Alexander Haig was unsuccessful in that moment.
Once the shock of the assassination attempt wore off, and our President recovered and America focused on Reagan’s horrible economy, we needed laughs. Haig’s shaky, sweaty statement became one source of those laughs. He left the State department the following year, believing he’d lost the President’s confidence in a battle with Defense Secretary Caspar Weinberger and a National Security Council that was to become infamous later in Reagan’s presidency.
But it was actually one thing Alexander Haig did more than half a decade before this television moment that shaped our current American political landscape and made our country what it is today. Perhaps more than any other American of the twentieth century who was not President, Alexander Haig forged our political culture and set American history on our current, sorry path.
Hephaestus was the Greek smith-god who forged all the thrones in the Palace of Olympus. Al Haig, American Hephaestus, forged the current view of our American president as invulnerable to accountability for any actions while in office. (Indulge me the alliteration, please; the god is more well-known nowadays as the Roman deity, Vulcan.) Alexander Haig shaped the way we view the Presidency today, and changed the course of history with stern advice he gave a new president just finding his way in the Oval Office after an earlier American tragedy.
How?
In 1973, merely one year after his landslide re-election, Richard Nixon lost his impeachment insurance when Spiro Agnew was forced to resign the Vice Presidency in a plea deal to avoid prison for bribery. Busy covering up Watergate and embroiling America in foreign policy machinations to distract from his and his aides’ malfeasance, Nixon settled on the House Minority Leader to be America’s first appointed Vice President: Michigan’s Gerald Ford.
The process of selecting a Vice President was new; previously, vacancies went unfilled. After John Kennedy’s assassination and LBJ’s ascension, Congress wondered whether it was wise to leave the in-waiting Vice slot unfilled. This problem was especially well illustrated in 1963 by LBJ’s health and that of the 71-year-old Speaker of the House, John McCormack and the 85-year-old president pro tempore of the Senate, Carl Hayden.
So a constitutional solution was proposed and, only seven years after its ratification, America was now using our brand new XXVth Amendment.
During his Congressional confirmation hearings, the first ever for a Vice President, Gerald Ford was asked about pardoning his predecessor, should it come to that. Widely interpreted as a promise not to were these words, “I don’t think the American people would stand for it.”
In retrospect, you can see the wiggle room.
As Bob Woodward reported in “Shadow,” Alexander Haig sought out Vice President Ford in the chaotic first week of August, 1974, and proposed a Nixon pardon, full and complete, for any and all crimes committed. Ford said the deal wasn’t “consummated” then but shocked the nation five weeks later on a lovely fall Sunday by granting the disgraced ex-President just such a pardon. In truth, he had been right almost a year before: America didn’t stand for it, and his trust with the slowly healing American people was irretrievably broken.
Jerry Ford, an otherwise decent man who had already told America that “our long national nightmare is over” when he assumed the Presidency, undertook his Nixon pardon path aided by Alexander Haig, who thus forged modern American political culture.
America was denied a healing process begun when Ford became President. We will never likely know the extent of Nixon’s involvement in Watergate and ‘other high crimes’ because the pardon ended his accountability. Thus began the corruption of America as a nation that can withstand great harm and still survive: we are instead a vulnerable people to be protected from the spectacle of accountability for our leaders’ wrongs. It’s a twisted notion of American exceptionalism: the Executive Exemption from Accountability. It saved Ronald Reagan and GHWBush from impeachment and prosecution for their Iran/Contra high crimes and saved GWBush and Dick Cheney from impeachment and prosecution for their 9/11 negligence and subsequently lying America into war.
America never trusted Jerry Ford again. He flailed about on economic matters, wrestling alternately with inflation and recession. A gifted athlete, his public stumbles boosted the successful career of comedian Chevy Chase and embarrassed us. A plain mid-Western speaker, Ford’s sometimes garbled syntax opened him up to gaffes that made it appear he didn’t understand foreign policy. All this, but first of all his unexpected, sudden reversal on a Nixon pardon (and lack of press preparation and Congressional consultation) made possible the unlikely presidential candidacy of a Georgian peanut farmer who carried his own suitcase. Jimmy Carter engaged the nation with the simple promise that he would always tell America the truth.
Carter might not have been elected had Ford not broken trust with the American people so early in his presidency, at Haig’s urging.
Follow me a few more steps into this political fantasy of Jerry Ford elected to his own presidential term in 1976: recall that he had barely vanquished Ronald Reagan that summer for the GOP nomination, leaving the defeated Reagan a strong candidate for the subsequent 1980 nomination. Elected to his own term, though, a full Ford presidency probably would have resulted in a Democratic win in 1980. Twelve years of the Presidency in one party’s hands usually results in a turnover to the other party, in this case the Democrats.
Would America have seen President Edward Kennedy take the oath in January 1981? Possibly; but regardless of either nominee we certainly would have been spared a President Ronald Reagan. The outgoing President Ford likely could have controlled the levers of his own party to prevent the 1980 Reagan nomination from ever happening.
And an America without a Reagan Presidency would be a vastly different America today, wouldn’t it? I submit: a much better one.
No Reagan Presidency means no Bush Vice Presidency, which means no GHWB Presidency. Which means no Fortunate Son, beholden to and manipulated by Nixon leftovers Dick Cheney and Don Rumsfeld.
So raise a glass to the shade of Al Haig, wherever he resides: forger of America’s destiny with one swift strike of his smith’s hammer against the iron will of Jerry Ford’s promise to his country, on the anvil of executive integrity. For better or for worse, no one not elected President did more with a single act to create the circumstances we find ourselves mired in today.
The legacy of America’s Hephaestus, Alexander Haig: an unaccountable Executive; Ronald Reagan’s presidency; and the disastrous reach into the twenty-first century of Dick Cheney and Don Rumsfeld, returned from the never-extinguished wreckage of the Nixon years to shape America’s destiny as their own.
Thanks, Al.



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teddy!
Interesting. I was expecting the story of how Haig became America’s Primal Cuckold.
Teddy!
I so remember that “Al Haig – Nervous Nelly In Chief” moment.
How easy it is at night.
LOL !!!
Teddy !
Sorry to go O/T so soon but I’ve been waiting to ask if the Prop8 trial resumes this week ?
Good evening Suzanne.
I can still see him,
“I’m in control here.”
Folks, I’m sorry, but dammit ya gotta admit that was funny. Damned funny.
THANKS EvilDrPuma, brought at least one very hearty laugh out loud.
Damn, still laughing……
Teddy! I always knew Haig was a vile, evil man, but had not realized the full extent of his perfidy. I trust he is enjoying his fireside seat now.
so formal tonight theodore
So many Vulcan stories, so little time.
But Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton both managed to say very nice things about America’s ‘warrior-diplomat’ so I decided a little fact-checking was in order, while still minding grandma’s admonition about not saying anything if nothing nice could be said.
…. carefull….
It was terrifying, and hard now to explain why. Americans who’ve become conditioned to fear men in caves attacking assymetrically don’t really understand, unless they remember like you and I do, what it was like to have an entire evil empire’s nuclear weaponry trained on America.
But Al Haig’s performance that day was correctly viewed as both inaccurate and lacking in the reassuring quality he sought to convey. Like, a lot.
Okay.
Or, what? I take my lumps.
I haven’t heard anything about the trial resuming but you’re sure to know as soon as I do. I don’t expect we’ll get much notice; Vaughn Walker has lots to read, though, as well as a feather boa to choose for closing arguments now.
Hey Suzanne!!! or Suz!! or just babe with best links EVAR!!!!
(Oh and I forgot to mention SEXY babe with best links EVAR!!!!
hey lady!
starting off with the fact that HE wasn’t the Vice President.
*heh* My alma mater is the Vulcans…! ;-)
LOL! Good to see that you have not totally lost your sense of humor in these dark and trying times.
Plus I distinctly remember that time. Nightline was on broadcast news, and cable was gaining, but nowhere near as prevalent as today.
So that very night, Ted Koppel went to fucking TOWN on Haig’s ass.
LOL is certainly permitted during Late Night!
And, as with any story about the ancient pantheon, to be expected from mere mortals.
I thought we were to expect a decision in March. Heels or boas not withstanding.
ROFL !!! I’ll check in through the week, for more of your excellent reporting.
G’nite all !
I was in the middle of Kenya so missed his great performance.
Great take. Hindsight’s a funny thing…
On the other hand, America howled over that pardon for a reason!
Aloha, Petro…!
Apparently, the assistant Press Secretary (Larry Speakes, iirc?) had said something about communication with Bush’s plane being difficult. This is what set Haig off charging upstairs from the SitRoom.
Speakes, of course, was substituting for his badly injured boss, James Brady, for whom the WH briefing room is, I believe, still named.
lol, just wanted to remind you those six words could be taken to mean SO MANY things, just wanted you to be careful/aware of that….
or not.
Night, Petro!
No promises from the judge on timing. There’s lots of amicus briefs being filed, which he said he’d read thoroughly even though he expects the “very competent” lawyering to be enough upon which to render a decision. The amicus brief deadline was 30 days, so they still may be trickling in.
…careful….
nighty night
America was healing. The pardon stopped the healing, despite the revisionists’ take during Ford Memorial Week that it was part of the healing process. We still haven’t healed, and we still allow executives to skate.
It’s wrong. America deserves better.
hahahaha
Please – not in front OF THE COOKIES!
Btw, got any spares? I have the munchies. *g*
Could take a while, don’t know why I thought I had remembered March. But, thanks. Still waiting while I’m watching other issues unfolding.
It’s a good thing I’ve learned to be patient. Sometimes.
What are you two playing at? Do we need to book you a room?
touche.
Wasn’t a fan of Clinton’s pardon of Marc Rich.
Off the top of my head, the only good thing that Bush Jr did was to not pardon all the crooks in his administration.
I’ve got a lot more than cookies, cookie.
Prolly not. I’ve got a hot bath running. For one. :)
Touche encore!
lucky you.
tell us more.
I think given his associations, that Haig belongs to a darker pantheon than the classical Greeks. Perhaps something from the Cthulhu Mythos.
heh, shades of Cheney OK’ing the shootdown of flight 93 -if need be.
By which I mean, of course: ;)
Hugs to all. It’s been a long day and I’ve run out of fuel.
I can’t believe that I used to be able to stay up late late late with everyone. I must have been younger and not so engaged during the daytime.
Really. Sweet dreams.
add in Iran Contra…
That’s probably because he knew Obama wouldn’t prosecute them. You know, need to look forward, not backward.
(Wonder if alleged criminals during trial ever suggested that to the jugdge or jury….???? LOOK FORWARD, not backward, skip over that bad shit I did back awhile ago….)
Bush the Younger didn’t need to pardon his wrecking crew; as we learned from the OPR report Friday, he and Cheney had captive lawyers doing their bidding, making all their war crimes ‘legal.’
If you’ve called every one of your war crimes ‘legal’ you don’t need to pardon anyone going out the door.
Of course, Scooter Libby got a W commutation, which kept him quiet and out of prison at the same time.
Night, demi!
Sounds to me like real life is interfering with your blog life. Better see a counselor for that before real life takes over entirely.
Alexander Haig was a Bilderberger attendee.
Along with:
David Rockefeller, Henry Kissinger, Lloyd Bentsen, Katharine Graham, Alice Rivlin, Gerald Ford, Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Dan Quayle, Donald Rumsfeld, Colin L. Powell, John Edwards, Bill Bradley, Bill Richardson, Christopher Dodd, Dianne Feinstein, Kathleen Sebelius, Ralph E. Reed, George Stephanopoulos, Bill Kristol, William J McDonough & Timothy F. Geithner (Presidents, Federal Reserve Bank of New York), George Soros, Paul Volcker & Alan Greenspan (former Chairman of the Federal Reserve), H. J. Heinz II (CEO of H. J. Heinz Company), Peter A. Thiel (Co-Founder, PayPal), Eric E. Schmidt (Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Google), Lloyd Blankfein (CEO of Goldman Sachs), Rupert Murdoch, Donald E. Graham (Chairman of the Board of The Washington Post Company), George Will, Lesley Stahl and many others. The list includes prominent persons in politics, the military, financial institutions, major corporations, academia, and the media.
These people aid and abet the rich and powerful in their quest to sustain the staus quo. They are a vital force behind both American economic and foreign policy.
They are part of the shadow government. The shot callers. The only real democracy we have.
Would an America without Reagan be a different place today? Sure. But vastly different? No way. The above analysis basically plays into the mainstream media myth that everything comes down to whether the Democrats or the Republicans are in power. Yes, with respect to very important social issues, this is true. But with respect to crony capitalism, Wall Street and the military industrial complex Reagan is as interchangable with Clinton as Obama is with Bush. The differences between Democrats and Repoublicans here are tactical, not strategic.
sweet dreams
g’nite demi
Well, that would explain why he sounded a little shaky during the announcement…
“. . . what it was like to have an entire evil empire’s nuclear weaponry trained on America.”
A fear that’s as ginned up as anything our own Goebbels tossed at us in them daze.
I didn’t but it then, I don’t buy it now, I deplore that you of all people would sell that shit to us now.
It’s all been bullshit. I can’t believe you’d choose to believe it, and sell it, duck and cover and all of that.
Sorry Teddy, I disagree with yer premise of the nuke cold fuck.
Yeah, right. No need whatsoever for citizens to exert themselves in the face of such massive monstrous evil. You do realize your argument calls for either serfdom or complete revolution, right?
LLOOLL
Dammit and har har. It really got tough when I was trying to following your prop 8 live blogging. There is life after blogging, after all. Whew!
Thanks again for all that hard work. Are your little finnies all feeling better? Hope so. It ain’t over.
And, nitey nite to dick, suzanne, ted, kell and all.
Well, duck and cover was scary. I don’t say I buy it all today, but it was sold to us sweetly and smoothly and scarily at the time. Did you know anyone who disbelieved it at the time?
I didn’t — and a member of my family was in a position to know at the time.
I was a Peace Corps Volunteer doing agricultural work in a settlement area of the western highlands. Was there from 1979 to 1981.
And, sweet Ellie. And, thanks, again.
Why would they need a shadow government? The rich have largely dominated the regular government throughout US history. If nothing else, they decide who we get to chose between.
Ia Shub N’Iggurath! Aiiee! (Hey There Cthulu…)
Yep. Everybody believed it. I remember duck and cover drills in school and the very real fear in the country during the Cuban missile crisis.
Yep, but we all know this.
Got anyting new to add?
AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
Citizen Teddy Partridge and the Firepup freedom Fighters:
Very interesting angle on an otherwise very UNinterestin’ man. I wonder, however, just how important to forging our political culture and the invulnerable President, Haig actually was. In my mind Haig leaked out of the mold of a lotta bureaucratic military, the most recent who comes to mind is the ultimate sycophant and insider bagman, Colin Powell. It is hard to speculate about just how much we would have learned from a Nixon prosecution and for my money, after living through the Warren Commission whitewash, I wonder if there would have been ANY further investigation of the Nixon administration or its pathetic leader regardless of the pardon. No dear, Haig was a third rate military bagman whose only impact on history was on the space he occupied while alive.
History is what it is and Ford paid the price not only for his pardon of Nixon but for his general bumbling incompetence and his associaltion with anything Republican with the stench of Nixon still in the air.
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION, HISTORY LIKE KARMA HAS A WAY OF REMINDING US OF OUR IGNORANCE!!
excuse me?
Thanks to the Cold War I have a bomb shelter in my house. 12″ cement walls with a 14″ cement ceiling reinforced with railroad rails.
Hopefully the war won’t result in a loss of electricity. I’ll be standing in water up to my knees if the sump pump quits working.
Gave me a chance to look for gum under my desk.
It was VERY hot in ’82 for instance. Falkland Wars was really destabilizing, and there was still East Germany.
I was studying in Europe then and EVERYBODY was sure there was nukes aimed everywhere; and I think they were at that time.
I couldn’t cross to East Germany. Couldn’t cross to Czechoslovakia. It was a bit crunchy in Vienna. The Brits were FUMING at France since Argentina had used Exocet missiles.
It was unstable at that time, and there is no way nukes weren’t actually trained on targets IMO.
Knew there was a reason that y parents did not have one of those (though a neighbor did. Of course it might also have had something to do with the fact that the bedrock started about a foot below the surface under our house (no basement either).
I was growing up overseas, as my pops was in service to the Dept Of State in USAID/USOM.
We heard NOTHING about the Russian menace, growing up as kids.
We DID know about Lao, Vietnamese, Cambodian and Thai languages, cultures, foods.
Coming home, in ’62, as I grew from a child to a teen, I learnt from my pops about the transgressions of life, country, government and more.
I never bought into the Cold War. I was never SOLD into it.
I was taught to question everything, including the fears our govt. instilled into it’s citizens.
That’s how I was raised, that’s what I believed, and I’m stickin to it.
*G*
It was pure bullshit . . . ;-)
Uh, sorry, but I responded, and I don’t think any of what was said is new to me . . .
If I was out of line, lemme know . . .
Can’t say that I was very concerned about nuclear war by the 1980s. I think I had come to the conclusion that the Russians really weren’t stupid or crazy enough to initiate Armageddon.
We were kept home from school during the Cuban missile crisis. There were other, less public times, when I know my mom was very worried and my dad was ‘away.’ He wasn’t all that big a cog in the machine, but he kept the rudimentary networks he’d built for them operational during tough times.
i didn’t realize you were the sole arbitrator of what is and is not an appropriate comment around here
I too do not subscribe to the ‘great man’ theory of history, but pondering Haig’s passing last evening it occurred to me that 1. we wouldn’t hear much about this particular aspect from TradMed and 2. it was a tale worth refreshing acquaintance with.
The fantasy speculation is entirely my own and hardly worth any hassle over. It is what it is; purely my own political what-if? tale. And any story that has a President Teddy Kennedy in it is worth sharing with my buddies.
I think most people, both inside the government and outside did buy into it. There were a few, like your father, who became disillusioned and questioned it, but I do think those beliefs actually drove much of our policies.
Said the sole arbitrator of what is and is not an appropriate comment around here.
Oh noes!!!!
Sweet Suz isn’t also a mod???????
I wasn’t worried about the Russians. I was worried about REAGAN! He kept upping the ante.
I’ll tell a story on myself.
You know how we have the emergency broadcasting system? And wherever you live, there are air raid type sirens, for tornadoes or whatever, and municipalities have a regular test day for them.
In Phoenix in ’83, and still to this day, it’s the first Saturday of the month at Noon.
So I get home from Europe, and it’s fall. Tuesday afternoon, mid month, those damn sirens went off. I was a wee bit stoned but cam to INSTANT attention! I turned to the Emergency channel back then, and it was SNOW! (My rabbit ear antenna was bullshit!)
I was ZOMG, IT’S HAPPENING! Those sirens went on and on, and I hit my Hawaiian stash HARD!
Fifteen minutes later, the sirens went off, I was stoned out of my ever living mind and out of Hawaiian primo.
The next day in the paper was an article about the siren malfunction.
Just saying, some people, at least me, were not sure nukes were OUT of the picture.
Citizen Suzanne:
Take a breath, Sister Suzanne, I think you’re respondin’ more to tone of voice than the comments themselves…we needja ta stay in the game here Citizen Suzanne, yer my rock of rationality don’t lose it on a bit of meaningless babble.
Those beliefs drove policies — and profits. But just because they might have also driven profits, and that was recognized by some at the time, doesn’t mean the general public wasn’t skilfully sold the story.
At that time, unlike this one, the government really needed a certain level of buy-in from the governed in order to promote an issue. Not so much today, otherwise there would be lots of financiers unemployed, in prison, or worse off.
My parents were adding an addition to the house around that time anyway. I think maybe they had intended to include a basement and took out a slightly larger loan to build it extra strong. It served as a rec room when I was growing up, with a pool table and ping-pong table, etc..
We have those sirens every Tuesday, still, at noon, and they just installed a new one at Market and 16th in the Castro. Earthquake country, stimulus money. Thanks, Mr Vice President! Can I call ya Joe?
Suz, that was not my point, nor intent.
George @55 posted something, that I thought was common knowledge amongst people knowledgable with history, Haig, and the times George posted about.
My comment was to ask what did he profess, or posit, beyond that common knowledge?
What was the point of his comment, beyond the history that’s common to any interested in that time, clime, and Haig?
Sorry if you thought it was confrontational, I meant it as ‘show me’ . . . and I’m waiting for the reply.
If I was out of line, and offended him or you . . . sorry.
But I don’t know how I did that . . . I ask questions, I question. Others do the same, in here.
I don’t think I was out of line to do so, nor in the manner I did so??
Citizen Teddy Partridge:
Actually, Citizen, you managed to make old Alexander Haig out to be a bit more interestin’ if only for a moment than he actually was…but that ain’t a bad thing if it gets folks to take another look at one of the moments that makes our current history.
I remember lots of people didn’t want their neighbors to know they had bomb shelters, since they only had rations and supplies for their own family, and you didn’t want the nuclearly sick knocking on, or knocking down, the shlter door after The Big One.
I am not sure whether they might have done it under other conditions, but since the house sat on top of a fossil coral reef, massive amounts of dynamite would have been required for even a basement.
thank you for clarifying — i read it as confrontational and dismissive of his comment
*taking chill pill*
I am pretty sure that they still use them back in Oklahoma, as well. they did when I left 20+ years ago. All about the tornadoes there.
‘I submit: a much better one.’
I agree wholeheartedly.
As for nuclear annihilation – ladies and gentlemen, I give you Stanislav Petrov.
;>)
Ok, as I said, I was out of country as a kid then, and raised a bit liberally/progressively.
Perhaps, I’ve missed that present progressives THEN, were not as progressive as I was, as a kid.
Or now?
Thanks Doc . . . ‘preciate your temper on my confusion . . .
i’m *the* mod aka the former bitch with a badge policing the lake and sister blogs
i’m the only ‘out’ mod — all others are stealth
Thanks, Norske, exactly my point. There’s entirely too much hagiography of GOP elders when they pass; it’s important we have a complete picture. This is far from a full portrait of old Al, but I thought it was a sliver worth discussing.
He did, after all, seek the Presidency in 1988, against the GHWBush juggernaut, whose ‘turn’ it was.
Some people built them above ground. With the price of cement today it would not be feasible even if people considered it advisable.
When by sister moved to Norman, OK in the ’90s she paid a couple thousand to have a storm shelter installed in her back yard. Surprisingly, not many people in the area have them.
A worrisome day for my pops, I can assure you.
Haig was an old time hardliner a la Goldwater with a “bomb them back to the stone age” mentality. Sort of like our modern Neocons.
*The* Mod.
(initial caps)
congrats on snagging the 100 ratty
True. Hadn’t thought about that and in Norman it was feasible (about 50-100 feet of dirt before you hit rock).
*laughing* shudda done that when i went in and edited and added more
Time for me to toddle off. The corrupting continues in the morning. Take care all.
Thank ya! I got the one at SD’s Caturday post too. Coincidentally I feel about 100 today. Sensing a theme of sorts…
g’nite
hope yer kitty doesn’t commence to racing around the house TOO early
g’nite dr *pause* dick
I got in trouble with a Brownie leader when we toured a bomb shelter, and I said something like “I’d rather die above ground than die down here.”
She shook me and told me never to say that.
She is on her “good” behavior today. Last night was a bit of a one off, thank god.
OK, obviously I’m still learning. Jeez, still BIG TIME learning. I don’t get a whole lot of the stuff here. Oh well, it is entertaining, even when I’m confused but learning something.
Still reading……….
Teddy, it yer saying we were all fooled, lied to, and flamboozled like Goebells Minions, I’m SO totally with that.
The 50′s and 60′s were a time of pure propoganda, upon the part of the MSM other than the rapidly expanding NON trad media and voices and opinions that emerged from the hippie left and WELL educated college kids of the 50′s and 60′s.
N that’s when the most recent revolution started . . . and that’s when the lies of the cold war and such began to be debunked, told, and shared.
I believe we are in agreement, in full . . . I’m sorry if I challenged your or anyone else’s reality who LIVED with the cold war stuff in the USA, as I didn’t . . . and for me, the difference ain’t nuttin, we both ended up knowing we were lied to, and bullshitted.
I sure hope you, me and any others can agree, we were lied to, and bullshitted.
Suz, if I railed yer beliefs, I’m sorry . . . that would NEVER be my intention.
I never thought that what I said up above would rail you . . . and I NEVER meant it as you questioned it.
If I owe you an apology, please accept this as one . . . . I’d NEVER try to rail you in any way.
Me question others? Yep. But I try to do it with respect and more.
You taught me that.
we be cool dood
Just glad she’s feeling frisky, when they have that much energy you know they must be healthy.
Sigh, I add more comments to you before I read this . .
And so I still apologize for offending in any manner . .
You are one of my hero’s in this place . . .
Always. Still.
My bad . . . .
I believe Dr. Spock’s book had a chapter on the importance of shaking to proper child development…
Think I will call it a night, pleasant dreams to all.
modding is a lot like herding cats
I still remember the old days, when 100 comments on a thread was really something to celebrate! The comments are more plentiful now, and the commenters now are as worthy as those then, but there sure were fewer then, right Suz?
Night Doc
g’nite ratty
Also, a former member of a bizarre personality cult with arcane beliefs and practices, too.
;>)
Nite nite! I’ll ask Max to update his blog – there’s new pieces evidently.
Ciao sweety!
oh lardy i recall the first time trex starting hitting 200 on late night, which created the need for the late late nite thread — our servers back then were not as turbocharged and page reloads would take for-evah!
Nite RF. Sure hope all is well.
may of 09 i became an official d and gave up the r dood — catch up with the times darkblack (laughing)
HAHAHAHA…. Yeah, I couldn’t envision her as a “gasp” Republican “gasp” either……
Evening, firegods
Hey, I said former, not relapsed. But never say never – the Dark Side might tempt you back if the baked goods improve.
;>)
*blessingsnthanks*
Thanks . . . again . . . yer the last person I wanna annoy . . .
Me meow???? ;-)
Oh HEYsoos marimbas I can’t believe you played that card, DB . . .
Wow . . . ;-) Ballsy you are . . . ;-)
Suzanne was our mole until she couldn’t stand it anymore.
oh snap
That was something! I loved that time with him. Hey Suzanne, I have to admit that “Persuasion” took all my interest tonight.
*ahem*
i like to think of it as being undercover dood
*standing quietly in the corner; waits for a clear opportunity to escape*
Well, of course you would….
Speaking of undercover, did you know there are two undercover NYC officers on “Amazing Race” this year? As Patrick said, “Not anymore!”
“It’s not mine, officer!”
Hee!
i am a mod, too. Secretly. on my own. no one knows about it. not even Jane.
‘winking me in my face‘
;>)
Hey!
allie allie oxen all free dood
hahahahahahahahaha i’ve known camera hog cops like that
*stage whisper*
babe — hon — don’t know how to tell ya this darlin but i think you just blew your cover sweetie
ooooops. and after all these years.
You realize this dooms your heretofore promising career in the Senate? Hmm?
I guess I will have to go back to self moderating.
hahahaha
all these years
No! Leave the senator alone……..
crazy
Well, if you can keep it out of the media, I won’t blab.
PBS and MI-5 has been DEEP into moles and such lately.
One of the only things on TV I can watch . . . for Pups, if you’ve not seen this spy series, on Saturday nights (two hours beginning 9pm-11pm Left Coast Time) it’s the best thang that happened since Smiley’s People.
You younger kids, just google it up and catch up . . . ;-)
If you are supposed to be moderating yourself, you can do better….
I’ve heard about those late-night backyard nekkid moon-worship sessions of yours! Hardly moderate (and lotsa fun).
*g*
Oh REALLY, honey? *G*
One of Al’s ventures in the last decade was becoming Chairman of the Board of DOR Biopharma. They were trying to sell a ricin vaccine to the government. If you didn’t know you could get a vaccine for ricin, join the club.
http://www.dorbiopharma.com/about_company.shtml
In 2004, Al decided to cash in, and resigned or retired as Chairman. He picked his replacement, Alexander P. Haig, his son.
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-124485825.html
Uh huh, and why do you think it is I never try n cheese ya off?
*G*
crazy train
Good. Though. ;-)
oh jeebus, me and my big mouth.
I’ve seen worse Senators voted in under worse sitches . . . you got BOTH my votes, still.
And more later, if needed . . . . ;-)
gotta have another late nite backyard nekkid poetry session soon mary — starting to warm up and soon will be warm enough
Reelin!!!
Don’t tell my you’ve abandoned that plank of your platform; I was counting on stealing it from you!
nekkid barbeque.
my platform is free health care and nekkid sex for all!
so much for self moderation. what do you expect from a left handed, southern, scorpio?
It’s a wonderful story, I probably shouldn’t keep telling it on you, but it’s late and there’s hardly anyone here.
It’s part of the magic that is you, Mary.
been a while since we’ve had a saturday nite nekkid blogging — dayam winter
Mind the lighter fluid.
;>)
ha!
aaawww geee. thanks.
lord.
Oh, my, never a dull moment.
Newt wants to be a Rock Star – well gosh, don’t we all?
;>)
Or a f*ck thread… How about both…? ;-)
thers does forking fantastic fuck threads
newt went to my church in New Orleans when he was at Tulane. YUK!
What? You? Constituents? Critters?
My vote withstanding, out, in your field . . .
Will play dobro at inaugeration for food . . .
There’s a cleansing standard for that sort of thing, no?
;>)
Can we get free nekkid healthcare AND sex? In some fashion, with our own bonifides?
Dayam that’s some ugly butt . . . . did ya HAVE ta?
Always wondered what percentage of shelters were secret. Status v fear of marauding neighbors.
ES has LLN on tap…
Great post, Teddy – the battlefield over the Constitution is strewn with Haig and Negroponte and Kissinger landmines.
How else could Cheney and Rumsfeld use their puppet Bush to destroy the free peoples of this country?
The Nazgul have left the Morgul Vale.
O My…which church would that be?
I’ll have you know some are proud of their GOP ass tattoos, Larue.
;>)
hiya CE
Oh my forkin sigh . . . ;-)
Is that shit legal this side of the border??????
Killin me, just killin me, and don’t ever stop, eh . . . . *G*
Sent Above, Thought, Wasted Down Here Below
All here, enjoy . . . *G*
Where’s the Iron Lady with her strap-on?
Thanks, PPDCUS.
The hagiography was really buggin’ me last night, but I didn’t want to say anything that was either untrue or embarrassing to the blog. So I stuck to the facts and a little fantasy of my own, without casting any aspersions.
Ted-dy!!
Ted-dy!!
Ted-dy!!
The pursuit of empire and such can’t be anything other than a big, fat Greek tragedy. But you know what?
“Still I Rise
You may write me down in history
With your bitter, twisted lies,
You may trod me in the very dirt
But still, like dust, I’ll rise.
Does my sassiness upset you?
Why are you beset with gloom?
‘Cause I walk like I’ve got oil wells
Pumping in my living room.
Just like moons and like suns,
With the certainty of tides,
Just like hopes springing high,
Still I’ll rise.
Did you want to see me broken?
Bowed head and lowered eyes?
Shoulders falling down like teardrops.
Weakened by my soulful cries.
Does my haughtiness offend you?
Don’t you take it awful hard
‘Cause I laugh like I’ve got gold mines
Diggin’ in my own back yard.
You may shoot me with your words,
You may cut me with your eyes,
You may kill me with your hatefulness,
But still, like air, I’ll rise.
Does my sexiness upset you?
Does it come as a surprise
That I dance like I’ve got diamonds
At the meeting of my thighs?
Out of the huts of history’s shame
I rise
Up from a past that’s rooted in pain
I rise
I’m a black ocean, leaping and wide,
Welling and swelling I bear in the tide.
Leaving behind nights of terror and fear
I rise
Into a daybreak that’s wondrously clear
I rise
Bringing the gifts that my ancestors gave,
I am the dream and the hope of the slave.
I rise
I rise
I rise.”
Maya Angelou
Drag-on!
Drag-on!
Drag-on!
Thank you, mz, and welcome (if in fact you are new to FDL and not simply new to me).
In either regard, hello and thanks for that.
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No, my point of view calls for progressives to forge alliances with other progressives to organize Main Stream and elect men and women who are not subserviant to Wall Street and the ruling class.
It just has little to do with the usual liberal bullshit about Democrats [mostly good] and Republicans [mostly bad].
Please tell me you are not an idealist!!! ; o )
No Carter; no Church Committee.
A Jerry Ford presidency would have brought a George HW Bush Vice-Presidency earlier. Ronald Reagan would never have run for Vice President. 1988 would not have been a primary battle between GHW Bush and Reagan; Reagan would be showing the symptoms of Alzheimers. We would have had a war with Iran, Vietnam draft dodgers would still be in Canada, the very idea of alternative energy would be stillborn, the US would never have been publicly committed to human rights (and thus not subject to the world’s scorn for violating them), and Paul Volcker would not have stopped inflation.
There are a lot of possible threads had Jerry Ford gotten his own term as president. Jimmy Carter has become too convenient a whipping boy for progressives.
Great post!
(although you did leave out a couple of other attributes of Hephaestus)
Like all in the pantheon, Hephaestus has too many attributes from which to choose when making any analogy. I gave some thought to teasing out others, but decided to stick with his smith-iness. So many thrones today are filled with those who think themselves gods, because of Haig’s action.
And thanks!
You’ll find no greater admirer of Jimmy Carter than I am. Anywhere.
And I speak of his post-presidency as well as his presidency.
But we’re not really discussing the relative merits of my political fantasy and yours, are we? I hope not. It is what it is; yours has equal validity except it’s not, you know, mine. *g*