
I’ll bet Greenspan shorted the bank stocks and AIG too.
I have sadly come to the conclusion that the only way to gain the respect of the Villagers(R) is to be monumentally and disastrously wrong about everything (bonus points if you can destroy the lives of thousands of innocent people in the process).
Heh, Prince John, Lord Bankfiend of GoldLand
God, that brings out a nihilist bent in me! The fact that such an outrageous conflict of interest puts that woman in a position to advocate for her husband and not a peep, not a whisper by anyone what an obvious conflict that is.
LMAO! That’s the one!
The beltway driven media left journalistic standards behind a loooong time ago.
There are never conflicts of interest for the villagers as they reside in Versailles on the Potomac, far above the plebeian rabble like us.
Its more fun to be right about everything and heckle from the cheap seats:)
Kudos on the title, WT!
Alan’s course was set back when he was Ayn Rand’s pool boy.
*curtsies*
great. now i have the image of Ayn Rand seducing Alan Greenspan poolside in my head.
[bangs forehead on desk to dislodge]
Au contraire. Lady Andrea is needed to interpret the wisdom of Sir Allan to us commoners.
Poor Greenspan his precious *cough* Efficient Free Market had to be bailed out by the hated Government.
Its not how much you gamble with other people’s money Alan its how much you walk away from the table with.
America gambles Alan and all gamblers lose sooner or later. We need an America that makes stuff instead of gambles.
Alan your genius was a winning streak. Your failure you did not walk away from the table in time.
Time to bring back the guillotine? (Sorry Lurk)
She reads his folds instead of his entrails.
Fellow canines. You will surely want to read William Greider’s ‘Secrets of the Temple’ “How the federal reserve runs the country”. He also wrote ‘Who Will Tell the People’ which discusses the events around the S&L scandal. Truly disturbing exposes of who really runs the country. If the people only knew the truth.
I think it might have been the inspiration for the seduction scene in The Graduate. :-P
Great now I have an image of J Edgar and Ayn Rand seducing Alan….I think I need to go to church for this one.
Yes, that would be bumping up against it.
oo
this is it
Are you trying to make me burn my eyes out of my skull?
I did say sorry… :-)
Tumbrels ho!
That is generally referred to as “DP”
yes, but who got to wear the dress?
Okay, pups, I have to throw in the towel for the evening.
Before I head off to slumberland, I’d like to thank Aunt Toby for filling in for me – my work schedule got totally meshuggeh for a while there!
Careful…I don’t think Lurk wants this conversation to go too far down that road. ;-)
It could have been worse don’t read further if you don’t want to go blind.
A full grown Alan dressed as an Alter boy or a Catholic school girl’s uniform what would J Edgar and Ayn prefer?
A Nun’s Gown or a Pope’s Penis hat and gown which would J Edgar and Ayn choose to wear?
Nighters!
Nite watertiger and thank you so much for the vision of Greenspan and J Edgar Hoover in a dress….
A simple ambiguous one off.
A maiden head too far, methinks.
But who does what to whom?
True, but we can all still sing “La Marsellaise” oui?
Very good question any historians here?
g’nite WT
knitting is innocuous
buenos noches
I hope so. I sing that one every night before I go to sleep.
ermm, yeah
Did someone say nachos?
Knitting might be innocuous, but is a TumbrelHo innocuous? Hmm?
Not to mention buenos nachos.
Lots of people talk about Rand. But Greenspan walks the walk. Which means Alan views himself as a genius/hero who is doing us mud people all a big favor by giving everything we have to rich people because we are to stupid to do that on our own. The guy is pathetic.
I wonder if it will be Alan who gets the Randian paddling tonight; surely the Mrs got a spanking for her references to all the ‘regulation’ other morally uplifted countries like Brazil and Norway have over their extraction industries, requiring as they do the remote-garage-opener type of valve shutoff on their deepwater wellheads.
Heh, I often hum it on the train going to work in the morning!
We’ll always have Paris.
Citizen Water Tiger:
That “paternalistic, condescending fuckwad” represents the some total of creative intelligence of Amerikan financial capitalism…ah the Amerikan dream, wasn’t it a hoot?
“….not with a bang but a whimper.”
Thanks, you saved me from another spanking. I was going to hide behind “gill-o-teen.” ;)
I think it’s the “Ho” that puts it beyond innocuous. A random “tumbrel” is fairly innocuous. Context people!
These days I play “Road to Nowhere” on the way to work….
;>]
I’m sorry, too. Just in case . . . ;)
passing the plate, don’t be bypassing ratfood.
The thing is he knows he failed and has lived to see it. I enjoy watching Greenspan’s followers fail to fix the economy proving Alan even more wrong.
Alan can either break or he can keep lying to himself and discredit his life’s work even more Lose/Lose.
There’s two-bit Hos, crack Hos, and corporate Hos, but everybody picks on the poor tumbrel Hos.
Miss Greenspan spoke well of governments that regulate be still my heart I never thought I’d see that day…..wait are you eating brownie’s with Jane?
Alan Greenspan was hired after the Fed by John Paulson — he of Abacus-picking fame in the Goldman Sachs SEC complaint.
I really shouldn’t… well, maybe just ONE.
Okay, now that’s funny. On that note, I’m off to bed after I sing La Marsellaise of course. Nite pups!
I think maybe you have to lick toads to have visions like that.
Rick, Rick, hide me!!!
Night.
Thats what Miss Greenspan calls them
Nite DrDick thanks for the set up:)
bonus nox noctis
I shtick my neck out for no one!
Still there too. No quitty yet far as I know.
Which is interesting. He’s not deposable as a witness prior to the picking of ABACUS, but he’s deposable as a witness for “procedures and practices” for Paulson’s firm after the fact. Because the ABACUS deal isn’t the only one.
Nite Margaret:)
Oyasumi Nasai kaji Koinu!
Nighty night comrade…
you are soo easy ;)
Translation?
buenos nachos
I learned a new word today. “Tumbrel” That’s why I come here. (Still don’t know where the hos come in. Is it thru the bathroom window?)
Dragging my tired old carcass off to bed. Wish someone would carry me in one of those wagon thingys ;).
Night, all.
A short Spanish lesson:
In Spanish, la noche (the night) is feminine, ergo: Buenas noches. The day is masculine, ergo: el dia. Buenos dias.
Now, now, don’t go starting rumors.
and nachos are mm-mmm good!
Of course not, not after what they were talking about above; never know what might happen if one of those things slips ;).
Nite razor.
Guess I’ll head out too, splendid evening to all.
Que es mas macho? Nachos o enchiladas? LOL!
Well, fuck yeah. After all his spousal unit, the Most Botox’d Anchor Babe, Andrea Mitchell would not invite any unkind Villagers to their cocktail parties or dinners.
Could be a close shave.
Los nachos son muy rico con queso, salsa y jalapenos.
And now it looks as though Senator Bernie Sanders’ “Audit the Fed” amendment may be a done deal as even the Republicans are signing on.
The very thought of the great unwashed getting a peek into the Fed’s books probably has Ben & the Banker Boys’ spincters puckered up so tight you couldn’t drive a straight pin up their arses using a sledghammer.
GO BERNIE! This country needs more Democratic Socialists.
Nachos son mas macho que enchiladas.
good nachos to you, senyour
off I go too – kittehs, et al, insist on an early morning
Tumbrel: I can think of a number of people who could use that form of transportation.
Night night to you both, and tune in tomorrow to find out the meaning of “caltrops” and the gender/definition of this groovy greek word: Σύνταγμα.
No trivia too meaningless is my motto!
Un Ganero!
A ride in a tumbrel was usually a one-way trip. Just sayin’. heh heh
Sorry. Roughly “Good night fire pup(pie)s“. There isn’t a word for “fire” in this context so I improvised with the word for a standard, alpha class fire.
Cool Nite!
O mejor habeneros…
Fantastic Diary, watertiger! You make this site a destination.
Got here really late, but it sounds like a night for Guantanamera.
Or by Pete Seeger.
somewhat on/off topic, one of me older brothers is visiting from chicago..we got in an argument about free trade..I know I was winning (thanks to fdl) because it devolved into a personal attack from him. Then he attacked me physically. so now…f%@ knuckle dragger. :(
Fuck Alan Greenspan and the horse he rode in on (and Summers and Rubin while we are at it). These asshats should be exiled to a distant galaxy after all the damage they did to the economy. Dr dick says it all in no uncertain terms!
Offer him some soon to be legal in CA weed.
Lord Jeebus! Sue the fucker. Or was it a brotherly attack?
oops sorry forgot to “quote it” Thanks again to Dr dick
OT – Breaking News (really, for once) – arrest made in Times Sq. attempted bombing – and, sigh, he appears to be eitehr of Pakistani descent, or naturalized Pakistani.
Cue the anti-Arab freakout.
lol no, Hes a libertarian, I shouldn’t imbibe cause I am a DFH
My first thought, too . . . ;-)
What bugs me the most, is that he is(my brother) going to visit our dads grave. My dad was a progressive!!!
Damn! That sure isn’t the white-guy-shirt-changing video the media was flogging.
Didn’t hear whether the arrestee is the guy in the video.
But honestly, I was rather hoping it would, at least, be a white guy. The hysteria is marginally less that way.
Besides, I’m working for the census, and I can just see potential Arab-descent or -named interviewees feeling even more paranoid about talking to the “government.” (yes, it’s all about me and my troubles! *g*)
I begged him to hit me, he didn’t. I wouldn’t sue any way. not me. But I did remain calm, which I am proud to say I did. He blew a gasket,however.
I was reading about that all day long here and there . . . I’m aghast that it actually sounds like good news, and I don’t really know what to think. I KNOW the pony’s an illusion and Obama is gonna pull that football the minute I step into the kick.
Splat, flat on my back again.
I refuse to hope. Well, a little maybe.
Any pups know whether it’s to be believed, or if the bill is actually still holding any teeth in it?
It’s (and I mean this in a figurative kind of way) always nice to see winger’s heads fly off, instead of ours.
oh please, don’t everyone run away because I’m here posting now. just ignore me I’m used to it.
Jugar y ganar!
(5 years Spanish Radio promotions)
I can understand what you meant, It is kinda funny. Funnier without the personal involvement, which many firedogs can attest, I’m sure.
Easter is ok, but the evening of, and after Thanksgiving – all the reports from pups about Thanksgiving Dinner table battles, as loved-ones descend into furor on a day of love and family – epic. Not to be missed.
My daughter is working for the census too, and I was pleased to let CNN know that I resented their “analyst”, Erick Erickson, telling folks he’d take out a shotgun if a census worker asked him questions.
Alan’s course was set back when he was Ayn Rand’s pool boy.
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lmao, needed that
Oh yeah. My peeps, at least the older side, are all what were known as “rock ribbed Republicans.” They must vomit a little in their mouths whenever I say I’m going to visit a departed’s grave.
So I guess the point is, be yourself. We don’t own venerating the dead/our folks who’ve passed, and really nobody does. Your dad won’t mind a bit.
And the total upside is, you haven’t lost a thing.
It is epic, I’ve been reading the posters here for long enough..now I can really relate. Love all of yins!
10-fucking-4! LOL!
That scared me away from working a a census worker :(
I fight sleep to stay up and read those threads.
I’m not ignoring you, honest! was just picturing the wingnut brother losing his cool and laughing to myself.
Thanks Kelly, I guess Im still stewing
yins! Where in the PA/Ohio area are you?
Times Square Dumbfuck arrested.
IMHO, that alone should have got him fired before his first paycheck was due.
Of course, the idea of any “respectable” medium, let alone “the most trusted name in news”, hiring such an irredeemable, willfully ignorant, evil-intentioned, petty, venal, stupid, vapid, lying a–hole, is
laughablehorrible enough.Stopping before I rant further.
I was observing enumerators on their first attempts so they can be approved to go out on their own. Naturally, most tries resulted in no one answering, but there was one freakout. We apparently woke her up; she opened the door shouting “No! No! No!”, and instantly shutting the door in the enumerator’s face.
Luckily he was a man about my age who’s been around, and he remained calm.
if that’s the worst reaction we get, we’ll be all right.
(One other woman refused, but came by us a little later, and relented, suggesting we return when her kids were in school. She was obviously quite harried at the time we arrived)
Its been 6 years since my dad past, I miss his opinion. I joked GWB killed him (after the Reagan Heart attack) He despised both.
EEErie,PA
He went down swinging for the right team.
(((kenergenx’s pop)))
we’re moving upstairs dude…
I couldn’t agree more about CNN hiring Erickson. My daughter started her first week, which is training, today. Hopefully, nobody here in Issa’s district would be weird.
I’m from near Columbus, I thought you sounded like you were in the PA area maybe.
Its really scary, now after all our manufacturing jobs left, after Thomas Friedman voodoo economics. That’s the boat I’m in. It f#@! sank :(
okay,I’ll go too, After a smoke break.
No doubt the White House will find some way to fuck this up, but at least a few in Congress are starting to fight back against the imperial executive branch.
Some change. We went from a president who was appointed to a president who’s just a disappointment.
What is it with some of these reichwingers and their names?
Erick Erickson…Pete Peterson…
Were their parents just intellectually challenged, or what?
I’m searching for a vehicle that will permit me to invest in tumbrels. I expect to make a killing.