YooTube !

But the waterboarding was only for bushy and dick to masturbate to so timelines don’t mean squat.

Cheney checked himself into George Washington University Hospital yesterday.

… I formally ask that they be declassified now.”

I formally ask that you get in the back seat, and that you understand that you have the right to remain silent, and that anything you do say, can and will be used against you, …

Mornin’, BT, pups

We hit the 1,000 KIA mark in Afghanistan yesterday evening. How many more?

Loved the comment from the chap at the Guardian blog. It speaks volumes.

His administration was asleep on the job and allowed the worst terrorist attack in US history to happen under their noses.

Pee Wee Herman could have shown them how to do it with much less effort.

Close to 2 million people have lost their lives as a result of these fools. I’d argue the point about their being asleep on the job, however. They thought we were omnipotent and ignored it. That’s worse.

You’d have trouble convincing me that those zombies ever slept.

My older brother tortured me once. He had an A. C. Gilbert Erector Set and made a cranked device that produced a considerable shock. He made me say “Uncle”.
That’s all you ever get from torture. Say what we want, then we will stop.

Torture is still illegal, still a war crime and a war of (naked) aggression is still the number one crime against humanity.

I look for cheney, complete coward that he is, to pull a ken lay with a heart attack, cremate next day then off to a fine retirement in Dubai.

If tried and convicted he would do the suicide route rather face the treasonous torture he had no problem dispatching others with.

Arrest this son of a bitch now, Eric !

Off the wall comment.

We, the members of Homo sapiens, are granted a short existence in order to do what we can to improve the direction of creation, and thereby grant ourselves a small share of immortality.

It would appear that quite a few have bungled their assignment.

The only people Holder’s DOJ is gonna arrest are poor and brown.

Cheney in the end will probably do the Nuremberg defense. ” Ve ver only following orders!” In his case his own!

Really, and in as large as numbers as possible, especially since privatizing so many of the prisons.

Hillsborough County in FL charges more juveniles as adults than any other county in the country. The vast majority of those juveniles are African Americans and Latinos.

Deposing the Taliban and reopening the poppy fields in Afghanistan certainly helps the bottom line of Prison Inc.

I think heroin use in the US is down. Cocaine and marijuana users/dealers are the targets of choice.

I don’t see any Nuremberg defense for Cheney, nor a Ken Lay-style exit. I see him ordering his private army (Xe) staging another false-flag op, making Waco, the towers, and Oklahoma City look like child’s play.

Mark my words.

Let us all hope that a Judge in Spain indites these WAR CRIMINALS SO THEY CAN NEVER LEAVE THE COUNTRY.

It’s also a shame that Obama doesn’t have the balls to try them here what a wimp he turned out to be. And it now appears that DOJ is aiding and abetting them in their war crimes.

BT thanks for the post.

I happened to read the Poland piece in the Guardian right when it was posted and asked yesterday, “Where’s Cheney now?”

I was not surprised by the report of “chest pains.”

Perhaps heroin use is down in the US, but it is still a plague elsewhere.

Off to swim in the great capitalist cesspool.

US KIA Irak: 4,378

US KIA Afghanistan: 1,000

Iraki and Afghan casualties: estimates vary to over 1.5M

US MBS 2010: 6,572 and counting. Obama’s so-called health care proposal won’t change these numbers. Just another Grand Symbolic Gesture to cover for an increased distribution of wealth to the elites.

Be good to yourselves, and all other living things.

Namaste

One reason Obama can’t try Bush and Cheney for torturing captured terrorists is because his preferred method of avoiding Gitmo detainees is to blow them and their families up in their homes using Predator Drones.

Torture vs. Murder, the sequel to Monsters vs. Aliens

I believe we were talking about the prison population of the US.

Will his eventual demise be the impetus for all the potential Bush-era whistleblowers to step forward?

You got me, but these threads to have a nasty habit of taking meandering twists. Occasionally, nuggets of truth are discovered in least expected places.

For some reason I’ve gotten out of the habit of adding a “+” to the KIA figures. We don’t know how many have died after being wounded in Irak or Afghanistan and transferred out. There are those who die in military or VA medical centers here and in Europe that are not counted as having been killed in either Irak or Afghanistan because they didn’t die there. A big distinction to the families, I’ll bet.

Didn’t you know? Obama asked Spain to “back off” their investigations.
Maybe someday, someone will do it, but not the bipartisan crooks we’ve got up there now.
THIS is what that womon in Texas should have been asking for her “Country back” over.(“I want my country back”)

My hope is that the Democrats, not the Republicans will split into tow parties. I think we may have a chance if that happens.

New post up top…

“I formally ask that they be declassified now.”

I don’t think it’s formal unless it’s notarized.

The judge that would be most likely to charge U.S. war criminals is apparently being investigated in Spain. He was beginning to investigate the “missing” during Franco’s fascist regime and there are those that do not want to reopen old wounds. They want to look forward. Sound familiar?

On a brighter note, the drumbeat about Republican stim-pocrisy is echoing and turning up even on the editorial page of the staunchly Republican newspaper here in Fargo. As the editorial, not an op-ed.

[yeah, I know this is epu-ed, but mods, enjoy!]

Hey, I enjoyed it. *g*

I usually check back to see what the trolls have tacked on to the thread but it’s nice to see some useful info pop up once in a while. Better than a giggle at inanity.

Thanks for noting this, BT. And for more evidence of jacking electorates with the power of myths, don’t miss these two segments:

Rachel Maddow: Republicans abandon principles to pander right

Rep. Barney Frank sums it up: the “dominant” Republicans want Obama, and governance of civil society by civil society, to fail. They have a policy, they have principles: do as god would do and make life hell for the enemies of the Biggest Man Upstairs, for whom we are landlords here on earth. Their religion is their politics. Strangely, a lot of so-called Democrats share this mythos of full-spectrum dominance as our uniquely American manifest destiny.

It wouldn’t be hard to find, I imagine, examples of Blue Dog Democrats preaching American Exceptionalism (not in the sense of simple self-respect, but as our divinely ordained rightful destiny: to rule the world as god’s own agents here on earth). We can use any level of violence as means to our ends because our motives are sanctified by the Biggest Man Upstairs. Our violence is holy violence, doncha know, same as with Israel’s and the Taliban’s and al Qaeda’s and so on. What a perfect symbiosis!

Rachel Maddow: Christianist ignorance revives discrimination in Virginia

VA State Delegate Bob Marshall is publicly claiming that handicapped children are “nature’s” vengeance for breaking an Old Testament rule for Israelites–and he gets even that wrong, according to Prof. Melissa Harris-Lacewell.

Holy myth-jacking, Batman! Delegate Marshall’s remarks are a perfect example of the power of myth over politics. His beliefs, about how the cosmos is composed, how it functions, and our proper role in it, shape his world prior to his acting in it–as do ours. If we really want to make sense of these mind-boggling acts, we have to know our own myths while also seeing through theirs.

The claim of authority that Yoo uses the Commander and Chief power is Bogus.
As Commander and Chief Bush was as bound by laws about War Crimes just as any solder is. Yoo’s argument is circular and at the same time denies there is a circle.
The Senate signed the international war crime treaty laws the President at the time signed them. The President alone can’t claim he is not bound by those laws.