I probably don’t have to tell anyone who reads this site that the past several months have been kind of difficult in terms of snark. Between the too-frequent policy disappointments by the Democrats in power and the steady descent of the right wing into craziness so extreme that it’s not quite so funny anymore, there just hasn’t been enough entertainment value amid the bad news — you know, at least something to make you shake your head and smile at the ridiculousness of it all as the world continues its handbasket-borne downward slide.
And that’s why, if you’ll pardon the irony, I say thank goodness for the Catholic church. The serious issues of its protection of child-abusing priests notwithstanding, at least their unbelievably inept attempts to steer the media away from Pope Ratz‘s role in the scandal have provided some grim amusement.
After cycling through nonsensical excuses such as claiming persecution similar to the Holocaust and blaming homosexuality in general for the crisis within its own ranks, the great mind of the Vatican PR department apparently decided it was time for a shift in tactics — why not, say, align themselves with something positive and generally well-liked, such as motherhood, apple pie, or the Beatles:
At a time when they surely have bigger things to think about, the Vatican’s official newspaper has published a glowing appraisal of the Beatles, calling their music “beautiful” and dismissing their years of drug use and excessive living. On the front page of the L’Osservatore Romano, the paper admits that the band once “said they were bigger than Jesus and put out mysterious messages, that were possibly even Satanic”, but also asks: “what would pop music have been like without the Beatles?”
I know — how generous of them, huh? Good thing they weren’t the last ones on the bandwagon or anything. But as straight lines go, you have to admit this attempt at positive spin is hard to beat. Not only did it create an opportunity for Ringo Starr to appear on CNN to comment on current events, it gave a perfect setup to comedians like Stephen Colbert (“The Vatican has forgiven the Beatles. That explains why the altar boys are singing ‘Help!’”)… and, not least of all, prompted some observers to note the original words of John Lennon that got his band in such trouble with the Church:
Christianity will go. It will vanish and shrink. I needn’t argue about that; I’m right and I’ll be proved right. We’re more popular than Jesus now; I don’t know which will go first, rock ‘n’ roll or Christianity.
I’m sure that wherever he is now, John Lennon is smiling wryly at the Vatican’s inadvertent efforts to make his flippant prediction come true.
But, lest I get too serious, allow me to suggest that there may be a lasting contribution from this passing moment. Just as “hiking the Appalachian trail” became a popular euphemism among news junkies for referring to marital infidelity, perhaps we will find ourselves saying that someone who’s in deep trouble is due to “express their appreciation for the Beatles.”
I mean, they may be kind of awful at this religion thing, but at least you have to admit the Catholic church has some (accidental) comedic ability to fall back on.




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Na na na na na na na, na na na na, hey Zed…
Since I gave up RCism more than a half a century ago in favor of atheism, I have not only felt more comfortable on a daily basis, but have also enjoyed many an hypocrisy on the RC expense. Not to mention Gladiator now playing on tnt.tv.
‘I still love them Beatles, even if that guy Jon Lenin is going to Hell…‘
Seriously, if you are so utterly punked that you end up giving Rickard Starkley some run as collateral, ugh.
They’re getting better at least. It only took them until the next century this time to rehabilitate people they had previously found sinful.
“It is a sin to believe evil of others, but it is seldom a mistake.”
H. L. Mencken
Oh, excellent idea!
As in, “John Ensign announced today his deep appreciation for the music and cultural contributions of the Beatles?”
Evening, Swopa.
*heh* That’s the most creative Zed I’ve seen for a spell…! ;-)
gotta love da Pope’s red kicks….
At this rate it will only be five hundred years or so before we hear the Vatican admit that Monty Python’s Life of Brian is a really funny movie.
Yes, a very, very, very good zed!
I’m probably going to call it an early night. if I can’t go to sleep right away, I may be back. Goodnight (tentatively) :-)
I don’t care what this sick sect thinks about the Beatles. They should be disbanded and the leaders put in jail.
That has GOT to the lamest attempt at distraction I’ve ever heard of.
amazing even “the one true church” is trying to get into the the spin game. I mean, even they see the value. Sad , really…well, maybe not.
Yeah, the hypocrisy can be very entertaining at times.
Is your son into the RC stuff, or merely the right wing stuff? I know it’s none of my business, but you frequently mention your son’s right wing views here, was wondering if they were religious in origin.
If I’m asking a question I shouldn’t, please don’t answer and I apologize.
It was how they planned it! Hopelessly inept PR machine spins comedy gold where once was… Galileo’s crime.
Oh, wait.
Is it at all significant that “RC” is also commonly used to refer to “remote control?”
It is rather amusing to watch the current church leadership struggle with the fact that they are no longer operating in the 10th century (Papa Ratzi’s golden age).
Didn’t Galileo state that the Vatican orbits Liverpool?
I think he said it orbits the inside of the porcelain throne.
Perhaps, since their god is very remote and doesn’t come around much. sure glad I have a different way of looking at the world
Pete Best is PapaRazzi’s favorite longhair.
Oh my god!
His father was Jewish, culturally, not religiously. I’d guess if he identifies with a religion, it would be Judaism. Which I would also guess is not unrelated to his wingnutism. Not sure exactly how, but suspect some sort of persecution fantasy, despite his being raised in an above-average white-middle-class privilidged millieu. Of course, as a single mom, I couldn’t provide him with a chauffeur driven limo to school every day like some of his classmates, so undoubtedly he felt underprivilidiged.
It’s also a second-rate soft drink. Hmmmmm.
Did they have porcelain terlets back then?
Heathen.
*g*
{me too}
Have to laugh every time my sister calls me that.
That’s cuz Pete was a Teddy Boy. PapaRazzi doesn’t know what it means but it sounds enticing.
Howdy, ‘pups.
Bill Maher raised an interesting question tonight. Why hasn’t the Roman Catholic Church been brought to trial under RICO statutes?
OK, that is a beauty.
Certainly one of the greatest modern atrocities was “Christian Rock”. The more extreme Christian fundies tried to co-opt the Hippies by stealing our music, without the sex and drugs of course. The Vatican of course condemned Galileo and it took about 400 years to settle that dispute. So forgiving the Fab Four was fairly quick.
Is there satanic influences in rock besides Ozzie that is. Pink Floyd? Dark Side of the Moon satanic? The Eagles? YES! Good Day In Hell
Yep. Called them “commodes” or “chamber pots.” Only for the rich folks, however, riff-raff either had to go outside or use an old bucket.
I asked the same thing this afternoon in relation to the Goldman Sachs (etal) criminal enterprises. Any takers on that? I realize the current charges are civil, but I have every confidence that if the investigation is vigorously pursued, eventually it’s going to turn criminal.
Hierarchy Complicitus from Mark Fiore! Right on tonight’s topic!
lol, I feel so bad for him, and you.
What kind of mother can’t provide limo rides to school!!!!
lol, it really must be random. My son bitched about all the stuff I couldn’t do for him too, yet today he’s nearing his big 30 b-day and is as progressive as I, or nearly so.
Really is fascinating, particularly considering his mother (and step father after she re-married) are staunch Republicans.
I used to think that the family you grew up in would determine your political leanings 90% of the time. I’m going to have to rethink that, I think. But that’s a good thing, IMO.
Steal $100 dollars and you go to jail, steal $100 million and you get a job in the government. Just more of that too big to jail thingee.
*delurk*
Hey neighbor, hope you’re doing well :-)
*lurk*
Hey, LL. Hope all is going well there in NoVa and the teabaggers aren’t burning everything down playing with matches.
Hey, stick around!
Why indeed. Why have they not been brought to trail under the common decency statutes? How about the atheists’ morality statutes?
Wish I could — work beckons in the early AM. But thank you :-)
Hey DrD, it’s all good in my little corner of NoVa. If there are any ‘baggers in my hood, they’re keeping it quiet ;-)
He went to Columbia Prep jr & sr year HS. One of the fantasies at that school, which is one of the oldest prep schools in the country, is to go to Columbia college afterward, the original 18th C scheme. So there was a 13 yearer with a real hard-on for continuing from C-prep to C-college. My son told me that student’s father built a building at Columbia-U to get his son in (one of the Kalikof’s)Columbia College. I asked him how he knew, and he replied that his classmate had flunked algebra twice. That’s the kind of environment I was wallowing in.
Owe the bank a little,
the bank owns you
Owe the bank a lot
You own the bank!
FWIW: Rock and roll will go first! (Sadly!)
Not just too big to fail.
It’s anything to do with business.
Wear a suit and tie and have a business card, you can do any fucking thing you want to. If all those commercials for reverse mortgages aren’t con jobs, then I’m young and skinny. But if it’s done in the name of business, it’s ok.
And the really fucked up thing is, it’s ok with most plain folks. They’ve been so brainwashed into the capitalist system that they let anything go if it’s done in the name of business.
Con an old woman out of her life’s savings??? YOU BASTARD, CON MAN, YOU SHOULD BE SHOT.
Do so with a fancy name calling it investments and have a nice office and business attire?? Well, that’s just business, too bad grandma lost all her money.
Fucking assholes.
Speaking of stealing, how about Pat Boone?
HEY, HOWDY NEIGHBOR!!!
Doing great as can be!!
Hope you are as well!!!
Sure is great weather here now, huh? Beats the shit out of two or three feet of snow at a time we were getting a couple of months ago, doesn’t it??
Take care and be well!!
No wonder Riff Raff gave Underdog so much trouble.
I think my homeboy Woody says it best.
Get ready to be scared…
The snow is a distant memory now, except for the damage visible at the sides of the roads where the plows went through. And yes, I am digging the weather!
Got to go, g’night all, be well!
*poof*
Long gone already by some accounts. I read an interview with Bob Dylan once in which he made the assertion that the term “Rock ‘n’ Roll” was coined to describe a musical genre that emerged in the 1950s, popular music which came later was significantly different and thus the name should no longer apply. Call it “Rock” but not “Rock ‘n’ Roll.”
Moot point, people will continue to use the name to describe anything and everything.
Who could have guessed. He is a blogger now at WND. And he is funnier than ever.
g’nite LL
I have to say I think that is rather akin to saying Thelonious Monk isn’t really jazz. Music changes and evolves, but often remains within a particular tradition. Modern rock is different from the Sun Records era stuff, but they are in the same tradition.
Bob made the statement 30 years ago. He’s probably changed his mind many times since then.
Jazz has a hundred or more descriptive names for sub-genres. So does Rock. Neither language or music will ever be static.
True. Purists always give me a bowel cramp.
Sounds like you’re standing too close. :-)
Gah! Boone was always a rethug zombie. Not sure if he looks worse now or then. His utterances these days are in the same league as Jon voight. Nazi ratzi can take his love of the beatles & shove it. Sheesh for that CNN brings on ringo to comment? I knew there was a reason why I can’t be bothered with tv.
Wow, what an environment to have to wallow in.
Fascinating to me the different paths folks take yet the good ones always seem to end up at a similar place, IMO the right place.
Sometimes you really wanna just give up (at least I do) but damned it’s fascinating and it does give hope when you see how that works.
Time for me to go night night too. You be well eCAHN, you and yours, and all you good folks at FDL. If you want to find a place full of good folks, you need look no farther than here.
Peace.
Bob would no doubt agree about purists, having gone through hell for making the transition to electric instruments. Gad, when I watch clips of his ’66 tour, the band was dynamite yet everywhere they played they got booed.
The ‘rock’ I am listening to tonight:
Best of The Hollies, side 3 and 4 of the recent reissue of The Last Waltz, Murmur, probably Byrds’ Sweetheart of the Rodeo, and maybe Hunky Dory.
Yeah, define that.
You ain’t seen nothing till you see the teabagger rap. It’s awesomeness will astound.
Rock N Roll will last longer.
Because it’s true to its heart.
Whereas . . .
Thanks for the link. Great song and I am glad it finally made Fats Domino some money.
Does The Last Waltz reissue contain additional material? One of the best concert movies ever.
Cool!
Time for me to toddle off. Take care all.
Niters.
I should head out too. Ciao to y’all.
Now THAT’S some phreakin stellar shit snark.
Grounded in science, too.
*G*
Chirps to Bob!
Where else could this turd bucket go?
Yeah, a bunch of unreleased material including The Weight, and some sparkling sketch tracks.
Might have to add it to my next Amazon order, along with the 30th anniversary reissue of Exile On Main St..
Bob’s been grooving to Van Morrison’s “Veedon Fleece” of late.
That’s interesting…I think the first I heard of them was in The Loneliness of the Long Distance Runner.
Dude’s a recent Pulitzer! Have loved him for ages now, at SF Gate.
*G*
Thanks for posting him!
All the Beatles started as Teddy Boys. One day the others decided to comb their hair forward instead of back… poor Pete had accidentally dropped his comb in the loo. The rest is history.
Oooh, I forgot about the Exile. thanks.
TLW: Look for the 4-CD Robbie Robertson dig. remix/remaster.
Fountain pen! Great camp jam tune, to this day.
Thanks for the tip.
Does Bob like Mystic Eyes? Or is it too raucas?
My bad, should be 40th anniversary reissue.
He hasn’t heard it but he’d like it so long as I dance with him.
We were yakking about it a few Late Late Night’s ago.
Their producer/manager got them to change from the Germany Tours biker jackets and jeans.
You know this.
Includes this recently unearthed track.
I found this interesting slideshow from Villa Nellcote during the time the band was recording Exile in the basement.
Never knew that! The pictures of the early early Beatles remind me so much of the teens in my home town, when I was very little.
“g”
I just can’t recall if it was Brien Epstein!!!
Dead cells, hoss, dead cells here . . . ;-)
That slide show is impossibly good!
You win the internets today.
It was Brian. He didn’t care all that much for the music but admired the cut of their trousers.
Poor Brian, if they hadn’t tuned him out he might have lasted longer and they would all have been better off.
(bows) Happy to be of service.
Splendid evening to all.
It’s a good point, and the Beatles are perhaps more complicit than anyone in that shift, because they so famously moved away from the traditional I-IV-V chord progressions of early “rock and roll.”
Of course, someone would have done it eventually if the Beatles hadn’t. But they did it so incredibly well…
“I think it was the trousers.”
I just went thru that . . . wow.
I don’t know what got me more, Keith with Anita, or his kids, or Keith with Gram Parsons.
Wow. Keith, and Gram Parsons. Wow.
Yep, good call hoss.
Yep, all new to me, and special stuff.
I SOOO live in the freakin past.
The Beatles took every modal chord structure apart in their middle years.
And put it back together in ways that were NOT 1-4-5, as you say.
Then, they got REALLY wierd beyond just modal structuralities with Pepper, Submarine, and Magical Mystery.
What they were, in MY humble opinion, were free thinking and open minded students of music that go bored and went further than anyone else in their times. Heck of a progression if ya follow them from Germany tours thru to their White Album, and Abbey Road.
They reshaped and redifined music, on the radio, pop music, and all the other genre’s.
Hell, they fucked up Surf Music aka Beach Boys ‘Pet Sounds’, although that arguement continues, who came first, Pet Sounds or Pepper.
I’ve known about Gram Parsons and The Stones link for ever, but never saw a pic.
That pic was a frozen in time moment.
I’m still wowed.
From Wiki:
Yep, Gram was on the road to his Grievious Angel. A short life, but great music left behind, like Townes Van Zandt, and so many others.
Still wowing on your slide show linky . . that was sweet, hoss, and thanks for finding and sharing that one.
It’s a bookmarke, for sure.
Grievous Angel.
For those not familiar with Gram Parsons and his works of art.
“All the way the papal boy was on his knee
Man, it was a dreadful sight”
Oh gawd!
better late than never! :~)