Gastric bypass surgery failure and potential 2012 Presidential candidate Mike Huckabee forced himself back into the public consciousness this week, as rational people everywhere facepalmed in exasperation:
Mike Huckabee . . . says the effort to allow gays and lesbians to marry is comparable to legalizing incest, polygamy and drug use.
Huckabee also told college journalists last week that gay couples should not be permitted to adopt. “Children are not puppies,” he said.
Um, puppies, Huck? You really sure you want to go there?
Huckabee told the interviewer that not every group’s interests deserve to be accommodated, if their lifestyle is outside of what he called “the ideal.”
“That would be like saying, well there’s there are a lot of people who like to use drugs so let’s go ahead and accommodate those who want to use drugs. There are some people who believe in incest, so we should accommodate them. There are people who believe in polygamy, should we accommodate them?”
There you have it. According to the self-anointed paragon of family values, gay couples who want nothing more than the same rights granted to their heterosexual compatriots are no better than drug addicts, Austria’s own Grampa Daddy, Josef Fritzl, and Warren Jeffs, husband-in-residence at Utah State Prison. How very New Testament of him.
So who does pass muster (no, Huck, I didn’t say “pass the custard”) in the good pastor’s estimation? Hey, maybe fellow religious zealot Mel Gibson? Hmmm, maybe not. Or there’s popular ex-Giant and television personality Tiki Barber! Er…okay, how about that wholesome Tennessee family who adopted 7 year-old Artyem Savelyev? No?
Mr. Huckabee and his cohort of hypocrites could take a lesson in tolerance from The Hearty Boys, a happily monogamous, successful . . . and gay, by the way . . . couple who also happen to have a television show on The Food Network. Below is their open letter inviting the Scion of Sanctimony to their home to see just how fucking wrong he is about . . . well, just about everything:
Mr Huckabee,
You may know me from Food Network. My partner, Dan Smith, and I are The Hearty Boys. We’re Chicago caterers, restaurateurs, cookbook authors and most importantly, dads. Dan and I have been in a stable, monogomous [sic], loving, positive, nurturing and healthy realationship for 13 years. We were blessed to adopt our son, Nate, at his birth 4 1/2 years ago.
Sir, your comments likening my parenting my son to adopting a pet are beyond hurtful and dangerous. My love, passion and commitment to Nate is not one iota different than what you have for John Mark, David and Sarah. Our son is loved and cared for just as much. He feels just as loved and cared for. He is a happy, well adjusted little guy whom I fiercely love.
Mr Huckabee, I invite you to spend the evening with us at our home in Chicago next time you come through. You need to understand and see firsthand what a family like ours is like. We are no less a family than yours, and in fact, we are healthier and more stable than most.
Americans are no longer going to sit silent as our families are attacked. And even though I find your comments reprehensible and irresponsible, I will open my home to you and pray that we might help you better understand the damage you could inflict.
Steve McDonagh
While I applaud Messrs. McDonagh and Smith for their valiant attempt to enlighten the perennially ignorant, I suspect Huckabee would rather grant pardons to cop killers than RSVP to a catered dinner party thrown by two gay men. If he accepted, he might find that he’d have to eat his own poisonous words, after all.



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What a brilliant letter to someone who can never appreciate it.
No Huckabee where is the harm to the individual or society if two consenting adults marry? Incest there is genetic damage to kids consider.
Polygamy well I would certainly not want to split time and share a Woman why would I expect them to like it the damage to society is divorce nobody if they have a choice likes playing second.
maybe the puppies comment by huckabee was him trying to dredge up the mitt romney doggie on the roof mess instead of dredging up his son’s problems
Watertiger!
Everybody knows that cop killers are good, wholesome, upright Americans, unlike them gays and lesbians.
I am not sure that he can even read it.
Actually, incest does not lead to genetic defects, it just makes it more likely that, if such defects are present in the family’s gene pool, they will be expressed (most such conditions are caused by recessive genes, so you have to inherit two copies to suffer the affliction). That does not mean that I support incest, just that there is no biological reason to prohibit it.
Well…no shit, Sherlock. You have an amazing grasp of the fucking obvious. Along with an amazing failure to grasp anything else…but wait a minute-you know who you’re appealing to, don’t you? You speak their language. You’re trying to build a movement of drooling throwbacks who are willing to pull triggers. Huck, maybe you’re a genius.
I assume Huckabee is talking about the Bible as justification for law not the Principle of Harm. The same Bible that says Slaves should be obedient to their Masters?
Why are we trusting Huckabee’s views on the law he pardoned that nut because he told Huckabee he found Jesus.
Then the nut killed a bunch of cops.
The less Huckabee says about the law the better it is for the GOP.
its not about the risk — its about the insult. huck was looking for groups he could use to demean
I wish to God someone with a camera would catch Huckabee sucking off Steve King so we could be finally rid of both these assholes.
Thanks for the information.
Actually, the Bible sanctions incest under the proper conditions.
Brrrrrr!
Oh, pups, cut hims some slack! He is just parroting a fourteenth century cleric, who was parroting second century Greek thought. And, of course he has no clue as to the heritage of what he is saying. Seems to me, the greatest threat to freedom is simple ignorance.
Aloha, Water Tiger…!
Kudos to the crew at The Perspective for publishing and then pushing back the Huckster’s blowback…! ;-)
Huckabee has been taking lessons in name-calling from Rick Santorum.
True. As I recall, for example, one has to be drunk.
cut him some slack? do ya think the dood who is trying to be president can’t handle snark?
Steve and Dan are better men than I. Mike “puppies” Huckabee is unwelcome in my home, under any circumstances, at any time, for any reason, ever. Janet too, for that matter.
And in a cave with both your daughters.
Ah, yes, Sanctimonious Santorum. Another one for my Just Shut the Fuck Up Forever list.
I don’t even want him in my state, not that I can prevent that.
cHuckabee is an idiot and a bigoted asshole. What else needs to be said?
Oh snap…! ;-)
This is the same appearance Huck charged $25,000 for and then tried to wiggle out of his words, only to discover the cub reporter had the whole thing on tape, right?
Goes without saying.
The Ammonites and the Moabites were the product of incest. Without which, no David, no house of David from which the Messiah could be born.
More importantly, what incest does is increase homogeneity of traits, both good and bad. What happened to those kids with the double loading of bad traits; and those with good traits?
I thought my sarcasm was pretty evident.
yup — the one where the student reporter released the unedited tape and transcript that showed the comment was not taken outta context etc
*heh* For 25,000 smackeroos I’d utter such flatulence…! Where do I sign up…? ;-)
Quite possibly your funniest opening phrase … Watertiger !
Settle down, buddy … Palin, Bachman & Huck are contributin’ enough to global warming …
oh double crap — i just realized that i forgot to tell ya’ll that the aqua kitty is in transit tonight and ya’ll are stuck with me standing in for her…
my apologies
Suzzzz !!!
petro!
Hell, for 25 G’s I could be persuaded to agree with Mike Huckabee, provided I was allowed to cross my fingers in plain sight while I did it.
Well, I for one am going to demand my money back! 8-P
Jeebus, the spew is overpowering.
Ah, yes, the Rancid Maddow Show.
Perhaps Dan & Steve can sweeten the deal … offer the Huckster a Doggie Bag …
Hell, I’m cheap, dood…! I don’t need that stipulation…! ;-)
That was Snark…damm I was hoping it was God’s judgment.
Crap indeed…! ;-)
Whatever shall we do…?
Petro, How’s the Great White North…? *g*
Toronto felt like 75-80 this afternoon but going down to frizzin’ overnight, on the weekend.
Oh and the Sens & Habs won their first games agin the Penguins & Ovechkins, so life’s pretty good.*g*
Think I will toddle off. Take care all.
*heh* The only good hockey news I’ve seen of late was the Oilers getting the first pick in next year’s draft…! ;-)
g’nite dr dick
G’nite Sir !
Yep and teh Stoopid Leafs gave their pick to the Bruins for Kessel. Boston got the 2nd overall pick.
Any Sydney Crosby’s out there…? *g*
There is Hockey on here tonight.
LA @ Vancouver.
I am in heaven and could not care less what you fools are talking about.
Oh, what?
Wassup wid da Sharks ?!!
There are some good prospects, but no Crosbys or Ovechkins this year.
Go, Canucks…! ;-)
that would be tomorrow
tonight is kingosauruses @ canuckocrats
Go, Columbus Blue Jackets!
demonizing Republican idiots will not be enough to get folks to vote (D) in 2010 and 2012, sorry.
I know you’ll keep trying, though.
But it is the same trick Dubya used by demonizing Saddam Hussein, then trying to trap war and invasion critics with “so would you rather Saddam was still in charge?”
Bush’s war was stupid, Obama is continuing all the major policies, voting (D) no matter what is stupid, even if
Saddam HusseinMike Huckabee is a scary scary badman.*heh* My local TV news station just reported on Hawaii’s “Tea Party” at the State Capitol, as they panned across the woeful lot(maybe 200) on the front lawn, I thought back to my night sleeping on that same lawn, and the crowds we’d had protesting student tuition increases, as a student body senator back in the early ’90s…! ;-)
Wow, kudo’s sporkovat. In the pursuit to re-contextualize posts to give you the traction required to deliver one of your signature “D” bombs, you have topped yourself.
O-ver-time!
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But given that there are scores of genetic lethals and deleterious recessives in any individual, and brother-sister or parent-offspring mating increases the probability of homozygosity to an almost certainty for some of those alleles in that sense inbreeding does “cause” genetic defects.
Many of those that carry homozygous recessives will be spontaneously aborted and miscarried, resulting in apparent sterilty in many cases where the zygotes are expelled at or soon after conception. But if development proceeds it can result in birth defects. The risk drops in first cousin marriages, and unless the source population is already very homozygous usually it won’t result in much increased risk. But close incest can and des pose a very real risk.
“Whole LOT Of Love?”
Homozygosity…and while it does have the chance of increasing beneficial traits if the combinations occur in the same individual the “good traits” will likely never be expressed. And sometimes it’s most beneficial to be heterozygous simply because you have alleles or combinations that can operate in a variety of environments (e.g. in the foetal environment, and later in the adult or teenage years; or in warmer and cooler conditions).
Did you not tell me once that your family gave a ceramic piece to Winterthur? I’ve been thinking about it for a long time.
You got me watching FSNW now, dood…!
Huckabee is as much as outting himself as the flaming queen he truly is through these telling utterances and unsolicited pronouncements of his.
poor tuttle :-(
Indeed without these out-marriagesby the Israelites no Jesus. There’s even a more interesting case…which is the Canaanite Tamar, who was the bride or Judah’s son Er (who died because he was “evil in the eyes of the Lord”), and then by levirite marriage to his brother, Onan. Onan, of course refused to have progeny with the Canaanite and God smote HIM down as well. And then Tamar insisted that Judah’s third son, the adolescent Shelah, be betrothed to her.
Maybe because Tamar was really bad luck, Judah put off the wedding, and eventually married Shelah off to another family. Tamar was upset, and contrived a plan in which she “acted the prostitute” to seduce Judah into having sex with her. She veiled herself and posed as a temple prostitute and when Judah passed by on his way to make a sacrifice he decided to have a little R&R. He had sex with Tamar, not recognizing his daughter-in-law…and also tried to scofflaw her by not paying. “I don’t have any money, I’ll pay you later”. “I’m old to that trick Sir, give me your WALKING staff and your signet ring, and come back and pay me.”
A few months later Tamar was showing with twins…and Judah’s men brought her before him to be burned as a “whore”. Judah was about to pronounce sentence when she pulls out the ring and staff. Ooops! Caught out! Who’s your Daddy, Perez? It’s the Lion of Judah.
Of course Perez eventually resulted in David, and Solomon…and so on down to Jesus.
Which is why I suspect that Jesus was pretty soft on women who “sinned”. Someone who was descended from the incest of Lot and his daughters, and Tamar “playing the whore”, Judah, David and a whole host of others that crossed the line…probably had a view of being “born in sin” that differed from the average person. And he probably knew that Mary was more like Tamar and her “magical babies” than a virgin.
Hello all, I’m the college reporter who broke this story — I would like to help in whatever way possible!
hey mtracey — hi and welcome to firedoglake. i’ll make sure watertiger knows about your offer — thank you
Very glad to have you in!
Indeed I did.
A piece of creamware.
Good to hear from you again.
Nice work, man. You might have just built yourself a future, you know.
Hey, great work! And thanks for standing up to that punk Huckabee when he decided to push back against YOU and not the facts of your story. Very well played, sir.
And, don’t forget, the Bible is replete with stories of polygamous marriages, or at least recognized concubines. Father Abraham for one. And I am unaware of any denunciation of polygamy in the Old Testament or the New. Bible scholars please advise.
Moreover, the USA has a great deal of official intercourse with Saudi Arabia, most, if not all, of whose ranking Princes and Kings have had multiple wives. And they come here, with or without official immunity, and as far as I know, no one in official Washington or the Village has ever publicly suffered the vapors on account of their polygamy.
Who Let The Dogs Out?
I haven’t seen anyone bring up Huckabee’s other ridiculous implication, which is that people who use “drugs” (I guess he doesn’t include nicotine, alcohol, or the prescription drugs that killed Heath, Anna Nicole, Marilyn, Elvis and Jacko) are engaging in something inherently unsavory and immoral, and that a truly virtuous society would sneer at and marginalize them as it should homosexuals or pedophiles… not to mention his further conflation of the set of all responsible drug users with the tiny minority who become addicts, menaces or parasites.
Someone should press him on whether he favors the re-instatement of Prohibition against alcohol. I’m sure many Republicans would love to know where he draws the line.