Good morning DeVeria. It’s been years since I’ve been in S.F., so I’ll let others give you the tips. But have a great time. Vacation, or some other reason for your trip?

How long should it take for the drive from Richmond? Next time, take an audio book.

Good Morning DeVeria
What’s bringing you out to SF?

Tiger Woods = This week’s “Shiny Object! Shiny Object!”

Maybe so, but he’s looking a little tarnished to me.

G’morning. I am going to SF to work, but I seriously need a break. 2010 has come in swinging. My trip to Richmond should have taken no more than an hour an half. I definitely needed an audio book.

G’morning demi. Work, work and more work…you know thats what I do; but I’m trying to have some fun too.

OMG, flipping channels, there’s an old rerun of L&O with Julia Roberts.

Good morning, Deveria and the Saturday morning crew. My sister lives in Castro Valley (East Bay) and I go out for a week every year in the fall when the weather in SF is TEH BESTEST. It has been awhile since we’ve done any of the touristy things, but if this is your first visit, try to do some of it — Fisherman’s Wharf, Lombard Street, Chinatown,etc. And eat, eat, eat that sourdough bread, and bring some back with you. Must be the air, as the experts say, but no sourdough anywhere else tastes as good.

I just really don’t care that much…but evidently I’m in the minority.

wow

I thought you were Jane’s accountant, no? Why did I think that.

I’ll check it out…I’ll be downtown and not sure how big the city is, but I want to explore.

“Did nothing else happen in the world yesterday worthy of the media’s attention? ”

Deveria, if you hadn’t told me it was worthy, I would have missed it. The CPAC seemed enthralled anyway.

SF has a wonderful Japanese teagarden.
http://maps.google.com/maps/place?oe=utf-8&rls=com.yahoo:en-US:official&client=firefox&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=san+francisco+japanese+tea+garden&fb=1&gl=us&hq=Japanese+Tea+Garden&hnear=Japanese+Tea+Garden&cid=14401451717155707849

Did you like the ones with Lis something as Sam’s assistant?

Well, I am…but, I also have a business with a few other clients.

Didn’t notice the video the first time, but that looks to be Lombard Street. Where are you going to be? There is a lot you can walk to in the downtown area. And there is a wonderful public transit system.

On edit: I forgot about the cable cars. Ride a cable car. Go over the Golden Gate bridge. And take a jacket, because SanFran is downright chilly most of the time, and the fog rolls in on “little cat feet” in mid-afternoon.

Looks nice and peaceful…just what I need.

I don’t think you’re so much of a minority on this.

But it allows all the editors to go “harrumph harrumph” and be the morals arbiters they all seem to deem themselves.

(IOW, they seemingly all aspire to be Sally Quinn or David Broder judging the Clintons)

What else happened last week? Some idiot frat boys held a Compton Cook Out on Monday, supposedly some weird protest of Black History Month. Deeeescusting. I’m working on that for my Food Sunday diary. Racism, hate speech and lots of questions about how we have clearly failed the younger generation.

Not sure which era you’re talking about, but in general L&O & its knock offs are my guilty pleasure.

….do you know what I had to hear about the entire time on the radio…Tiger Woods. Is it just me or is it really that serious? Did nothing else happen in the world yesterday worthy of the media’s attention?

Well, according to the folks at WHO, approximately 20,000 children aged 5 years and younger died from starvation around the world yesterday.

But then that many kids die every day in one or another third world hellhole; so I guess the media figured it’s really no big deal anymore.

Sigh…

After nearly 40 years of grappling with this [40 years in which 292,000,000 kids died] I still can’t come to grips with the rage that wells up inside me at a world that not only tolerates this but, in many sickening ways, precipitates the political and economic conditions that facilitate and sustain it.

Especially the Christian folks in the civilized parts.

All I can hope for now is that on Judgment Day I’ll get the chance to ask God why He did nothing to stop it.

I wonder what He’ll say?

Assuming of course He exists at all.

I kinda doubt it in all honestly.

Well I get off at Montgomery street station…hotel is near there.

What else happened last week?

Joe Stack flew a plane into the IRS building.

are you serious? i totally missed that.

Let’s see now. I’m thinking maybe late 90′s. Anyway, she was attached to the screenplay I was working on with my then writing partner. She was a real nice gal and we were at her going away party when she moved to NY to do L&O. That was a pretty cool party, up in one of the canyons here.

She does, and you’re in Big Trouble.

Wow…kind of sobering…20,000? Not a word about that…

Happened in San Diego. I haven’t seen any national coverage. I’ve got a lot of research to do today for the piece. But, if you get a chance, check out tomorrow’s diaries to get the skinny.

There are lots of excellent places to eat in the Financial District. I couldn’t name any, but in addition to my sister, I have a friend who lives in the city, whom I see on every visit, and we’ve gone to several good restaurants in that ares.

Take a virtual tour.

I would imagine that there is no shortage of cool parties in your neck of the woods.

Now that we did hear about. Another sad situation.

Oh, you’re another one who views God that way. I always say, Oh, that God, she’s is a tricky one.

will do…I would like to know more about that. Stuff like that is still happening?

AARRGGHH. It’s snowing! Maybe I should just go back to bed!

That was when I was groovy and worked in “the industry”. Not so much anymore. Boo Hoo.

Good morning DeVeria. If you have 3 or 4 hours of free time, and want something relaxing to do, I’d suggest a visit to Muir Woods National Monument. You can take a short walk or a long walk through the towering redwood tree forest. It’s about 11 miles or so from the north end of Golden Gate Bridge, past Sausalito. Only been there once years ago, but it was really beautiful.

perfect…thx

where?

Guess I’ve been on the net that long, it seems anachronistic to refer to He as if….

That site is right at my frequent path. SoI was quite
glad not to be out. I was home sick…not so much concern
about the danger. But the anxiety, etc plus traffic held up forever.
A very busy area. Glad I was tucked in….

I think I was born an atheist. I haven’t believed in God since I can remember, although I attended the Unitarian Universalist Church for several years (belief in any God, or no God, is perfectly fine with the UUs).

For me personally, belief in God is like belief in the tooth fairy or Santa. No reflection on anyone else who DOES believe in a God.

Unfortunately, yes. I’m wondering what kind of consequences there’ll be. I’m thinking maybe community service in, oh let’s say, Compton. Can you imagine?

I’ll try to check it out. I won’t have a lot of time this trip, but I’ll be going back so I’ll do something each time.

Muir Woods is wonderful, and if I recall correctly, there are tours where you are driven in some sort of Jeep-type vehicle all around, including at least one redwood you can drive THROUGH.

Bring back a redwood burl in your suitcase, put it in a shallow dish of water, and watch it sprout. I’ve never had success keeping them going for too long, but they’re interesting anyway.

nope, but I think that would be great payback

It doesn’t affect me at all when others are atheists or agnostics. Think and let think is a model I aspire to.

How comes that’s in your past? Downsized?

for some reason, I have terrible luck with plants :( I love them, though

Where? South Bend, Indiana. We’ve had a rare two days of sunshine, but now that it’s Saturday, it is snowing again. But I heard birds chirping when I opened the garage door yesterday, so Spring isn’t too far off.

Amazing little loss of life and other casualties given the violence he planned. Glad for that.

Oh yes. Totally downsized. After 911, my then husband left me, I got laid off from Warner Bros, and I thought I was going to die. Wished it, really. Then I sold my house and moved to this sleepy little town, Sylmar where I hid out for a long time. I’m really just getting back to having a somewhat normal life.

NPR doing tribute to Kathryn Grayson…great songs.

I think that is why I was so attracted to the UUs. They are very much a haven for all sorts of beliefs, respect the worth and dignity of every individual, they’re a “creedless” denomination, and very liberal and support all sorts of causes. The congregation I joined was relatively large for UUs, about 650 “pledge units” and had a choir and a lot going on. Here in South Bend the UU church is very small and I couldn’t get interested, unfortunately.

((((demi))))

Your epresence certainly seems resiliant. Hoping for the best for you.

Funny, when i moved to N.TX. rural area, no Quaker meeting, so I really just don’t do organized religion anymore.

Then you actually might be interested in the place I mentioned to you last week, as a retirement haven, very hippy.
http://www.historic-terlingua.com/historic_terlingua_ghostown_001.htm

Thanks, hon. I finally started making some gal pals when I joined the gym. Even had two over to watch the big game. But, I rarely have visitors. Maybe that’s why I enjoy the Lake so much.

I am counting down the days…i really don’t want to see any more snow.

We had a Quaker family in our UU congregation (this was in a Detroit burb) and she told me that other religions, including UU, seemed “noisy” to her. We sing hymns and have a minister who gives sermons, and a choir or other music, and apparently Quaker services are very quiet. I’ve never had an opportunity to attend one.

I have a Sikh colleague who has promised to take me to a service at their “temple” (I think that was his word) sometime.

Coffee’s gone. Nothing I;m interested on book TV, so off to other activities. BBL.

I wouldn’t mind living in a house that looks like that, but, you know, I love my foothills here. And, I think I’d go crazy(er) not being able to drive to the beach once in a while.
But, thanks.

And we love having you here!

Umm….you’re in D.C., correct? You really got hammered this winter. I was there in December (my choir sang at the White House) the Monday after the first big snow, and nothing was moving!! In NW Indiana we are used to it and have the plows and such to deal with it.

Have a good one

Maybe this is sexist, but knowing God’s a She kinda makes all the terrible pain and suffering those kids go through that much more unbearable to endure.

Any guesses on how She’d rationalize this many starving kids day in and day out?

After all, you don’t get much more innocent then children.

And starving is one of the most protracted, painful ways to die.

Oh well, maybe Obama [with the help of Rahm] will figure out a way to push a bill through the Senate making note of this horrific black mark on humanity. And then through reconciliation they can get around the attempt by Republicans to blame it all on the terrorists. And the socialists, of course.

Aw, shucks.

Terlingua is a take off point for rafting on the Rio Grande. But if you never have lived in the hinterlands, it can be difficult.

We are still cleaning up from the last blizzard…I still have to salt the driveway every other day because the melting snow keeps freezing. I can’t wait until the Spring.

This was a bit tongue in cheek, and I can’t see any concept of the traditional sort of gods involved in human affairs, am more inclined to brahmanism, god a part of us not separated off into some omnipotent figure.

The God I believe in is not a manager. God is. People do. I could not believe in a God that allows pain and suffering or causes floods and earthquakes as punishment.

Its better for your lawn and/or plants to put down kitty litter, not the clumping kind. Salt kills things.

I have cat litter on my driveway, but it’s to soak up the oil that drips out of my pos car.

I know. Not a word about this either:

•In the Asian, African and Latin American countries, well over 500 million people are living in what the World Bank has called “absolute poverty”
•Every day, 18 to 20 million children die of hunger
•For the price of one missile, a school full of hungry children could eat lunch every day for 5 years
•Throughout the 1990’s more than 100 million children died from illness and starvation. Those 100 million deaths could [have been] prevented for the price of ten Stealth bombers, or what the world spends on its military in two days
•The World Health Organization estimates that one-third of the world is well-fed, one-third is under-fed one-third is starving- Since you’ve entered this site at least 200 people have died of starvation.
•One in twelve people worldwide is malnourished, including 160 million children under the age of 5.
•Nearly one in four people, 1.3 billion – a majority of humanity – live on less than $1 per day, while the world’s 358 billionaires have assets exceeding the combined annual incomes of countries with 45 percent of the world’s people. UNICEF
•3 billion people in the world today struggle to survive on US$2/day.
•Malnutrition is implicated in more than half of all child deaths worldwide – a proportion unmatched by any infectious disease since the Black Death
•About 183 million children weigh less than they should for their age
•To satisfy the world’s sanitation and food requirements would cost only US$13 billion- what the people of the United States and the European Union spend on perfume each year.
•The assets of the world’s three richest men are more than the combined GNP of all the least developed countries on the planet.
•Every 3.6 seconds someone dies of hunger
•It is estimated that some 800 million people in the world suffer from hunger and malnutrition, about 100 times as many as those who actually die from it each year.

Maybe tomorrow….

Must eat San Francisco Food – Swan Oyster Bar

Tiger WHO?

My, my George. You’re so cheery this morning.

Maybe there’s a He and a She, a tag team of sorts. The He lets all the bad stuff happen, and the She works the miracles and does the compassionate stuff. The She better get on the stick, too many negative things are happening.

Sounds like a good plan.

I love seafood!

I’m reading a book which has a lot of Navajo religion in it. It seems they believe in the dualistic deity, man and woman.

exactly

Cannery Row, then.
http://www.caviews.com/can.htm

Yummers. I just bought three lobster tails (for 5.95 a piece) and put them in the freezer for our next camping trip.

Okay, people do. But why would a loving just and merciful God take it out on babies, infants, toddlers, and all those young kids?

Can you even begin to imagine a rationalization?

And God created Earth. That means God created the tectonic plates that created the earthquake that created all the devastation in Haiti.

What man did was facilitate the slaughter by setting up a global economy in which nations like Haiti are veritably awash in terrible poverty.

Well, not all men, actually. You know the ones I mean. At least I hope you do.

Just kidding. That’s not what I really think. But it’s nice to imagine that if God was to actively participate, it would be more of a “She” personality that was nurturing and compassionate.

Would being “cheery” change things for those kids? I suspect not.

Good Morning everyone,

oh DeVeria, there’s so much to do in SF, you’ll have a wonderful time.
And yes EAT, the sourdough bread is sooo yummy. Wish I had some right now.

Must get some things done but thanks for the good tho’ts and conversation here. Posting at 11 ET, 8 PT on the fraud the RNC commits to raise funds on false pretenses, see you there/then.

Lots of touristy stuff along Fisherman’s Wharf/Pier 39…fun people watching. Excellent chowders at a restaurant at the north end, Blue something I think. Buy a cable car day pass, see the neighborhoods the easier-than-walking-the-hills way. Do walk Chinatown, though. In the North Beach neighborhood, Stinking Rose is a fun restaurant [helps if you love garlic...]. When we were there in December, we bused over to Lands’ End and watched the surf…. Take the ferry to Sausalito for great city panoramas. Oh, and the Alcatraz tour is interesting and eerie.

Probably not, but, traditionally, PUAC has been a respite from the ugly truths that we read about and think about the rest of the time.

Oh, I almost forgot. If you’re going to San Francisco, be sure to wear some flowers in your hair.

LOLOL!

you just cook them over an open fire?

Wow, the tune jumped immediately into my head!! Was that Mamas & Papas?

i’m looking forward to it

The “fish man” at my local farmer’s market said “Never boil lobster tails, broil them or grill them.” My local supermarket has them on special every so often, two little ones for $9.

I have to figure that part out. I’ll do some reading, or maybe I’ll ask folks here when we get close to the date.

Scott McKenzie sang it but John Phillips did write it.

wow…a lot to do! i’m gonna have to spread all that over a few trips…lol

Scott McKenzie. But my friend Eric Doc Hord played guitar with the Mamas and Papa’s and he told me co wrote that song but never got credit.

morning! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBHt8DVu9LY

any special meaning?

I like them…but I’ve never cooked one before.

Thank you. :)

ok…have a good one!

You are right, demi. PUAC is a place to escape the ugliness, if only briefly.

George, to give yourself a respite from all the bad things for a little bit, try imagining a world in which all the nations were led by nurturing, compassionate women. The motherly type, the opposite of the Margaret Thatcher, Madeline Albright type, among others. There would be no war, no greedy pursuit of resources and wealth at the expense of the less powerful, there would truly be compassin towards the less fortunate. This I truly believe. Many native cultures were based on a matriarchal society, many refer to earth as the “mother.” And for good reason. This earth, and this life, would be so much more enriched (not the $ kind) with a more “motherly” approach to all things.

OT have you read Terry Pratchett’s book, “Making Money”? It helps if you’ve followed the series of books, but it does stand alone on the topic. I highly recommend it for insight: money’s value is in the hand that holds it. He also has my kind of humor as well as fastenating character descriptions.
Especially Lord Vetinari’s management style.

karen

Yes but ‘traditionally’ most of us are on a permanent respite from the ugly truths George reminds us of.

I think George is right to stick our noses into our privilege anytime.

Regarding she, he, it, gods; just another way to avoid looking squarely at the world as it exists.

I was boiling them, and I still do if I’m too lazy to fire up the Weber. But I do want to grill them sometime, split open with seasoning and garlic, which is how my Weber cookbook says to grill them. Demi, how do you do them when you’re camping?

This has been fun, friends, but I think my Saturday had better get underway. Shower, laundry, errands, and taxes today, and a volunteer gig at our performing arts center — Santa Fe Ballet.

Have a great day. Be back later!!

nice

busy, busy

my #107 was for DeVeria and eCAHNomics entertanment. Be a good book for your trip.

Have a good one!

Smoke Gets In Your Eyes

Well, I guess I think about them more than most others do “the rest of the time.” Certainly more than God and the Ruling Class, right?

But you’ve earned your respite…so I’ll be gone.

Liberals and progressives are the motherly type you describe but just like domestic violence, the mean bastards fight harder. Look at the violent metaphors the rethugs have adopted of late. It stimulates the randian bastards.

Oh I love Pratchett, thanks for the tip!

Yes, I realize it does seem as if there are more of the mean ‘bastards’ around. Just saying that sometimes it is helpful to visualize (if only in your mind’s eye) what the world could be like. I think there are many who do what they can to work towards such a vision. Individuals can only accomplish little pieces. Collectively, much can be accomplished.

George is right to rail against injustice, hunger and disease. Anger can be a good motivator, but constant anger is not good.

ill check it out…been looking for a good one

Gotta go. Sorry, everyone, for getting on my soapbox. My kids let me know it every once in a while. You guys and gals have a good day. DeVeria, have a safe and enjoyable trip to SF.

and bring your heart back, DeVeria!

Hi Margot

“Going Postal” introduces the main character if you want to read in sequence and the book is equally good. I’ve enjoyed all his books.

i’ll do my best

none necessary…see you next week

San Francisco is a really small city–it is very easy to walk most neighborhoods. Fisherman’s wharf is cheesy, don’t waste your time. Same for Haight-Ashbury. Get out of the business district as fast as your feet can carry you–it’s a cavern blocking out all sun–but do check out the nearby farmers’ market at the Pier.

Muir Woods, absolutely, but if on a weekend go very early or parking gets crazy; try Greens restaurant, a little bit south of the Golden Gate Bridge; check the countercultural newspapers when you get there for advice on the latest and best restaurants. Chinatown is an absolute must, especially if you get off the main streets and check out where the locals go grocery shopping: live frogs, fish, bright orange ducks hanging in windows. The place is real and crowded and exotic smelling and a ton of fun. Right next to Chinatown is the Italian section, North Beach–stop in at City Lights Bookstore, where Kerouac and Ginsberg and Gary Snyder reigned in the late 50′s early 60′s and which still has outstanding collections of cutting edge writing in small magazines, along with room after room of well-chosen books. http://www.citylights.com Go to one of the last two old-fashioned Italian grocery stores in this neighborhood, just a few blocks up the hill from City Lights; you pick out your own bread, get in line, and tell them what kind of incredible cheese, sausage, etc. you want on your sandwich. Take it to a local park just a few blocks further up the street and people watch.

Enjoy. You are going to want to come back.

Douglas

I just saw this, Ellie. I have to…my sweetie’s not going!

oh wow…great…thanks!

oh man, that IS a bummer. San Fransisco IS for lovers :)

Glad someone mentioned City Lights. Stinking Rose is okay but there are a lot of great Italian restaurants in North Beach. Stella’s bakery has great cannolis but I know there is an even better place in the neighborhood. (A friend brought some back to her house and I forgot the name of the place.) You should take BART (Montgomery Station will be close to where you are staying) down to 16th St and head west a block or so to Pancho Villa taqueria for a burrito. There is no burrito like a San Francisco Mission burrito. Just try to do this during the day as the neighborhood can kind of be sketchy at night. If you walk just a bit further you will hit Valencia Street which has an amazing amount of restaurants to choose from. Valencia St. is a block away from Mission St. but tends to be a little safer. The only reason to go to Fisherman’s Wharf is that it is crab festival time! http://visitfishermanswharf.com/events/crabseason.aspx

I second what Douglas says–you will want to come back. I’ve lived here for over 20 years and as much as I think I could move somewhere else I know deep down that may not be true!

There are also museums galore. SF MOMA is a few blocks from Montgomery or Powell BART so you could probably walk there from where you are staying. Enjoy!

What Douglas and Elliott said are right on. My wife and i pick a restaurant by taking turns closing our eyes and following the smell.SF is one of the greatest city’s on the face of the earth in our book. You will love it.

And the Japanese Cultural Center on Geary! One of my favs. Clement street is very interesting and a great neighborhood. The Legion of Honour Museum has a great print dept. and fab paintings.

Oh, {{{{{demi}}}}}, had no idea. Like eCAHN’s word, epresence, yes, yours is certainly strong and individual. Btw, I can identify. Guess my “descent” was less steep – never at such a glamorous peak, but roughly similar events in the last decade or so. The last year I’ve begun to worry about developing hermit tendencies; online the main socializing. (so much cheaper than meeting folks at eateries, too). Emerging recently, myself.

Then again, maybe my hermit tendencies are not well-developed after all – I cannot imagine living so far from, well, everything, as Terlingua, hip community or not. Shudder. Of course, I like cities. Years in the “suburbs” even of San Antonio were among my most miserable (and contributed to my marriage tensions. He liked the location, I abso-frickin-lutely hated it.)

Hey y’all, is this thread still active? I live close by so I know SF kinda sorta well. Not intimately like a native would…

I say Little Joe’s on Broadway has thee best cioppino in the world. Rain or Shine there’s always a line at Little Joe’s. It’s on the still raunchy part of Broadway, so take a burly friend.

If you don’t go to Little Joe’s, do try some cioppino somewhere. It’s my fave dish and I make my own every Christmas eve as a tradition.

Belden Place is walking distance from Montgomery Station. It’s good for tourists, but I know lots of locals like me who love the place.

Hi DeVeria,

I don’t know how long you have in SF, so I don’t know how much to recommend or whether to limit suggestions to things reachable by public transport.

My very favorite thing to do in San Francisco (and I lived in Marin for over 20 years) is watch the sunset from the top of Mt. Tamalpais. If you’re still there on the 28th you’ll get to watch the sun set into the Pacific while the full moon is rising over the shimmering lights of the entire Bay Area. And don’t assume that because it’s foggy down below it’s not nice up at the peak – the summit is usually above the marine layer, so while it can be windy and rainy in SF and Mill Valley it can be beautiful and clear at the top.

If you’re driving over to Mt. Tam then also go to Muir Woods National Monument, which is just at the base of the mountain. It’d be silly to do one and not the other. Actually, a trifecta would be a picnic lunch at Muir Beach, a hike through Muir Woods, then sunset on Mt. Tam. Wonderful memories….

I’d also recommend visiting the new building at the California Academy of Sciences in Golden Gate Park. It’s easy to get to on BART+Muni. And if you have time afterwards you could walk down to Ocean Beach and meet some people at a bonfire. (Just dress for the wind if you’re planning on walking.)

And don’t forget to take a walk through Chinatown. Many of the people there were born right there, but speak no or very little English, only Chinese – it’s like a foreign travel experience within walking distance of your hotel.

Joshua Redman (saxophonist) will be playing at Grace Cathedral on the 26th. And the Cathedral is always a nice place to visit even during the day.

Check Pollstar for all the music that’s going on in the Bay Area while you’re there.

To wind up my recommendations back in Marin, you could take the ferry across the Bay over to Sausalito or Tiburon for lunch and a walk.

I hope you have a great time in SF!

P.S. Since this is a politics site, I’m obliged to suggest the Power Exchange – it’s exactly like what happens on Capitol Hill, but without as much pretense (and better outfits). ;-)

Nostalgic, aging beatnik alert! You’ve gotten some great recommendations. Places that spring to my mind:
1.Vesuvio Cafe – 255 Columbus @ Jack Kerouac Alley
2.Tosca Cafe – 242 Columbus Ave
3.City Lights Bookstore – 261 Columbus Avenue
4.Point Reyes National Seashore – 30 miles north of San Francisco
5.Point Lobos in Carmel is beautiful beyond words. “The greatest meeting of land & water in the world,” says their web site, and that’s a fact! But, it’s 125 miles south of SF. :-(

Valencia Street, the Mission end of 24th Street (tacos at La Gallinita if it’s a weekend; ice cream at Humphrey Slocomb). Walk over Buena Vista hill between the Haight and the Castro. Sutro Baths ruins, Clement Street Asian restaurants (Good Luck Dim Sum especially), walk across the Golden Gate Bridge,

And all the mural alleys! Don’t forget the mural alleys!

_ Heath Ceramics factory outlet in Sausalito
_ Blue Bottle coffee and shopping in Hayes Valley
_ Gialina Pizzaria in Glen Park
_ Humboldt Fog @ Cowgirl Creamery in Fisherman’s Wharf
_ watching the sea lions at the pier
_ wine bars! Most are inexpensive and casual.
_ de Young Museum and that new one across from the de Young