Conservatism in America, you see, can only be failed. It is so robust, so natural, so flowing-from-our-Creator — that it can never fail. But its practitioners, those who pretend to be conservatives, those who co-opt it for their own ends?
They fail conservatism, and America is so bereft for that failure. Because then, sometimes, Americans think the unthinkable: that conservatism has failed. Which, of course, is unpossible. So — the hunt is on! What faux-conservatives can be identified now? What pretenders have absconded with the conservative mantle?
What usurpers have failed conservatism this time?
Craig Shirley and Donald Devine, longtime conservative operatives and Reagan hagiographers (hereinafter referred to as Shirley Devine, a name John Waters will surely co-opt soon) have identified the most recent failers-of-conservatism, on Fred Hiatt’s funny pages today. You might be surprised to know who they are.
Karl Rove. And his boss, George W Bush.
That’s right — the architect of the eight disastrous years of the Bush presidency “is no conservative.” And neither is his boss. Shirley Devine count off Karl Rove’s four pillars of the Bush presidency, and expose them as rank betrayals of the modern American conservatism of Buckley, Goldwater and Reagan.
Middle-class tax cuts? JFK did that, so it’s not rooted in pure conservatism.
Faith-based initiatives? Just leveling the playing field for access to the ever-expanding federal trough, and started by Jimmy Carter. Hardly conservative at all.
Education? No Child Left Behind trampled states’ rights. Good goal, badly executed.
Entitlements? A $9.4 trillion unfunded Medicare prescription drug benefit, the largest federal liability since LBJ. Oh, and a big F for not privatizing Social Security.
Then, Shirley Devine proceed to pick apart further betrayals of conservatism that were central to the Bush Administration (even though we didn’t hear much about how bad they were from conservatives at the time):
And we all remember steel tariffs, the creation of the Department of Homeland Security, the McCain-Feingold campaign finance law, a massive agricultural subsidy bill, and other spending and regulatory moves by the Bush administration that tilted power toward Washington and away from individuals and states.
So, America, do you think conservatism has failed because of the failures of Karl Rove and George W Bush? Well, you’re wrong — it hasn’t. In fact, the failures you ascribe to Karl Rove and the Bush Adminstration aren’t due to conservatism at all. Those failures are, in fact, simply due to one simple fact about Rove’s and Bush’s brand of conservatism (that no conservatives bothered to point out to us at the time):
It is not modern conservatism, not the brand that today is finding voice in the “tea party” movement, and certainly not the populist conservatism that found electoral success beginning in the late 1970s.
See, Rove and Bush were an aberration. Buckley, Goldwater, and Reagan are populist; they are finding their voice again in the “tea party” movement (love those scare quotes, Shirley Devine! As if we don’t know what the “tea party” is: a GOP-aligned, DC-controlled, lobbyist-staffed exploit-the-rubes project, centrally managed and corporately funded).
Anyway.
So, citizens! When modern conservative GOP candidates knock at your door to ask for your vote this November and again in November 2012, remember this message from Shirley Devine: American discomfort with and alienation from the failures of Karl Rove’s plan for the Bush Administration to usher in a Permanent Republican Majority? Those are NOT objections to conservatism.
Rove and Bush are not conservatives.
You should, in fact, probably vote for the conservative this fall. Because conservatism hasn’t yet been tried in the 21st century! America ought to take it out for spin — real, modern American conservatism, populist conservatism, not that phony compassionate, big-government, Nixon/Ford/Rove/GWB conservatism.
What America needs, right now, really and truly, is real conservativism, not the failures of those who preached conservatism but failed it. (And if you’d like to copy that down from an AEI conference abstract and write it up like Shirley Devine did, Fred Hiatt can easily find you prime WaPo OpEd real estate to make your case).
Conservatism: it never fails. It can only be failed. And Karl Rove and George Bush, tossed in the GOP memory hole by Shirley Devine, are conservativism’s latest betrayers.
Never thought you’d see the day, did you?



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Never thought you’d see the day, did you?
Only as soon as it became clear that Bush’s policies were a monstrous failure. You know, since January 2001.
Hey Doc!
Conservatism always fails because conservatives are, John Stuart mill to the contrary, all very stupid people.
Great post, Teddy. I am increasingly annoyed by the casual use of the term “conservative.” While there are undoubtedly some conservative principles being practiced out there in the hinterlands these days, one would have to send out a search party to find them. What I see coming out of the Republican party (and increasingly from the Democratic party, for that matter) is rhetoric and behavior that I would characterize as something other than conservative in the classical sense of that term. What to call it? I dunno. However,
Suffice to say that Eisenhower and Goldwater (etal) are turning over in their graves.
What am I missing here?
Failed conservatism. A redundancy, no?
They started repudiating him about half way through his second term.
You know what I would like to see? A group of people who would be anti-conserative think tankers. People who would go on the shows and point out again and again the failure of conserative thought and when they start distancing themselves from Bush or Rove say, “Really?Really? That is you gambit? The “Bush isn’t really conserative? What a pathetic line. Own your failure. Oh and by the way who pays you? Koch? Scaife? Moon?
“
Hey Teddy. Happy vernal fertility festival.
Goldwater, whose lineal descendants the modern conservative movement are, is roundly cheering them on from his ringside seat in hell.
It’s a pair-a-docs!
About as quickly as it became clear to the most abjectly stupid ideologues that his wars were huge flops and that he wasn’t going to get Social Security privatized (never mind that the latter was an enormously unpopular proposal–the great majority of Americans failed conservatism on that one).
punaise is bereft of purpose.
The incredible allure of the gravy train that is the federal largesse. No party can withstand it. But yes, I can just imagine Ike’s reaction to the oxymoron “big-government conservative” which you hear a lot in DeeCee nowadays.
Ignoring the fact that things actually DO change renders Conservatism a tautology, which is exactly the reason why holding Conservatism as a belief system means you have to be nuts to believe it.
Consistency or facts are not required! A feature – not a bug.
Conservatism is what the pigs oink while standing with their forefeet in the trough.
This doc is delighted to be back online. I moved and have been incommunicado since Thursday. I was starting to go through withdrawals. that is what happens when you getting cable, phone, and internet through the cable company.
First point: The failure of conservatism is in direct proportion to loss of power and votes. In other words, the Teahadists have blind fealty and defend absolutely any and every policy put forward when republicans are in control. The quisling only begins when they fail to win elections.
Second point: Why should Shirley, one with not man parts, be placed in a forward position of the Donald? I suggest the Devine Squirrely moniker to be used henceforth.
How would you ever get such people booked on cable gasbag chattershops? There are plenty of people ready and willing to say those things, but they aren’t permitted on cablefests.
Conservatism always simply seeks to give moral cover to selfishness.
If only there was some way to know the true nature of conservatism, other than after the failure of whatever monster is hiding under its sheepskin.
Kelly, facts are anathema to conservatism. Their faith-based Chicago School of Economic Trickledown is proof of that. You can still find teevee commentators whose ticket onto an appearance is their statement that “reducing taxes boosts federal revenues” which is a patently false and disproven assertion.
Is it true that Goldwater was not too keen on government intrusion into people’s private lives? It’s probably the decades that have softened my view of him, but somehow he seems almost tame compared to the psychopaths operating the controls these days. Admittedly, I’m probably all jacked up on this point.
No argument from me!
Fact-free also bolsters “shame-free” which they are very, very good at. Isn’t that why Vitter, Ensign, Sanford et. al are still in office?
This anti-Bush/Rove conservatism sounds pretty damned Rovian.
Rove/Dubya sold Compassionate Conservatism (tax cuts for the rich, deregulation, trickle down voodoo economics, union crushing, corporations and the MIC run amok, war). Reagan’s “Morning In America” brand had fostered the same policies/actions and results – deficits and a shrunken middle class.
Conservatism always needs a new hook to make buyers forget the old disasters.
2010/2012 Conservatism will be the same old GOP hiding under a Tea Party wrapper. Idaho Tea Bagger President calls Jim Demint a hero while Sarah Palin and Glen Beck are inspirational.
It is part of the unfailing nature of conservatism that it can only be defined by its absence. Like common sense, or Ann Coulter’s good taste.
Gotta bail out. Insane o’clock in the morning is…well…insane o’clock in the morning, more’s the pity.
Nite, FirePups.
Isn’t that what I just said? I’m just waiting for your average conservative to realize that they are just screwing themselves. Holding ones breath seems contraindicated though.
Sleep well.
I am not sure about that point, nor do I know what he actually would have done had he gained power. I do know that Chaney, Rumsfield, and the rest of the PNAC/modern conservatism crowd all got their start in politics working on hi campaign and that they have pressed for his policies. Goldwater was as batshit crazy as the rest.
Teddy, Nice Read.
The world is upside down. And who knows, it might not be long before someone could write a similar review of the fellows and ladies claiming to liberals.
Good to see you’re back.
It is like a snake, it will always discard the most recent outer skin in order to fool the people again, with a new visage and a new carnival barker.
Teddy Asks: Who’s Gonna Fill Their Shoes?
There once was a Mayor of Wasilla
Who ruled to the right of Atilla
As Governor a quitter
She stormed onto twitter
The branded conservative Broadzilla!
I just had a vision of Sarah Palin’s smiling face rising over the eastern hills. Time to bite down on that special tooth…
Right, I think I owe you a drink (although you may have had a few already).
Very glad to have you back. How’s the new place?
At least it wasn’t concerning a man from Nantucket
Only in 2010 could you have, for example in Ohio, W’s Budget Director (Rob Portman) running for the US Senate as an outsider. It’s absurd on its face; in any other political culture, having that on your resume would disqualify you from office forever.
Hillary was a ‘Goldwater Girl’ (just a side note)
Goldwater was socially moderate, fiscally conservative. He publicly opposed DADT (to the absolute dismay and horror of many) and that may have been caused due to family situations, a grandson is gay.
But when you read his autobiography (written in 1988), it details his belief that government needed to stay out of peoples private lives.
I dislike those that attempt to discredit an individual out of hand with one or two words that demonize or characterize one as crazy. Something he was not.
Much of the disdain felt towards Goldwater could be attributable to horrific TV ads that were run by LBJ (written and produced by Bill Moyers) that simply terrified people. First of the scored earth political campaigns.
Had JFK not been assassinated, there was talk and early plans that JFK and Goldwater would fly together around the country debating. They did not have the rancor that is so typical of today’s campaign.
Probably Too Much Info. If so, sorry.
So far, I really like it. Have not gotten completely settled in as yet (just put up the pictures today), but I think it is going to be great.
Or the young lady from Venus.
Like the driver that hated delivering to a particular dock, because they would never unload him and just point to a forklift that he could run and unload himself, instead of getting much needed sack time. He fired it up, aimed it at an empty dock door, gunned it and bailed. The forklift sailed right out the door and with a tremendous crash, found its destruction in the pavement below. all the supervisors ran out demanding to know what happened. He admitted to doing it and reassured them that he was certain he knew what he had done wrong, and if they would kindly supply him with another forklift, he was confident he could do better next time.
They no longer allow truck drivers to unload themselves at that particular dock, and this is why teahadists do not run docks.
Goldwater’s tutelage was where Rehnquist learned to jam up black voters at the polls, and where Sandy Day O’Connor began in politics. He is responsible for a lot of what’s wrong in our political discourse; John Dean was pressed into public service after rooming with Barry’s son in college.
I wasn’t aware of that. Gave me a Good Hearty Laugh.
Thanks again Teddy !
Damn. My repudiation predates me, or something.
You left out the overtly imperial militaristic foreign policy. I am old enough to remember Goldwater and he was in fact batshit crazy.
Dubya had a budget director? Who knew?
Oh, no — it is exactly the opposite of Rove. In fact, Rove is one of conservatism’s greatest failures. Remember, conservatism can’t ever fail. Just its imperfect vessels, usually the most recent occupant of the WH who adhered to its principles perfectly upon his election.
Remember how Gingrich et al disavowed the 1992 GOP, with its Buchanan hatred and Quayle anti-intellectualism?
These guys can turn on a dime, but watch the dime if it’s yours. They’ll steal it!
Yep.
A wise blogger that I admire once said show me someone who a was socially moderate, fiscally conservative and I’ll show you a liberal who doesn’t want to pay for the services he receives.
Another Good Hearty Laugh.
Thanks OilFieldGuy !
And that certainly does not describe Goldwater, other than the not wanting to pay for it part.
Yes, I’ve heard that also. I’m not Goldwater’s apologist. I just enjoy political autobiographies, from all types.
Goldwater’s deal was that he didn’t think the government had any business dealing in your private life, so you could not call him socially liberal. But his brand of conservatism didn’t deal with morality, that didn’t happen really until Reagan put together his coalition (moral majority).
Wait until they realize that Sarah is backing Gluehorse McClydesdale against teabagger anti-immigrationist JD Notworthadamn. It’ll make many of them check their vision of her against the new reality — and something will click.
Like the 9 anti-gummint patriots who planned on killing a cop and throwing home made hand grenades at the funeral. They all requested public defenders. Where is the demand from the right to Gitmo their asses and give them drumhead trials?
evening, firegods
*crickets*
I do not define someone of that era as socially moderate if he opposed the civil rights bills, which many GOPs of that time supported. Late in life, he came to be understanding of LGBT people and opposed DADT, probably (like Cheney) due to a personal relationship with someone affected.
But he would bristle at your characterization of him as a social moderate, especially during his political career. He was not.
I was going to avoid controversy tonight, but really don’t want to let this one go.
It wasn’t Goldwater nor his party that took us into Vietnam nor the bullshit escalation that followed.
Depth perception is lost when you only look with one eye. Palin is popular amongst the teahadists due to the tunnelvision of the cyclopsian variety. You cannot define teabaggery with logic or you shall be frustrated. The Senatorfold is popular with them yet he is pro-choice. Square peg, meet round hole.
No, but it was Goldwater on my TV calling on the government to “bomb them back to the stone age.” As I say, I remember Goldwater quite well, as someone who was drafted in 1971. He was Dick Chaney’s political godfather.
They are white Christians. People like that don’t go to Gitmo.
But you knew that.
Yep – That’s correct.
My lottery number: # 7
It’s a great limerick.
One of the vastly underrated forms.
BUt maybe for their own safety, They Could ?
It was Eisenhauer that started the ball roling, after Dien Bien Phu. And the relentless pressure from the right that made it impossible to let go the tiger’s tail. Remember Luce at “Time” blaming Teddy White and the left for “losing China”?
Except Cheney being the hapless chicken shit SOB that he is, used deferments, several to avoid serving.
Goldwater attained a rank (as a flying officer in the ANG) of a 1 star.
Goldwater, at the end of his life, was horrified at the intrusion of the preachers and their flock into the GOP. He thought the televangelists would be the end of the party.
He was a descendant of Jewish shopkeepers and never talked about his faith much. I wouldn’t be surprised if he was an unbeliever, although that was never talked about in polite company in his era.
Mine was 3.
One of the problems of today’s conservatism is that it has defined morality down until it has a distinctly old testament flavor. The outcome of that results in things like Victorian England, our own Guilded Age and the modern corporation.
#23 here. One year too young, fortunately
Yes, and the one eye they see her through is neither of the ones in the head atop their shoulders.
I just went into the kitchen and told Ron that one. LOL!
No question that he would have been opposed to the unholy alliance with the religious fanatics, as would most conservatives of his time. Nonetheless this widespread attempted rehabilitation of a very dangerous man disturbs me greatly.
I have never understood the US’s compulsion to rescue the French. Maybe we like unfired rifles, don’t know.
What is really frustrating is if you read Ho’s memoirs, one of his prized possessions was a Colt M1911-A1 provided to him by FDR (or Truman, can’t remember now). OSS worked extensively with him during WWII against the Japanese. Kind of sounds sort of familiar with Afghanistan …
THen we decided to hose him, in exchange for some kind of deal with the chinese.
That has always been the conservative definition of morality. What you view as a hellish aberration is their paradise.
Patrick chortled from the other room too!
Our men, so easy to please with political cartoons….
Which nicely brings us back around to the point of the post:
Conservatism of yore failed without the religio-whack wing,
Conservatism of today fails with it.
FAIL!
Texas state board of education.
But Dewey Wins !!!
Who was the last responsible, successful conservative President?
Rehabilitation is all conservatives have, if they want their relics remembered in any way close to fondly. The Reagan Legacy Project, Norquist’s effort to get a school or (maybe AND?) a road in every county named for St Ronnie, was started particularly because historians, in the 1990s, were started to reassess Reagan’s contribution.
The Great Man Theory requires lots of lesser men following afterwards, tidying and sweeping and polishing.
It has consistently failed throughout its history as it always seeks to amass all power, wealth, and privilege for the few, while allocating misery for the many.
I really wish that it was limited to them, but you see it among far too many people who really should know better.
“Extremism in the defense of liberty is no… Oh, look – Sarah got highlights!”
Evening, Mr. Teddy. Fine piece.
An even more horrendous rehabilitation of the second or third worst president in US history (I vacillate between him and Nixon on #2).
Or as Lewis Black would say-Their own personal ball washers.
Here’s my Reagan story
I decided to use my GI Bill for school about eight years after discharge under what was called the Vietnam Vet’s Outreach Program.
It was clear I wouldn’t graduate within the 10 years from date of discharge but was assured I’d be OK since that was the reason for the program, I was granted an exception to the 10 year rule.
My senior year, second quarter, receive a letter from the VA. My benefits had been cut.
Called the VA and asked for the Vietnam Vet’s Outreach Program. “Sorry, Sir. The President Shut Down The Program. It No Longer Exists”
Thanks Ron
So true. The Villagers should really be called the Idiot Janitors. It’s what they do; sweep away the truth and polish their prized turds.
Sorta like the character from Rocky and Bullwinkle. Sweeping up after the chariots and elephants came through.
Heya Newt
Eisenhower, imo…check out this quote:
“The political processes of our country are such that if a rule of reason is not applied in this effort, we will lose everything–even to a possible and drastic change in the Constitution. This is what I mean by my constant insistence upon “moderation” in government. Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes you can do these things. Among them are H. L. Hunt (you possibly know his background), a few other Texas oil millionaires, and an occasional politician or business man from other areas. Their number is negligible and they are stupid.”
Evening, all-
Turd polishers
Wow. great quote.
Time for me to toddle off. I have to go back to work tomorrow and corrupt all those young minds. Hopefully, I will be able to get to sleep at a more reasonable hour despite the pain. (Growing old is not for the weak. Moving your own stuff at almost 60 suck toad turds. I hurt all over and have cuts all over my hands.)
It is Ike, of course, from whom we get the phrase “military-industrial complex” but few know that the phrase in his farewell address was originally “military-industrial-Congressional complex” which much more aptly states the problem as he saw it then: corporations locating construction facilities across the country in CDs of powerful chairman who could affect appropriations.
Hi Mary!
Hi RonD!
good night, Dr. Dick.
Damn. I did not know that. Kind of like Jefferson’s “life, liberty, and property” having “property” cut and replaced with “the pursuit of happiness.”
I just drove from Fremont to SF! I’m back.
Answers! I have answers! Subscribe to my newsletter!
But seriously. I could figure it out. Part of the deal is to go where they are not protected. For example their book signings. Bring great questions, experts and video cameras. Then send those videos to the producers of the gas bag shows.
Just one of my many techniques. Sadly no wants to pay for those.
America turns it’s lonely eyes to you George Soros!
Call me, I’m available!
And then we occasionally elect a Dem …. and one can’t seem to govern (I have much to really understand about Carter) and one can’t keep his zipper zipped (I still blame Clinton’s doggishness for letting Bush in the door) and now we’ve got ourselves what we hoped would be a semi-progressive who has turned out to be loser-man. Is there NO progressive/libral worth his salt?
Dearie,
There are NO progressive/liberals in or around our government. One of us would have to run. (Not mentioning anyone in particular)
*janehamsherforpresident*
There you go!
*besidesSenatorMcCurnin*
There hasn’t been since Wellstone, imo.
ES has LLN on tap…!
Senator McCurnin, I will be honored to think up outrageous lies about your opponent that he/she would then have to deny in public.
And the mad stampede upstairs ensues…
Goodnight,all. The best of all possible tomorrows to you all.
“Forgive them Poppy, they know not what they…What they…Ya can’t get fooled agin!”
;>)
You should make your availability known to the Rachel Maddow bookers. You’d be a perfect guest when she talks about the radio hate speech as a coordinated campaign by the corps to reduce the intellectual level of Americans. Not that she talks about that a lot, but with her focus on the hate-speakers in the runup to Veigh Day (4/19) you might find a receptive ear, given your activism against the bay area hate-speakers.
What a spectacular contribution, as we come to the end of Hole-y Weekend.
applause!!!!!
Leo Strauss was the leader, long, long ago. And before him?
A hand full of corporate capitalists from the 20′s, who had Commie and Nazi linky’s. Yes, both.
They are always saying CUT TAXES that will create Jobs. Well Bush cut taxes and look at how many jobs he lost. It always gets me that when one of these REPUK’s say this on TV no one points the job loss out.